Board 8 > ~~SephG's decennial "Best of" topic: the 2010s!~~

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HotDogButts
11/28/19 9:25:33 PM
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Everything everything could be so much better if their vocalist wasnt absolutely horrible
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Seginustemple
11/28/19 9:58:11 PM
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I mean he could be more polished live I guess but I wouldn't trade his unique style for anything. I think he fits perfectly over what they do
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Nelson_Mandela
11/28/19 10:11:49 PM
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Is this like a Mars Volta situation? I remember when I first came to the board, all the music guys told me to listen to them, but I literally couldn't get past that obnoxious singing voice.
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FFDragon
11/28/19 10:25:25 PM
#204:


Can't talk about obnoxious singing voices without mentioning Coheed and Cambria
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Giggsalot
11/29/19 7:57:13 AM
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whoa i missed a lot in this topic. here's some scattered thoughts!

  • TLOP and KSG are both great and writing that down makes me think that I under-rated Kanye's decade slightly. I'd take his 2010s over his 2000s, I think!
  • the lack of mainstream rock bands this decade is admittedly pretty unprecedented but I really don't worry about it. maybe it's just my nerdiness, but when I think about massively influential bands my mind goes first to stuff like the velvet underground and joy division, neither of whom were commercially successful in their time at all really. there are as many inspirational bands like that around now as ever, and I think enough people are hearing them to safeguard the future of rock and roll or whatever.
  • everything everything are ridiculously fun and creative and absolutely one of those bands - check them out for sure. since foals decided they'd rather be U2 they've taken up their mantle and sprinted away from every other semi-mainstream british indie band
  • not gonna massively argue with Ivy or MBDTF, neither are my picks but both are great and feel representative enough.


Nelson_Mandela posted...
@Giggsalot tell me what albums and songs I'm sleeping on


christ, where to start? I have no idea how to even begin to summarize a decade of music! if you narrow me down on genre or something, maybe I can begin to talk more precisely.

that said, here's a quickly thrown together list of albums I utterly adore. (I made it just long enough to sneak a bona fide indie rock record on there!)

  1. nicolas jaar - nymphs
  2. a winged victory for the sullen - s/t
  3. gris - a l'ame enflamee, a l'ame constellee
  4. mark kozelek and jimmy lavalle - perils from the sea
  5. matana roberts - coin coin chapter one: gens de couleur libres
  6. burial - kindred
  7. mutual benefit - love's crushing diamond
  8. danny brown - xxx
  9. swans - the seer
  10. kanye west - my beautiful dark twisted fantasy
  11. kendrick lamar - good kid maad city
  12. flying lotus - cosmogramma
  13. lorde - melodrama
  14. rome - der aesthetik der mannschaftsfreiheit
  15. lana del rey - norman fucking rockwell
  16. earl sweatshirt - some rap songs
  17. mount eerie - a crow looked at me
  18. the weeknd - trilogy
  19. tropical fuck storm - a laughing death in meatspace
  20. spectral lore - iii
  21. agalloch - marrow of the spirit
  22. algiers - algiers
  23. young thug - jeffrey
  24. vince staples - summertime '06
  25. hop along - painted shut

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Nelson_Mandela
11/29/19 9:34:31 AM
#206:


You know what's wild? When I started conceptualizing this list, my brain was convinced Untrue came out in 2011 and the early part of the decade was owned by Burial. But then I realized how long ago it really was. I can't believe how unproductive he's been for 10 years.

Anyway, Giggs it sounds like I need to listen to more Future. Got any good individual songs of his to whet my appetite?
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Aecioo
11/29/19 11:04:43 AM
#207:


Book of Mormon is really fantastic. There's a decent cam of it with the original cast you can find if you want to see it and you live somewhere it will never show, but in person is so good. You miss a lot by only listening to the soundtrack because the bits in between the songs are also hilarious

I love the Hamilton soundtrack and will be seeing it in person when it comes to atlanta in the next few months.

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SeabassDebeste
11/29/19 12:46:08 PM
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officially seeing BOM on wednesday!
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Nelson_Mandela
11/29/19 1:25:38 PM
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SeabassDebeste posted...
officially seeing BOM on wednesday!

Good stuff!
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Giggsalot
11/29/19 5:23:50 PM
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Nelson_Mandela posted...
You know what's wild? When I started conceptualizing this list, my brain was convinced Untrue came out in 2011 and the early part of the decade was owned by Burial. But then I realized how long ago it really was. I can't believe how unproductive he's been for 10 years.

Anyway, Giggs it sounds like I need to listen to more Future. Got any good individual songs of his to whet my appetite?
I don't think he's been unproductive at all, he's just put out EPs and singles rather than albums. With his Kindred, Rough Sleeper and Rival Dealer EPs, you could easily make the case that he did rule the early part of the decade! He has a decade-spanning compilation coming out next week (Tunes 2011-2019) - if you've neglected his stuff this decade that's essential listening.

And oh man! Future probably isn't someone you'll love unless you can appreciate the trap style, but he's actually super versatile within that and has so much good stuff this decade. Most people would tell you his best projects are DS2 and Monster, but his 2014-15 period was this decade's closest equivalent to Wayne's insane 2006-07 run, and he has great stuff littered throughout his discog.

If I was going to make a starter playlist that summarizes his various styles it might look something like this:

March Madness
Codeine Crazy
Turn on the Lights
Just Like Bruddas
I Serve the Base
Mask Off
Fly Shit Only
Hardly
Coming Out Strong
Benz Friendz

If none of those appeal to you then I think you can safely move on!

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Nelson_Mandela
12/01/19 4:16:52 PM
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Most Important Website/App of the 2010s*: Google Maps
Runners Up: Tinder, Amazon (Prime), Netflix, Twitter, Uber

When I was originally conceiving this topic, I was trying to think of the things that we'll characterize this decade the most when we're older. The 90s was the dawn of the Internet. The 2000s saw the advent and global takeover of social media. And the 2010s, more than anything else, was transformed by smartphones + streaming technology. There is no singular invention or person who is responsible for this. But, like Jakyl mentioned before, the combination of smartphones and streaming has undoubtedly changed our collective lives more than anything else in the past 10 years. So with that being said, here are the websites and apps that have had the most profound changes on us.

Let's begin with the runners up briefly. Although there are other dating apps out there, the explosion in Tinder popularity has probably had the most tangible effect on the world out of all of these. By that I mean I am willing to bet that hundreds of thousands of people will be born because of this app. What's more, Tinder may have completely shifted the socio-biological paradigm of mankind itself! Ten years ago, asocial people had few options to find mates--and now, you can pretty much have sex at the swipe of a thumb. It's still to be seen how profound of an impact this really has on people who would have probably gone out and found someone otherwise (vs people who consistently strike out on online dating), so it only gets a runner up for now.

For the rest, you respectively have a service that is the pinnacle of instant gratification that companies are still struggling to keep up with; an app that completely transformed the entertainment industry more than anything since iTunes or Napster; an app that is responsible for your 45th president and a number of protests/revolutions; and an app that employs millions of people and turned the service industry pay structure on its head.

But when I think about how fundamentally different my life is from 2009 to now, there is one function that stands above the rest: Google Maps. Before Google Maps found a home on smart phones, the world was a completely different place. You had to interact with people for directions. You could discover new places and things that were "underground" and exclusive. You could get lost.

Google Maps is emblematic of everything good and bad about the 2010s. We have the ultimately convenience at our fingertips that also robs us of our autonomy. We have something that can get us anywhere, but also ruins all of the places/sights/events/sub-cultures that were once out of mainstream and special to those who could find it. It's the height of global inter-connectivity, for better or worse. I will remember the 2000s for when I first got my driver's license and driving around aimlessly with my friends, discovering new things and being free. I will remember the 2010s for those same friends dropping me their location pin and me pressing a button for a car to take me there.

*Besides GameFAQs.com
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Jakyl25
12/01/19 8:42:26 PM
#213:


Is Google Maps really that much of a leap over GPS devices in cars pre-smartphones? 100% more convenient, sure, but ultimately the same function.
(Also jeez talk about a tech device with a small historical window.)

I give it to Twitter
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Jakyl25
12/01/19 8:44:24 PM
#214:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Ten years ago, asocial people had few options to find mates--and now, you can pretty much have sex at the swipe of a thumb


Also dont let the Incels hear you say this
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Nelson_Mandela
12/01/19 9:04:01 PM
#215:


Jakyl25 posted...
Is Google Maps really that much of a leap over GPS devices in cars pre-smartphones? 100% more convenient, sure, but ultimately the same function.
(Also jeez talk about a tech device with a small historical window.)

I give it to Twitter

I think they are. It could be city-bias on my part, but Google maps is more than just a GPS service. It lets you find random bars, cross into areas you'd otherwise never go to. And most importantly, the satellite work Google has done in the past 10 years has essentially made everything in the US mapped out.
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Jakyl25
12/01/19 9:27:14 PM
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Honestly I have never used it for anything other than a GPS

Also the street I live on was never mapped by a Google Car lol
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Nelson_Mandela
12/02/19 9:27:27 PM
#217:


Maybe it's more symbolic to me. I dunno.
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Nelson_Mandela
12/04/19 2:10:38 PM
#218:


Biggest Event and Person of the Decade sometime today/tomorrow

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Nelson_Mandela
12/05/19 12:22:41 PM
#219:


Biggest Moment/Event of the 2010s: Donald Trump wins the 2016 presidential election
Runners Up: Brexit vote results, Death of Osama bin Laden, Tohuku earthquake/Fukushima nuclear disaster, Obergefell v. Hodges decision

Every decade has at least one moment that everyone will remember exactly where they were when it happened. Some are tragic events like 9/11 in the 2000s, some are triumphs like the moon landing in the 1960s, while others are moments that just feel like a culture-defining culmination--like the OJ Simpson verdict in the 1990s. The election of President Trump is basically all three of those things wrapped into one.

I can't think of anything else that happened this decade that really comes close to that universal "holy shit" moment when we realized that Trump was going to defeat Hillary. We had months and months of completely insane campaign moments, times when his candidacy felt dead and buried and Hillary was going to make herstory. Everyone in the media told us it was a foregone conclusion. Every Hillary supporter was smugly coming to work that day wearing "my president is a GIRL" shirts, high-fiving each other and thanking the heavens that the GOP voters nominated the most uncouth presidential candidate of all time.

I remember having the news playing at home in the background that night. I was so angry from the primary that I didn't care what happened; and like everyone except for red sox and ulti, I just assumed that Hillary was going to win. All that mattered was holding the senate. I had CNN on because the FoxNews app wasn't streaming to chromecast correctly. And I am glad I did. Because the results came rolling in, and the media started to have a collective meltdown.

Florida and North Carolina went to Trump. Okay, I thought. I guess it'll be closer, but those are really just red states that Obama carried unexpectedly. Then Ohio results came in and Trump was up by like ten points. Holy fuck, if things stay like this... he might actually have a chance. Then Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin were all trending red, and everyone started to realize it was over. We were living through the single greatest political upset in the history of the United States.

I still remember my subway ride to work the next day. I live in a particularly liberal part of Brooklyn, and you would have thought someone nuked the city. Half the people must have called in sick. Those who went in were dead silent, shell-shocked as they hung their heads and moved on with their lives knowing that Donald Trump was the President Elect.

There were countless post mortems following this day, but it can't be understated how momentous that election was. That is not to say President Trump is transforming the nation or that he'll have a policy impact to the scale of FDR or Lincoln. The change isn't in the result itself, but how we perceive politics and how we perceive the media. His election was a stark reminder that the Internet and social media are not indicative of the feelings of the nation. It was a reminder that the media is and has always been more about their own perception than a reflection of reality. And it was a turning point in American discourse and politics--that a man who campaigned on being an outsider draining the swamp is actually what the people wanted. And we're still dealing with those repercussions today.

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Nelson_Mandela
12/05/19 1:01:58 PM
#220:


What was that "you'll always remember where you were" moment for you?

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Jakyl25
12/05/19 1:43:31 PM
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Hmm tough to think of an impactful moment of the 2010s where it was out of the blue and not something I was actually planning on watching.

Like the Trump win, of course I did not expect it, but the election night results in general were appointment viewing so of course I was already watching TV

The death of Macho Man Randy Savage is mine, I think

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Nelson_Mandela
12/05/19 1:48:02 PM
#222:


Jakyl25 posted...
The death of Macho Man Randy Savage is mine, I think
Solid runner up

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Jakyl25
12/05/19 1:52:30 PM
#223:


I do also remember where I was when I heard the Obergefell decision and got really emotional

The death of Bin Laden is always doubly remembered by wrestling fans because The Rock tweeted about it before it was announced, and because it happened during a WWE PPV so they had John Cena come out and tell the crowd about it in a very awkward way to maintain a PG rating. (Osama Bin Laden has been compromised to a permanent end!)

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Nelson_Mandela
12/05/19 1:59:35 PM
#224:


Jakyl25 posted...
I do also remember where I was when I heard the Obergefell decision and got really emotional

The death of Bin Laden is always doubly remembered by wrestling fans because The Rock tweeted about it before it was announced, and because it happened during a WWE PPV so they had John Cena come out and tell the crowd about it in a very awkward way to maintain a PG rating. (Osama Bin Laden has been compromised to a permanent end!)
Both of those were wild to be a part of in NY. The Village after Obergefell was a total bacchanalia, and I remember people flocking to the WTC spontaneously to celebrate after Bin Laden was killed (which I found grotesque, but it was still a unique moment).

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Jakyl25
12/05/19 2:03:11 PM
#225:


Yeah the idea of celebrating a death, even a murderer like him, felt weird to me.

Like I understand feelings of relief and pride in the military but not feelings of PARTY TIME

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MetalmindStats
12/06/19 1:42:22 AM
#226:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
We were living through the single greatest political upset in the history of the United States.
In terms of presidential elections alone, I'd like to hear the argument for Truman > Dewey 1948 not being ahead of 2016. No one paid enough attention to 538 giving Trump a 30% chance of winning, or the public sentiment in general - much like 1948, actually, down to the populist candidate being the one who scored the upset over the stiff and unrelatable establishment figure.

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Mr Lasastryke
12/06/19 1:47:32 AM
#227:


i didn't think trump's win was THAT surprising tbqh. hillary still won the popular vote. and while, during the campaign, there were a lot of people on "the internet" who hated trump (board 8), there were also a ton who loved him to death (r/the_donald). don't get me wrong, it was definitely an upset and i certainly didn't predict it, but i wasn't like "HOLY FUCK HOW IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE."

i guess the most surprising thing for me was that the polls were so wrong. it was like a gamefaqs contest match where the x-stats prediction was off by like 60% or something.

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LordoftheMorons
12/06/19 2:45:54 AM
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The polls werent that wrong (national polls, at least). They were like Hillary +3 and she got +2, and 538 gave Trump a 30% chance of winning. It came as a shock because many people (including most pundits) thought that it was impossible that America would elect a man so obviously unqualified on every level.

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Seginustemple
12/06/19 4:25:12 AM
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Trump winning is far and away the biggest event/moment but I'll shoutout Occupy Wall Street, Disney buying Star Wars, the deaths of Harambe, Prince, and Bowie, and the Falcons blowing a 28-3 lead at the half
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SeabassDebeste
12/06/19 7:59:52 AM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
it was impossible that America would elect a man so obviously unqualified on every level.
yeah the shock from trump is mostly this. a meme is the president. it's not necessarily all about the upset likelihood.

and yeah hard to pick another bigger moment of the decade, globally speaking.

in the world of sports, shoutout to the decision. defined the future of the NBA.

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Nelson_Mandela
12/06/19 8:35:52 AM
#231:


Seginustemple posted...
Occupy Wall Street
Oh man I actually forgot about this--and my office was "occupied" at one point!

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Nelson_Mandela
12/08/19 12:05:56 PM
#232:


Person of the 2010s: Mitch McConnell
Runners Up: Vladimir Putin, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, Jeff Bezos, Xi Jinping

Much like Time Magazine's award of the same name, the person of the decade is not about who is the "greatest" man or woman of the last ten years. Instead, it's about power, global influence, and importance in shaping how the world looked in the 2010s. And, in an unexpected turn of events, that person happens to be the most important and powerful member of the United States Senate in history. That man is none other than "Cocaine" Mitch McConnell.

For those who may not keep up with current events, let me sum up the past decade for you. Barack Obama was a year into his first term. Promises of hope and change were still persisting, and it seemed like the US was poised for a big shift in policy. The politics guys can probably debate this endlessly, but for that first momentous policy initiative, Obama essentially chose an issue that would (in my opinion) neuter his presidency: health care reform. The Democrats had a supermajority going into 2010 and eventually passed their signature legislation in the form of Obamacare. But the reaction was swift. The "Tea Party" was formed, a grassroots Republican movement began, and the GOP took back Congress in the biggest House swing since 1948. And this is where McConnell comes in.

Although the GOP didn't take the Senate quite yet, the damage was done. McConnell immediately took a hardline approach as minority leader, doing whatever it took to stifle any further ambitions of Obama and the Dems. And when he became majority leader a few years later, this reached a whole new order of magnitude. Anything and everything had to go through him. This included the most Machiavellian move of our lifetime in blocking the appointment of Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court, which would have shifted the Court left for the first time in 40 years. All of this in a year that Trump was supposed to lose the election, opening the door for Hillary Clinton to appoint someone more liberal than Garland.

Mitch's gamble paid off in dividends. It got conservatives to hold their noses and vote for Trump, likely swinging the entire election in his favor. It allowed Trump to appoint his own justices and reshape the federal court system in McConnell's image. And now, as it appears that President Trump is going to be impeached, Mitch will make his final act of the decade ensuring a speedy acquittal.

Again, this is not to say that McConnell is a great person for how he wields his power. I am trying to illustrate just how consequential this one man's actions are. He effectively nullified a two-term presidency. He helped ensure the election of another. He fundamentally transformed the court system in the most powerful nation on earth. And, perhaps most importantly, he forever added to the partisan divide in both the legislative bodies themselves and amongst the general populace.

Many of us will look back on the 2010s as a time of political strife and animus more than anything else. Sports became politicized. The best of music, TV, and film reflected this tension. Our connection to mobile devices and apps allowed us all to stay abreast of current events in real time, with a constant bombardment of news at our fingertips. The most important events of the 2010s were shocking and sudden political changes. And the man who made politics top of mind and partisanship so raw and contentious was a previously unknown senator from Kentucky. For better or worse, Mitch McConnell was the most important figure of the 2010s, and I think the upcoming impeachment trial will be a fitting bow on his momentous decade.

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Nelson_Mandela
12/08/19 12:06:09 PM
#233:


@red_sox_777

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Jakyl25
12/08/19 12:23:38 PM
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Not sure that Obama warrants an honorable mention on par with the rest of those.
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Nelson_Mandela
12/08/19 12:42:36 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Not sure that Obama warrants an honorable mention on par with the rest of those.
He was president for seven-tenths of the decade and probably means more to the black community than any person since MLK. Can't negate his general cultural impact even if he didn't really accomplish much in terms of policy.

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red sox 777
12/08/19 2:34:38 PM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
The polls werent that wrong (national polls, at least). They were like Hillary +3 and she got +2, and 538 gave Trump a 30% chance of winning. It came as a shock because many people (including most pundits) thought that it was impossible that America would elect a man so obviously unqualified on every level.

Yeah, this is true. The polls were pretty close. People were just willfully blind to the fact that Hillary needed +3 to win, not 0 + 1 vote

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