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Shadow Dino
02/22/20 9:16:43 PM
#352:


EMERGENCY GOALIE ALERT IN TORONTO!

Hurricanes forced to use the EBUG!

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linid0t
02/22/20 9:17:24 PM
#353:


Umm

Did Mrazek AND Reimer both just die in the same fucking game ?! Wtf is happening



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TheKnightOfNee
02/22/20 9:31:17 PM
#354:


Toronto is letting in so many goals now. They might actually lose to this zamboni driver goalie.

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Crescent-Moon
02/22/20 9:33:57 PM
#355:


I just looked. The Hurricanes have 48 shots.

Um.. Ok.

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Shadow Dino
02/22/20 9:50:17 PM
#356:


And the Emergency Backup wins!

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Crescent-Moon
02/22/20 10:01:03 PM
#357:


Shadow Dino posted...
And the Emergency Backup wins!
What was his name?

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Shadow Dino
02/22/20 10:08:35 PM
#358:


David Ayres

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linid0t
02/22/20 10:11:38 PM
#359:


Shadow Dino posted...
David Ayres

And he got star of the game

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Strife2
02/22/20 10:18:33 PM
#360:


Koivu told the Wild he'd rather play 3rd-4th line duties rather than waive his no trade clause. Joy...

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Emeraldegg
02/22/20 10:18:40 PM
#361:


Ya go my emergency goalie
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Crescent-Moon
02/22/20 10:22:26 PM
#362:


David Ayres, a name you'll never forget!

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davidponte
02/23/20 6:24:10 AM
#363:


A lot of Leafs fans , my friends included, think that this loss was more embarrassing than some of the game 7's of the last few years (and 2013). I don't think it reaches 2013 levels of "I hate myself", but man is it close.

They should probably be sellers.

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Strife2
02/23/20 8:49:55 AM
#364:


I'm still shocked the Wild aren't shopping Dubnyk. After checking Stalock's stats, he's "not bad" for being so cheap. Aside from goalies who plaed maybe 5-10 games, he's at like 20th or so in save percentage, and that factors in both he and Dubnyk going on those crazy ass losing streaks early and mid season.

Stalock went from something like 3.10 to 2.70, so he is playing "better". Dubnyk is at 3.30 is at $4m price tag, ouch.

Dumba and (especially) Brodin deserve some credit for playing better, but dumping Dubnyk's salary is something the Wild hasn't even hinted at for some reason.

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RPGlord95
02/23/20 8:51:42 AM
#365:


Leafs are done after that. Like I mean forever. Their confidence has to be shot.

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davidponte
02/23/20 8:52:46 AM
#366:


:(

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SmartMuffin
02/23/20 9:25:02 AM
#367:


How much better is the Metro than the Atlantic?

If the Leafs were in the Metro, they'd be in 8th place.

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SmartMuffin
02/23/20 9:28:42 AM
#368:


Strife2 posted...
I'm still shocked the Wild aren't shopping Dubnyk. After checking Stalock's stats, he's "not bad" for being so cheap. Aside from goalies who plaed maybe 5-10 games, he's at like 20th or so in save percentage, and that factors in both he and Dubnyk going on those crazy ass losing streaks early and mid season.

Stalock went from something like 3.10 to 2.70, so he is playing "better". Dubnyk is at 3.30 is at $4m price tag, ouch.

Dumba and (especially) Brodin deserve some credit for playing better, but dumping Dubnyk's salary is something the Wild hasn't even hinted at for some reason.

Recent history is that it's possible to find serviceable goaltending for really cheap. Hell, the reigning cup holders found it in the AHL. There is basically no market for high-priced goalies anymore. Particularly when you look at what's going on in Florida right now and how signing the high-price goalie has probably crippled that organization for the next decade.

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Strife2
02/23/20 9:32:12 AM
#369:


And 4m is probably a bargain bin deal in comparison, so maybe that's why the Wild don't bother.

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MartinFF7
02/23/20 1:11:07 PM
#370:


okay Shadow Dino, the only way I win my goalie stats for the week is if Crawford lets in at least 4 goals. Don't fail me now!!

SmartMuffin posted...
Recent history is that it's possible to find serviceable goaltending for really cheap. Hell, the reigning cup holders found it in the AHL. There is basically no market for high-priced goalies anymore.

I was just thinking about this recently (beyond the Samsonov/Holtby dynamic) when commentators were mulling about the Avalanche possibly looking for a goalie if Grubauer's injury looks longer-term. Then Francouz goes out and lets in 2 goals in 3 games, and was a little over 2 minutes away from only 1 goal in 3 games. And those 3 games were in 4 days!

Not like the 3 teams were world beaters or anything, but still. And now they extended him for 2 yrs/4 million which again, is pretty nice in the grand scheme of things, certainly nicer than 10 mill per. Which also brings us back to Columbus getting quality goaltending from Latvian no-names this year.

The Binnington story will always be classic though...
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SmartMuffin
02/23/20 1:51:09 PM
#371:


And of course, Grubauer was hurt for a bit earlier this year, too.

Francouz is 16-5-3 with a 2.27 GAA and a 0.927 save percentage. Those are better stats than Grubauer, and that save percentage is better than basically every starter in the league except Rask and Jarry.

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MartinFF7
02/23/20 2:05:58 PM
#372:


Dont forget Kuemper!!

...everyone's forgotten Kuemper

The question is whether he returns in the Vezina form or not...
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Strife2
02/23/20 2:15:32 PM
#373:


The fact Kuemper became a #1 guy elsewhere tells me all I need to know...

Just like Twins players.

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SmartMuffin
02/23/20 2:59:16 PM
#374:


https://twitter.com/NathanGraviteh/status/1231661557597253632

I like Carlson but this is just embarrassing...

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SmartMuffin
02/23/20 3:12:24 PM
#375:


Seriously, here are the Top 5 goalies in the league with a minimum of 25 games played by save percentage, and their contract status (most recent contract or extension signed):

  1. Kuemper - 0.929 - 2 yrs, 4.5m/yr
  2. Rask - 0.928 - 8 yrs, 7m/yr
  3. Jarry - 0.927 - 2 yrs, 675k/yr
  4. Francouz - 0.927 - 2 yrs, 2m/yr
  5. Khudoblin - 0.926 - 2 yrs, 2.5m/yr


With the exception of Rask, all of these guys were backups and could have been had for peanuts as recently as two years ago.

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SmartMuffin
02/23/20 3:24:18 PM
#376:


Kuemper, Jarry, Francouz, and Khudoblin, combined, have a cap hit of less than Price (23rd in save percentage) or Bobrovsky (43rd, lol)

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TheKnightOfNee
02/23/20 7:25:52 PM
#377:


Mike Green and Andreas Athanasiou are healthy scratches tonight. Likely trades incoming.

Athanasiou plus/minus might finally stop plummeting now.

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Whiskey_Nick
02/23/20 7:53:25 PM
#378:


Bogosian to the Lightning

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Strife2
02/23/20 8:13:21 PM
#379:


C'mon Blues. Blow the Wild away tonight. Koivu fucked over Guerin, but you can help by beating their brains in.

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Shadow Dino
02/23/20 8:21:12 PM
#380:


https://twitter.com/CanadiensMTL/status/1231749341976711168

Kovalchuk to the Capitals

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Strife2
02/23/20 9:45:24 PM
#381:


St. Louis doing good

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SmartMuffin
02/23/20 10:59:28 PM
#382:


TheKnightOfNee posted...
Mike Green and Andreas Athanasiou are healthy scratches tonight. Likely trades incoming.

Athanasiou plus/minus might finally stop plummeting now.

Trading for Mike Green was a terrible idea five years ago. Why in God's name would anybody do it now?

And wasn't Athanasiou supposed to be part of Detroit's young rebuild?

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linid0t
02/23/20 11:06:15 PM
#383:


Kuemper did a short stint in the AHL and is now back with Arizona so I expect him to finally start this coming week

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TheKnightOfNee
02/24/20 12:38:40 AM
#384:


SmartMuffin posted...
Trading for Mike Green was a terrible idea five years ago. Why in God's name would anybody do it now?

And wasn't Athanasiou supposed to be part of Detroit's young rebuild?
Oilers wanted Mike Green! (aka, Ken Holland wanted to trade for him again)

https://twitter.com/DetroitRedWings/status/1231815343796113408

The conditional is either a 3rd or 4th rounder

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Shadow Dino
02/24/20 12:38:49 AM
#385:


https://twitter.com/EdmontonOilers/status/1231814289314344960?s=19

SMuffin, please roast the Oilers.

I for one am surprised Mike Green is still playing.

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SmartMuffin
02/24/20 8:13:35 AM
#386:


Shadow Dino posted...
SMuffin, please roast the Oilers.

First round exit. Regardless of opponent. Book it.

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MartinFF7
02/24/20 8:23:08 AM
#387:


But muh powerplay quarterback!

(has he even been that in years?)
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Crescent-Moon
02/24/20 8:27:01 AM
#388:


Why do you hate Mike Green so much anyways?

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Strife2
02/24/20 9:05:22 AM
#389:


Russo Rumor 1 million: Haula returns to Wild + Canes 1st for Dumba or Brodin.

With Koivu and Granlund gone, it would have been nice to see what Haula could do as a #2 center. I don't think he or Nino are top line guys in the Canes system right now, but Haula and Tuch being Vegas fodder still stings.

Would be interesting to say the least, Haula would be defacto #1 if Staal declined.

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RPGlord95
02/24/20 10:18:59 AM
#390:


Haula and Wallmark to Florida for Trochek

Namestnikov to Colorado for a 4th

Pageau to Islanders for a 1, 2 and 3

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RPGlord95
02/24/20 11:18:15 AM
#391:


Marleau to Penguins for a 3rd

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RPGlord95
02/24/20 11:53:00 AM
#392:


Why are the Sabres buying?

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davidponte
02/24/20 12:24:06 PM
#393:


Hutch to the Avs for Rosen.

Now do Barrie + Kerfoot for Kadri
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Strife2
02/24/20 12:48:24 PM
#394:


Parise traded? Um...wow.

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davidponte
02/24/20 1:24:48 PM
#395:


If the Parise trade happens and he retires in 2024 the Wild will face a 19 million dollar cap hit for the season.

Boy do I love cap recapture penalties. Almost as hilarious as the 24 million cap hit the Preds will pay if Weber retires in the final year of his contract.
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Strife2
02/24/20 1:26:13 PM
#396:


Oof. Well, it isn't official yet, because Ladd is "part of the potential return"

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Strife2
02/24/20 3:45:55 PM
#397:


Deadline passed, so the Parise deal is probably dead.

Standing pat it is then

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linid0t
02/24/20 4:03:09 PM
#398:


Oh wow islanders got pageau

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Shadow Dino
02/24/20 4:09:50 PM
#399:


Gustafsson and Lehner traded for mid round picks, a backup goalie, and a mid-level prospect.

Meh.

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Crescent-Moon
02/24/20 4:15:05 PM
#400:


I feel like the Islanders aren't good enough to be trading away three picks.

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SmartMuffin
02/24/20 6:12:11 PM
#401:


Crescent-Moon posted...
I feel like the Islanders aren't good enough to be trading away three picks.

On the one hand, yes, that was entirely too much to give up for Pageau.

On the other hand, they signed him to a pretty reasonable deal, so maybe it's worth it for that?

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