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DevsBro
11/19/19 6:17:35 PM
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Especially the way they reversed the face buttons and then standardized all the everything with wrong buttons.

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deupd_u
11/19/19 6:18:52 PM
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wat
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DirkDiggles
11/19/19 6:19:18 PM
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MrMallard
11/19/19 6:19:29 PM
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Do you hate backwards compatibility, game subscriptions that are second to none in their field and built-in headphone jacks to allow for a lower barrier of entry to the console's party chat functionality?
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Feline_Heart
11/19/19 6:19:36 PM
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Not having the sticks side by side is dumb
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DevsBro
11/19/19 6:21:42 PM
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MrMallard posted...
Do you hate backwards compatibility
With other Xbox systems? Yes.

MrMallard posted...
game subscriptions
Yes

MrMallard posted...
and built-in headphone jacks to allow for a lower barrier of entry to the console's party chat functionality?
Super yes, multiplayer is the worst

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Vicious_Dios
11/19/19 6:23:53 PM
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Idontlikething.jpg

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viewmaster_pi
11/19/19 6:50:44 PM
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Feline_Heart posted...
Not having the sticks side by side is dumb
no, not having your thumbs bump each other is great. PlayStation's analog stick location is great if you have little baby hands

there's a reason Sega, Nintendo, and Xbox had them like that. PS is the odd duck

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Damn_Underscore
11/19/19 6:52:02 PM
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Dreamcast controller had that exact button layout, even the Sega Genesis controller had an alphabetical layout
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DarkRoast
11/19/19 6:52:44 PM
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I've had Xbox every generation and Microsoft has consistently been full of empty promises. They got lucky last gen. Especially in retrospect considering how genuinely awful the launch 360s were (no HDMI, no Wifi, proprietary 20 GB HDDs, RROD, etc)

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R1masher
11/19/19 6:54:08 PM
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Rb... psh
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GoodOlJr
11/19/19 6:55:02 PM
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MrMallard posted...
Do you hate backwards compatibility, game subscriptions that are second to none in their field and built-in headphone jacks to allow for a lower barrier of entry to the console's party chat functionality?


I hate a shit product losing for 20 years with a limitless bank account and hurting sony and ninty who operate ethically at a profit

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Turtlemayor333
11/19/19 6:55:53 PM
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The Playstation brand, aesthetic, whatever is so sterile. Xbox has some grit to it.

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Feline_Heart
11/19/19 6:58:42 PM
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Turtlemayor333 posted...
The Playstation brand, aesthetic, whatever is so sterile. Xbox has some grit to it.

Both of them are sterile. But PlayStation has better games

viewmaster_pi posted...
Feline_Heart posted...
Not having the sticks side by side is dumb
no, not having your thumbs bump each other is great. PlayStation's analog stick location is great if you have little baby hands

there's a reason Sega, Nintendo, and Xbox had them like that. PS is the odd duck

I dont have small hands and thats literally never happened to me
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GameboyTroy
11/19/19 7:01:16 PM
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The online subscriptions are the worst thing that the Xbox brand has standardized to me.

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viewmaster_pi
11/19/19 7:04:53 PM
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GoodOlJr posted...
ninty who operate ethically at a profit
lol, yeah, charging us to use our own internet on switch and churning out phone mtx traps is the height of ethicality

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pauIie
11/19/19 7:08:49 PM
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Turtlemayor333 posted...
The Playstation brand, aesthetic, whatever is so sterile. Xbox has some grit to it.

xbox brand reminds me of mountain dew
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gloBal enemy
11/19/19 7:11:50 PM
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pauIie posted...
xbox brand reminds me of mountain dew


It's perceived as reducing your fertility rates?

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DevsBro
11/19/19 7:24:27 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Dreamcast controller had that exact button layout, even the Sega Genesis controller had an alphabetical layout
And? It's still backwards.

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Damn_Underscore
11/19/19 7:35:45 PM
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Actually Nintendo's is backwards. A comes before B
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gloBal enemy
11/19/19 7:38:46 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Actually Nintendo's is backwards. A comes before B


I actually struggle when I switch to the Nintendo Pro Controller. I keep pressing B instead of A.

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Darmik
11/19/19 7:40:27 PM
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GoodOlJr posted...
hurting sony and ninty who operate ethically at a profit


Is this serious?
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SwayM
11/19/19 7:43:37 PM
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GameboyTroy posted...
The online subscriptions are the worst thing that the Xbox brand has standardized to me.




Ive saved legit hundreds of not thousands of dollars because of game pass. Ive tried and enjoyed games I would have never thought twice about because they were free

All first party titles day one on the service? Un fucking real.

You know the real ones out there who appreciate Microsoft and Xbox because theyve done some amazing things for this industry, all 3 generations theyve been at it. Only the truly ignorant hate them.

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PopOutAtYoParty
11/19/19 7:44:47 PM
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they corrected the face buttons

a comes before b

x is on the x axis
y is on the y axis
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WerewolfPaws
11/19/19 7:46:15 PM
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MrMallard posted...
Do you hate backwards compatibility, game subscriptions that are second to none in their field and built-in headphone jacks to allow for a lower barrier of entry to the console's party chat functionality?


Dude headphone jacks werent a thing for the X1 for a WHILE
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GameboyTroy
11/19/19 8:09:01 PM
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SwayM posted...


Ive saved legit hundreds of not thousands of dollars because of game pass. Ive tried and enjoyed games I would have never thought twice about because they were free

All first party titles day one on the service? Un fucking real.

You know the real ones out there who appreciate Microsoft and Xbox because theyve done some amazing things for this industry, all 3 generations theyve been at it. Only the truly ignorant hate them.
I wasn't specifically talking about game pass at all. I'm talking about them standardizing paying extra money to play online. That is worst thing that the Xbox brand has standardized to me

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SwayM
11/19/19 8:13:50 PM
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gloBal enemy
11/19/19 8:32:29 PM
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GameboyTroy posted...
I wasn't specifically talking about game pass at all. I'm talking about them standardizing paying extra money to play online. That is worst thing that the Xbox brand has standardized to me


But they also brought some degree of quality of service to online gaming for consoles. Realistically it's unsustainable to offer an ongoing service without some kind of matching revenue stream otherwise there is less incentive to actually maintain it once the customer has paid the upfront amount which is maximum they are going to pay.

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Superlinkbro
11/19/19 8:34:28 PM
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Xbox is ok.

Original Xbox is great and very underrated.

360 is ok although probably my least favorite console that generation and it started the paid online bullshit.

Xbox One I mostly hate although the power of the Xbox One X is nice although at that point just buy a PC

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Tyranthraxus
11/19/19 8:35:54 PM
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Feline_Heart posted...
But PlayStation has better games
They have like 95% the exact same games.

But they don't have GamePass awww yeah

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gloBal enemy
11/19/19 9:43:41 PM
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Superlinkbro posted...
Xbox is ok.

Original Xbox is great and very underrated.

360 is ok although probably my least favorite console that generation and it started the paid online bullshit.

Xbox One I mostly hate although the power of the Xbox One X is nice although at that point just buy a PC


I thought 360 was my favourite as it was when I could start buying "arcade" and old games online, and my first exposure to HD gaming.

Xbox One was good initially but I think as people started to see the weakness vs PS4, it faded out.. I regret buying an Xbox One X as well afterwards now that I realise all the good stuff is available on my PC anyway (eg Forza), and whilst there may be some performance supremacy over PS4 Pro, it's not as jarring as the original PS4 vs Xbox One differences.


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Jiggy101011
11/19/19 10:53:45 PM
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It doesnt get talked about nearly enough because its not well advertised but Gamepass Rewards is also phenomenal. I mean just by playing certain games and doing certain quests/achievements you can earn anywhere from $10 - $30 a month in rewards. Its really what achievements should have been from the start.

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AsianFury2020
11/19/19 11:06:17 PM
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Rika_Furude
11/19/19 11:10:01 PM
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gloBal enemy posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
I wasn't specifically talking about game pass at all. I'm talking about them standardizing paying extra money to play online. That is worst thing that the Xbox brand has standardized to me


But they also brought some degree of quality of service to online gaming for consoles. Realistically it's unsustainable to offer an ongoing service without some kind of matching revenue stream otherwise there is less incentive to actually maintain it once the customer has paid the upfront amount which is maximum they are going to pay.

In the past the price of the game covered server costs. Nowadays they only want to nickle and dime you and you just accept that.
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Damn_Underscore
11/19/19 11:15:51 PM
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AsianFury2020 posted...



ok zoomer
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Rika_Furude
11/19/19 11:17:22 PM
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AsianFury2020 posted...
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The xbox is literally just a poor mans nintendo
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Zack_Attackv1
11/19/19 11:21:01 PM
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I stand with the power.

Nintendo Power
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gloBal enemy
11/20/19 12:59:27 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
In the past the price of the game covered server costs. Nowadays they only want to nickle and dime you and you just accept that.


The reality is that business model of trying to build all the costs into a single one-off upfront payment doesn't last. It creates the wrong incentive structure and focuses too heavily on the short term with no real incentive to maintain the long term. Shareholders tend to hate this model as well since it just means you need to use future sales from new products to cover the costs of supporting earlier sales. (for those technical accountants out there, yes I'm aware of disaggregating components of revenue to match future costs but it's still not popular to have no ongoing revenue stream but ongoing costs)

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Darmik
11/20/19 2:08:30 AM
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Before Xbox Live third parties wanted to handle online games themselves. Companies like EA hated the idea that players could see that their friends are playing other games.

Unless you hate the idea of a universal online system for consoles Xbox Live was necessary to get where we are today.
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DevsBro
11/20/19 8:09:49 AM
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Darmik posted...
you hate the idea of a universal online system for consoles
Yep

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PopOutAtYoParty
11/20/19 8:20:07 AM
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b comes before A and x is on the vertical axis and y is on the horizontal

>nintendo fans
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WerewolfPaws
11/20/19 8:22:21 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Feline_Heart posted...
But PlayStation has better games
They have like 95% the exact same games.

But they don't have GamePass awww yeah


You say this like PlayStation doesnt have their own version of Game Pass.
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Tyranthraxus
11/20/19 8:29:43 AM
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WerewolfPaws posted...
You say this like PlayStation doesnt have their own version of Game Pass.


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DevsBro
11/20/19 8:31:52 AM
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PopOutAtYoParty posted...
b comes before A and x is on the vertical axis and y is on the horizontal

>nintendo fans
The X axis goes to the left, every game has always used the bottom face button for confirm, and the Xbox is older than the SNES

>Xbox fans

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apocalyptic_4
11/20/19 8:35:20 AM
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Sony fanboys are truly the worst of the 3.


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PopOutAtYoParty
11/20/19 8:48:01 AM
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A is to confirm
Bottom face button should be A

B is to GO BACK. Right button has always been to go back.

X axis is left to right. Y is up and down. X is on the left. Y is up top. Literal math.
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Jiggy101011
11/20/19 9:08:23 AM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
Sony fanboys are truly the worst of the 3.


The thing I dont get about Sony fanboys is they always want Microsoft and Nintendo to fail, and a world where Sony is the only one left sounds fucking awful. Just look at the launch of the PS3 as a prime example of a company that let their past success go straight to their head.

Competition breeds innovation and usually results in consumer friendly practices. I just wish more fanboys understood that but instead its all about what metacritic score the last exclusive got vs the competition.

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WerewolfPaws
11/20/19 9:10:08 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
WerewolfPaws posted...
You say this like PlayStation doesnt have their own version of Game Pass.



I own both systems and dont see a lick of difference between the two.
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LostForest
11/20/19 9:10:30 AM
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Xbox aint so bad, TC.

Personally I don't mind Xbox or Nintendo. But I hate PlayStation as a brand. It's built on stealing ideas, pretentiousness, and paid celebrity endorsements.
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Romulox28
11/20/19 9:34:27 AM
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one of my biggest issues with the xbox brand is that they keep changing their focus & direction. is it a casual gaming/netflix box, is it a subscription/services box, is it pc gaming for console gamers box? nobody knows, and MS keeps changing this direction every few years. at least with a playstation or nintendo, you know what you're getting into most of the time
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