Poll of the Day > Rand Paul: Pilgrims Rejected Socialism

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BUMPED2002
12/05/19 11:54:17 AM
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Rand Paul's Thanksgiving message: Be thankful Pilgrims rejected socialism
Your thoughts?

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Lokarin
12/05/19 12:15:45 PM
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I like his drag race

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Nichtcrawler X
12/05/19 12:18:09 PM
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Considering what I know about the pilgrims and US treatment of the Native Americans, sounds about right for the US mindset.

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Mead
12/05/19 12:25:43 PM
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Most of the pilgrims died of disease or went back to europe. What socialism is he claiming they supposedly rejected?

why are people so dumb when it comes to the history of this country

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DirtBasedSoap
12/05/19 8:02:44 PM
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Lokarin posted...
I like his drag race
lmao

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Krazy_Kirby
12/05/19 8:23:42 PM
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well socialism is bad, so.....
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Metalsonic66
12/05/19 8:46:10 PM
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But religious persecution bro

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Lokarin
12/05/19 8:47:10 PM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
But religious persecution bro

According to Jontron, the reason the Pilgrims left is because they were ultra-puritans and wanted to keep the ability to persecute others.

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BeerOnTap
12/05/19 8:56:33 PM
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BUMPED2002 posted...
Rand Paul's Thanksgiving message: Be thankful Pilgrims rejected socialism
Your thoughts?

He's right. Initially they tried a socialist approach in their settlements. Naturally, of course, it didn't work.
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Mead
12/06/19 12:37:50 AM
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BeerOnTap posted...
He's right. Initially they tried a socialist approach in their settlements. Naturally, of course, it didn't work.

omg I cant believe socialist policies didnt work in settlements of twenty people and no infrastructure

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TheWitchMorgana
12/06/19 12:39:10 AM
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socialism is when you have to wait in lines for things, i think

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OhhhJa
12/06/19 12:43:15 AM
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Socialism is having a lazy populace so that your country has to rely on capitalist countries that actually contribute to the global economy to survive
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BlackScythe0
12/06/19 12:43:49 AM
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Does he think the pilgrims are responsible for the US government or something? Or in any way related to our government?
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DirtBasedSoap
12/06/19 12:47:39 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Does he think the pilgrims are responsible for the US government or something? Or in any way related to our government?
pilgrims orchestrated 9/11

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joemodda
12/06/19 1:18:28 AM
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Pilgrims did nothing wrong. Those native Americans? They were xenophobes and got what was coming to them

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Metalsonic66
12/06/19 1:29:03 AM
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Savages
Savages
Barely even HUMAN

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BeerOnTap
12/06/19 3:22:54 AM
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Mead posted...
omg I cant believe socialist policies didnt work in settlements of twenty people and no infrastructure

they dont work anywhere. Ever. And lead to misery and demise.
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Gaawa_chan
12/06/19 3:25:00 AM
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This is all anyone needs to know about Rand Paul:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFyutWG8Sx0

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Nichtcrawler X
12/06/19 6:42:13 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
well socialism is bad, so.....

Uhm, nope?

Countries that tried to become fully socialist, actually going through the Marxian revolution, tended to have someone take dictatorial power during one of the steps.

The concepts themselves are sound, it is just that the path to fully go there relies to much on corruptible individuals.

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Mead
12/06/19 7:03:47 AM
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BeerOnTap posted...
they dont work anywhere. Ever. And lead to misery and demise.

thats actually not correct. Most developed countries have implemented many socialist policies while not becoming a fully socialist country and many of those programs are very successful and beneficial to their citizens.

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Gaawa_chan
12/06/19 7:24:33 AM
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BeerOnTap posted...
they dont work anywhere. Ever. And lead to misery and demise.
Yeah, like the evil socialist policies of Lula Da Silva which resulted in literal tens of millions of people being dragged out of pover- oh, wait, no... that worked... hmm, let's see...

Yeah, like the evil socialist policies of Evo Morales which resulted in massive GDP growth and the poverty rate of Bolivia being cut in hal- no, wait... nope, that's not right, huh... uh...

But you need not fret. The CIA will make sure that the big spoopy socialist programs go away, like they always have.

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Mead
12/06/19 7:40:54 AM
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Gaawa_chan posted...
Yeah, like the evil socialist policies of Lula Da Silva which resulted in literal tens of millions of people being dragged out of pover- oh, wait, no... that worked... hmm, let's see...

Yeah, like the evil socialist policies of Evo Morales which resulted in massive GDP growth and the poverty rate of Bolivia being cut in hal- no, wait... nope, that's not right, huh... uh...

But you need not fret. The CIA will make sure that the big spoopy socialist programs go away, like they always have.

Its almost like there can be bad socialist policies, like literally anything else.

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Krazy_Kirby
12/06/19 9:26:08 AM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...


Uhm, nope?

Countries that tried to become fully socialist, actually going through the Marxian revolution, tended to have someone take dictatorial power during one of the steps.

The concepts themselves are sound, it is just that the path to fully go there relies to much on corruptible individuals.


why should you work if others are going to provide for you?
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BUMPED2002
12/06/19 9:34:16 AM
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Mead posted...
Most of the pilgrims died of disease or went back to europe. What socialism is he claiming they supposedly rejected?

((why are people so dumb when it comes to the history of this country))

No idea because America has used socialist ideals for a very long time. Handing out millions of acres of land to newly arriving poor penniless European immigrants out west (land they'd stolen from Native Americans) and redistributing it to the Europeans .... is socialism.

FDR's New Deal programs (SS, FHA loans, Minimum Wage, Unemployment Insurance etc) were all done using socialist ideals. I'm like you why don't people in America not know the history of this country.

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BUMPED2002
12/06/19 9:36:19 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
why should you work if others are going to provide for you?
Because America doled out millions of acres of land out west via Homestead Acts in the 1860s/1870s and no one White had an issue with it. NONE OF THESE PEOPLE WORKED OR EARNED THAT LAND SO.

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GastroFan
12/06/19 2:08:59 PM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
Uhm, nope?

Countries that tried to become fully socialist, actually going through the Marxian revolution, tended to have someone take dictatorial power during one of the steps.

The concepts themselves are sound, it is just that the path to fully go there relies to much on corruptible individuals.

Eerily similar to what's going on in DC now, isn't it? In this case though it's people like Rand Paul that are behind it.

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Kyuubi4269
12/06/19 3:39:25 PM
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Gaawa_chan posted...
Yeah, like the evil socialist policies of Lula Da Silva which resulted in literal tens of millions of people being dragged out of pover- oh, wait, no... that worked... hmm, let's see...

Yeah, like the evil socialist policies of Evo Morales which resulted in massive GDP growth and the poverty rate of Bolivia being cut in hal- no, wait... nope, that's not right, huh... uh...

What policies were these?
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Muscles
12/06/19 3:59:36 PM
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While I don't agree with Rand Paul on everything (I like his dad even better) I think he's one of the very few honorable politicians, he actually cares about liberty and not party lines

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BlackScythe0
12/07/19 12:02:48 AM
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Muscles posted...
While I don't agree with Rand Paul on everything (I like his dad even better) I think he's one of the very few honorable politicians, he actually cares about liberty and not party lines
lol what the fuck?
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Mead
12/07/19 2:54:24 AM
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Muscles posted...
While I don't agree with Rand Paul on everything (I like his dad even better) I think he's one of the very few honorable politicians, he actually cares about liberty and not party lines

you have no idea what you are talking about

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Sahuagin
12/07/19 5:35:37 PM
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BUMPED2002 posted...
Be thankful Pilgrims rejected socialism

basically just a "<entity you're bound to respect> supports <ideology I want to sell you>" template (with a negation)

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