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Espeon
10/30/19 3:50:25 PM
#1:


Team Rob or Team Sandra? - Results (5 votes)
"Boston" Rob Mariano
60% (3 votes)
3
"Queen" Sandra Diaz-Twine
40% (2 votes)
2
Yup, even the poll is all about them.
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Inviso
10/30/19 8:01:04 PM
#2:


It begins.
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10/30/19 8:01:22 PM
#3:


Detective Dean is on the case!

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Inviso
10/30/19 8:06:34 PM
#4:


Elaine is the target on Vokai, Noura is the target on Lairo. Yay for targeting the only people who inspire emotion in me.
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Pokewars
10/30/19 8:21:03 PM
#5:


Ugh fuck off with this bullshit.
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Inviso
10/30/19 8:21:41 PM
#6:


Is it just me, or is it kinda unfair that this makes two times where a tribe got an advantage in an immunity challenge (advanced knowledge of the challenge itself), just because they won a previous immunity challenge? Vokai got an advantage in episode four due to winning the challenge in episode one (which set up the Lairo-Vokai-Lairo-Vokai IotI order). And now Vokai gets an advantage here due to winning last episode's immunity.
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The Mana Sword
10/30/19 8:22:58 PM
#7:


scene was great. survivor rarely has moments like that anymore
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Inviso
10/30/19 8:23:17 PM
#8:


Pokewars posted...
Ugh fuck off with this bullshit.


Yeah, enough of this emotional shit that brings Survivor back to its roots as a social experiment. Let's have everyone talking about splitting the vote in order to make another #blindside.
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Pokewars
10/30/19 8:25:26 PM
#9:


Emotional is good. This whole I out-rank you on the victimhood hierarchy and privilege blah blah blah that is the dead horse of topics force-fed down everyone's throats is nauseating.
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The Mana Sword
10/30/19 8:25:58 PM
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Inviso
10/30/19 8:30:48 PM
#11:


Elaine, how did you manage to nearly fuck that up?
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10/30/19 8:31:32 PM
#12:


She dropped the advantage, then had to turn around to pick it up without people noticing.

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The Mana Sword
10/30/19 8:33:02 PM
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10/30/19 8:34:13 PM
#14:


still a lot of time left, not the straightforward 4-3 vote it could be

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Inviso
10/30/19 8:39:09 PM
#15:


I hope Lairo doesn't fuck this up.

They WILL, because that's been their M.O. all season thus far.

But I have no problem with any of the Vokais getting eliminated from this tribe.
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10/30/19 8:42:40 PM
#16:


feels like elaine

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Inviso
10/30/19 8:44:17 PM
#17:


Yeah, this feels like an episode paying tribute to someone the producers love (Elaine) by making us hate the people for targeting her.
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10/30/19 8:51:42 PM
#18:


burn the place down

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Pokewars
10/30/19 8:52:34 PM
#19:


She...did not have to do that, right?

I guess she had to declare who is being blocked.
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GTM
10/30/19 8:52:45 PM
#20:


no mention that aaron and missy were in the whispers and elisabeth wasnt

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Inviso
10/30/19 8:54:07 PM
#21:


Tommy is SO boring. PLEASE vote him out.
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10/30/19 8:55:16 PM
#22:


got me fooled (as always)

also RIP my preseason winner pick

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Inviso
10/30/19 8:57:09 PM
#23:


YES! I mean, not that I have anything against Jason (he's completely acceptable), but it was either him or Elaine, you know?
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The Mana Sword
10/30/19 8:57:46 PM
#24:


I wish they targeted like Dan. Jason was one of the slightly more interesting Vokai
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Mewtwo59
10/30/19 9:59:08 PM
#25:


Aww, I was looking forward to Jason linking back up with Noura at the merge.
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eaedwards6400
10/30/19 10:11:50 PM
#26:


I like this season a lot so far and if you don't well... "suck it up buttercup" lol jk
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10/30/19 11:52:50 PM
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Espeon
10/31/19 10:00:17 AM
#28:


On the one hand, from a storytelling perspective, its great to see Vokai get SUPER cocky, only to get smacked down by the woman they thought was dumb. But on the other hand, the twist feels almost PERFECTLY tailored to cause this event, and it makes me feel slightly uneasy about how legit it was.
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Mewtwo59
10/31/19 11:23:33 AM
#29:


Yeah, I agree. The fact that it was pretty well received, probably because it saved fan favorite Elaine, is just going to fuel production's more advantages = better show mentality.
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MartinFF7
10/31/19 11:56:47 AM
#30:


Anyone else wondering why they would both steal a vote & put their 4 votes on the same person?

Like you could steal any of the Vokai's votes, why not target a different person (like Sandra mused?), I would be afraid of immunity idol shenanigans if I was one of the old Lairo...
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Mewtwo59
10/31/19 12:06:04 PM
#31:


It was probably a double bluff. Steal Jason's vote to make Vokai think he's not the target so they play their idol on one of the other 3.
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MartinFF7
10/31/19 12:32:11 PM
#32:


Yeah fair play I guess, might feel safer to play the odds since they could only cover 1/3 but the double bluff also works...

Now I've got a vision of both tribes competing to throw the challenges to try and maintain old tribe number advantages, old Lairo still down by 2. Probably all moot since Karishma's part of them too and she hardly counts as Lairo.
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Underleveled
10/31/19 8:39:53 PM
#33:


Inviso posted...
YES! I mean, not that I have anything against Jason (he's completely acceptable), but it was either him or Elaine, you know?

This was exactly my reaction. I was happy for the Elaine save/Lairo victory, not so much that Jason was the victim when any of Lauren/Dan/Tommy would've been a much better loss.

I was also stunned. I thought for sure Lauren was a goner.

Overall this was the best episode of the season so far and I think it will be hard to top.
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bwburke94
10/31/19 10:20:31 PM
#34:


The alleged bootlist I saw on Survivor Wiki has been proven false. Though I seriously doubted it after the swap, on account of it having a Final Two.

(Spoiler tagged because it reveals something I believe this season does not have.)
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Underleveled
11/01/19 12:58:59 PM
#35:


As pointed out in Edgic, Dean is the first person in Survivor history to get a CP, MOR, UTR, OTT, and INV all in the first five episodes.
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GTM
11/01/19 10:07:39 PM
#36:


How is "official" Edgic ratings decided? Is it a vote by the community (like eventhubs), or a group of established experts (like the Smash Bros back room)?

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Underleveled
11/02/19 12:32:17 AM
#37:


Sort of a mix of both. It's not some "elite" group by any means but you must establish yourself as a member of the community (ie actively participate in Edgic discussion and not just lurk and rate).
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Peridiam
11/02/19 12:40:15 AM
#38:


Its a community vote. Same with the winner picks. Newbies can vote too and have their voice included even if its their first season.
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Underleveled
11/02/19 9:23:26 AM
#39:


So I was thinking about which of the TAR seasons I have recently rewatched has my ranking most closely line up with the boot order, and decided to see for myself if I was correct. Not only was I correct, but it wasn't even close. I found some interesting things, and my order of least-to-most deviant doesn't necessarily line up with my season ranking, at all, due to the fact that a strong cast from start to finish can create a pretty erratic ranking (see 25), or one bad team going far can make all the difference (see 27). Anyway, here's what I came up with from closest to most deviant:

30 > 5 > 1 > 22 > 2 = 3 > 27 > 25 > 7 = 29 > 8 > 31 > 6 > 4
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DoctorBIind
11/02/19 3:25:33 PM
#40:


RIP Rudy
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Underleveled
11/02/19 3:32:20 PM
#41:


Man, even though I knew this was going to happen sooner rather than later, especially with the Alzheimer's announcement, this is still a gut-punch.

Apparently he died 11 years to the day after his wife.
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11/02/19 3:48:10 PM
#42:


RIP Rudy

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BlueCrystalTear
11/02/19 11:25:36 PM
#43:


What an episode that was. It had everything, though it sucks that Jason's gone. I too would've much rather it been any of the other three, with Feely Dan being the one I like the least, and I'd expected it to be either him or Lauren. The Tribal music has also been KILLER this season.

According to Jason's exit press, 1) he played a fake idol that Noura left behind in the swap, 2) Vokai was voting for Aaron in a planned 4-2-2 and had to then bank on his vote after Elaine pulled out her ammo (hence the whispers), and 3) he fully anticipated it was him. I believe him on all accounts.

And, of course, RIP Rudy :(
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GTM
11/03/19 6:46:15 PM
#44:


wow a fake idol not shown but instead whispering shown eww

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Chaeix
11/03/19 8:13:16 PM
#45:


Mewtwo59 posted...
Yeah, I agree. The fact that it was pretty well received, probably because it saved fan favorite Elaine, is just going to fuel production's more advantages = better show mentality.

This was a well placed advantage though. It HAD to go to someone on the 8-person tribe which is where it can make the most immediate impact, especially in a 4v4 which is what they got. I will give them credit for awesome game design with this one
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BlueCrystalTear
11/03/19 9:30:55 PM
#46:


GTM posted...
wow a fake idol not shown but instead whispering shown eww

Right, and the whispering didn't make any sense because we'd already presumed that Vokai was voting for Elaine.. We didn't know that they'd seen through Aaron's snake oil and were going to get rid of him instead.

Chaeix posted...
This was a well placed advantage though. It HAD to go to someone on the 8-person tribe which is where it can make the most immediate impact, especially in a 4v4 which is what they got. I will give them credit for awesome game design with this one

I also liked how they surprised everyone by having the challenge sit-out go to Island of the Idols instead. Was a nice surprise. If they're going to do a non-idol advantage at one point in the season, it's going to be on an 8-person tribe. Should limit how many appear per season, though.

They got really lucky with some of the prior ones, including the first extra vote in Worlds Apart (where Dan Foley playing it spooked Mama C into playing her idol, thus sending Dan to Ponderosa) and the vote stealer in David vs. Goliath. They forget about how many have fizzled and amounted to nada. It's really all in how it's placed, as well as who gets it.
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GTM
11/06/19 1:46:51 AM
#47:


awww I'm catching up on RHAP's Week 4 Voicemails with Morgan, and she sounds like she really appreciates Andy as her biggest fan

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Underleveled
11/06/19 10:08:09 AM
#48:


Gonna get to watch live tonight! Woo!

There's some speculation that this could be one of those episodes, but it's all based on a brief clip from the preview.
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BlueCrystalTear
11/06/19 10:51:26 AM
#49:


GTM posted...
awww I'm catching up on RHAP's Week 4 Voicemails with Morgan, and she sounds like she really appreciates Andy as her biggest fan

That she does <3

Trust me, that meant a LOT.
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Underleveled
11/06/19 6:59:52 PM
#50:


I'm about halfway through TAR9 at this point. I seem to remember this being one of my favorite seasons when I first watched the series, but I wasn't sure what to expect going back because Sucks talks about this one like it's the devil incarnate and it's almost always in peoples' bottom 5s...

I gotta say so far the hate is WAY overblown, and in particular the seething hatred for two particular teams is overblown.
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