Current Events > Disney + revisits Han's shoots first in episode 4. Changed it AGAIN!

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darkphoenix181
11/13/19 1:52:10 PM
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Edit: since people can't seem to read the below

It was changed once again for the 4th time on disney+ per agreement lucas made with disney to buy the films.

This is not the blu ray change.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/disney-plus-star-wars-han-shoots-first-scene-chang/1100-6471369/?ftag=THR-01-10aaa0b

Of all the many changes that George Lucas made to the original Star Wars trilogy over the course of its various reissues and rereleases, there are none as controversial as Greedo shooting first in his confrontation with Han Solo in the original 1977 film A New Hope. The film is one of many Star Wars movies now available in 4K on Disney+, and the scene has been changed yet again--and following some confusion, an explanation for this change (and the word "maclunkey") has potentially emerged.

The moment comes towards the end of the iconic Mos Eisley Cantina sequence, when Greedo confronts Han about the money owed to Jabba the Hutt. In the original version, Han abruptly ends the discussion by shooting Greedo dead, before swaggering out of the bar. But when the movie was re-released as the Special Edition with various digital alterations in 1997, it was changed so that Greedo fires first and (somehow) misses, before Han shoots him, changing Han's motivation from murder to self-defence. The scene was changed yet again for the 2011 Blu-ray release, when the gap between the two shots was reduced to make them almost simultaneous.

With the movie now on Disney+, it hasn't taken fans long to notice that the scene has changed yet again. The time between blaster shots has been tightened even further, and before that, there's a newly inserted edit of Greedo saying something without subtitles (that appears to sound like "maclunkey").

Disney has reportedly confirmed that the change was made at the behest of George Lucas, with an agreement being made before Disney acquired the Star Wars franchise.
As for the purpose of the change, CNET's Sean Buckley has done some sleuthing and determined the word or words Greedo says aren't entirely new to Star Wars. Sebulba appears to say it in Episode 1: The Phantom Menace, using it as a threat. Buckley suggests the addition of the line is meant to justify Han's actions, showing that he was acting in self-defence.
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sylverlolol
11/13/19 1:52:29 PM
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darkphoenix181
11/13/19 1:54:32 PM
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sylverlolol posted...
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Disney + just came out
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Myzery
11/13/19 1:55:07 PM
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This happened years ago. Idk why it's just now getting attention.
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darkphoenix181
11/13/19 1:56:48 PM
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Myzery posted...
This happened years ago. Idk why it's just now getting attention.


What do you mean?

Did you read this part?

With the movie now on Disney+, it hasn't taken fans long to notice that the scene has changed yet again. The time between blaster shots has been tightened even further, and before that, there's a newly inserted edit of Greedo saying something without subtitles (that appears to sound like "maclunkey").
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MC_BatCommander
11/13/19 1:58:22 PM
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It is so bizarre to me how obsessed Lucas is with changing this scene

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Blue_Inigo
11/13/19 1:59:28 PM
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What is the obsession with this scene? Why change it so often? Who the fuck cares who shot first? Han still killed him
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darkphoenix181
11/13/19 2:00:01 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
It is so bizarre to me how obsessed Lucas is with changing this scene


Guess he don't want fans thinking Han murders?
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The Admiral
11/13/19 2:00:56 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
It is so bizarre to me how obsessed Lucas is with changing this scene


Guess he don't want fans thinking Han murders?


I mean, Luke murdered millions of innocent people who were forced to work on the Death Star under the imperial iron fist. Don't see any apologies for that.
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darkphoenix181
11/13/19 2:01:30 PM
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The Admiral posted...
I mean, Luke murdered millions of innocent people who were forced to work on the Death Star under the imperial iron fist. Don't see any apologies for that.


They were part of the evil system though.
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The Admiral
11/13/19 2:02:31 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
The Admiral posted...
I mean, Luke murdered millions of innocent people who were forced to work on the Death Star under the imperial iron fist. Don't see any apologies for that.


They were part of the evil system though.


So was Greedo
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AlecSkorpio
11/13/19 2:03:03 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78155182
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darkphoenix181
11/13/19 2:03:50 PM
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AlecSkorpio posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78155182


22 hours ago, only 4 posts.

Sorry buddy, this my thread nowm
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Tmaster148
11/13/19 2:04:01 PM
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LOL, Is Admiral really coming to the defense of the Empire? The authoritarian regime that controlled the entire galaxy.

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darkphoenix181
11/13/19 2:06:40 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
LOL, Is Admiral really coming to the defense of the Empire? The authoritarian regime that controlled the entire galaxy.


No.
He is defending the innocent conscripts forces to clean the halls.
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Myzery
11/13/19 2:22:54 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Myzery posted...
This happened years ago. Idk why it's just now getting attention.


What do you mean?

Did you read this part?

With the movie now on Disney+, it hasn't taken fans long to notice that the scene has changed yet again. The time between blaster shots has been tightened even further, and before that, there's a newly inserted edit of Greedo saying something without subtitles (that appears to sound like "maclunkey").


Yes. Happened years ago.
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darkphoenix181
11/13/19 2:23:58 PM
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@Myzery posted...
Yes. Happened years ago.


Prove it.

What release did it change in?
What streaming platform?

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hockeybub89
11/13/19 2:26:16 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
No.
He is defending the innocent conscripts forces to clean the halls.
It's called war. Every Nazi soldier wasn't literally Hitler, but they would have killed you if you didn't kill them all the same.

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The Admiral
11/13/19 2:26:32 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
LOL, Is Admiral really coming to the defense of the Empire? The authoritarian regime that controlled the entire galaxy.


No.
He is defending the innocent conscripts forces to clean the halls.


Yep. There were also neutral contractors, bounty hunters, and other innocent prisoners in the cells next to where Leia was held.
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AlecSkorpio
11/13/19 2:26:46 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
AlecSkorpio posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78155182


22 hours ago, only 4 posts.

Sorry buddy, this my thread nowm

Also I took effort to put part if the article in my op unlike that other tc

Smh


Too bad you got the story wrong where that one had it right from the start

Also youre 22 hours hella late son
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darkphoenix181
11/13/19 2:27:18 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
It's called war. Every Nazi soldier wasn't literally Hitler, but they would have killed you if you didn't kill them all the same.


That is correct, see post #10
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HBOSS
11/13/19 2:27:51 PM
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so, han was a scoundrel before the end of star wars IV. never wouldve thought that.

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Myzery
11/13/19 2:28:23 PM
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It's on one of the Blu Ray's from before Disney bought it.
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darkphoenix181
11/13/19 2:28:37 PM
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AlecSkorpio posted...
Too bad you got the story wrong where that one had it right from the start


Where and how woukd one have watched the supposed digital version that had this?
Prove it
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bloodydeath0
11/13/19 2:28:58 PM
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han shot first

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hockeybub89
11/13/19 2:29:13 PM
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Is giving Han superhuman reaction time and incredible luck really better than him shooting a bounty hunter first?

Stop editing movies after the fact

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darkphoenix181
11/13/19 2:30:16 PM
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@Myzery posted...
It's on one of the Blu Ray's from before Disney bought it.


That would have been the 3rd edit.

Disney bought star wars in 2012.

So you apparently are WRONG

The scene was changed yet again for the 2011 Blu-ray release, when the gap between the two shots was reduced to make them almost simultaneous.

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darkphoenix181
11/13/19 2:35:15 PM
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Wikipedia also has no record of changes after 2011

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changes_in_Star_Wars_re-releases

The first significant changes were made in 1997 with the release of a Special Edition remaster in commemoration of the franchise's twentieth anniversary. These changes were intended to modernize the films and create consistency with the forthcoming prequel trilogy. Additional notable changes were made when the original trilogy was released on DVD in 2004, in an attempt to create more consistency with the prequel trilogy after the release of Attack of the Clones and in anticipation of Revenge of the Sith. More changes were made to the films for their Blu-ray release in 2011.

Pls stop mandella effecting my thread.

K thx
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MabusIncarnate
11/13/19 2:38:48 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
22 hours ago, only 4 posts.

Sorry buddy, this my thread nowm

Also I took effort to put part if the article in my op unlike that other tc

Smh
You can't just change forum etiquette. He posted it up first, bro.

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darkphoenix181
11/13/19 2:39:51 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
You can't just change forum etiquette. He posted it up first, bro.


I didn't, you are posting in my thread. Why is that?
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MabusIncarnate
11/13/19 2:40:45 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
I didn't, you are posting in my thread. Why is that?
I like you

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darkphoenix181
11/13/19 2:41:03 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
I like you


Ty :D
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ThePrinceFish
11/13/19 2:41:17 PM
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Han shot first. And that's okay. Greedo was an imminent threat to his well being and he had to defend himself with a preemptive strike.
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sLaCkEr408___RJ
11/13/19 2:41:57 PM
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Han shot only, imo
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CyricZ
11/13/19 2:43:15 PM
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Ah so this is why "Maclunkey" has been all over my feed.

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ThePrinceFish
11/13/19 2:43:34 PM
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Maclunkly is pretty fucking funny to hear tho
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darkphoenix181
11/13/19 2:44:13 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Ah so this is why "Maclunkey" has been all over my feed.


And yet some users pretend this happened in 2011 or 2012?

Yet no one noticed.

Yea right.
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HBOSS
11/13/19 2:45:20 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Ah so this is why "Maclunkey" has been all over my feed.


ThePrinceFish posted...
Maclunkly is pretty fucking funny to hear tho
hmm now i have to listen for that the next time i watch star wars

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darkphoenix181
11/13/19 2:46:21 PM
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Everytime I read it, I think of Maculey Coulkin.
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ArchiePeck
11/13/19 2:51:46 PM
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TC having a bit of a melty here LOL
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darkphoenix181
11/13/19 2:54:24 PM
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ArchiePeck posted...
TC having a bit of a melty here LOL


Ty for your post.

That makes 42 posts now.
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Rika_Furude
11/13/19 2:59:58 PM
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Oof that previous post didnt age well
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MC_BatCommander
11/13/19 3:00:23 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
Han shot first. And that's okay. Greedo was an imminent threat to his well being and he had to defend himself with a preemptive strike.


Yeah Greedo had him at gun point. Most people would argue Han was already shooting in self defense without the changes

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HylianFox
11/13/19 3:00:27 PM
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this is just another good reminder as to why I gave up on star wars

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darkphoenix181
11/13/19 3:00:47 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Oof that previous post didnt age well


How dare you!
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Foppe
11/13/19 3:06:18 PM
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darkphoenix181
11/13/19 3:06:57 PM
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Foppe posted...


Nice pic.

Does it mean anything?
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__aCEr__
11/13/19 3:07:09 PM
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This guy was also a bounty hunter getting ready to turn Han over to like the scummiest scum-lord in the galaxy. Who wouldn't shoot that guy?

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Foppe
11/13/19 3:08:42 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Nice pic.

Does it mean anything?
Lucas wearing a Han Shot First tshirt at the production of Indiana Jones IV.

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