Board 8 > NFL Discussion Topic - Thanksgiving Edition

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HashtagSEP posted...

GranzonEx posted...

what does winning the SB last year have to do with this year and the years to come?

Because it shows that you're a little bitch who is never going to be happy because you're always going to be looking for reasons why you might not win the next SB to whine and cry about.

I will not have expectations when Brady is gone though?
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GranzonEx posted...

HashtagSEP posted...

GranzonEx posted...

what does winning the SB last year have to do with this year and the years to come?

Because it shows that you're a little bitch who is never going to be happy because you're always going to be looking for reasons why you might not win the next SB to whine and cry about.

I will not have expectations when Brady is gone though?

Oh, that changes everything. Let me rephrase.

Because it shows that you're a spoiled little bitch who is never going to be happy because you're always going to be looking for reasons why you might not win the next SB to whine and cry about.
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but I won't be complaining because I will not have expectations of winning

how hard is that to understand
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I like this Granzon dude. I miss the days when the Yankees were winning all the time and I could still bitch about the team when something doesn't go as planned. ;_;
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Aecioo posted...

These Granzon posts are why people hate Boston fans fyi.

I used to consider myself a Boston fan, but really I just supported their teams to troll people because I thought it was funny how much they hated them. But the whiny fans killed the fun, and I have no connection to the area so I just stopped caring about them

It was easy with NBA and MLB because I always preferred the Suns and Diamondbacks anyway. I never really liked the Cardinals though (and I have a mancrush on Tom Brady) so I'm still rooting for the Patriots. Unfortunately I think Pats fans might be the whiniest of the bunch.

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This feels like a good time for me to give my personal view on sports championships. I've always considered a team having a right to a championship in any sport to be 1 year out of however many teams there are, so in the nfl it would be 1 out of every 32 years I consider a team to be "past due" given perfect parity.

The pats were founded in 1959, so 60 years ago. So if we're generous, we'll say the pats have a right to 2 superbowls.

They have 6. Which not only covers the 2 they're entitled to, but also 4 more sets of 32 years that they should not go with a championship (imo). In other words, the pats have won so much within the last 2 decades, that means that a whole generation of people and some others as well should go from birth to death without seeing their team hoist the trophy, because people like granzon got to experience 6.

Just be grateful for what you've had, and have some perspective. I get that you (granzon) feel like there could have been even more success, and you're probably right. But no matter how successful, no fan should "expect" his team to win the super bowl every single year, that's just not how sports are built. Your team's prior success doesn't give you some sort of moral highground to to expect a win all the time. It's just unreasonable. If what the pats have done isn't good enough for you, that's not the pats problem, it's yours.
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That means I can totally whine about the Orioles since they last won in 83 and before I was born.
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this reminds me of the time Wigs complained that there was nothing worse than being a fan of the Giants, and this was only a year or two after they had won the second Super Bowl over the Pats
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Luckily I am a fan of a franchise that hasn't been around long enough to even fill a single 32 year gap, so I KNOW my championship is coming one day! It's science.
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i just smugly declare that the jets won the most historically important super bowl to poorly hide the despair that this team would sooner be the victim of relegation than win even the conference any time soon
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well with the current state of the Spurs it looks like I'm down to one championship relevant team that I root for

championships are overrated anyway am I right
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Don't worry, it's okay to poke fun at what I said, I'm well aware of how outlandish it sounds lol.

Still not as outlandish and being unsatisfied with 6 championships in 20 years but y'know.
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Moving on, the dude from the cards who got busted for gambling, turns out one of the games he bet on (2nd halves of the games only) was TB -1

he straight up bet against his own team in the 2nd half. That takes balls
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Emeraldegg posted...

Moving on, the dude from the cards who got busted for gambling, turns out one of the games he bet on (2nd halves of the games only) was TB -1

he straight up bet against his own team in the 2nd half. That takes balls

I mean sometimes you just know
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Emeraldegg posted...

Luckily I am a fan of a franchise that hasn't been around long enough to even fill a single 32 year gap, so I KNOW my championship is coming one day! It's science.

*Eye shifts at 1996*
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Minshew Mania is back
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I always feel bad for Lions fans (sorry ninkendo) but then I remember hes got the red wings and the pistons So its not that bad.

I hope you own a megatron jersey @ninkendo

I do
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the Lions have won one playoff game in the last 60 years
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1991!
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Looks like the Pats need a new kicker for the 7th time this year
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Aecioo posted...

These Granzon posts are why people hate Boston fans fyi.

I can only speak for myself, but I only find the bandwagoning, clueless moron Boston fans to be annoying which Granzon doesn't fall into. In other words, if you went to the NFL board, you could not find a Pats fan that Granzon isn't 10 billion times better than.

The last time the Bills lost a Super Bowl was the year I was born :)
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a lot of Pats fans on reddit and on the NFLB gloat and brag when we win the SB so I can see why people don't like it when someone like me brings a different perspective to the whole suffering from success thing
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when I first came to Board 8 the Pats had only won 1 Super Bowl
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Well my 'Please don't kill me Dalvin Cook' plea went well early.

I'm gonna need Penny to stop stealing Carson's touchdowns once the fantasy playoffs actually start
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That looked like Cook was crying? That is not good. That would win me my match but I would never wish a player injury even with money on the line. Hope he's ok.

Long as Carson doesn't fumble I get the #1 seed locked up in my money league...*gulp*

If everything holds I'll be entering the playoffs as the following in my 3 leagues

1 Seed 10-3 (10 man / Fun)
2 Seed 10-3 (16 man / $1000 prize)
3 Seed 7-6 (12 man / $1500 prize) - The 1 and 2 seeds will be 8-5, the other 4 playoff teams will 7-6.

I have the most points scored in all 3 so hopefully I win at least 1 of the money leagues.

Thanks to @greengravy294 for posting this little bit in the discord, apparently kyle allen and josh allen have both thrown 366 passes...and have completed 225 of them. The exact same completion %. That's really creepy.
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Are we sure they are actually different people?
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The second highest scoring team in our league missed the playoffs. The lowest scoring team in our league made the playoffs.

Fantasy football, man.
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This is why roto is the superior fantasy scoring format
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I'm screwed. I made the playoffs with a 5-7 record so naturally I'm up against the guy who's 12-0.

I wish I could get my leagues to agree to a non standard format where teams were rewarded better for their total points

I don't know if roto is the same thing but one of my friends leagues does a league where you play one person and then you also play against the mean or the median, I forgot which, and both results count. So there's an inherent forgiveness factor if the schedule screws you over

Roto is essentially that you don't "play" anyone ever, your team just accrues points and you just go off of total points. It works better for daily stuff admittedly, but it is still the most fair format to exist if you're purely looking for the best team.
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The Patriots cut Forbath to make room for the Chewbacca contract.

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Emeraldegg posted...

Roto is essentially that you don't "play" anyone ever, your team just accrues points and you just go off of total points. It works better for daily stuff admittedly, but it is still the most fair format to exist if you're purely looking for the best team.

Ah so basically exactly how English fantasy football works. I agree that's far better but no way will people agree to it as they like the match ups

I know there's a format where you get half a win for a direct win for your matchup, and you get another half a win if your score is in the top half of the league for the week.
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Pretty much yeah. Just like real life sports, people like playoffs because they generate buzz, even though their existence serves to give the not-best teams a chance to win the whole thing anyway.
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I keep seeing Shaw on reddit and thinking the Shaw gambling was Luck's college coach but it's the actual NFL player on the Cardinals lmao
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I've found roto leagues to be boring. If you want a league that isn't dead but still rewards the top team for having the highest PF, then just divvy the pot up to reward that person. Mine divvies up the scoring title side-pot for the weekly winner. The overall score winner tends to win money in the playoffs and they get 3-5 weeks (on average) so it's a good haul.
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That was how the big money league was supposed to work but the organizer is fucking lazy and just didn't do it

I think I just need better leagues although honestly I didn't even want to play this year anyway so maybe that's the answer

Yeah I will say that roto can lend itself to having many dropouts if they feel they fall too far behind, but personally that's not what I care about. I'm just about seeing who the best team is, and by the numbers, roto does that.
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Riverboat Ron gone

Huh, interesting decision. I imagine he'll be a hot candidate this offseason for another team looking for a coach.
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I will miss you ron. It's not your fault.
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I hope for the Panthers' sake, Hurney is next. I'm not an expert on evaluating coaches or anything, but I felt like the Panthers' issues these past few seasons were a poor job from Hurney and critical injuries exposing the poor depth and talent on a team assembled by Hurney. I know the Panthers got a new owner since Rivera was hired and maybe he wants his own guy, but as Leonhart said, he should be in high demand in the off-season. I can see him in Jacksonville, Atlanta, or Dallas.

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Honestly, I assign some of the blame to cam here because if he had just been honest at the start of the season that his foot was bothering him, he might not have worsened it to the point of being out all year and we might not have gotten to this point.
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