Poll of the Day > Is the beta over?

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I was wondering because the new box was at the bottom, but I dont remember hitting the button. Though, I was still able to change it back...
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LinkPizza posted...

I was wondering because the new box was at the bottom, but I dont remember hitting the button. Though, I was still able to change it back...

So instead of showing code, it now just shows the result? That's not the worst change ever, although strike-through looks very weird in this preview...

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Clearly since the gamefaqs upload/imbed button is active.

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Zangulus posted...

It looks like theyre forcing everyone to change over. I prefer the old way and have changed it back 3 times but it keeps coming to the new version.

Mine hasnt changed back yet. Try changing it back now. It might stay...
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Zangulus posted...

They changed the setting so that might have been why.

Yeah. I noticed that it looked a little different when I changed it back earlier. Should be fine now...
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new spoilers button is nifty

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Zangulus posted...

It looks like theyre forcing everyone to change over. I prefer the old way and have changed it back 3 times but it keeps coming to the new version.

Really? That will be annoying. I switched over because my phone doesn't like the change, no text entry box available.
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The new engine is more modernised in design, which I like. Additionally, it comes with its own image hosting so I dont have to use imgtc or imgur any longer. I see no reason to choose the old one anymore.

oh they finally actually added a white box where the text goes instead of it being the same color as the fucking background

the one thing i don't like about it is that you can't just manually format the text.

if you want to <b>bold</b> a word, you have to stop typing, go click the button, type what you want, go click the button again, start typing only to realize you're still typing in bold or whatever because you didn't put a space after the word you wanted formatted, so now you have to erase what you just typed that's erroneously bold, make sure there's a space after the word you did want bold, then go back and click the fucking button

it's annoying.

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There's no fucking text box for posting when using the cloudy blue theme. T_T

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dragon504 posted...

There's no fucking text box for posting when using the cloudy blue theme. T_T

It's there. You just can't see it. Lol

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it's there, under the buttons, where it's always been.

there's also thin, almost invisible lines, as a border.



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it also works fine on my phone.

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Why is it when I put a link in my post, it multiplies it after I post it?

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Inm9AL4mB4" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" style="cursor:help;display:inline !important;">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Inm9AL4mB4</a>;

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Ill probably keep the old way for now. I like it. And Im use to it... And it works fine, so far...
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Zangulus posted...

It looks like theyre forcing everyone to change over.

They usually do whenever they make a change. Because they don't actually give a shit whether or not you want it or like it or would prefer to continue using the old way, because that would require them to do actual work.

It's not hard to set things up to allow for multiple input methods (even Reddit still has their new editor and older version), but that requires slightly more coding and understanding of how code actually works.
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Nichtcrawler X posted...

So instead of showing code, it now just shows the result? That's not the worst change ever, although strike-through looks very weird in this preview...

It's fucking up a few things (par for the course whenever GameFAQs introduces something new - they add one new thing and then break three old ones).

As you can actually see in your post, it seems to force double line spacing after quotes. Using the new editor it seems you're stuck with either no space or double space with no way in-between. Which is pretty much the default when you use the old method.

It also forces quotes into the new method even if you're using the old method for display, which actually makes the editor the opposite of WYSISWG, because what you're seeing while typing isn't what you're getting when you post.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

it seems to force double line spacing after quotes.

good, because that's the proper way to do it.

also, i received this as a response to my feedback ticket



no, allen or whoever responded. what i'm looking for is brackets.

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Bulbasaur posted...

good, because that's the proper way to do it.

also, i received this as a response to my feedback ticket



no, allen or whoever responded. what i'm looking for is brackets.

Good. I knew the box was physically there, it's just not visibly.

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Yay, it's white now and fixed.

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ur welcome boo

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Bulbasaur posted...

good, because that's the proper way to do it.

Double spacing is gross. Id take no spacing before double space. But I like single space.

They also changed it so that if youre quoting multiple quotes, it only quotes the most recent person. For the old way, that is. I dont know about the new way...
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Bulbasaur posted...

oh they finally actually added a white box where the text goes instead of it being the same color as the fucking background

the one thing i don't like about it is that you can't just manually format the text.

if you want to <b>bold</b> a word, you have to stop typing, go click the button, type what you want, go click the button again, start typing only to realize you're still typing in bold or whatever because you didn't put a space after the word you wanted formatted, so now you have to erase what you just typed that's erroneously bold, make sure there's a space after the word you did want bold, then go back and click the fucking button

it's annoying.

You know you can just highlight the text and choose whatever format you want it to be in, correct? Its essentially like typing out a document in Microsoft Word.

Silver4405 posted...

You know you can just highlight the text and choose whatever format you want it to be in, correct? Its essentially like typing out a document in Microsoft Word.

i do know that

and it's still more effort than just using brackets

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Bulbasaur posted...

good, because that's the proper way to do it.

It looks like shit, so no.

Though the other problem there might be that what looks good one way doesn't look good another way. So it may depend on if you're still using the quote box or have shifted to inline quoting. No space and double-space look like shit with quote boxes. And since those are the thing I use, it's also the only thing I care about.

(I also don't know if the new editor has the same problem the old editor had with line breaks, which is that it's too stupid or too overprotective to accept multiple breaks in a row, so you're forced to resort to code-based fuckery to trick the editor into doing what you want. I constantly have to add unwanted code to most of my posts to force it to look the way I want it to. But if that's still a problem, it would actually be worse in the new editor, because you'd lack the tools to fix anything.)

Though even beyond that, the site has a nasty habit of inserting random line breaks into things after the fact that make things look even worse regardless of what you've typed. But that's not a new thing (it's been that way for a while now), and mostly only becomes an issue when you're quoting other people.



Silver4405 posted...

You know you can just highlight the text and whatever format you want it to be in, correct? Its essentially like typing out a document in Microsoft Word.

You could do that in the old editor as well, though. Just highlight something and hit Ctrl B/I/S/etc. It auto-inserts the brackets for you.

But honestly, after nearly 25 years of coding and typing chat/message board text in code, I can actually type open/closed brackets and formatting faster than I can stop, highlight, and hit formatting buttons (or even just click buttons in an editor that works like Word). So personally I'll always prefer being able to code text rather than being forced into an awkward UI (though I do understand why some people might prefer it, and don't mind it being provided as an option as long as the old option isn't completely done away with in the process).

Honestly, that's always been my biggest problem with GameFAQs updates. When they provide new features as something you can opt into/out of but with the established system still there, it's fine. I really only loathe their changes when they introduce unnecessary bullshit and then force you to use it whether you want to or not.

They've actually been pretty good about making most of the recent changes optional, though. They just need to learn to communicate changes better, and make it more obvious how to switch back away from the default option and I might almost be positive about some of it.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Though even beyond that, the site has a nasty habit of inserting random line breaks into things after the fact that make things look even worse regardless of what you've typed. But that's not a new thing (it's been that way for a while now), and mostly only becomes an issue when you're quoting other people.

Its probably because they removed quoting within quotes or whatever they did. So, it makes a space for the quote, but leaves it empty. So, if somebody quotes another person without saying anything, and you try to quote them, it will tell you that theres nothing in the message to quote...
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

They just need to learn to communicate changes better, and make it more obvious how to switch back away from the default option and I might almost be positive about some of it.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/6-gamefaqs-announcements

on every post about a change going live, there's always a line about how you can go back to the old style, if it's being kept, and where to find the option (always advanced settings, btw.).

if they did any other way of telling people how things were being changed, such as a notification on the header, or the old style of being told you have a moderation with it appearing above the board name, then everyone would complain, like they already do about anything.

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Silver4405 posted...

The new engine is more modernised in design, which I like. Additionally, it comes with its own image hosting so I dont have to use imgtc or imgur any longer. I see no reason to choose the old one anymore.

I wonder if thats the reason they werent working with Imgur for that short time...
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LinkPizza posted...

I wonder if thats the reason they werent working with Imgur for that short time...

no, the reason imgur stopped working was due to imgur.

they don't like people hotlinking how gamefaqs did, which is why the new hotlinking has shitty headers. that, and combined with imgtc, there wasn't a reason to bring imgur back.

it was actually imgtc going away that prompted them to re-add imgur hotlinking, and then it ultimately ended up with gamefaqs just having its own hosting.

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Bulbasaur posted...

they don't like people hotlinking how gamefaqs did, which is why the new hotlinking has shitty headers

And ad tracking crap, I imagine
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Interesting....

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Bulbasaur posted...

on every post about a change going live, there's always a line about how you can go back to the old style, if it's being kept, and where to find the option (always advanced settings, btw.)

I don't really feel like that's enough communication, because it's actually hard for more casual users to find the Announcements board if they don't already know where it is, or aren't checking it on a regular basis (and when they tend to post there after making changes, with no real advanced warning). And just saying you can change it back in your settings isn't necessarily helpful for everyone, when a more detailed explanation how can make things way easier (and which isn't even that difficult for them, because it's what people on the boards all wind up posting to other people anyway, which means it's just a case of Allen being a lazy fuck).

More open communication and clearer explanations would probably cut back on a lot of the negativity every time they make a change. Especially when every time it winds up resulting in like two dozen topics talking about how ugly everything looks or how terrible it is and complaining that they don't know how to turn it off.



Bulbasaur posted...

if they did any other way of telling people how things were being changed, such as a notification on the header, or the old style of being told you have a moderation with it appearing above the board name, then everyone would complain, like they already do about anything.

By that logic, they should never do anything, ever, because no matter what they do people will always complain, and it isn't worth doing something if people are going to complain.

The thing is, if they're so bound and determined to try and give "the kids" what they want in a desperate attempt to draw new users to the site (which isn't really working), at the very least they should do as much as possible to try and minimize the degree of negative backlash, rather than just shrugging and assuming we'll sort it out ourselves. When they do the bare minimum, they kind of only have themselves to blame when it creates a culture of people hating every new change and constantly shit-talking how inept people running the site are.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

The thing is, if they're so bound and determined to try and give "the kids" what they want in a desperate attempt to draw new users to the site

who is to say that's why they're doing these changes?

to me, they're just updating the site to not be stuck in the 90's like it was up until about 4 years ago.

these are all quality of life changes, and they're all objectively good changes. you're just unhappy because they're don't function how you want.

there's nothing actually bad about the new chat system. it works how it should. and it allows for native image embedding, regardless of your feelings on image embedding, this is actually a really great thing that people have been asking for, for decades.

but, to you, it's garbage because it...linebreaks after a quote? does a few other minor things? that's nothing.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

I don't really feel like that's enough communication,

it's fine. it's not bad, at the very least. there's no reason for them to push a notification to everyone going "hey look at this stuff that 99% of users here don't really care about!".

the information is there if you want to see it, otherwise it can be ignored. or do you want them to be like reddit, with obnoxious popups all the time? you want them to post it on the home page that...no one goes to?

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I can't wait for avatars to be added!

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Bulbasaur posted...

the information is there if you want to see it

hey look no more double break after quotes

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Bulbasaur posted...

hey look no more double break after quotes

They addressed that yesterday:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/6-gamefaqs-announcements/78226117/931155333

The double-or-nothing line break is the only thing I disliked about the new engine, so Im glad they rectified that.