Poll of the Day > PCs are so expensive man

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in Canada especially. Going to replace my 6 year old college laptop with a decent gaming PC because it's crashing so much I got banned in Overwatch. heard a combo of the ryzen 2600 and RX 580 was pretty much the minimum for modern games. looked into what a build would cost and it's like $800. I'm broke and I can't cope.

$800 is expensive? You get that doing a month of part time at minimum wage.
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VeeVees posted...

$800 is expensive? You get that doing a month of part time at minimum wage.

Unfortunately, people sometimes have other bills to pay

I spent more on my pc than that though. It was like 1100 in the end

Where the hell did you find such an amazing bargain? An rx580 is $230 on it's own.

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My desktop is almost 10 years old (eep) and nearly giving up the ghost. Dreading the cost to replace it but I think that's needed in the next year, if not the next few months.

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OhhhJa posted...

VeeVees posted...

$800 is expensive? You get that doing a month of part time at minimum wage.

Unfortunately, people sometimes have other bills to pay

This. Plus, not every can make that depending on where you live. Thats a full paycheck from my other job when I was working full time there. The area has a low cost of living, so people get paid less here...

I wish I could get $800 working part time at minimum wage. Where the hell do you live where can you do that, anyway?
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LinkPizza posted...

OhhhJa posted...

VeeVees posted...

$800 is expensive? You get that doing a month of part time at minimum wage.

Unfortunately, people sometimes have other bills to pay

This. Plus, not every can make that depending on where you live. Thats a full paycheck from my other job when I was working full time there. The area has a low cost of living, so people get paid less here...

I wish I could get $800 working part time at minimum wage. Where the hell do you live where can you do that, anyway?

Canada, where TC lives. $11 is lowest minimum wage. If you can't even afford $800 then may be you should just play low end games.
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^ Hey everybody, this guy makes money! 800 dollars pshhhhh!

Oh wow, I have $800. I must be rich.
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Check it out guys, this guy can spend 800 dollars right now and not even care!

why would anyone need a personal computer. I thought a personal pizza was crazy!

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My last PC was 3000, and I am from Canada,

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VeeVees posted...

I have $800.

Look it at Mr. Gates here, flaunting his 800 dollars.
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VeeVees posted...

LinkPizza posted...

OhhhJa posted...

VeeVees posted...

$800 is expensive? You get that doing a month of part time at minimum wage.

Unfortunately, people sometimes have other bills to pay

This. Plus, not every can make that depending on where you live. Thats a full paycheck from my other job when I was working full time there. The area has a low cost of living, so people get paid less here...

I wish I could get $800 working part time at minimum wage. Where the hell do you live where can you do that, anyway?

Canada, where TC lives. $11 is lowest minimum wage. If you can't even afford $800 then may be you should just play low end games.

11 at 80 hours every two weeks (assuming you get paid every two weeks) is $880. That would mean a full time job only nets you $880 a month. So, not part time. That being said, if you live on your own, I feel most of that would go to rent. Especially in Canada. I heard rent there was higher than where I live. And then you still have other bills. So, while youre right about being able to buy an $800 computer with a part time job, that leave only $80 to spend on rent, bills, food, etc. So, not really that cheap...

Edit: Though, it actually might not be enough. I forgot to mention taxes. If taxes are taken out of the check, then you may not have enough for that computer with your monthly income of a part time job at minimum wage...
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yeah I have a job but christmas coming up and I got bills to pay bro, it's tough out here. $800 still a lot of money for a computer, I thought it was like $500 for a midrange build so I'm shocked

acesxhigh posted...

I thought it was like $500 for a midrange build so I'm shocked

I got this bookmarked from somewhere when gaming pc came up so idk, you could take a look.

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/pvttt6/entry-level-amd-gaming-build
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LinkPizza posted...

VeeVees posted...

LinkPizza posted...

OhhhJa posted...

VeeVees posted...

$800 is expensive? You get that doing a month of part time at minimum wage.

Unfortunately, people sometimes have other bills to pay

This. Plus, not every can make that depending on where you live. Thats a full paycheck from my other job when I was working full time there. The area has a low cost of living, so people get paid less here...

I wish I could get $800 working part time at minimum wage. Where the hell do you live where can you do that, anyway?

Canada, where TC lives. $11 is lowest minimum wage. If you can't even afford $800 then may be you should just play low end games.

11 at 80 hours every two weeks (assuming you get paid every two weeks) is $880. That would mean a full time job only nets you $880 a month. So, not part time. That being said, if you live on your own, I feel most of that would go to rent. Especially in Canada. I heard rent there was higher than where I live. And then you still have other bills. So, while youre right about being able to buy an $800 computer with a part time job, that leave only $80 to spend on rent, bills, food, etc. So, not really that cheap...

Edit: Though, it actually might not be enough. I forgot to mention taxes. If taxes are taken out of the check, then you may not have enough for that computer with your monthly income of a part time job at minimum wage...

I don't know what math you are doing. 20 hours per week at $11 is $880 in a month. You get tax refund at such low income. If you have a bunch of other expenses then you are probably not just working part time at minimum wage.
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This just doesnt need to be a debate lol. For most people, 800 dollars is a semi major purchase. Most people are at least somewhat cautious with their purchase when it's that much

VeeVees posted...

If you have a bunch of other expenses then you are probably not just working part time at minimum wage.

Uhh, what? Paying rent and eating means you're not just working part time at minimum wage? What kind of logic is that?
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i built my pc in late 2015 and it cost me around $950 (canadian) and it was extremely midrange back then. and that was when i lived in a small town with no local computer stores so i ordered everything online, and i only had a part-time job so i was buying my parts slowly over time (which allowed me to wait for deals)
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adjl posted...

VeeVees posted...

If you have a bunch of other expenses then you are probably not just working part time at minimum wage.

Uhh, what? Paying rent and eating means you're not just working part time at minimum wage? What kind of logic is that?

So you got a bunch of shit to pay for and all you are doing is a part time job at minimum wage? I guess you just deserve to be poor.
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How is the 570 instead? Anyone got one? I've been running a radeon 4850 equivalent for the past 8 years so obviously anything modern would be a major improvement. I can make a $700 budget with a 570 I think (as long as I reuse my SSD and keep stock cooling)

I have had student loan payments >15k in the past 9 months plus rent and bills and all that so yeah I'm a little low on money, that's how life works out sometimes man what can ya do

VeeVees posted...

LinkPizza posted...

VeeVees posted...

LinkPizza posted...

OhhhJa posted...

VeeVees posted...

$800 is expensive? You get that doing a month of part time at minimum wage.

Unfortunately, people sometimes have other bills to pay

This. Plus, not every can make that depending on where you live. Thats a full paycheck from my other job when I was working full time there. The area has a low cost of living, so people get paid less here...

I wish I could get $800 working part time at minimum wage. Where the hell do you live where can you do that, anyway?

Canada, where TC lives. $11 is lowest minimum wage. If you can't even afford $800 then may be you should just play low end games.

11 at 80 hours every two weeks (assuming you get paid every two weeks) is $880. That would mean a full time job only nets you $880 a month. So, not part time. That being said, if you live on your own, I feel most of that would go to rent. Especially in Canada. I heard rent there was higher than where I live. And then you still have other bills. So, while youre right about being able to buy an $800 computer with a part time job, that leave only $80 to spend on rent, bills, food, etc. So, not really that cheap...

Edit: Though, it actually might not be enough. I forgot to mention taxes. If taxes are taken out of the check, then you may not have enough for that computer with your monthly income of a part time job at minimum wage...

I don't know what math you are doing. 20 hours per week at $11 is $880 in a month. You get tax refund at such low income. If you have a bunch of other expenses then you are probably not just working part time at minimum wage.

Yeah. Did you even read the post. I said you get $880 a month. And taxes will be taken out of that. So, youll get less than $800. And just working more doesnt mean $800 is still cheap. BecIse of all the hills people pay. Rent, water, electric, gas (in some places), Internet, may car payments, gas for the car, food, everything else needed to live. For most people, $800 is just money they can throw around just because they work a lot. Just because $800 is apparently nothing to you doesnt mean everyone else is rich to just toss around $800 freely...
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LinkPizza posted...

VeeVees posted...

LinkPizza posted...

VeeVees posted...

LinkPizza posted...

OhhhJa posted...

VeeVees posted...

$800 is expensive? You get that doing a month of part time at minimum wage.

Unfortunately, people sometimes have other bills to pay

This. Plus, not every can make that depending on where you live. Thats a full paycheck from my other job when I was working full time there. The area has a low cost of living, so people get paid less here...

I wish I could get $800 working part time at minimum wage. Where the hell do you live where can you do that, anyway?

Canada, where TC lives. $11 is lowest minimum wage. If you can't even afford $800 then may be you should just play low end games.

11 at 80 hours every two weeks (assuming you get paid every two weeks) is $880. That would mean a full time job only nets you $880 a month. So, not part time. That being said, if you live on your own, I feel most of that would go to rent. Especially in Canada. I heard rent there was higher than where I live. And then you still have other bills. So, while youre right about being able to buy an $800 computer with a part time job, that leave only $80 to spend on rent, bills, food, etc. So, not really that cheap...

Edit: Though, it actually might not be enough. I forgot to mention taxes. If taxes are taken out of the check, then you may not have enough for that computer with your monthly income of a part time job at minimum wage...

I don't know what math you are doing. 20 hours per week at $11 is $880 in a month. You get tax refund at such low income. If you have a bunch of other expenses then you are probably not just working part time at minimum wage.

Yeah. Did you even read the post. I said you get $880 a month. And taxes will be taken out of that. So, youll get less than $800. And just working more doesnt mean $800 is still cheap. BecIse of all the hills people pay. Rent, water, electric, gas (in some places), Internet, may car payments, gas for the car, food, everything else needed to live. For most people, $800 is just money they can throw around just because they work a lot. Just because $800 is apparently nothing to you doesnt mean everyone else is rich to just toss around $800 freely...

You are right. I wasn't really reading what you said because it's all babbling to me. It was a simple example of how easy $800 can come by. I do not understand people like you who thinks $800 is for rich people. If you can't even afford $800 then may be just play cheaper games.
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They managed to do it at $500

https://www.wepc.com/builds/best-gaming-pc-under-500/

Wow, the rx 570 decimates my gtx 970 in terms of value. Just as powerful, 1/4 the price.

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acesxhigh posted...

How is the 570 instead? Anyone got one? I've been running a radeon 4850 equivalent for the past 8 years so obviously anything modern would be a major improvement. I can make a $700 budget with a 570 I think (as long as I reuse my SSD and keep stock cooling)

I have had student loan payments >15k in the past 9 months plus rent and bills and all that so yeah I'm a little low on money, that's how life works out sometimes man what can ya do

I mean 570 is obviously worse than 580, but it will run things at 30 fps no problem. Then again, 580 probably won't run constant 60 fps anyway.
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VeeVees posted...

You are right. I wasn't really reading what you said because it's all babbling to me. It was a simple example of how easy $800 can come by. I do not understand people like you who thinks $800 is for rich people. If you can't even afford $800 then may be just play cheaper games.

If you dont have other bills, maybe $800 is simple to come by. Its not that $800 is for rich people. But thats a big purchase to most people. Most people dont have $800 of play money a month. I dont understand you who thinks that people who pay bills and stuff will always just have $800 to do whatever with. Its easy to come by $800. But it doesnt matter if you month rent is bills is about twice as much. And that makes ok sense to say if you cant afford $800, just play cheaper games. It just sounds like you either have no responsibilities, or you have much more money than the average person...
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VeeVees posted...

acesxhigh posted...

How is the 570 instead? Anyone got one? I've been running a radeon 4850 equivalent for the past 8 years so obviously anything modern would be a major improvement. I can make a $700 budget with a 570 I think (as long as I reuse my SSD and keep stock cooling)

I have had student loan payments >15k in the past 9 months plus rent and bills and all that so yeah I'm a little low on money, that's how life works out sometimes man what can ya do

I mean 570 is obviously worse than 580, but it will run things at 30 fps no problem. Then again, 580 probably won't run constant 60 fps anyway.

Am I getting trolled, looked at benchmarks and 570 seems like a good card for 1080p 60fps gaming

acesxhigh posted...

VeeVees posted...

acesxhigh posted...

How is the 570 instead? Anyone got one? I've been running a radeon 4850 equivalent for the past 8 years so obviously anything modern would be a major improvement. I can make a $700 budget with a 570 I think (as long as I reuse my SSD and keep stock cooling)

I have had student loan payments >15k in the past 9 months plus rent and bills and all that so yeah I'm a little low on money, that's how life works out sometimes man what can ya do

I mean 570 is obviously worse than 580, but it will run things at 30 fps no problem. Then again, 580 probably won't run constant 60 fps anyway.

Am I getting trolled, looked at benchmarks and 570 seems like a good card for 1080p 60fps gaming

You can get 1080/60 on some games if you drop some other settings to med. Obviously depends on the game.
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LinkPizza posted...

VeeVees posted...

You are right. I wasn't really reading what you said because it's all babbling to me. It was a simple example of how easy $800 can come by. I do not understand people like you who thinks $800 is for rich people. If you can't even afford $800 then may be just play cheaper games.

If you dont have other bills, maybe $800 is simple to come by. Its not that $800 is for rich people. But thats a big purchase to most people. Most people dont have $800 of play money a month. I dont understand you who thinks that people who pay bills and stuff will always just have $800 to do whatever with. Its easy to come by $800. But it doesnt matter if you month rent is bills is about twice as much. And that makes ok sense to say if you cant afford $800, just play cheaper games. It just sounds like you either have no responsibilities, or you have much more money than the average person...

"Average" of what demographic? A computer IS a bigger purchase as it's suppose to last a long time. If you use it for 3 years it's less than $1 per day.
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I guess I will have to see what kind of graphically demanding games I will be interested in then, right now I'm just looking at playing Halo MCC and Overwatch tbh. Dirt Rally 2 or Project Cars 2 maybe

You're right, a PC will last a while and 500 vs 800 isn't that huge when you consider the lifespan. But u know why they say Sticker Shock.

VeeVees posted...

LinkPizza posted...

VeeVees posted...

You are right. I wasn't really reading what you said because it's all babbling to me. It was a simple example of how easy $800 can come by. I do not understand people like you who thinks $800 is for rich people. If you can't even afford $800 then may be just play cheaper games.

If you dont have other bills, maybe $800 is simple to come by. Its not that $800 is for rich people. But thats a big purchase to most people. Most people dont have $800 of play money a month. I dont understand you who thinks that people who pay bills and stuff will always just have $800 to do whatever with. Its easy to come by $800. But it doesnt matter if you month rent is bills is about twice as much. And that makes ok sense to say if you cant afford $800, just play cheaper games. It just sounds like you either have no responsibilities, or you have much more money than the average person...

"Average" of what demographic? A computer IS a bigger purchase as it's suppose to last a long time. If you use it for 3 years it's less than $1 per day.

Yeah. But people usually aren't saving a dollar a day for a PC. They usually just buy it all at once. In the long run, lots of things are cheaper if you think about how much it cost per day...
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LinkPizza posted...

VeeVees posted...

LinkPizza posted...

VeeVees posted...

You are right. I wasn't really reading what you said because it's all babbling to me. It was a simple example of how easy $800 can come by. I do not understand people like you who thinks $800 is for rich people. If you can't even afford $800 then may be just play cheaper games.

If you dont have other bills, maybe $800 is simple to come by. Its not that $800 is for rich people. But thats a big purchase to most people. Most people dont have $800 of play money a month. I dont understand you who thinks that people who pay bills and stuff will always just have $800 to do whatever with. Its easy to come by $800. But it doesnt matter if you month rent is bills is about twice as much. And that makes ok sense to say if you cant afford $800, just play cheaper games. It just sounds like you either have no responsibilities, or you have much more money than the average person...

"Average" of what demographic? A computer IS a bigger purchase as it's suppose to last a long time. If you use it for 3 years it's less than $1 per day.

Yeah. But people usually aren't saving a dollar a day for a PC. They usually just buy it all at once. In the long run, lots of things are cheaper if you think about how much it cost per day...

I don't about you but people I know save money every paycheck for various spendings in the future.

acesxhigh posted...

I guess I will have to see what kind of graphically demanding games I will be interested in then, right now I'm just looking at playing Halo MCC and Overwatch tbh. Dirt Rally 2 or Project Cars 2 maybe

I don't know about halo but 570 will destroy overwatch and dirt rally 2 should run 60 on high no problem.
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VeeVees posted...

I don't about you but people I know save money every paycheck for various spendings in the future.

I try. But I am currently one of the 78% of Americans that live paycheck to pay. I have 2 jobs (a full time job, and a full-time job that I'm getting part-time hours at). With my bills and rent, I don't get enough to have $800 a month. I can save a little. But eventually, within 3 years, an emergency will probably happen. I don't have time to save $800 for 3 years. And most people aren't saving a dollar a day for a computer. I'say probably less that 0.1% of people do that...
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If you're broke, as you claim, maybe you shouldn't be looking into what's a luxury purchase in your situation. If you need to replace your PC for non-gaming reasons, I'm guessing you could find a new one for less than half of what you're looking at.
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Peasants everywhere

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I make decent money and have decent savings, and I still balked at spending a mere hundred bucks on art supplies today

Shaming people for being wary of big purchases (and yea 800 dollars is a big purchase) is pretty ridic

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I wasn't being serious with that comment BTW

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@acesxhigh posted...

in Canada especially. Going to replace my 6 year old college laptop with a decent gaming PC because it's crashing so much I got banned in Overwatch. heard a combo of the ryzen 2600 and RX 580 was pretty much the minimum for modern games. looked into what a build would cost and it's like $800. I'm broke and I can't cope.

RX 580 benchs on passmark at 8500 that is a shit video card/processor combo for gaming. As the video card will limit the processor.

On 27th Walmart.com is selling HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop Tower, Intel Core i5-9400F, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660Ti, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD for $580 ($760 canadian). Import it that day. You are welcome.

GTX 1160Ti benchs passmark at 12,000 btw.

CPUs on both builds are pretty much equal to each other.

If you want to bypass Canadian customs just drive South to Walmart across border, and make sure to remove computer from box before coming back (say you went to a lan party).

what world are you guys living in where a part-time minimum wage job pays all the bills and driving across the border is cheaper
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@TheWitchMorgana posted...

what world are you guys living in where a part-time minimum wage job pays all the bills and driving across the border is cheaper

It cost about $20-$30 in gas to drive 4 hours south and then back again.

Which is pretty much the max most in Canada would have to drive to get to a American Walmart.

Much cheaper than Rip Off Canadian Taxes and Customs.

Heck $100 says he at least has 2 family members/friends planning to go south for black friday anyway. He can hitch a ride with them.

literally nobody is going to do that dude
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TheWitchMorgana posted...

literally nobody is going to do that dude

Not everyone is lazy.

Also I know a crazy high number of Canadians who do Black Friday in USA.

Their discount holiday Boxing Day sucks.

How do you get banned from Overwatch for a crashing computer?
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Revelation34 posted...

How do you get banned from Overwatch for a crashing computer?

they treat it like an abandon

acesxhigh posted...

Revelation34 posted...

How do you get banned from Overwatch for a crashing computer?

they treat it like an abandon

This is true... I remember seeing something about it once...
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i spent about that much on a pc and monitor during prime day discounts (plus $100 off for my employee discount)
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LinkPizza posted...

VeeVees posted...

You are right. I wasn't really reading what you said because it's all babbling to me. It was a simple example of how easy $800 can come by. I do not understand people like you who thinks $800 is for rich people. If you can't even afford $800 then may be just play cheaper games.

If you dont have other bills, maybe $800 is simple to come by. Its not that $800 is for rich people. But thats a big purchase to most people. Most people dont have $800 of play money a month. I dont understand you who thinks that people who pay bills and stuff will always just have $800 to do whatever with. Its easy to come by $800. But it doesnt matter if you month rent is bills is about twice as much. And that makes ok sense to say if you cant afford $800, just play cheaper games. It just sounds like you either have no responsibilities, or you have much more money than the average person...

You realize you can set some money aside right? Even if you don't have $800 per month of play money if you have say $150-200 of play money saving up for 4 months gets you that $800. It's not like you need to buy a PC every 4 months or something it's a purchase most make ever 3-4 years or longer.