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COVxy
11/08/19 8:56:02 AM
#53:


averagejoel posted...
COVxy posted...
That's a weird analogy lol

you compared this topic to

people who only post topics about muslims blowing shit up.


my analogy is being overly generous to you, since this topic wasn't propaganda in the first place.


I give context when posters are posting clearly factual articles for biased purposes.

That's all I meant. Your analogy has a bunch of weird components to it.
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averagejoel
11/08/19 8:59:06 AM
#54:


COVxy posted...
averagejoel posted...
COVxy posted...
That's a weird analogy lol

you compared this topic to

people who only post topics about muslims blowing shit up.


my analogy is being overly generous to you, since this topic wasn't propaganda in the first place.


I give context when posters are posting clearly factual articles for biased purposes.

That's all I meant. Your analogy has a bunch of weird components to it.

maybe stick to the topics where the bias is against marginalized people rather than the people abusing them, yeah?
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COVxy
11/08/19 9:01:23 AM
#55:


Or maybe feel comfortable telling the truth even when you think it undermines your goals?
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COVxy
11/08/19 9:03:32 AM
#56:


Your brand of bullshit is toxic to progress.

Actually try to tell the truth, don't just make up facts that guide certain action.

People really latch on to the things you say as examples for why left ideals are not based in reality.
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averagejoel
11/08/19 9:17:05 AM
#57:


again, weird idea to bring up in this topic dude
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
11/08/19 9:19:45 AM
#58:


I kinda skimmed the article.

Did this guy put his daughter in a group home because she was autistic?

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MrMallard
11/08/19 9:30:04 AM
#59:


MrMallard posted...
COVxy posted...
Isolation rooms can be quite necessary for kids with severe autism.

Obviously not in this case, where the condition of freedom is for an autistic person to be silent in a situation where this would not be a possible outcome for that person in that environment.

No-one's calling for the death of isolation rooms, but in this case it was uncalled for and it further agitated a person who had no business being confined like that.

Can you address this @COVxy?
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COVxy
11/08/19 9:34:26 AM
#60:


MrMallard posted...
MrMallard posted...
COVxy posted...
Isolation rooms can be quite necessary for kids with severe autism.

Obviously not in this case, where the condition of freedom is for an autistic person to be silent in a situation where this would not be a possible outcome for that person in that environment.

No-one's calling for the death of isolation rooms, but in this case it was uncalled for and it further agitated a person who had no business being confined like that.

Can you address this @COVxy?


TC is.
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averagejoel
11/08/19 9:41:01 AM
#61:


COVxy posted...
MrMallard posted...
MrMallard posted...
COVxy posted...
Isolation rooms can be quite necessary for kids with severe autism.

Obviously not in this case, where the condition of freedom is for an autistic person to be silent in a situation where this would not be a possible outcome for that person in that environment.

No-one's calling for the death of isolation rooms, but in this case it was uncalled for and it further agitated a person who had no business being confined like that.

Can you address this @COVxy?


TC is.

maybe try addressing the whole point instead of only the part you bolded
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COVxy
11/08/19 11:10:00 AM
#62:


Already addressed the other point. Already said they can be abused (as it seems in this case).
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Ryuko_Chan
11/08/19 4:22:35 PM
#63:


Really hoping this dude only plays a doctor on CE
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
11/08/19 4:25:05 PM
#64:


COVxy pretty much just trolls as he always did. He changes his "career" depending on the topic

Ya'll need to add him to the ignore list

He's a doctor in this one.
A week ago he was a physicist
Two months ago he was some accountant for the past six months

It's fun really watching his story change
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King_Hutton
11/08/19 4:29:55 PM
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Conflict posted...
I've never seen COVxy claim to be an accountant

Ive never seen Brutal be honest when talking about other posters
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Polycosm
11/08/19 4:32:46 PM
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Shades of Willowbrook...
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COVxy
11/08/19 4:39:21 PM
#68:


Never claimed to be anything I'm not lol.

Only "changes" in career you've seen are normal transitions in the career of a scientist.
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averagejoel
11/08/19 4:50:48 PM
#69:


RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
COVxy pretty much just trolls as he always did. He changes his "career" depending on the topic

Ya'll need to add him to the ignore list

He's a doctor in this one.
A week ago he was a physicist
Two months ago he was some accountant for the past six months

It's fun really watching his story change

he's actually a pretty good poster outside of this particular subject
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MrMallard
11/08/19 5:06:59 PM
#70:


COVxy posted...
TC is.

Okay, but you came into this topic swinging with "isolation rooms are occasionally necessary" in response to "this autistic person was held in an isolation room against their will until they calmed down, with their behavior being exacerbated by the conditions for 9 hours, instead of being treated in a way that would have helped them". No opinion on the abuse right out of the gate, just "these rooms are actually good though" with no regards for the scenario depicted in the OP, well before TC had the chance to supposedly call for the death of isolation rooms as a whole or whatever you're getting at.

It's no different from going into a topic about a parent mistaking their kid as an armed intruder and shooting them in the middle of the night, and going "well having guns is a good thing because it lets people defend themselves" without addressing the fact that someone just shot their son or daughter. OP didn't come out of the gate saying that tactful, respectful isolation is barbaric, you came in here with an obtuse comment about how isolation isn't a bad thing without addressing the situation in the OP. It was used poorly, and an obtuse blanket support of them without acknowledging the abuse in the OP is incredibly tactless of you.

No-one was debating that isolation can be a beneficial treatment for people suffering from sensory overload or what have you, but your initial comment came across as "this is unequivocally good" in the face of a medical professional confining an autistic person to isolation until they were chewing in the door frame to get out.

What a shitty take, Jesus fucking Christ.
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COVxy
11/08/19 5:08:46 PM
#71:


I mean, do we have to continuously disregard a posters previous posting history everytime we enter a new topic or something?

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MrMallard
11/08/19 5:35:00 PM
#72:


Yeah, I'm done with the derails. No-one else seems to have any respect for you, so if my points aren't doing any good or generating an earnest discussion, I think I'm going to follow suit.

To respond to your post here, though, your initial point wasn't tied to TC's posting history. It was an obtuse comment meant to troll. If your primary concern was TC's credibility, you probably would have brought it up in your first post. Instead you started with "isolation is good" in response to a situation where it was applied incorrectly to the detriment of an autistic person, and shifted your stance to "people are using this article to attack isolation treatment in the same way that PETA misrepresents facts to attack pet-owners and farmers and what have you". Like PETA making a fake sheep carcass to protest sheep shearing is at all comparable to a medical professional being an incompetent cockhead and locking someone away when other forms of treatment would have been much better.

You've only maintained that it's everyone else being shitty since the start of the thread, and further derailed the topic by doubling down on every other comment. There's no respect coming from you, so why bother treating your stance with any respect?
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COVxy
11/08/19 5:39:20 PM
#73:


MrMallard posted...
Like PETA making a fake sheep carcass to protest sheep shearing


Uh, PETA aquires images from real research labs and posts them to discredit animal research.

It just so happens that the flip through the thousands they gather and pick out the ones that they see are the most grusome. The analogy is identical. Selective presentation of factual information to sway public opinion when it's unlikely that people will see the context.

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EverDownward
11/08/19 5:41:26 PM
#74:


There's a place up in New York that caught heavy, heavy flak after a reporter did an expose on them for their barbaric treatment of special needs kids.

I can't remember the name of the place, nor of the reporter, but the shit that was filmed there was absolutely gruesome.
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COVxy
11/08/19 5:47:10 PM
#75:


And you're right, I have no respect for people who use the internet as a means to mislead others into believing their viewpoint. Averagejoel, for instance, while we often agree on the conclusions made, often just pulls "facts" out of his ass to support such conclusions. No, I don't have respect for that.

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COVxy
11/08/19 5:56:33 PM
#76:


TC has pretended to be trans in order to pretend to detransition and make people believe that transition is a mistake for trans people.

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MrMallard
11/08/19 5:58:59 PM
#77:


If you've got receipts, show 'em. Otherwise, ok covxy
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King_Hutton
11/08/19 6:26:37 PM
#78:


I dont know about COVxys claim about TC regarding isolation rooms and autistic people, but I can confirm that TC has definitely flip flopped about being trans and then blamed trans people for manipulating him into transitioning because hes autistic - despite making numerous topics here about being excited to transition in the future and never speaking about actually going through anything. Last time I saw he talk about that he was claiming to have gotten breast implants.

I definitely dont see TC as a good faith poster, and its also definitely a bad look to start talking in favor of isolation rooms in response to this news, but COVxy is being honest when he says he calls people out for trying to be misleading over the long term.
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MrMallard
11/08/19 6:49:17 PM
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Aight, good to know. I was in the dark on that, and you can see that I've had my reservations with COvxy so far through this thread.
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