Board 8 > Ranking the characters of Fire Emblem Fates

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MegamanX
11/22/19 7:32:49 PM
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Over the past 11 months I've been slowly chipping away at Fire Emblem Fates (All 3 Versions) and I wanted to do a ranking of the characters that graced my 3DS screen for 100+ hours. Some of these characters I met once, others I've met 3 times and have married off to three different husbandos or waifus....so I've spent a lot of time with a majority of these characters.

There are 68 characters I'll be ranking here
-By my personal likeability of the character
-By Design
-By usefulness for me (I know almost all characters can get broken especially with the Dread fighter and Dark Falcon classes)

I've listed them in this spoiler tag, I've left out the most nothing of nothing characters. And all the smash version guest characters (like its not Lucina from awakening its Lucina...from...smash?). Also randomized the below list so I don't accidentally list preference.
Effie
Ophelia
Kaze
Felicia
Rinkah
Azama
Nina
Sophie
Hayato
Leo
Mitama
Kana
Ryoma
Hisame
Asugi
Charlotte
Flora
Yukimura
Dwyer
Percy
Ignatius
Forrest
Benny
Arthur
Mozu
Kagero
Kiragi
Setsuna
Sakura
Niles
Odin
Hinata
Fuga
Peri
Silas
Gunter
Azura
Subaki
Soleil
Beruka
Shura
Saizo
Selena
Laslow
Scarlet
Nyx
Reina
Caeldori
Takumi
Xander
Rhajat
Shiro
Siegbert
Camilla
Corrin
Velouria
Oboro
Izana
Elise
Orochi
Jakob
Hinoka
Shigure
Hana
Keaton
Selkie
Kaden
Midori

The Game Part
I figured why not let users who want to play along guess my top 25 characters from this lot. You get a point if they are in the top 25, and you get 5 points if you guess CharacterX would be in 24th
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Logicblade
11/22/19 8:31:45 PM
#2:


1. Sakura

(ok not actually, but I'm just hoping she ranks high)
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11/22/19 10:54:19 PM
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ew fates
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SantaRPidgey
11/23/19 1:21:24 AM
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Fates has crawled onto the top of my favorite games list like a shitty turtle in an allegory story about persistence. Despite this, I really think almost none of the characters are even kind of good.

Good characters off the top of my head in no order:

Zola (zola for cyl4)
Felicia
Midori
Benny (Benny is such a great character, that other characters get better in their support with him)
uhh
Male Kana
Velouria
Izana

It's actually not a bad list but considering there are some of the worst written characters in fiction like Corrin, Xander, Iago, Perri and Muk the pokemon but he's actually King Garon but he's actually a dragon all together in the same game. And characters like Azura, who is so characterless I literally forgot she was in the game until I looked at your list.
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Bossman_Coolguy
11/23/19 1:55:59 AM
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MY ACHING BLOOD caps

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Kenri
11/23/19 10:33:38 AM
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SantaRPidgey posted...
Despite this, I really think almost none of the characters are even kind of good.
Agreed (and agreed about Benny, Izana, and Felicia being some of the few good ones).

Predicting Peri for last place tho

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SantaRPidgey
11/23/19 10:44:21 AM
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I really don't think there can be a better contender for last place than Corrin herself. I genuinely don't think there has ever been a worse character. It's almost a feat to manage to be both boring and outrageously poorly written. Her character traits are "loves her family" and "prefers to not murder people when conveinent"

Also as a side note, she is completely overdesigned as a barefoot mummy dragon and I love it. The weird mouth that comes out of her arm that shoots fire? God damn that is totally my type of stupid.
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Zylothewolf
11/23/19 11:53:13 AM
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1: Niles

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Alanna82
11/23/19 11:55:22 AM
#9:


I like Benny too.

I also like Elise, Orochi, Forrest and Beruka. And Kaden, he looks so fluffy. Kitsunes are cool.

yeah, Peri for last place. She is so badly written.
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11/23/19 11:56:34 AM
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Mac Arrowny
11/23/19 12:04:58 PM
#11:


Are you ranking male and female Kana separately? I liked female Kana a lot more, while male Kana is trash.

I actually did a ranking of my own a while ago, if you're curious to check it out: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u0E0LydweThaiiK4F0eKDutkvfKo5icrYrxbNoo02Fc/edit?usp=sharing
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Mewtwo59
11/23/19 12:41:56 PM
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That certainly is a list.
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MegamanX
11/23/19 12:56:02 PM
#13:


Mac Arrowny posted...
Are you ranking male and female Kana separately? I liked female Kana a lot more, while male Kana is trash.

I actually did a ranking of my own a while ago, if you're curious to check it out: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u0E0LydweThaiiK4F0eKDutkvfKo5icrYrxbNoo02Fc/edit?usp=sharing


I will look after guaranteed

I'm gonna rank them as one
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SantaRPidgey
11/23/19 3:17:39 PM
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Kana m is better than kana f by miles if only for kana m's voice crack with "thIS ends now!"

Kana's personality fits male better imo. Kana is stunted in a lot of ways that become more clear with him as a doting boy.
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MegamanX
11/25/19 4:20:45 PM
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Bump, this topic was posted purposefully before finishing revelations so I can well finish the last few chapters.

As for Kana I didn't really see a lot of difference between the two.

As for Corrin, gender really didn't matter here. But Birthright, Conquest, and Revelations Corrin are different enough. I'll say this, Conquest Corrin is just painful
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MegamanX
11/28/19 2:27:39 AM
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Hoping to start this first week of december depends though
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MegamanX
12/05/19 5:23:25 AM
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I accidentally married Keaton and peri in revelations. It might be the most evil pairing ever

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MegamanX
12/07/19 10:27:05 PM
#18:


68th Azama

This is a great barometer of how much I actually hate this character. When I played the Fates games and Awakening I essentially randomized partners instead of playing matchmaker. I let myself veto any dialogue that was looking to turn into absolute tragedy, no chemistry written, or one character feeling like they were trapped in this fictional relationship that would spawn an army unit. I think I vetoed 8 relationships with this guy as he just makes everyone miserable.

We have plenty of edgelords in these games with soft hearts but he actively seeks the best way to make everyone miserable. He literally turns one of his own enjoyments into a hatred just to spite someone. He's constantly described as a carefree monk but it really is just more of the asshole monk. I've put up with annoying twins, mascot characters, and many other awful rpg characters. I still think this jackass would be at the top of worst characters.

Like: F
Design: D, While his staff is cool you knew before this guy spoke that he'd be a raving jackass
Usefulness: C, for some reason hes the one mage/healer character that doesn't die a lot. He has an extremely deadly counter as well.

Fun trivia from the wiki: He is the only monk unit in the game


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xp1337
12/07/19 10:31:24 PM
#19:


Azama would probably be near the bottom for me too. Never liked him.

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SantaRPidgey
12/07/19 10:37:53 PM
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I don't hate Azama, he's a true nihilist, and basically only gets painted as an asshole because the characters he support with don't understand what "nihilist" means. If anything they could have made him more of an actual asshole to be funny.

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Kenri
12/07/19 11:23:59 PM
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Azama's whatever to me. In a better game, his shtick would have some greater purpose to it, but in Fates it's just a wacky anime trait. But at least the humor of it lands, on occasion.

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MegamanX
12/08/19 4:44:01 AM
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67th Peri

Where do I begin here? I've seen Peri compared to Harley Quinn but thats insulting to that character. Peri is a psychopath who was chosen as a retainer based purely on her fighting skill, they don't do psych evals in Nohr. Her backstory gives meaning to her sociopath personalty but it's not a reason I want to like her, more like commit her to a fire emblem insane asylum or more likely just put her down seeing that'd be the more world appropriate answer.

I literally married her off to the worst character I could find still unmarried and the entire thing ended up being about mass murder is good, who needs reasons. The Wiki shows if she marries Odin or Laslow a string of missing person cases stop as her and her husbando both vanish. I can't tell if that implies they were both doing it or the husbando just killed her (especially as laslows conversation with her implies she needs to stop).

From a story perspective I didn't care what her outcome was, I understand if shes useful for war and not killing your own troops just...servants then sure use her. But this is the dark answer of kill her post war, she's a danger to peace. Although was a pretty bad unit in battle from my history with her, letting me down in both Conquest and Revelations.

I can't not link this paragraph from the wiki that sums up her usefulness as a tool for war and thats it
"Despite the servant being executed by her father, Peri still thought that any servant in her house was her mother's murderer, and took to murdering servants using mistakes as excuses. Even though her father was aware of this, he never said anything or got any help for his vengeful daughter, and she eventually left when the numbers began dwindling."

Like: F
Design: F
Usefulness: F

Fun trivia from the wiki: She has two differently colored eyes

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Panthera
12/08/19 4:48:43 AM
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Azama gets a pass from me because I mostly hate the Fates cast and he seems to feel the same way I do

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cyko
12/08/19 10:10:48 AM
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Camilla number one.

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SantaRPidgey
12/08/19 1:17:08 PM
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I mean Peri is a terrible character, but as far as usefulness, having a strong paladin that you don't care if she gets killed or not is pretty damn useful. Id give her a solid C+

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Alanna82
12/08/19 1:28:21 PM
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I kind of like Azama. Peri is so badly written though.

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MegamanX
12/08/19 3:43:31 PM
#27:


66th Yukimura

There isn't much to say about this guy. He's more of a hidden recruit guy, I never used him as I was extremely bored by him when we interacted in story. I'm not a fan of the puppeteer class and his role in the overall story is a shrug. He has no support except Corrin and even that is boring. It was a chance to have someone loyal to Hoshida that wasn't a retainer or royal family but they really just needed a fort boss for Conquest.

Like: F
Design: F
Usefulness: F

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SantaRPidgey
12/08/19 4:40:14 PM
#28:


How are we at colorless bland people already. How can you not have more vile for more of the cast.

Dear lord how high up on the list is corrin?

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MegamanX
12/08/19 4:46:44 PM
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I personally group in bland/vile people together. Also compared to awakening this cast is pretty bad so Corrin benefits from that

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Alanna82
12/08/19 8:28:20 PM
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I totally forgot Yukimura existed.

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MegamanX
12/11/19 1:15:26 AM
#31:


65th Setsuna

Setsuna is a character that just doesn't work. For me the big thing is there's nothing to her character. The joke is Hinoakas retainers are just kinda useless and she has to look out for them. Well Setsuna is perfect in that regard, shes really useless. I'm not a fan of any of the characters that look like maids in this game, and she fits that build. Setsuna is essentially a klutz and extremely oblivious. She is a pretty terrible archer, has very little emotion or any kind of situational awareness either. I really don't have a lot of positive things to say here except her hair colors nice?

Like: F
Design: F
Usefulness: F

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Kenri
12/11/19 1:37:18 AM
#32:


Setsuna's pretty bad but she gets points from me for treating Fates with exactly the level of boredom and phoning it in that it deserves.

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MawiIe
12/11/19 2:19:09 AM
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Setsuna grew on me with every plathrough. I like her voice acting in battle. Her supports and dialogue is garbage but I do really like the way she thanks people so sincerely for anything they say about her. PLUS Fire Emblem Heroes got me to laugh at a Setsuna in a trap joke once!

I would probably put her in my top twenty fates characters sadly

yes I will be commenting on every single character you rank

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MegamanX
12/11/19 2:38:05 AM
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I'm reading every comment, and welcome comments and disagreements/agreements!

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Cybat
12/11/19 12:33:03 PM
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I get not liking Azama but I found him funny. And I reclassed him to Apothecary and he was my strongest unit for a while. (Literally, he had the highest Strength of any of my units). It was pretty hilarious.

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Alanna82
12/11/19 1:42:21 PM
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I kind of like Setsuna. The character I really dislike that everyone seems to like is Arthur.

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mnkboy907
12/11/19 2:00:23 PM
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I wanna say I remember my Setsuna being pretty good in battle, so I must've just gotten lucky on stat growths. I overall liked her.

Also Azama is great and hilarious. Him and Jakob would be up near the top of my rankings.

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Alanna82
12/11/19 2:46:26 PM
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oh yeah, I dislike Soileil(however you spell her name, Lazlow's daughter) too. Though that is just because of how the american version butchered her character.

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McMoogle
12/11/19 3:20:09 PM
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How did I dump over 300 hours into this game and remember practically none of the characters? I remember liking only four or five characters and I couldn't even tell you their names. I'm pretty sure this is more a testament to how awful everyone is more than me being forgetful. Jesus.

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Mac Arrowny
12/11/19 3:27:13 PM
#40:


Alanna82 posted...
oh yeah, I dislike Soileil(however you spell her name, Lazlow's daughter) too. Though that is just because of how the american version butchered her character.


What? The American version greatly improved her character! She's a lot less interesting in Japanese. I like American Soleil a lot.
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Kenri
12/11/19 7:07:08 PM
#41:


Alanna82 posted...
The character I really dislike that everyone seems to like is Arthur.
Arthur might legitimately be a bottom 10 character for the whole series. And his son is even worse!

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xp1337
12/11/19 7:12:40 PM
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Setsuna is "whatever" but I feel like Fates has several tiers of "whatever" and she's in one of the better ones.

that sentence shouldn't make sense but in the context of fates i feel like there's a chance

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MawiIe
12/11/19 10:19:23 PM
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I mean before we get to inoffensive but poor characters like Arthur and Setsuna let's talk about Corrin, who reads like a fanfiction self insert from a sociopath. Her defining characteristic is "she doesn't like to kill people" she's inconsistent and the story has to bend around her poorly written choices and actions. Other self inserts actually give Merit to their characters to give the entire cast an excuse to like them (Chris was raised to be a man of character by his grandpa, Robin was a master tactician, Byleth is god ) but Corrin has the characters throwing themselves at her feet simpl because she exists.

Then we have Iago, who has the motivations of "be a bad person" sometimes he's being manipulated by Garon, sometimes he's manipulating Garon, he doesn't really ever show what his motivations are, he has no ambitions, he's just a guy who stands next to Garon and goes "heyy evil king you ever consider murder?"

Garon himself is another weird inconsistent character. Is he a monster? Is he Corrupted old Garon? Why is he a dragon sometimes but muk other times? Does he have his own will? Sometimes he shows compassion for his children when it moves the plot along. Nothing about him makes any sense.

Basically all the fates royals are at the bottom too. Xander trusts corrin unless he doesn't and straight up doesn't let murdering his family slow him down. Leo kills Zola (Zola for CYL4) for nearly ending the war bloodlessly. Hinoka never says anything or does anything. Azura stands there the entire plot so she can sing whenever the plot needs a deus ex machina.

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Mewtwo59
12/11/19 11:50:27 PM
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FE4 Arthur best FE Arthur.

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Kenri
12/11/19 11:59:31 PM
#45:


MawiIe posted...
Leo kills Zola (Zola for CYL4) for nearly ending the war bloodlessly.
Yeah this is a really bizarre moment all around.

Maybe we're supposed to implicitly know that being taken prisoner by Nohr is a death sentence.

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MawiIe
12/12/19 12:17:04 AM
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I mean it's definitely implied but Zola leaves Izama alive which makes him the least murder-crazy person in all Nohr save maybe Elise.

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MegamanX
12/16/19 4:11:32 PM
#47:


64th Reina

Reinas big issues revolve around her only being built to converse with Corrin. These characters end up having the least amount of character and are genuinely pretty bland. But it gets worse, shes also a one note blood thirsty knight. She was a noble that fell in love with the idea of killing and joined the Hoshidan army. She just feels incomplete, not likable, and extremely forgettable.

Like: F
Design: C
Usefulness: F

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Kenri
12/16/19 4:52:17 PM
#48:


Reina was definitely a waste of a cool character design.

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MegamanX
12/19/19 4:48:27 AM
#49:


63rd Flora

Flora is Felicias twin, her deal is King Garon of Nohr kidnapped them both to be servants and retainers to Corrin as leverage to keep the Ice tribe in line. Shes better at cooking than her sister, while her sisters better at fighting. Here's the problem, she joins in 2/3 routes and is a single conversation character. Her dialog when you go up against her is brief, lacks real substance and in the routes she can be killed on you feel nothing. She has a somewhat nice design...just not in this game. Flora definitely gets tagged in the section marked 'half finished'

Like: F
Design: D
Usefulness: F

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xp1337
12/19/19 7:42:43 AM
#50:


Think I'll come in with my first strong disagree with Flora here.

While she is definitely let down by the writing in Fates that's more a case of "who isn't?" What is there is I think some of the closest the game actually comes to interesting backstory and consequences with the Ice Tribe backstory, political hostages, and Flora being the one who understands the situation and harbors resentment over it the whole time.

She definitely would have benefited from a more expanded role, whether it be more scenes or simply just more support conversations but with what's there I'm taking her over most of the Fates cast.

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