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MegamanX
12/08/19 9:01:20 PM
#101:


Extreme Crisis spoilers round 3

Who in the world was the girl in blue?
I guess Guardians just dead?
THEY KILLED HIM IN EPISODE 1???? WHAT

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Grimlyn
12/08/19 11:38:33 PM
#102:


MegamanX posted...
Extreme Crisis spoilers round 3

Who in the world was the girl in blue?
I guess Guardians just dead?
THEY KILLED HIM IN EPISODE 1???? WHAT
  1. Referring to Dreamer? Supergirl S4 newcomer, and Arrowverse's sole trans hero.
  2. Not dead, just retired and uh returned to photojournalism I think? After CatCo is sold off and turned to a clickbait tabloid.
  3. .... YEAH WHAT THE HELL?!... THAT'S IT FOR EARTH-1 OLI?... IT FELT SO UNNECESSARY. The way it ended seems like that's really it for the main Ollie, I'm sure there's more of him in Crisis so I guess they'd be other Earths Olles but... not much of a way to go out for Ollie Prime...

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Snake5555555555
12/09/19 12:18:05 AM
#103:


what the hell. I was not expecting that at all.

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Snake5555555555
12/09/19 12:40:02 AM
#104:


Can't say it wasn't exciting though. If that was only the first ep, how insane is the rest gonna be?

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DoomTheGyarados
12/09/19 1:26:19 AM
#105:


F.

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TotallyNotMI
12/09/19 7:35:29 AM
#106:


I actually feel underwhelmed by the first episode of this crossover. Maybe I was just hyping it too much. Even the death felt anticlimactic. His injuries even happened off screen.

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bryans7
12/09/19 12:26:36 PM
#107:


TotallyNotMI posted...
I actually feel underwhelmed by the first episode of this crossover. Maybe I was just hyping it too much. Even the death felt anticlimactic. His injuries even happened off screen.

Felt the same, especially the big death. Also just feels weird that the first character of the Arrowverse -- that it's literally named after -- dies in part one of a crossover on an episode of Supergirl saving about a billion people from her Earth.

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Dancedreamer
12/09/19 1:17:00 PM
#108:


I was pretty impressed by the first episode. Especially considering the budget limits.

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MegamanX
12/09/19 8:16:15 PM
#109:


Crisis Episode 2 spoilers

"promised my crew we'd never have to do another crossover" lmao
So Paragon of Hope is Kara sure, Paragon of Destiny is Sara sure
Monitors a jerk, no idea whats happening to Harbinger
Dude literally brought back Lex to kill Superman lmao why
Lazarus pit for Oliver is an option I forgot about
I laughed hard at Waverider 74 having Captain Cold as the AI, and Heatwave using both guns

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MegamanX
12/09/19 9:01:51 PM
#110:


Crisis Episode 2 spoilers

Wonder why Kate took the kryptonite

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TotallyNotMI
12/09/19 9:43:29 PM
#111:


I liked that episode better.

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foolm0r0n
12/09/19 11:45:11 PM
#112:


Killing Oliver was great. He is always sacrificing himself anyway. They're trying to bring him back but I hope it doesn't quite work. I get that Arrowverse started with him but he had his peak last year already.

I haven't watched any of Batwoman and people say Ruby Rose is kinda dry but in these episodes she's really awesome.

Overall I'm really impressed with this so far. It feels like it has the same scope and caliber of events as something like Endgame, even though the budget is obviously microscopic in comparison. It's all pretty easy to follow too. Even if it's a bit confusing why Oliver has such an old daughter and why Lex Luthor is mexican. It's got a serious lack of the Flash though. But I'm guessing the majority of the next 3 episodes will deal with his part.

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Snake5555555555
12/10/19 12:59:25 AM
#113:


That was superb, all the Kingdom Come references, Kevin Conroy as Batman giving me the chills, Smallville, Constantine!

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Grimlyn
12/10/19 1:51:38 AM
#114:


Much better episode, I like how this event really feels like its own mini-season of its own show with this big cast of characters. Characters from old unrelated shows and stuff also working really well this ep. All these Supermen making for a good opportunity to get care about Arrowverse's Supes&Lois imo

Yeah Kate's great here, probably the most likeable of the showrunner namesakes (... Legends aren't named after Lance so). Also that ending Kate with the Kryptonite was such a Batman thing to do.

MegamanX posted...
Crisis Episode 2 spoilers

Wonder why Kate took the kryptonite
I doubt it was for something specific but a precautious "who knows" kinda thing, mirroring the classic Batman-Superman contingency.

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Snake5555555555
12/10/19 2:36:11 AM
#115:


Black Lightning's tie-in was excellently done too.

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MegamanX
12/10/19 2:59:15 AM
#116:


I'd say Ruby Rose is fine in Batwoman but the difference between her show and this crossover? She has other people to act off here, Batwoman has a pretty bad acting cast and bland cast.

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Dancedreamer
12/10/19 9:08:47 AM
#117:


Batwoman is fine, but the show could use a more imminent threat.

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Dancedreamer
12/10/19 9:04:58 PM
#118:


So the only people alive are....

Kara Danvers
Barry Allen
J'onn J'onzz
Kate Kane
Ryan Choi
Sara Lance
and Lex Luthor

January 14th is SO FAR AWAY

Although the preview said The eight of you so I'm not sure who that's including. Clark?

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MegamanX
12/10/19 9:14:55 PM
#119:


Crisis thoughts spoilers

Birds of prey lol
Imagine telling someone about an Arrowverse watching guide in 2019. Yeah you gotta go find the 1990s Flash tv show, make sure to watch the cancelled birds of prey show from the WB and dont forget to watch 4 seasons of Lucifer

Lucifer scenes great, I liked the one leaker who discussed it months ago and said "I'd call it a personal victory if a major studio threw out recorded footage and changed their plot just to prove me wrong"
The end with Lex writing his name over supermans symbol is outright hilarious
Diggle got no love in this crossover, sadness.
The spectre scene was so damn rushed it wasnt fun

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bryans7
12/10/19 9:26:53 PM
#120:


Best episode, seeing Jefferson interact with everyone, mostly Barry, was great. Ending was fantastic too. What a complete dick.

Agree that the Spectre stuff came out of nowhere, has he even been hinted at prior to this?

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Grimlyn
12/10/19 11:19:22 PM
#121:


man how the hell do I wait a month now

Also yeah lol that ending was hilarious . Even moreso when you remember Superman-96 was the Paragon of Truth

and Luci-Constantine is the interraction on my dreams <3, lol Earth-666. I don't think it really sunk in to Dig & Mia that they did just meet the devil tho.

Really good touch to for 90s Flash to go out with a flashback to old footage from the show, nicely deserved

Dancedreamer posted...
Although the preview said The eight of you so I'm not sure who that's including. Clark?
Specter Oliver?

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mnkboy907
12/10/19 11:43:43 PM
#123:


I'm watching a day behind, but so far Part 2 >> Part 1. The action and ending in Part 1 was just... eh. Part 2 was just all around fun. Haven't seen Black Lightning yet, curious what they're gonna do with it. I wonder if they're gonna end up making Jefferson one of the Paragons as the way to incorporate him into Crisis. I've read that he's supposed to be involved, but I don't know anything about the extent of it.

Okay well I guess the old spoiler tag doesn't work anymore lol.

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Dancedreamer
12/10/19 11:54:30 PM
#124:


Thoughts.... (I posted these on the TV board already)

"Heroes from across the multiverse" or.. you know, three different earths. 4 from Earth 1, 2 from Earth 38, and 1 from whatever Earth Superman Returns takes place in. Also all three not from earth 1 aren't human, while all four from Earth 1 ARE human.

I don't think Barry was supposed to disappear there. He's a Paragon, so they'll still need him anyway. I think Flash Disappears During Crisis is yet to happen.

Lucifer's Cameo was nice. I like how they've done most of the cameos.

Really hoping they're setting up a Black Lightning and Flash crossover for next season. I think a Batwoman Supergirl crossover is obvious at this point.

Even if they had brought Oliver back to life, it wouldn't have lasted very long.

A month is way too long to wait for the next part.

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Snake5555555555
12/11/19 12:00:39 AM
#125:


The rest of the crossover could be pure shite and it still would be A+ for Constantine/Lucifer alone.

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scarletspeed7
12/11/19 12:05:31 AM
#126:


The Arrowverse can end now.

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MegamanX
12/11/19 1:02:24 AM
#127:


Some of the leakers/insiders/crazy people are saying Black Lightning and Flash is supposed to replace the Barry/Oliver dynamic

I mean I saw Spectre was coming @bryans7 cause the casting was announced but in universe? lol nope nothing

This month wait feels like a crazy misstep, how many people are gonna pay attention then? Hard to say


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bryans7
12/11/19 2:06:58 AM
#128:



MegamanX posted...
I mean I saw Spectre was coming @bryans7 cause the casting was announced but in universe? lol nope nothing

Okay, I'm mostly ignorant of that stuff so I had no idea. I thought for a minute I might have forgotten something because it's really late in the game to suddenly drop in the Spectre with literally no buildup.


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Grimlyn
12/11/19 2:12:04 AM
#129:


hey he was in Constantine

... albeit with a different actor

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Snake5555555555
12/11/19 3:09:43 AM
#130:


I don't remember specifically but he mentions he's a different version of Jim right?

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ChichiriMuyo
12/11/19 5:36:10 AM
#131:


"Dude literally brought back Lex to kill Superman lmao why"

To find the one that was actually a paragon.

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foolm0r0n
12/12/19 12:53:16 AM
#132:


Black Lightning's new suit is badass

Yooooo that old school Flash cut in

A+ ending but do we really have to wait so long for more?

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scarletspeed7
12/12/19 1:24:21 AM
#133:


I have to assume they desperately need the time to finish editing.

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mnkboy907
12/13/19 12:02:51 AM
#134:


Got to watch part 3 and Black Lightning tonight.

Part 3 was more fun, though I don't get what the Spectre stuff was about. Presumably that'll be explained more in the next two parts or something. Seemed a bit rushed towards the end though. Also I can't help but find it weird how relevant Lyla has been in all this. She always seemed like such a secondary character on Arrow and now she's the Anti-Monitor.

Black Lightning I couldn't help but notice those events don't make sense for Earth 1 or 2, lol. Earth 2 didn't even survive until Crisis and Earth 1 it's only December 10th or something, not Christmas.

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Snake5555555555
12/13/19 12:07:59 AM
#135:


Black Lightning Earth-1/2 events could've been in the past I think. Then the stuff with all the Jen's in one place was just some weird subconscious thing. That's my best guess!

I don't find the Lyla stuff as weird since A. It's from the comics obv. and B. They've hinted at it since the Suicide Squad episode with her codename there.

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Grimlyn
12/13/19 12:18:24 AM
#136:


Crisis 3 yeah Lyla's simply playing the role of her comics namesake. but also the head of ARGUShas always been a role for sketchy characters.

Black Lightning "Earth 2" definitely seemed weird to me but I guess the idea of its events taking place in the past is possible. Kinda flew by me how it was so much clsoer to Christmas time though. Definitely the more detached tie-in for a reason lol and for that reason I just whatever'd the disparities

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ChichiriMuyo
12/13/19 12:18:27 AM
#137:


I do believe they've said from the beginning that they never intended for BL to really be a part of the universes of the other shows. I have no idea if that changed since I stopped watching BL, but I'm guessing it still holds true.

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Snake5555555555
12/13/19 12:22:59 AM
#138:


Another idea is that BL's Earth's 1 & 2 were unique to BL with their weird naming like Gen: Earth-1 and Jinn: Earth-2. I mean Smallville has its own Earth-2 as well which is a whole confusing bag of worms.

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mnkboy907
12/13/19 12:25:53 AM
#139:


Come to think of it, how do all the Earths just accept the numbers given to them? You'd think every Earth would try to call themselves Earth 1.

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Snake5555555555
12/13/19 12:27:14 AM
#140:


If I remember correctly, Harry Wells from Earth-2 said he considers "Earth-1" as his Earth-2.

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foolm0r0n
12/13/19 3:20:15 PM
#141:


I think the clearest explanation is that it wasn't actually Christmas in BL, they just made it look that way cuz they love Christmas specials

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MegamanX
12/13/19 4:10:54 PM
#142:


foolm0r0n posted...
I think the clearest explanation is that it wasn't actually Christmas in BL, they just made it look that way cuz they love Christmas specials

It was also a memory, none of that she saw was in real time

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Waluigi1
12/13/19 4:49:16 PM
#143:


ChichiriMuyo posted...
I do believe they've said from the beginning that they never intended for BL to really be a part of the universes of the other shows. I have no idea if that changed since I stopped watching BL, but I'm guessing it still holds true.
Uh... he's literally in the crossover lol.

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ChichiriMuyo
12/13/19 4:51:20 PM
#144:


Waluigi1 posted...
Uh... he's literally in the crossover lol.

That doesn't make it the same Black Lightning.

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Waluigi1
12/13/19 4:55:29 PM
#145:


ChichiriMuyo posted...
That doesn't make it the same Black Lightning.
In the last episode of BL, they were experiencing the same anti-matter storm as all the other Earths and then Pariah literally plucked him out and saved him right as their Earth was being wiped out...

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ChichiriMuyo
12/13/19 10:51:33 PM
#146:


Waluigi1 posted...
In the last episode of BL, they were experiencing the same anti-matter storm as all the other Earths and then Pariah literally plucked him out and saved him right as their Earth was being wiped out...
Ah. Well, that particular show never interested me. I gave it two and a half seasons and just couldn't be bothered anymore.

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Waluigi1
12/14/19 12:05:52 AM
#147:


Ok then are you acting like you have any idea what's going on?

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