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HeroDelTiempo17
11/26/19 5:07:26 PM
#152:


Kanye 2020

Time to ban premarital sex

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red sox 777
11/26/19 5:09:19 PM
#153:


Also from the Emerson poll, Trump has 38% approval with Hispanic voters. Mittens got 27% on election day.
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Corrik7
11/26/19 5:13:23 PM
#154:


red sox 777 posted...
Probably there's a lot of issues with question wording and stuff like that if there's that big a spread. But if it ends up around 15%, that's pretty good for Trump.
Anything above 7 is frankly not good for Dems.

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LordoftheMorons
11/26/19 5:14:20 PM
#155:


https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1199447168949653504?s=21

Trumps relationship with Turkey needs to be investigated. The possibility that he allowed Erdogan to slaughter the Kurds to protect his own personal interests is too big to ignore.

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red sox 777
11/26/19 5:15:38 PM
#156:


I would be interested in some polling that excises California, New York, and DC from the sample. It could be that the Democrats are only doing decently in the national polls at all because they are running up the numbers in these places even more than usual.
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Corrik7
11/26/19 5:37:43 PM
#157:


red sox 777 posted...
I would be interested in some polling that excises California, New York, and DC from the sample. It could be that the Democrats are only doing decently in the national polls at all because they are running up the numbers in these places even more than usual.
Well, if not for the African-American vote of Philadelphia, Republicans would carry PA every year. So, that's an important bastion for Dems.

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Jakyl25
11/26/19 5:38:43 PM
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red sox 777
11/26/19 7:04:30 PM
#159:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1199132418566971394?s=21

Of course he does. Party of law and order!


The law says that they are pardoned. That means they have been restored to the status of innocent persons. And indeed, innocent people could still be prosecuted, but pardoned people can never again be prosecuted for these same crimes. Completely and totally exonerated.
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Nelson_Mandela
11/26/19 7:05:23 PM
#160:


https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5ddd31a1e4b00149f724793b

Even more reason for the left to abandon the AA community
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red sox 777
11/26/19 7:06:47 PM
#161:


Corrik7 posted...
red sox 777 posted...
I would be interested in some polling that excises California, New York, and DC from the sample. It could be that the Democrats are only doing decently in the national polls at all because they are running up the numbers in these places even more than usual.
Well, if not for the African-American vote of Philadelphia, Republicans would carry PA every year. So, that's an important bastion for Dems.


I think what sets CA and NY apart is not so much that they are diverse places, but that the white vote in them is so strongly blue. And indeed - Manhattan and San Francisco are probably the two whitest densely populated cities in the country.
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Nelson_Mandela
11/26/19 7:23:21 PM
#162:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5ddd31a1e4b00149f724793b

Even more reason for the left to abandon the AA community

I kind of don't believe this though. Obama could just endorse Biden and end this race now.
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ChaosTonyV4
11/26/19 7:48:33 PM
#163:


From what I read, Obama privately asked Joe not to run, actually.

I think this is a case of Obama wanting to have his cake and eat it, basically.

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red sox 777
11/26/19 7:50:13 PM
#164:


Obama doesn't want Biden or Sanders to win? So.....he might as well just endorse Warren then.
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Jakyl25
11/26/19 7:50:42 PM
#165:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Obama wanting to have his cake and eat it, basically.


He must have been the guy who tweeted this
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEDChRbUwAAgIzY?format=jpg&name=medium
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LordoftheMorons
11/26/19 7:53:55 PM
#166:


red sox 777 posted...
Obama doesn't want Biden or Sanders to win? So.....he might as well just endorse Warren then.
Sounds less like he doesn't want Joe to win than that he's worried that Joe doesn't have what it takes to win. Biden winning the primary without Obama's help would presumably be evidence against that theory!

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Ashethan
11/26/19 7:58:04 PM
#167:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Sounds less like he doesn't want Joe to win than that he's worried that Joe doesn't have what it takes to win. Biden winning the primary without Obama's help would presumably be evidence against that theory!


Hillary won without Obama's help. Didn't do her much good, either.
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Xeybozn
11/26/19 8:00:18 PM
#168:


Obama probably figured that the primary would come down some non-Biden centrist pulling away from the field to challenge Biden and he could just endorse them. Sanders and Warren doing so well must be confusing to him.
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DoomTheGyarados
11/26/19 8:04:04 PM
#169:


Let's run another centrist what could go wrong

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Xeybozn
11/26/19 8:21:12 PM
#170:


Obama is a centrist. He won twice and probably would have beaten Trump too if he could have run again. The issue is that none of the centrists who are running this year have Obama-level charisma, which is what voters liked about Obama.
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DoomTheGyarados
11/26/19 8:22:51 PM
#171:


Xeybozn posted...
Obama is a centrist. He won twice and probably would have beaten Trump too if he could have run again. The issue is that none of the centrists who are running this year have Obama-level charisma, which is what voters liked about Obama.


Obama ran far more progressive in 2008 and crushed.

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xp1337
11/26/19 8:39:52 PM
#172:


I mean, 2008 was basically the ideal setting for any democrat.

-Economic crash under the Republican incumbent
-A party winning a 3rd consecutive term is... like... really hard.
-(Obama-specific) Rank S Charisma

Had Clinton won the 2008 primary she would have crushed too. It's actually an intriguing what-if alternate universe since presumably you could have had a Candidate Obama in 2016. (Clinton could well lose to Romney in 2012 assuming similar conditions to Obama's 2012)
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Leafeon13N
11/26/19 8:39:53 PM
#173:


Obama would literally just never lose.
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DoomTheGyarados
11/26/19 8:46:55 PM
#174:


Rank S charisma lol. So true

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Corrik7
11/26/19 8:52:04 PM
#175:


Damn Obama said he would intervene to speak out against Bernie if he was likely to win the nomination.

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LordoftheMorons
11/26/19 8:52:23 PM
#176:


xp1337 posted...
Had Clinton won the 2008 primary she would have crushed too. It's actually an intriguing what-if alternate universe since presumably you could have had a Candidate Obama in 2016. (Clinton could well lose to Romney in 2012 assuming similar conditions to Obama's 2012)
This probably is the better timeline! Even if Clinton does lose in alt 2012, Clinton-Romney-Obama is vastly preferable to Obama-Obama-Trump.

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Nelson_Mandela
11/26/19 9:03:10 PM
#177:


Corrik7 posted...
Damn Obama said he would intervene to speak out against Bernie if he was likely to win the nomination.

Does Corrik have me blocked
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HeroDelTiempo17
11/26/19 9:27:14 PM
#178:


LordoftheMorons posted...
This probably is the better timeline! Even if Clinton does lose in alt 2012, Clinton-Romney-Obama is vastly preferable to Obama-Obama-Trump.


But what if Obama repeals Romneycare

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Corrik7
11/26/19 9:48:36 PM
#179:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Does Corrik have me blocked
Nah

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Nelson_Mandela
11/26/19 9:56:38 PM
#180:


Does Corrik not click my links?!
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Corrik7
11/26/19 10:09:02 PM
#181:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Does Corrik not click my links?!
I usually don't read a lot of the posts in this topic cuz 95% of it is crying about Trump for dumb reasons.

Hell, I read people somewhere crying that Trump didn't know what centennial means because he signed a centennial coin for women's suffrage and said it should be done a long time ago. Lol. Dumb crying.

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Grimlyn
11/26/19 10:21:16 PM
#182:


hey and if Clinton won 2008 then Biden wouldn't get his "Obama's VP" bump either
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red sox 777
11/26/19 10:28:43 PM
#183:


LordoftheMorons posted...
xp1337 posted...
Had Clinton won the 2008 primary she would have crushed too. It's actually an intriguing what-if alternate universe since presumably you could have had a Candidate Obama in 2016. (Clinton could well lose to Romney in 2012 assuming similar conditions to Obama's 2012)
This probably is the better timeline! Even if Clinton does lose in alt 2012, Clinton-Romney-Obama is vastly preferable to Obama-Obama-Trump.


Obama > Clinton
Obama = Romney
Trump > Obama

So it looks like this timeline has 1 equal presidency and 2 unambiguously worse ones.
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LordoftheMorons
11/26/19 11:10:06 PM
#184:


Clinton > Obama > Biden >> Romney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump

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LordoftheMorons
11/27/19 12:04:05 AM
#185:


https://twitter.com/C_doc_911/status/1199492513201098754

???????

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Corrik7
11/27/19 12:10:02 AM
#186:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/C_doc_911/status/1199492513201098754

???????
Out of context obviously.

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LordoftheMorons
11/27/19 12:12:57 AM
#187:


I don't think that's obvious at all, but I don't want to search through a two hour rally to find it

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StealThisSheen
11/27/19 12:18:38 AM
#188:


Corrik7 posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/C_doc_911/status/1199492513201098754

???????
Out of context obviously.


Reports are saying he legit was talking about the 2016 election and said he beat Obama.
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Corrik7
11/27/19 12:20:51 AM
#189:


StealThisSheen posted...
Reports are saying he legit was talking about the 2016 election and said he beat Obama.
Talks about Obama's dynasty. Thus, Clinton was an extension to him of the dynasty.

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StealThisSheen
11/27/19 12:21:31 AM
#190:


Corrik7 posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Reports are saying he legit was talking about the 2016 election and said he beat Obama.
Talks about Obama's dynasty. Thus, Clinton was an extension to him of the dynasty.


No, can't be that, because he names Clinton separately before that.
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Corrik7
11/27/19 12:23:06 AM
#191:


StealThisSheen posted...
No, can't be that, because he names Clinton separately before that.
That doesn't disprove the point. In fact, possibly proves it.

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StealThisSheen
11/27/19 12:24:03 AM
#192:


He names "Clinton dynasty" and "Obama dynasty" as two separate things, saying he beat both.
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Corrik7
11/27/19 12:25:46 AM
#193:


Not even the first time he has said it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/trump-obama-
rally-hussein-dynasty-tupelo-mississippi-rally-impeachment-latest-a9181931.html

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StealThisSheen
11/27/19 12:26:17 AM
#194:


He's apparently done this before, too.

He says he beat the "Clinton dynasty," and then says "And then we beat Barrack Hussein Obama."

So he's saying he somehow beat Obama AFTER Clinton in some fashion.
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Corrik7
11/27/19 12:29:28 AM
#195:


Or maybe you are just almost 4 weeks after the fact bringing it up. Essentially he said that Obama only worked hard in office to try and stop Trump from winning the 2016 election. That the Obama Clinton whoever dynasty was toppled.

When he says Obama dynasty he is wrapping them all together as being a part of Obama.

He doesn't think he ran against Obama literally. He thinks he fought against Obama's scheme to deny him the presidency for Hillary (the extension of his dynasty).

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StealThisSheen
11/27/19 12:30:38 AM
#196:


You'll do mental gymnastics to defend literally anything he says, won't you
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Xeybozn
11/27/19 12:33:54 AM
#197:


Trump is and always has been the Republican Party, so he beat the "Clinton dynasty" in the 2000 election before beating the "Obama dynasty" in 2016. It's really simple, guys.
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Corrik7
11/27/19 12:35:06 AM
#198:


StealThisSheen posted...
You'll do mental gymnastics to defend literally anything he says, won't you
I just don't have the comprehension of a 3 year old. It is pretty clear what he means when you put the surrounding context. There is a reason almost all your gotchas are like small clips of someone saying something out of context.

This is exactly what I was talking about just however many posts ago. People crying about Trump just to cry about him. This is as ridiculous as the centennial crying.

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Not_an_Owl
11/27/19 12:35:54 AM
#199:


Xeybozn posted...
Trump is and always has been the Republican Party, so he beat the "Clinton dynasty" in the 2000 election before beating the "Obama dynasty" in 2016. It's really simple, guys.

In that his particular brand of demented racism and xenophobia have been the animus behind the GOP since Nixon, you are correct.
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MoogleKupo141
11/27/19 4:32:04 AM
#200:


StealThisSheen posted...
He's apparently done this before, too.

He says he beat the "Clinton dynasty," and then says "And then we beat Barrack Hussein Obama."

So he's saying he somehow beat Obama AFTER Clinton in some fashion.


lol did he really do the Barack HUSSEIN Obama shtick

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red13n
11/27/19 4:53:29 AM
#201:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
He's apparently done this before, too.

He says he beat the "Clinton dynasty," and then says "And then we beat Barrack Hussein Obama."

So he's saying he somehow beat Obama AFTER Clinton in some fashion.


lol did he really do the Barack HUSSEIN Obama shtick


it is in the twitter clip above.
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