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solosnake
12/01/19 5:02:43 AM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-50619941

"I don't hate them at all," he said. "And some of them I have great respect for, and great love for, almost. Some of them were so compassionate and such lovely, lovely people. And it really led me to think about... how did they end up like this?"

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metallica846
12/01/19 5:05:39 AM
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That's some crazy shit to have to go through...

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Ricemills
12/01/19 6:14:33 AM
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Taliban was US's ally during cold war, but many people think that they're the same as ISIS or alqaeda.

i remember reading an article that more Afghanistan people died in the hand of their own government and US Army than the Taliban.

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Trelve
12/01/19 6:18:13 AM
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It's hard to keep stock in Afghanistan due to the tally ban.
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Crazyman93
12/01/19 6:21:43 AM
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Stockholm Syndrome
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haloiscoolisbak
12/01/19 6:28:00 AM
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Maybe they are really kind and caring to you til it's time to chop your head off in front of a camera

It's kinda odd but possible I guess.
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ArchiePeck
12/01/19 6:36:13 AM
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Remember when Rambo teamed up with those brave freedom fighters in Rambo 3 to run the Russians out of Afghanistan? Oops.
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teepan95
12/01/19 6:38:33 AM
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Guests are taken care of in that part of the world

Plus Islam teaches that one should take care of prisoners of war

Even if they don't follow Islam in literally any other way (due to being terrorists and all), they pride themselves on their treatment of guests
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Solid Sonic
12/01/19 6:42:28 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...
Stockholm Syndrome


Im not sure if and when you can declare that. His remarks seem lucid and rational (that he would rather have not gone through it but the time that he did gave him some new perspective as well).

Given his background as a professor, this surely seems like something that will inspire him to write a book about his experience.

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Ricemills
12/01/19 6:44:02 AM
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haloiscoolisbak posted...
Maybe they are really kind and caring to you til it's time to chop your head off in front of a camera

It's kinda odd but possible I guess.


in some civilized countries, deathrow inmates are treated nicely until their execution. so i guess it's not that odd.

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ROBANN_88
12/01/19 6:52:30 AM
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Ricemills posted...
Taliban was US's ally during cold war, but many people think that they're the same as ISIS or alqaeda.


Honestly, i thought Al Qaeda and Taliban were synonyms
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teepan95
12/01/19 6:57:11 AM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
Ricemills posted...
Taliban was US's ally during cold war, but many people think that they're the same as ISIS or alqaeda.


Honestly, i thought Al Qaeda and Taliban were synonyms

Iirc, Al Qaeda is more Arabic in origin whereas Taliban is more Afghan in origin
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Ricemills
12/01/19 6:58:11 AM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
Honestly, i thought Al Qaeda and Taliban were synonyms


they're allies of similar goal and method, but a separate organizations.

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MARKINGRAM22
12/01/19 6:58:38 AM
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Ricemills posted...
in some civilized countries, deathrow inmates are treated nicely until their execution. so i guess it's not that odd.
These aren't civilized countries. While the Taliban isn't as bad as ISIS prisoners are routinely tortured and gang raped. One thing these groups do though is find the desperate and use them. A lot of the suicide bombers are promised money for their families by these terrorist groups, and many non storming fighters, meaning they don't blow themselves as a last resort after shooting a place up, are physically and mentally handicapped. So many lower level members are abused and manipulated...the huge majority are evil fucking scum though.
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Cobra1010
12/01/19 6:59:00 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...
Stockholm Syndrome


Yeah or hes converted. Why else would they let him go?
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ArchiePeck
12/01/19 7:00:35 AM
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Cobra1010 posted...
Yeah or hes converted. Why else would they let him go?


It's usually in exchange for us letting one of theirs go.
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Monolith1676
12/01/19 7:12:40 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...
Stockholm Syndrome
This was my first thought.

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Serious Cat
12/01/19 7:17:30 AM
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Cobra1010 posted...
Crazyman93 posted...
Stockholm Syndrome


Yeah or hes converted. Why else would they let him go?

Mr Weeks and Mr King, also an academic, were freed this month in exchange for three senior militants held by the Afghan authorities, in a deal aimed at kick-starting peace talks.

Straight from the article.
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Blue_Dream87
12/01/19 7:29:31 AM
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I've heard these stories by other hostages. I think we're used to sensationalized hostage situations and not the reality in some cultures.

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AsucaHayashi
12/01/19 8:01:13 AM
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"At times, I felt as if my death was imminent, and that I would never return to see those that I loved again. But, by the will of God, I am here, I am alive and I am safe - and I am free."

wording seems a bit... fundamentalist
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ThyCorndog
12/01/19 8:13:09 AM
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The Taliban is a local Islamic "government" because they're very tribal over there. It's basically the people in the most rural and isolated areas deciding they don't want to be governed by state law and deciding to govern themselves using religious fundamentalist law. Imagine if some rural areas in the american south decided "fuck the government" and then enacted theocratic christian law

Al Qaeda is the international terrorist organization with international religious and political goals. They basically have nothing to do with each other except that they're allies

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PrettyBoyFloyd
12/01/19 9:34:12 AM
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The Afghan guys were called the Mujahideen.

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Tyranthraxus
12/01/19 9:58:06 AM
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ThyCorndog posted...
Al Qaeda is the international terrorist organization with international religious and political goals. They basically have nothing to do with each other except that they're allies
They're only allies in so far as they both hate a lot of the same people. If they were the only two groups left on Earth they'd be killing each other the way they're doing now to other innocent people.

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ThyCorndog
12/01/19 10:12:42 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
They're only allies in so far as they both hate a lot of the same people. If they were the only two groups left on Earth they'd be killing each other the way they're doing now to other innocent people.
yeah they have some pretty massive disagreements in their goals. allies of convenience would be a better term I guess

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pikachupwnage
12/01/19 10:31:48 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...
Stockholm Syndrome


Yup.

teepan95 posted...
Guests are taken care of in that part of the world

Plus Islam teaches that one should take care of prisoners of war

Even if they don't follow Islam in literally any other way (due to being terrorists and all), they pride themselves on their treatment of guests


Also maybe this. Makes it easier to think you are a good person if you are kind to people except when you do what is necessary
like toss em in a hole in the ground, deprive them of freedom and maybe behead them later.

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mattnd2007
12/01/19 10:49:42 AM
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Taliban are the least terrible group in the middle East. Still bad but not nearly as bad as isis

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Tyranthraxus
12/01/19 11:31:37 AM
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mattnd2007 posted...
Taliban are the least terrible group in the middle East. Still bad but not nearly as bad as isis


I'd probably go as far to say that the state governments of Saudi Arabia and UAE are probably worse than both Taliban and Hamas.

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coolboy11
12/01/19 11:34:18 AM
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Ricemills posted...
Taliban was US's ally during cold war, but many people think that they're the same as ISIS or alqaeda.

i remember reading an article that more Afghanistan people died in the hand of their own government and US Army than the Taliban.

the taliban movement didn't exist during the cold war lol, it was a direct result of the corrupt warlord movements that sprung up in the aftermath of the post Soviet conflict civil war.
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Guide
12/01/19 11:37:52 AM
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This topic is a good place to mention that Stockholm Syndrome isn't a verified condition in any psychological field, despite prominence in media. There's not much research into it, and what research there is doesn't lead to anything conclusive.

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coolboy11
12/01/19 11:39:24 AM
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Guide posted...
This topic is a good place to mention that Stockholm Syndrome isn't a verified condition in any psychological field, despite prominence in media. There's not much research into it, and what research there is doesn't lead to anything conclusive.

listen I have heard of it and it sounds good so that's good enough for me got damn it.
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Guide
12/01/19 11:39:45 AM
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coolboy11 posted...
listen I have heard of it and it sounds good so that's good enough for me got damn it.


huehue

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DocDelicious
12/01/19 12:02:38 PM
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Trelve posted...
It's hard to keep stock in Afghanistan due to the tally ban.

Idk how this piece of gold flew under the radar.
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evil_zombie11
12/03/19 2:14:17 AM
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Propaganda bull****
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kingdrake2
12/04/19 3:16:41 PM
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i think guide is saying he's a stockholm syndrome denier.... just my 2 cents.

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TheMikh
12/04/19 3:26:17 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...

pretty much this

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Crazyman93
12/04/19 6:22:34 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...


I'd probably go as far to say that the state governments of Saudi Arabia and UAE are probably worse than both Taliban and Hamas.

Neither one of those countries puts missiles in people's front yards and kills them if they complain about suddenly being a target for Israeli missiles like Hamas does.
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kingdrake2
12/04/19 6:25:05 PM
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Hamas is still pissed off to this day, they know they're in the wrong they fired first.

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