Board 8 > Zelda plays Danganronpa Part 3 - Rise and Shine, Ursine

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MrSmartGuy posted...

Angie is Hina - hey, got one!

No he did not with this one. Shockingly, really.
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BTVA and IMDB name different people for Angie. Hm.

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Nobody knows who Angie's VA is. The speculation is that it's Cassandra Lee Morris because she liked a tweet where someone said they liked her performance as various characters including Angie, but that's the closest we've gotten to a confirmation as far as I know.
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Oh, weird, the first site I checked for that one said Cassandra Lee Morris did Angie's voice, but others are saying Marieve Herington. My bad.
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Oh, interesting. There is another character that I swear if you add Hina levels of pep too you won't be able to unhear it, but that could just be bias on my part after having looked them up on IMDB first.
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Ok, since there is some dispute on Angie, the other character she potentially shares with is Celestia.

Just tagging in case you want to guess anyway.
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Also, before you ask, the character Maki shares a VA with is from UDG, so youre probably not going to guess that one.
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Man I was pretty sure on the Hajime and Celestia ones. They have similar timbres.

A lot of the ones I got wrong were more wild guesses though. But hey, was not confident about Gonta at all and got it right.

And Fuyu's VA has a very characteristic timbre, so I managed to get it even though he's doing a different kind of character.

By the way, when the other guy talked about 2B's VA, I googled her name and found out she is Hiyoko. So you can cross that from the list. Really surprising one, I agree.

If Robot is not Hajime, then what about Shuichi? Was my first guess until I decided Robot sounded more like Hajime.

ZeldaTPLink posted...

If Robot is not Hajime, then what about Shuichi? Was my first guess until I decided Robot sounded more like Hajime.

No again. He does voice one of them, though, so keep guessing.
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Shuichi is increasing his death flag meter to extremely dangerous levels by continuing to be the one who interacts the most with Kaede as 3-1 gets closer to murder time. We know what that did to Sayaka and Imposter. This is the series' way to give proper screentime to a character who goes out too soon, and Shuichi is taking all of it.

His only saving grace is that they bothered to have Kaede's VA record her saying "Shuichi", so maybe they wouldn't want that to go to waste. But hey, a lot of stuff in this series is only said once.

How to survive a killing game: spot the person who never seems to give up, and avoid the fuck out of them until at least 10 people are dead. After than, stick close to them and do everything they say, no matter how crazy it sounds.

Kokichi crying is about the most pathetic thing I've seen in this series.

Hey, Monokuma, this isn't Future Arc! What do you mean, no class trial? Booooooooo!

But seriously, what is even the story point of tis, create another Junko scenario?

Kaito attacked Monokuma. Unbelievable. He had a strong death flag, but that's kind of a wasteful kill, unless they do repeat the Junko scenario.

What? The robot attacked... Monokuma.

This was very very random and I don't even know how to discern who got motivated by this.

Yes, Shuichi, go visit Kaede after the motive scene, that will certainly improve your lipespan. Also keep having a generic personality in the meantime.

Himiko wants us to save her from what looks like lesbian sexual harassment and I wish I could help.

Ooooooh secret bookshelf passage.

We found the mastermind room already, it seems. Someone get Gonta to break it. Iirc they haven't banned us from breaking into rooms yet.

Announcement with just... Monodam?

Monokuma is still alive in the theater, I guess.

Man I really want to know the story of how Ryoma took down the mafia.

Monokuma returns as a ghost. I approve.

Tsumugi is disgusted by the low quality of the cosplay, and Kiyo by the fact he is mistaking hosts for yokais. Gotta focus on what's important.

The Monokubs have no spares, and the rules don't forbid us from killing them. Someone tell me why we haven't started murdering them yet.

Everyone will die if there is not a murder. This series wth the forced motives again. Have I mentioned I hate this stuff? I hate this stuff.

"Males in human sciences are soft". Damn, Tenko, just STFU.

Miu is another chracter who is ageing like milk. She is becoming another Hiyoko except Kokichi does that job better anyway.

Ryoma's imaginary knife holding image is a thing of nightmares.

You've never seen team spirit break this fast in a DR game before. Where is Nekomaru when we need them? Oh yeah, he's an evil bear now. We're fucked.

I don't even know how the game can have a Free Time now. The mood is just horrible.

Rantaro knows shit. And in that fake prologue, he knew even more shit. I think they deleted his talent because the very nature of it contains spoilers about the setting they don't want him to know. He mentioned Ultimate Hunt. Maybe he's the Ultimate Killer of Ultimates, or something?

Oooh we're gonna try to find out who the mastermind is. In chapter 1. Wonder how this will backfire.

Oh so there is a free time. Okay. Will play it later.

Guesses:

Mikan is Monophagie
Teruteru is Kiyo

ZeldaTPLink posted...

Mikan is Monophagie
Teruteru is Kiyo

nope to the first
correct for the second
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Monophanie's is super easy, and you're probably overthinking it.
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Could go with Monophanie = Monomi but they don't sound the same imo.

Maybe not that easy.
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I love how this topic has turned into a VA guessing game.

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ZeldaTPLink posted...

Himiko wants us to save her from what looks like lesbian sexual harassment and I wish I could help.

Same.
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Free time.

Before then, here comes my favorite part of this franchise (not). Betting monocoins on a dumb slot machine.

Well, it seems the animation between each present is getting shorter each game, so that's a relief.

Free time. I spend some with Tsumugi. I have no idea what happened, but it was funny.

Gonta next. To learn some Gonta facts. Such as how Gonta likes cricket music and sleeps naked. Except not anymore, because Gonta wants to be a gentleman. We all sympathize with Gonta.

I feel like at some point Gonta will do something so heroic he'll just be hailed as a gentleman because of that.

I'm still torn on how much I like the Monokubs exactly, but I really like how every day/night announcement is different than the previous one. The previous games were pretty lazy with those.

Someone is at the door, and it seems it's not Shuichi. Did someone finally come to share the death flag with him?

Nope, it's just Monokuma.

I just noticed something. Every room as monitors, usual. But I've seen no mention of the cameras. The bad guys are watching everything, right? But the kids don't know it. This is why Shuichi's plan will backfire.

I like how real Ryoma is about the darkness of the setting yet he doesn't seem to have any malice himself.

I think maybe Rantaro didn't actually forget his talent and he's hiding it for some reason.

For a moment I thought Kaede was about to slap Miu, but she begged instead. Well, that's the Ultimate Hope for ya.

"Who the hell uses bowing as a threat?" Shounen protagonists. Get used to it.

lol at Miu not knowing how to react to kindness. This scene might have saved her character, I think it's going somewhere interesting now.

I ust watched an argument between a boring character, an annoying one and a godawful one (Himiko, Angie and Tenko). This cast has some gems, but it does have some turds too. Unless they start developing.

Is it just me or gifts are much harder to give than in previous game? It seems those kids will only take talent-specific gifts.

Free time with Kirumi. We don't make friends at all because she can't break the maid character. Wonder why she's like that.

Free time with Shuichi. Gotta learn something about him before he inevitably... you know. This was actually very informative. Seems like Shuichi is a realistic type of detective instead of a crime solving one like Kyoko. He investigates infidelity and runaways, as part of his uncle's agency. I'm curious about the one case that made him famous.

Last night before the deadline. Chances of dead people next morning are very high.

Hmm... Monophanie is Sonia?

Shuichi doesn't answer the door. RIP.

Nope, he's alive. Phew. Its like the game is doing it on purpose.

Angie is better than Hiro because Angie is so positive all the time. I don't know what I think of her. Like, I tend to rteally dislike religious fanatics, but her mood is contagious.

Yes, Shuichi, separate yourself from Kaede in the last day before the deadline.

Kokichi is another one I can't decide on. He's a really big asshole, but he is so serious about his evilness it crosses the line and makes him interesting again.

Ryoma is doing the Nagito thing. In the non-psychotic way. He might actually convince people. It's cold and rational, eve if it's the Despair option.

Rantaro has a secret plan. Damn. This is the most interesting Chapter 1 in the series so far. So many twists.

Tsumugi is shipping Shuichi and Miu. I can relate.

Shuichi did not get murdered in the way to the classroom. Meh, we had a few possible alibis.

Air vent. Door that can see who goes to the basement. Cameras with specific instructions. The perfect murder case is being set as we speak.

3-1 is so good
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Kaede is anxious because of the camera plan. I'm anxious because I just wanna see who's gonna die.

Shuichi has a tragic story. He found one of the dark things about solving mysteries: the result is not always pleasant. Kyoko knew that.

Kaede is awesome.

Everyone went to the basement. Of course.

"No! You stay here and keep watch, Kaede." Famous last words.

Damn bro stop going back and ruining my death predictions.

Tenko and Kaito are invited to join us in the library. Because we need at least 3 people for a body discovery announcement. Welp, I guess I was wrong about Shuichi dieing.

Rantaro is dead.

Shenanigans are at play. The dude was seriously involved with the plot. Either this is a fake out, or the game will have to find a way to connect him with the plot later. If he is really dead, I'm disappointed because he looked really cool.

Also add another blunt weapon kill to DR series, because every kill must either be a blunt weapon or a stabbing.

Hmm, seems like Kokichi had something for Rantaro.

No one is admiting the kill. Of course, there had to be a twist.

What if Rantaro killed himself? That might create a paradox, since he doesn't get to go out free.

Monokuma comes here to give a present.

Everyone! IT'S. THE. MONOKUUUUMA FIIIIIIIIIILE!

He didn't say it? Stop killing traditions, V3, danmit!

Investigation time.

Seems like I got played like a fiddle. Shuichi dieng was getting so damn obvious this is probably intentional by the writers.

Yep, Monophanie is Sonia.
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Killing the unknown ability person at the start definitely caught me by surprise.
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rantaro prob most promising character ever to die in the first 3 cases
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Kids are thinking the culprit is the mastermind so that's why they didn't step forward. Because they want to kill everyone in the trial. Except in Danganronpa, the mastermind's goal is never just to kill everyone quickly. It's always something more sophisticated.

Miu built a fucking drone so she can slack off in the rest of the investigation. Priorities.

Kaito picked the six people he thought would do well in a fight. The tarzan, the aikido master, the girl with a god behind her, the witch, the guy with a a plan and... the child carer who is kind of mean.

I wonder why he didn't invite the guy who took down an entire mafia with tennis balls, though. I think he would be one of my top picks.

"So Gonta in here alone, watching bug movie!" Protect him.

"Magic shouldn't be used like that. It will lead to corruption." Best excuse ever.

Kaito is like Kazuichi done right.

lol at UDG being an actual videogame in this universe.

Lots of work checking who has alibis. But alibis are never important in DR Land, except to make killers perform extra steps that end up inciminating them in the trial.

Well, th alibis are not important, but I guess the VA room is.

Yay for the game saying "Tenko didn't say anything new" so we don't have to read any Tenko dialogue.

I swear, I'm considering doing a master character list of this series after I'm done with it, and Tenko is a strong candidate for dead last. Right now, she is worse than anyone in DR2 or DR3, and I think only GJ-less Toko compares. And Toko still has a whole game I haven't played where she can develop.

Never mind, there was some Tenko dialogue to listen to. Meh.

Kokichi is like a bargain bin Byakuya.

I love how "I'll commit that to my memory bank" is a line someone bothered to dub.

Suddenly about 2/3 of the cast has alibis and I'm thinking my line about alibis is outdated. I'm also thinking the killer is a dumbass for doing this during daylight, when people are more likely to have alibis.

Keebo: "You don't need to be so PC". lol, ok.

I just learned that "cospox" is thing. I don't know what to do with that piece of information. In another news, I'm starting to see why people said here they like Tsumugi.

Rantaro turned off the one sensor who could have indeitified his killer. Of course.

Also this has turned into one complicated closed room murder. It seems neither door was used to get in, and Kaede was watching the entrance to the air vent the whole time, except for when she ran straight into the library to find the body. Complicated.

I'm smelling suicide. Though thay would be a bit off in a Chapter 1. I want executions and all.

The monokuma statue sinks and a secret door goes up. This is so zelda.

Monokid's honey hangvoer saga is... huh... intriguing.

You can actually buy skills right before trials. Such a revolutionary innovation in gameplay that DR2 did not bother to have.

Just reading your recap and thoughts, I have this song going through my head...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ9ykyTlWGc
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Yes, show me a cover with Rantaro in it to make me more paranoid about his role in this story.

That thumbnail is just a picture and nothing more, to be 100% honest.
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It really is, for once. Just make sure you don't click the link to go to the Youtube page for it because, as was mentioned before and I will continue to drive home, DR fans are the worst at keeping spoilers off the interwebs.
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That video actually doesn't have any comments on it, amusingly enough
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"Effective during Hangman's Gambit Ver 3.0".

"Hangman's Gambit".

"Ver 3.0"

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/976/824/913.gif

I can't stop rewatching this opening. It took me a few rewatches to notice everybody gets a shadow with purple eyes, not just Rantaro. Another cool thing is how at the end, Rantaro is the only one whose body appears to be flickering. Finally, what's up with the meteors? Another Tragedy, or an execution? This open does show a lot less footage than DR2's, and I liked DR2 because it went slowly with showing the characters and seemed to get more epic as it went on, but this one is so stylish and has a very good song.

It seems this game simply does not recognize the right stick in my dual shock and I have to use the mouse just to read the truth bullets.

I just huh... learned something about Himiki's ear cleaning habits. Thanks, Himiko.

I love how the very first truth bullet shot in this game is to exclude the possibility of Rataro being another Junko.

"Kaidiot and Poo-ichi". lol. It's like Miu really wants to be a bitch but he deosn't have it in her.

Eh... what are the monokubs making a reference to when they talk about someone who died after soaring with the wind? Is it from a previous game?

Kokichi says he knows who the killer is and I think he's about to accuse Keebo just for the lulz, but he actually has a great point about Miu being the suspect. The Byakuya part is being stronger than the bargain bin part right now.

Kaito has Kazuichi faces. My analysis was right. He is Kazuichi done better.

The triple debate thing is really cool, but has the potential to be really hard later on.

Gonta is the easiest suspect by default because his superhuman strength can overcome a lot of case hurdles. Except that is too easy.

Kokichi: "Just be the culprit already". lol true.

Guesses

Monotaro is Hifumi
Miu is Akane
Tsumugi is Monomi
Kaito is Taka

nope
ayyyy you finally got the easiest one lol
Tsumugi's is kinda tough, she is not Monomi.
I can't help but spoil this one because you keep saying it, but Kaito is Kazuichi in more ways than character....
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MrSmartGuy posted...

Kaito is Kazuichi in more ways than character....

They don't really sound alike imo. But hey, that's quality VA for you.

That's the problem with the guessing game, most VAs are too good to be easily guessed like that.

Tsumugi could be Sakura or Kyoko for all I know and I'd never notice.

Just let me say there's probably a reason you don't recognize Tsumugi's voice, since it's not all that different from the other character.

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I just defeated Atua in an argument. Where is your god now?

Rebuttal Showdown seems a bit easier now, like you can actually see if the blade will hit or not.

Kaede you got swag, but nothing compares to Hajime saying "Allow me to cut those words!"

Shuichi noticed something. Spit it out!

They don't do the thing where the main character is executed when there is a game over. Another tradition killed, but that was a really dumb one anyway.

There is also a "make prepatations and retry" button which is a godsend. Yay for anti-frustration gameplay!

Miu may have just solved the case. The camera had intervals. But then it would have to be someone who has messed with the cameras before, Like... Shuichi?

I keep insisting on him, but I also keep looking at the game from now on and I can't think that is interesting for Shuichi to hang out with Kaede all game. The reason Kyoko worked was that she avoided Makoto, meanwhile Chiaki wasn't exactly glued to Hajime, and Nagito only was during the first chapter. The protagonist needs some space to sneak around and interact with people. What I'm saying is that I smell some twist with Shuichi coming.

Bingo, she told Shuichi about it and he's not saying anything.

Eh... but now he's going to turn into the case's obvious suspect. I guess he's not the killer, then. But Kaede may feel betrayed by Shuichi and that will solve the problem I highlighted above, as least for a while.

I cannot abide all this Tenko hate

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I'm cool with it.
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Wasnt a fan of Tenko. I think its deserved
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I just don't see any appeal on a character whose lines are 75% "ALL MALES ARE MURDERERS AND DESERVE TO DIE".

I mean, I'm a big sympathizer of feminism, but this is just permanent cringe.

It's ironic because Mahiru is what the character would be like if they had done her right. So they somehow made an already existing concept worse.

Never mind the creepy stuff with Himiko too, and the fact she is just an Akane knock-off when you remove all the bad stuff.

For all Kiyo looks like a creepy loony, he is actually pretty reasonable.

In fact, I'm getting this reaction from almost the whole class. Most of them are smart enough. Probably more than the previous casts.

Damn Kokichi's evil grin is really cool.

There is a lie mechanic? Cool. Bet they could never have implemented that in DR1, with Makoto being the MC. DR2 maybe. Reminds me of Phoenix Wright.

I wonder if people won't start mistrusting Kaede if she just starts lieing every trial, though.

Kokichi lie detector is OP.

Debate scrums. This game has some interesting new mechanics. The only issue is that I've had to figure out how the Xbox buttons flashing in the screen matched to my dual schock buttons, but I pulled it through.

So the twist is that Shuichi already did the Kyoko thing and solved the case, but hes too afraid to speak it because of his traumas about comdemning semi-innocent people.

Kade says she has known who the culprit is for a long time. Myself, I'm still puzzled. The stuff about setting up flashes suggests Miu, but doesn't Miu have an alibi?

I tried to guess Miu, then Shuichi then Rantaro. No deal. Then I kept trying to think, but everyone either had an alibi or no evidence pointing to them. Then I wildly guessed Kaede. It worked. Eh... what?

WTF is going on

Kaede is laughing. Eh... am I playing with an evil character?

Split personality, maybe?

Or Kaede will get executed and we'll play with Shuichi for the rest of the game?

TPLink.exe has crashed and needs to be rebooted.

it's coming
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Agatha Christie spoilers:

This is Murder of Roger Ackroyd all over again, isn't it?

ZeldaTPLink posted...

Eh... what are the monokubs making a reference to when they talk about someone who died after soaring with the wind? Is it from a previous game?

No, it's a reference to something completely unrelated to DR for basically no reason.
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it's from a joss whedon work, i think?
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I'm playing as Shuichi now. Against Kaede. This is unprecedented.

Kaede threw the ball into the air vent, so it slid over the books she set up to fall onto Rantaro's head, who was there because of the flash she set up. I'm amazed at myself for even figuring this out.

This is arguably the best Hangman's Gambit so far, but it still sucks because it's fucking Hangaman's Gambit.

The stacked book set up looks a bit over convoluted, like you'd have to be sure the ball would turn left once it got out of the vent, then stop and fall on Rantaro's head. And that Rantaro wouldn't hear any of that.

Ok the illustrations make it look a bit more possible, but I still feel like this would be harder to set up in practice than it looks. Not to mention it would take like an hour to be done properly. Meh.

I'll never be able to play DR properly again. I'll be doubting everything the progatonist is seeing because they could be skipping scenes.

Oh it's the damn BGM that was covering the noise. Of course. Though that does create a plot hole because Kaede didn't know there was going to be the BGM when we was setting up the books for the kill.

Now this cast will have to recover from the fact they executed the Ultimate Hope right in Chapter 1. Damn.

Even Kokichi is disturbed by it.

Shuichi is doubting Kaede's motive. We all are.

I guess the tried to take down the mastermind? Hmm... what if Rantaro thought he was the mastermind himself because of the lost memory, and set up a plot for Kaede to kill him? Besides that, I could see Rantaro being onto the plan in some other way.

Kaede is now a boss battle. Because.

This was the normal rhythm thing, but my heart was racing the whole time because it was Kaede I was trying to take down. Danmit.

Godanhmit this is even sadder than the Chiaki execution. Both versions of it.

STOP KILLING MY BEST GIRLS, DANGANRONPA!

The case review thing gets better every game. It's simpler and move user friendly, while still keeping the awesome. And the new song is a remix of DR2's opening, which is great.

I once wished I could play as the Ultimate Detective. Be careful what you wish for.

Oh cool we get to vote manually this time. Wonder if the plot won't use that creatively later on (as in, vote for someone innocent to crack the game or something).

Damn Kokichi is savage. Even I believed he was legit sad now. Will he ever get character development?

So either there is no mastermind and we ahve a different twist (like in DR2), or it's Rantaro (unlikely because repeating the Junko twist would be lame), or the bears are fully automated and the mastermind is just playing a much more subtle game, that includes predicting Kaede would out herself.

This execution was savage. Also, WTF Monodam? Is he going to murder all the cubs or something?

Rantaro had a hunch. It was probably the Ultimate Hunt thing. I guess whoever is behind Monokuma had a grudge against ultimates? Maybe they were forced to watch Future Arc.

Monokuma thinks Kokichi will live for a long while. If he dies soon, I'll lol. I won't mind if he does live though, he is a huge asshole but he is a good character.

Kaito punching Shuichi reminds me Kamina. Though the real Kamina of this game was Kaede.

I was right that Shuichi and Kaede being a pair all game would be difficult. So I predicted Shuichi would die. The solution was much more interesting. And sad.

If the game manages to keep this beat (which will be very hard, I know), it will be the best game in the series by a mile.

Correct, it's from a Joss Whedon work
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ZeldaTPLink posted...

Agatha Christie spoilers:

This is Murder of Roger Ackroyd all over again, isn't it?

Thats one of my favorite Christie mysteries
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But it's kind of lame that this series seemed like it would finally have a female main (besides UDG but that doesn't count) and then it was a fake out. Kaede and Shuichi could have been made with swapped genders, for example. This thing with the Japanese where they are afraid of putting females in lead roles gets annoying some times. Westerners are way far ahead in that sense.

ZeldaTPLink posted...

If the game manages to keep this beat (which will be very hard, I know), it will be the best game in the series by a mile.

All I'll say is that 3-1 is not definitively the best case in its own game like 4-1 in Ace Attorney is.
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Final guesses for the dead characters' VAs?

Alternatively, we can just put an end to the whole thing if you'd prefer.
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