Board 8 > Hearthstone Discussion Topic #2 - Descent of Dragons (Enter The Galakrond)

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Forceful_Dragon
11/02/19 10:39:45 PM
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This is the topic for Hearthstone discussion.

A new expansion was just announced:
https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/cards?set=descent-of-dragons

First female Hearthstone champion, VKLiooon:
https://www.shacknews.com/article/114768/vkliooon-becomes-first-woman-to-win-hearthstone-world-championship

And here's the hearthstone page from the b8 wikia:
https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Hearthstone

The wikia page has not been updated in some time. Add yourself to the list if you aren't on it. I'm not really sure how that works.
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Forceful_Dragon
11/02/19 10:44:42 PM
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And tags for people who posted on page 10 of the last topic.

@VeryInsane
@SaveEstelle
@metroid_composite
@Camden
@Wedge_Antilles
@NewerShadow
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Forceful_Dragon
11/02/19 10:44:53 PM
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GANON1025
11/02/19 11:00:28 PM
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Well, I DO like Dragons and Hero Cards, so maybe this will be a cool expansion??
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SaintAkira7
11/02/19 11:02:41 PM
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Just wanted to mention in case it's not clear to anyone (it wasn't clear to me at first either), how the Invoke mechanic works. It's very C'Thun-like, for those that have been around long enough; you play a card with Invoke on it, and it goes toward buffing whatever battlecry your Galakrond has, but it also triggers the hero power of said Galakrond.

So, for the Warlock version, when you play an Invoke card, you'll get a credit towards buffing the battlecry of the Warlock Galakrond (summon 1 random demon) and summon 2 1/1 imps. The priest version adds a (random) priest minion to your hand and iirc, the rogue version adds a lackey to your hand.

Just wanted to throw this out there, as that knowledge tends to help in evaluating the Invoke cards, which on their face value may not look that great, but when taking the hero power that will trigger with it into consideration, it may (or may not) become a markedly better card.

It wasn't apparent to me at first (I may just be dense >_<), so maybe this will help make it clearer to anyone else who didn't glean this knowledge initially.

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Camden
11/02/19 11:58:35 PM
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Does anyone know if you can have multiple sidequests in play at the same time, or more importantly, if you can have a sidequest in play with a regular quest?

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metroid composite
11/03/19 2:58:05 AM
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SaintAkira7 posted...
Just wanted to throw this out there, as that knowledge tends to help in evaluating the Invoke cards, which on their face value may not look that great, but when taking the hero power that will trigger with it into consideration, it may (or may not) become a markedly better card.

That part made sense to me yeah.

However...almost all the invoke cards still look bad to me.

Like...C'Thun cards were good bodies for the card. 2 mana 2/3. 4 mana 4/2 divine shield. etc. They were still vanilla minions, and ultimately most decks don't want vanilla minions. But cost-wise they were ok.

By comparison, the invoke cards tend to be stupid expensive. Like...4 mana 2/2 rush. 3 mana 1/1 gain +1 attack for each other friendly minion. 1 mana spell, give a minion +1 attack.

These cards are really bad if you don't draw Galakrond. And like...sure, the C'Thun cards were also underwhelming if you didn't draw C'Thun, but there's a difference between running a River Crocolisk (Beckoner of Evil), and running a card that wishes it was as good as Magma Rager (Dragonblight Cultist).
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LiquidOshawott
11/03/19 7:29:37 AM
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I feel like with the hero power involved dragonblight cultist is closer to Microtech Controller than Magma Rager.

Heres what we know

Rogue: Get a Lackey
Warlock: Summon two 1/1 Imps
Priest: Get a random Priest Minion


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SaintAkira7
11/03/19 11:54:16 AM
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The class epic ones seem okay.

Warlock Veiled Worshipper is a 4 mana 5/4 draw 3 if you've invoked twice (probably unlikely on turn 4?) Comparable to just your regular vanilla statted minion.

And the Rogue epic Umbral Skulker which is also 4 mana but a 3/3 add three coins to your hand if you've invoked twice (again, unlikely on 4 question mark).

Shield of Galakrond is 5 mana 4/5 Taunt, Invoke. Which is also on par with a vanilla minion.

But, as MC pointed out, most decks aren't that interested in vanilla minions. So, does adding a lackey to hand/putting two 1/1s in play make up for the vanilla stats? Idk. Just from what we've seen I'm thinking the Dragon synergies are stronger comparatively. But I think Galakrond is a mulligan keep, and how soon it's been properly invoked to create a large enough swing turn will determine when it can be played.

I like the concept. It'll be interesting to see how Invoke stacks up against quests/Dragon stuff power-wise; I think the simple fact that quests start in your hand and there's even a possibility that Galakrond can be buried at the bottom of your deck tips the scales considerably in Quests favor. Now, if they print a Galakrond tutor....

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BlackDra90n
11/03/19 2:12:12 PM
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I'm just glad to see more dragons.
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metroid composite
11/03/19 4:02:33 PM
#11:


LiquidOshawott posted...
I feel like with the hero power involved dragonblight cultist is closer to Microtech Controller than Magma Rager.

Ah, ok I did misunderstand. I thought that before you drew Galakrond that it just upgraded Galakrond's battlecry, and after you played Galakrond it activated Galakrond's hero power. But it also activates Galakrond's hero power before you play Galakrond as well.

Yeah, that makes a lot more sense.
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azuarc
11/03/19 5:14:30 PM
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Holy crap, I had no idea the world championships were even happening, let alone that a woman was in them.
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azuarc
11/06/19 7:38:23 PM
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I bought a pre-order for basically the first time in Hearthstone because I wasn't earning much gold this expansion and the next one looks bonkers.

Went 2nd, 8th, 2nd, and 4th in Battlegrounds. Last game was interesting because I bought that two of that dude who damages you and gets +2 each time you summon a demon, and ultimately I lost because my health was at 1 and I couldn't develop my board any further.
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Forceful_Dragon
11/06/19 7:54:08 PM
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I haven't pulled the trigger on the expansion...yet
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Camden
11/06/19 7:56:08 PM
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I'm pretty sure watching everyone else play battlegrounds will completely burn me out on the mode before I even get access to it.

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azuarc
11/07/19 2:40:32 AM
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Camden posted...
I'm pretty sure watching everyone else play battlegrounds will completely burn me out on the mode before I even get access to it.

More than likely. I felt like I already had a feel for it before I tried it. But having not played an auto-battler myself, actually playing well isn't as easy as it looks when you're backseat gaming with a streamer. Some rounds are easy and others I dawdle too much and don't manage to complete my actions before the clock runs out.

Finished 8th, 6th, and then 1st today. The 1st was playing as Patchwerk. I used the same strategy I mentioned the other night, with two of the dude who buffs by +2 with every demon played, except I had 20 more health and eventually I picked up Mal'Ganis to negate the damage I was taking. Between two of them, two Amalgams, and the ability to dedicate my money to the one open slot on my board and just purchasing buff after buff, I was able to outmuscle the other people in the game. It helped that nobody had an especially good build with poisonous on board.
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metroid composite
11/08/19 11:16:19 AM
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GOD DAMN IT KIBLER

https://old.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/dt02vb/launching_my_new_fragrance_line/
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azuarc
11/08/19 4:11:29 PM
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omg, that's amazing
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Forceful_Dragon
11/08/19 5:21:55 PM
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Deryl: 4th
Curator: 6th
Mukla: 2nd
AFKay: 3rd
Toki: 3rd

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I was lucky and got access to the new mode from a Twitch drop when I wss watching J4ckieChan playing at work today. Those are my results so far, it's a lot of fun. Unfortunately I only get to pick between 2 heroes instead of 3 because of not having preordered yet.
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Forceful_Dragon
11/08/19 6:56:26 PM
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Millicent: 3rd
AFKay: 6th*
Nefarian: 1st

*I wasn't prepared for the garbage controls where when you click a card it stays lifted and selected so I accidentally sold the 4 star minion I got on turn 3 from AFKay's ability.
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Forceful_Dragon
11/10/19 2:53:23 AM
#21:


Patchwork: 2nd
Bartendotron: 4th
Bartendotron: 7th
Giantfin: 8th (lol murlocs)
Giantfin: 4th
Toki: 1st
Bartendotron: 1st

Doing well!
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Forceful_Dragon
11/10/19 5:09:56 PM
#22:


Am I the only one still playing the new mode?
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FFDragon
11/10/19 5:20:06 PM
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I am

(On Tuesday when it releases)
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LiquidOshawott
11/10/19 5:27:15 PM
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FFDragon posted...
I am

(On Tuesday when it releases)


Pretty much this, dont see myself getting a drop

this is Meta is bad too so it should shake it up

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GANON1025
11/10/19 5:52:44 PM
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I'm very interested in trying it out!
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Camden
11/10/19 5:58:15 PM
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I had a stream running pretty much 24/7 until this morning and never got a drop, or at least not for this. I somehow managed to get an Exclusive Jackal Operator Set for Rainbow Six Siege? Not sure how I managed that.

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Forceful_Dragon
11/10/19 11:55:59 PM
#27:


Millicent: 5th
Curator: 1st
Rat King: 3rd (I was at 1 health for like 6 rounds)
Shudderwock: 7th
Mukla: 2nd
AFKay: 6th
George: 3rd
Juraxxus: 6th (accidentally skipped turn 1 by hitting hero power)
Millicent: 4th
Patchwork: 1st
George: 5th
Putricide: 4th
AFKay: 1st
Bartendotron: 2nd

Another really solid day. I'm. I'm sitting around 5300 MMR but my average placing seems solid enough that I could probably crack top 200
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Forceful_Dragon
11/11/19 3:28:12 AM
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Bah I had my worst result in awhile in a match with asmodai. I was rat king trying to hit a triple on my four pairs so I could go for a mama bear but kept whiffing.
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azuarc
11/11/19 7:57:54 AM
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Triple chasing is the worst sometimes.
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Forceful_Dragon
11/11/19 3:14:04 PM
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No one else I saw that game was going beasts so there should have been plenty in the pool to find another. But I saw at least 3 with strong mech builds so I made the decision to commit to a beast line.

The shared pool of cards makes it awkward, but I think I made the right call.
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metroid composite
11/12/19 3:13:54 AM
#31:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Am I the only one still playing the new mode?

I mean, I don't think I can access it yet? Need to preorder for early access (which I haven't done).
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Camden
11/12/19 12:42:09 PM
#32:


It should go into open beta some time today, unless they've pushed the date back.

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FFDragon
11/12/19 1:49:02 PM
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One shot, one kill.

Using a... Gallywix... demon build?

I know I was up against other new people but still feels good man.
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FFDragon
11/12/19 2:19:23 PM
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Two shots, two kills.

Double Golden Junkbot Manastorm is a chest code.

Packs were trash though.
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Forceful_Dragon
11/12/19 3:25:20 PM
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I've been having a decent day as well. Still hovering around 5300 mmr
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FFDragon
11/12/19 3:32:42 PM
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Third run was Pyramad or Patches.

Pyramad is hot garbage, but I can't imagine Patches would have been any better.
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Camden
11/12/19 4:05:36 PM
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7th and 2nd on my first two runs.

Is there a turn limit? The run where I came 2nd was down to a 1v1 situation and we went something like twelve rounds before my rng betrayed me and left his two Junkbots on the board until the very end.

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VeryInsane
11/12/19 4:58:28 PM
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2nd, 1st, 1st so far

Murloc dude, Nef, Millificent, the last one was super close too

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Forceful_Dragon
11/12/19 5:17:28 PM
#39:


FFDragon posted...
Third run was Pyramad or Patches.

Pyramad is hot garbage, but I can't imagine Patches would have been any better.


Patches is "pray you remove two divine shields" which imo is better than pyramad. Divine shields and poison are such a huge part of end game. It's honestly just a shitty version of nefarion, but still more of a late game upside than expensive extra health.

Camden posted...
7th and 2nd on my first two runs.

Is there a turn limit? The run where I came 2nd was down to a 1v1 situation and we went something like twelve rounds before my rng betrayed me and left his two Junkbots on the board until the very end.


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azuarc
11/12/19 9:02:02 PM
#40:


Everyone says this and that about a shared pool, but is it really shared? And if so, can anyone explain how the pool actually works?
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metroid composite
11/12/19 9:44:02 PM
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I played on the mobile client, so I crashed a lot, missed some turns, and generally finished around 4th.
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Camden
11/12/19 10:31:44 PM
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azuarc posted...
Everyone says this and that about a shared pool, but is it really shared? And if so, can anyone explain how the pool actually works?


From Mike Donais...

Higher tavern tier gives you access to higher tier minions. There are 18 copies of each tier 1 minion and 15 copies of each tier 2 minion (and 13,11,9,6).
All the copies of all minions on your tier or less are thrown into a pool and you get one randomly from that pool. If someone else buys one and is still alive then you have less chance of getting it because it isn't in that pool.
There are no other multipliers, its just those numbers.

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Camden
11/12/19 11:10:04 PM
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7th
2nd
3rd
7th
3rd
2nd
2nd

I'm apparently allergic to every other placement. I'm apparently also incredibly attracted to Ragnaros, seeing as I only get to pick between two heroes and he's been one of my two in six of my seven runs. Also, am I crazy or did Ragnaros get a buff in the latest patch to do 8x2 instead of 4x2?

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Forceful_Dragon
11/13/19 12:34:47 AM
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Pretty sure it was 8 before. I never pick him though.

I'm finishing up about 100 mmr today. Just about 5400. I've had some significant revelations about timing level ups and engineering timely power spikes. I'm also trying to play in a way to consistently finish top 4 even if it lessens my chance for actual 1st.

And Deryl is freaking op. The dance is difficult but oh so good.
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Forceful_Dragon
11/13/19 1:51:11 AM
#45:


16 rounds today. Top 4 11 times.
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Camden
11/13/19 2:44:28 PM
#46:


The brawl this week seems kind of fucked right now. The main screen is bugged and doesn't show you your wins and losses, and I'm quite certain my run just ended at 6-2.

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Camden
11/13/19 5:15:52 PM
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The last battlegrounds match was my first win. I was down to just 1 HP with a demon build because I had the guy who damages you whenever you play a demon, but my board was pretty ridiculous at that point and my opponent had no poison to clear out my stronger minions. I was pretty much 100% certain I had the win locked up no matter what he did on his final turn.

Oh, did I say I won? Haha no, you see, I didn't realize the guy who gets a health buff for every damage you've taken this run is a demon, so with my last three gold I bought him and killed myself.

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Forceful_Dragon
11/13/19 6:06:14 PM
#48:


That is awesome! And i love the battle master. He has great synergy with brann and he's my go to demon when I have a lightfanf setup for late game.

Foe Reaper + Cave Hydra + Amalgam + Murloc/Demon. With a lightfang and a brann and a flex spot to thrown down buffs on everything. Next to unstoppable.
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Forceful_Dragon
11/13/19 9:11:12 PM
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Wednesday:

Mukla: 1
Millificent: 1
Giantfin: 4
Akazam: 5
Bartendotron: 5
Patches: 6
Patchwerk: 3
Toki: 4
Deryl: 6
LichK: 1

Starting MMR: 5409
Current MMR: 5535

The climb is real today.
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Camden
11/13/19 9:27:14 PM
#50:


Americas
1st: 0
2nd: 6
3rd: 3
4th: 0
5th: 1
6th: 1
7th: 4
8th: 0

Europe
1st: 3
2nd: 0
3rd: 0
4th: 0
5th: 0
6th: 0
7th: 0
8th: 0

I guess I should just play on Europe for now?

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