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EzeDoesIt
12/02/19 1:36:33 AM
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Played and enjoyed Tactics Advanced as a kid but never tried the OG. Playing on the PS3 Store version.

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Jabodie
12/02/19 1:37:07 AM
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Are you getting fucked over by the black mages yet?
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TheDreadedWave
12/02/19 1:37:39 AM
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l.i.t.t.l.e m.o.n.e.y

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Questionmarktarius
12/02/19 1:42:06 AM
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Are you keeping two saves?
If not, you really should.
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Bad_Mojo
12/02/19 1:43:11 AM
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It's Gamefaqs law to @ me in all FFT topics. You have to @Shotgunnova as well

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Shotgunnova
12/02/19 1:49:06 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Are you keeping two saves?
If not, you really should.



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Jabodie
12/02/19 1:50:06 AM
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Two saves?

What for? I legit don't remember any need, but it's been a while since I've played it.
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TheDreadedWave
12/02/19 1:50:48 AM
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Jabodie posted...
Two saves?

What for?
Probably Riovanes

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Jabodie
12/02/19 1:52:08 AM
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Oh yeah, that's right.
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Bad_Mojo
12/02/19 1:54:14 AM
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Things you should know -

  • Reaction % is your Brave. Ramza starts with 70 Brave, thus an Auto-Potion will happen 70% of the time
  • Faith is for Magic damage and statuses. If you have 70 Faith you will not only do more damage with a Fire spell, but you will also take more damage from a Fire spell. Stop will hit you more often, but so will Haste.
  • Always check the Turn Order. This is help you know who is going to move next, but it will also tell you if your spell will hit the target before they move
  • Speaking of Turn Order, this is more of an advance tip, but if you only do 1 of your actions [move or attack] and then don't use the other [Use a Potion on yourself and not move, for example] that unit's turn will come up quicker. Again, this is more of advanced tip
  • If the game asks if you want to save it, save it in a new slot. There are some battles that you can't get back to the world map, so it's good to have a save before that so you can either level up or get better gear
  • Stat giving equipment is better than a little extra HP. Meaning that clothes are a lot better than armor pretty quickly in the game
  • Do your own thing. There are going to be a lot of people that come in here to say to make this or that. Just have fun
  • Random fights are based on your team's level. Story fights are set to levels unless they're monsters, which will always be around your level as well [I could be wrong about a certain storyline one]


If anyone else has anything to add, go for it

Have fun, it's my favorite game of all time and I'm really good at it. Just let ask if you have any questions about the mechanics of the game.

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Questionmarktarius
12/02/19 1:55:32 AM
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Jabodie posted...
Two saves?

What for?

Anywhere there's a "chain" of consecutive battles. There's almost always a brickwall boss at the end (and sometimes the brickwall is after the boss).
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Divinehero
12/02/19 1:56:42 AM
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iirc faith also affects magic hit rate at least for incoming spells (both good and bad i believe) meaning some1 w/ low faith will be hard to revive w/ the life spell for example
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Guerrilla Soldier
12/02/19 2:06:05 AM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
Do your own thing. There are going to be a lot of people that come in here to say to make this or that. Just have fun

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Bad_Mojo
12/02/19 2:14:14 AM
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Divinehero posted...
iirc faith also affects magic hit rate at least for incoming spells (both good and bad i believe) meaning some1 w/ low faith will be hard to revive w/ the life spell for example


Correct

Damage, Hit%, Healing%, Damage taken, ect. So if you're going to use a lot of Magic users, have them all be High Faith so all your shit connects like Haste and Protect/Shell.

I just thought of a couple more as well

  • Magic can hit everyone that is in the AoE and can miss. Summons are 100% and will only hit enemies
  • Draw Out is based on Magic power
  • There is a growth rate in this game many people don't know about. If you take 10 levels as a Wizard, you'll gain more Magic Power. A knight more Strength. So if you change your Wizard into a Knight, it's not going to be hitting as hard as a Knight that's been a Knight for 10 levels

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EIiza
12/02/19 2:17:30 AM
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Make SURE that when you encounter a certain enemy with a special job and youre fighting at the gate of a castle, kill this enemy and absorb the crystal with Ramza so you can gain access to that unique job. Thats your only chance to acquire it, TC.
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Bad_Mojo
12/02/19 2:21:04 AM
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EIiza posted...
Make SURE that when you encounter a certain enemy with a special job and youre fighting at the gate of a castle, kill this enemy and absorb the crystal with Ramza so you can gain access to that unique job. Thats your only chance to acquire it, TC.


I don't think you have to absorb the crystal for it. I looked it up and it doesn't say that.

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PowerOats
12/02/19 2:37:02 AM
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Yell is OP
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EIiza
12/02/19 2:38:49 AM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
EIiza posted...
Make SURE that when you encounter a certain enemy with a special job and youre fighting at the gate of a castle, kill this enemy and absorb the crystal with Ramza so you can gain access to that unique job. Thats your only chance to acquire it, TC.


I don't think you have to absorb the crystal for it. I looked it up and it doesn't say that.


But this isnt WotL right? So you do have to absorb the crystal.
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ffmasterjose
12/02/19 2:41:24 AM
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Buttpants
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Shotgunnova
12/02/19 4:45:02 AM
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TheDreadedWave posted...
Probably Riovanes
Yes, that's generally the reason. If you're coasting along and decide to overwrite, you might not expect that battle to be so hard, which can ruin your entire playthrough. I remember sweating bullets during my first playthrough because I encountered the very same situation and only got out with 99% luck crits and such. Of course, nowadays people know the Yell + Accumulate strategy, so good little ubersquires might be able to bootstrap out of a horrible situation.

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PMarth2002
12/02/19 5:19:40 AM
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EIiza posted...
Bad_Mojo posted...
EIiza posted...
Make SURE that when you encounter a certain enemy with a special job and youre fighting at the gate of a castle, kill this enemy and absorb the crystal with Ramza so you can gain access to that unique job. Thats your only chance to acquire it, TC.


I don't think you have to absorb the crystal for it. I looked it up and it doesn't say that.


But this isnt WotL right? So you do have to absorb the crystal.


Are you talking about gafgarion? Becauses you can't unlock dark knight in the original game, thats a WotL thing. absorbing his crystal just gives you a full heal. Unless the PS3 version added that in.
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Keith_Valentine
12/02/19 5:21:52 AM
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Ninjas

Your welcome.
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ffmasterjose
12/02/19 5:24:48 AM
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Dark Knight is a class Ramza can learn in WotL? Damn never knew that.
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EIiza
12/02/19 5:32:12 AM
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PMarth2002 posted...
EIiza posted...
Bad_Mojo posted...
EIiza posted...
Make SURE that when you encounter a certain enemy with a special job and youre fighting at the gate of a castle, kill this enemy and absorb the crystal with Ramza so you can gain access to that unique job. Thats your only chance to acquire it, TC.


I don't think you have to absorb the crystal for it. I looked it up and it doesn't say that.


But this isnt WotL right? So you do have to absorb the crystal.


Are you talking about gafgarion? Becauses you can't unlock dark knight in the original game, thats a WotL thing. absorbing his crystal just gives you a full heal. Unless the PS3 version added that in.


Well I'm certain that it's been known that you can gain access to DK by abosrbing gaff's crystal. You may have to do some other stuff too like recruit cloud and get his gunblade from that volacano.
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_____Cait
12/02/19 5:46:34 AM
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Make sure Ramza has speed boosting abilities.
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Ricemills
12/02/19 5:52:42 AM
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EIiza posted...
Make SURE that when you encounter a certain enemy with a special job and youre fighting at the gate of a castle, kill this enemy and absorb the crystal with Ramza so you can gain access to that unique job. Thats your only chance to acquire it, TC.


also if you having trouble in 1v1 this enemy, you can open the gate to let your allies in by putting Ramza next to the button of the gate's wall.
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CreekCo
12/02/19 7:05:03 AM
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Tag for later
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Kaiganeer
12/02/19 7:17:25 AM
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should play ffta instead, it's better in every way
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ffmasterjose
12/02/19 7:52:52 AM
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I always try and have someone with a few Thief abilities on hand towards the later half of the game. Some weapons and armor can only be acquired via stealing.
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Bad_Mojo
12/02/19 10:20:43 AM
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@EIiza must be trolling, lol. Good stuff

You can only get the Dark Knight class in War Of the Lions, you do not need to absorb to crystal to get it and any unit can become one so long as they meet the requirements - A bunch of Mastered Jobs and 20 kills


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Divinehero
12/02/19 3:07:53 PM
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Kaiganeer posted...
should play ffta instead, it's better in every way


some1 didn't read the 1st post
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Tyranthraxus
12/02/19 3:15:21 PM
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Absorbing the crystal does nothing. You have to unlock that job the hard way.

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TheDreadedWave
12/02/19 3:16:10 PM
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Kaiganeer posted...
should play ffta instead, it's better in every way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhckuhUxcgA

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Bad_Mojo
12/02/19 11:07:23 PM
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Tyranthraxus
12/02/19 11:08:26 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
TC went Ninja and Vanished
He's trying to unlock calculator probably

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jkiteym
12/03/19 1:11:37 AM
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If the game gets too frustrating, just cheat.
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EIiza
12/03/19 1:13:03 AM
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An enemy time mage cast Stop on TC. Hes stuck in time guys :3
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Kaiganeer
12/03/19 1:14:13 AM
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Divinehero posted...
some1 didn't read the 1st post
ffta2 is also better than fft in every way and thus a valid choice
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DuranOfForcena
12/03/19 1:22:17 AM
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wtf is this about unlocking a unique job by absorbing a crystal? never heard of it.

anyway, i'm playing through WotL right now myself. great game. such a better localization than the OG. i attempted to get through the OG version several times over the years and i don't think i ever made it past chapter 2, because i just couldn't stand the terrible localization.

i'm about halfway through chapter 4 in WotL right now, finally unlocked Dark Knight for Ramza, and i almost have all the spells i want learned for my Summoner/Mystic and White Mage/Time Mage.
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Tyranthraxus
12/03/19 2:05:09 AM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
wtf is this about unlocking a unique job by absorbing a crystal? never heard of it.

anyway, i'm playing through WotL right now myself. great game. such a better localization than the OG. i attempted to get through the OG version several times over the years and i don't think i ever made it past chapter 2, because i just couldn't stand the terrible localization.

i'm about halfway through chapter 4 in WotL right now, finally unlocked Dark Knight for Ramza, and i almost have all the spells i want learned for my Summoner/Mystic and White Mage/Time Mage.
WotL if you get a character to kill 20 units and absorb their crystals it unlocks Gafgarion's Dark Knight Job. There's some other prerequisites as well like 8 other jobs mastered or something.

You don't have to absorb any specific unit's crystals. Randoms are fine.

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DuranOfForcena
12/03/19 2:07:03 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
WotL if you get a character to kill 20 units and absorb their crystals it unlocks Gafgarion's Dark Knight Job. There's some other prerequisites as well like 8 other jobs mastered or something.

You don't have to absorb any specific unit's crystals. Randoms are fine.

yeah i know about that. i just don't know what Eliza is talking about. i guess he's just trolling like that other dude said.
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Tyranthraxus
12/03/19 2:13:26 AM
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I think he was talking about the Dark Knight Job but had the unlock requirements confused.

Ramza already has a unique class anyway. His Squire is different from the others.

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DuranOfForcena
12/03/19 2:17:24 AM
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since stat growth has been mentioned, one thing i don't get is, according to this table:

https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Stat_growth_(Tactics)#Normal_jobs_2

almost every normal job has the same Magic Attack growth rate, and it's low? is that accurate? if that's the case, wouldn't it best for your mages to just level them up as Ninjas as much as you can for the higher speed growth?
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Tyranthraxus
12/03/19 2:19:13 AM
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Stat growth doesn't really matter unless you're trying to do something weird

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DuranOfForcena
12/03/19 2:26:44 AM
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lol i dunno i wouldn't really consider minmaxing weird. i have already been leveling all my main party as Ninjas for the higher speed growth, but i wasn't planning on doing it forever, especially for the frontline characters who would benefit from more HP growth. but if there is literally no normal job whose magic attack growth is higher than any other jobs', i might as well just level my mages as Ninjas for the rest of the game, right? i mean, if that table is accurate about magic attack growth.
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Bad_Mojo
12/03/19 10:55:57 AM
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You dont want your magic users to be faster. You want the enemy to go right before you so you can land spells. If you go right before them, the theyll move before the spell lands.

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DuranOfForcena
12/03/19 1:28:10 PM
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i have them both with Swiftness. landing spells has never been an issue for me. i usually target the unit when that's the better option anyway, not the tile. and in any case, once i get their speed up to where they are taking 2 or 3 turns before the enemy even takes one, the enemies are not going to get the opportunity to move.
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Bad_Mojo
12/04/19 7:53:24 PM
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Most of the credit goes to - @Melanchthon

Archers are Awesome, until you get Thieves
Geomancers are Graceful and stir up the leaves
Thieves are Thorough when stripping your gear
Priests are Predacious when armed with a spear
Mediators are Masters at raising your brave
Chemists are Champs at sending undead to the grave
Dancers are Dangerous and move with such grace
Oracles are Outrageous with a stick in your face
Knights are Knowledgeable but often abused
Ninjas are Nasty however theyre used
Mimes are mindless; they do as theyre told
Samurais are Strenuous, time-consuming and bold
Wizards are Wicked at sealing your fate
Calculators are Cautious and make everyone wait
Summoners are Superior and make enemies cry
Time Mages are Terrors when dropping rocks from the sky
Bards are Beneficial and stay in the back
Special classes are special (except for Malak)
Lancers are Leapers who make excellent tanks
Squires are Steppingstones and deserve our thanks

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PMarth2002
12/04/19 9:44:03 PM
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I like most of that, but why knowledgable for knights?

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