Board 8 > deo listens to Classic Sonic level themes for the first time and ranks them

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banshiryuu
10/24/19 12:47:14 AM
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136th: Sonic the Hedgehog (SMS) - Green Hill Zone
Composer: Yuzo Koshiro
Score: 58/100 (6.7), Sonic the Hedgehog (SMS) (5/6)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAZoROzFTjs" data-time="


The classic everybody knows and loves!! ...Except not actually. It's a watered down Green Hill, just as you'd expect. Maybe it's because I actually am familiar with the original (although, if I wasn't at least familiar with Green Hill Zone of all things before this, that'd be pretty crazy) but this is just so empty. Composition is good because it's literally Green Hill Zone, but it leaves a lot to be desired. Still cool to hear a "downgraded" version, arranged by Yuzo Koshiro no less.

This is also probably a good time to mention before anyone goes crazy that Composer is more of an "Arranger" field but I didn't feel like naming it so lol. This will be important to note for Sonic Mania remixes by Tee Lopes, or stuff like Hydrocity Act 2 which is confirmed to be arranged by Masayuki Nagao while also confirmed to not be composed by Nagao.

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135th: Sonic & Knuckles - The Doomsday Zone
Composer: Tatsuyuki Maeda, Sachio Ogawa, Masanori Hikichi
Score: 58/100 (6.7), Sonic & Knuckles (9/12)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0kssRYUFBI" data-time="


Good foreboding theme with some really good smooth FM instruments. I like the utilization of stereo a lot, and the transition from the intro to the main song/the beginning of subsequent loops is also really good. Nothing that really wows me though, just a cool upbeat song.
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Leonhart4
10/24/19 1:55:01 AM
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Love Doomsday. It's so good in-game. Just listening to it gives me fond memories of that last boss fight.
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Cybat
10/24/19 10:10:49 AM
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Yeah, that song is improved so much by experiencing it in context. Such a good fight.
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banshiryuu
10/24/19 3:42:21 PM
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134th: Sonic CD (USA) - Metallic Madness
Composer: Mark Crew
Score: 58/100 (6.7), Sonic CD (USA) (17/21)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbFenmDfwlM" data-time="


This song starts off with a SUPER cool intro, gets me super excited to hear what the song has to offer but then ohhhhhhhh here comes Mr. Filtered Guitar again awww. For how much I like how the intro sounds, I really wish it didn't go somewhere where I super do not care for the sound at all. And that it was faster...

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133rd: Sonic CD (USA) - Metallic Madness "B" mix
Composer: Mark Crew
Score: 58/100 (6.7), Sonic CD (USA) (16/21)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ittaP9_t4HI" data-time="


...oh that fixes one problem! I don't like the intro as much as the present mix, but I do still like this one quite a bit. The faster tempo gives it SO much more energy that I really like it. But then that guitar I don't like comes back immediately... and is a little more frequent in when it appears. There's a lot more going on here though so there it's not as prominent and I like that. There's just enough changed for better and for worse that I have roughly the same overall feeling as the present mix, though I do like this one a bit more. Both of these guys have a lot going for them still.
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banshiryuu
10/24/19 8:42:04 PM
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132nd: Sonic the Hedgehog 3 - Launch Base Zone Act 2
Composer: Michael Jackson, Brad Buxer
Score: 58/100 (6.7), Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (17/17)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzgzPktwRwg" data-time="


See below!! This is just the song below with a few channels muted sometimes in a really odd way that doesn't make much sense or positively impact the song so it's technically below but yeah I'll just talk about the song below.

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131st: Sonic the Hedgehog 3 - Launch Base Zone Act 1
Composer: Michael Jackson, Brad Buxer
Score: 58/100 (6.7), Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (16/17)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehiKyBwSPCY" data-time="


Okay here's the actually first appearance of Michael Jackson (probably, I think this is like the least "likely to be him" one that is still probably him instead of the Japanese team.) Anywho, about the song... GO G-GO GO. GO. GO. G-G-G-G-G-GO GO. Pretty funky tune, but there's a few things I don't really care for, namely the bongo-like percussion. Also the egregious abuse of the Go sample, which REALLY REALLY should be something I love a lot so to hear it get on my nerves sucks a lot!!!

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130th: Sonic the Hedgehog 3 - Endless Mine Zone
Composer: Tatsuyuki Maeda, Sachio Ogawa, Masanori Hikichi
Score: 58/100 (6.7), Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (15/17)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afvhon26unY" data-time="


Intro starts off like it's gonna be something I like a lot, but the melody is kinda weak and the instrument for it is as well. But I like the bass, as well as the background synth and stuff it does a lot! Kinda funny that I actually remember this one more than a few other Sonic 3 songs that I do like more than it because of the intro, so that's always a huge plus when you have the memorability.
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foolm0r0n
10/24/19 11:47:15 PM
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proto-City Escape ranked this low??
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ninkendo
10/24/19 11:52:25 PM
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HBJDubs
10/25/19 12:11:01 AM
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Only 2 hard disagrees so far (Aqua Lake and Endless Mine) so can't complain too much! Curious to see how the Sonic CD OSTs rank relative to each other, since I'm certainly in the minority with thinking the US version is way better
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banshiryuu
10/25/19 2:30:53 AM
#60:


I've actually heard mostly that exact sentiment! I think of the people I know from the community that I've heard comment on it, I'm at like six for US, two for JP lol. Speaking of more Sonic CD, however...

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129th: Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) - Collision Chaos "B" mix
Composer: Masafumi Ogata
Score: 58/100 (6.7), Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) (24/28)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMp1Ovh8I7c" data-time="


Another case of "pretty cool sounding, but not enough to get me over the elements of the song that don't exactly grip me." The main motif is way too quiet and played with a pretty underwhelming instrument, I feel like it should definitely be more prominent... especially since it's supposed to be what ties this time period to the others! Overall groovy much like the rest of the Sonic CD JP stuff, but could be so much more.

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128th: Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) - Metallic Madness "G" mix
Composer: Naofumi Hataya
Score: 58/100 (6.7), Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) (23/28)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRbSP-TJpxI" data-time="


Ahhhhh our friend the good ol' end solo from Metallic Madness present gets its time to shine as the main melody! This songs just a little too "sparkly" for my tastes. Too much space between notes, especially the recurring orch hits. Bum, bum, bum... bum bum bum. This motif really benefits from being fast paced as in other variations of the theme, so it makes this song seem like a slog sometimes. Still, it's a very very cool take on the motif, and I'm glad that it stands out on its own like this against its rave brethren. Just that I like that other style more oops.
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ninkendo
10/25/19 1:18:45 PM
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I don't care for Sonic CD as a game in general
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LOLIAmAnAlt
10/25/19 1:48:02 PM
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Sonic CD definately is a top 3 Sonic as a game and for music and for intro.
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Steiner
10/25/19 1:54:56 PM
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this topic rules
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DeepsPraw
10/25/19 2:01:21 PM
#66:


Why limit yourself to old 2D platfomers? You should rank every Sonic song

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banshiryuu
10/25/19 3:52:44 PM
#67:


DeepsPraw posted...
Why limit yourself to old 2D platfomers? You should rank every Sonic song

Mainly cause I'm familiar with a decent portion of the newer stuff; Sonic R and both Adventures especially and a tiny bit of Colors and Unleashed. Since there was this whole section of the series I knew literally nothing about I thought it would be more interesting if almost everything I was ranking was something completely new to me.

That being said, if there's actually interest I would not be opposed to expanding the pool and doing this again sometime in the future haha
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banshiryuu
10/25/19 4:18:29 PM
#68:


127th: Sonic Chaos - Aqua Planet Zone
Composer: Kojiro Mikusa, Masayuki Nagao
Score: 59/100 (6.7), Sonic Chaos (6/8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feH54pqF9vA" data-time="


Fun bouncy little tune. That quick little intro really sets it up for the rest of the song well, and I like the reprise of the intro of the main song as the chorus. Pretty cool, albeit a little unmemorable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n75WB_zP4es" data-time="

The Game Gear version for this has a slightly different verse while keeping the same chorus, and while I do like the verse by itself more in the Game Gear version, I think the cost of losing the chorus coming back and being like "hey it's me again" evens out my feelings on that version to be the same as the Master System one anyway. Thus, they aren't ranked separately.

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126th: Sonic the Hedgehog: Triple Trouble - Sunset Park Zone
Composer: Yayoi Wachi
Score: 59/100 (6.7), Sonic the Hedgehog: Triple Trouble (5/7)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIr23F4RCJw" data-time="


Arps that I really like in the intro yes!!! Slow melody that I don't really care for afterwards no!!! I actually find myself paying more attention to the progression in the background here than the melody so that saves its score quite a bit.

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125th: Sonic Chaos - Turquoise Hill Zone
Composer: Kojiro Mikusa, Masayuki Nagao
Score: 59/100 (6.7), Sonic Chaos (5/8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuMSFJEFiNk" data-time="


This one straight up reminds me of a mix between Needle Man Stage and Shadow Man Stage from Mega Man 3, and that's pretty cool. I feel like there's a part of this song missing though, like at 0:46 it seems like it should go into a chorus there but instead it loops so its like oh... okay. I want so much more from this song, it's another case of "really cool sound, but not too crazy on the actual content." There's also a different Game Gear version for this song, and besides a different intro and like two spots where a short melody is slightly different it is the same so I likewise did not separate the two.
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banshiryuu
10/25/19 4:41:11 PM
#69:


124th: Sonic the Hedgehog 3 - Balloon Park Zone
Composer: Jun Senoue
Score: 59/100 (6.7), Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (14/17)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaNqveEvZBI" data-time="


Fun song!! Balloons!! At a carnival!!! ((Not an insane clown carnival like Sonic seems to like)) Definitely a perfect example of a song I like as background music because it coveys a certain setting literally perfectly, but it's not a song I care about much on its own. The "darker" section from 0:27 to 0:40 is really cool though!!

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123rd: Sonic the Hedgehog - Scrap Brain Zone
Composer: Masato Nakamura
Score: 59/100 (6.7), Sonic the Hedgehog (4/7)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VaRpZETtUQ" data-time="


In a strange twist from the trend of songs being lower because of missing elements or me wanting more... this is a song I could live without some stuff! The delayed and increasingly-out-of-time timpani hits at 0:06 and recurring through the beginning are just... why?? Is it supposed to be adding like... machinery ambiance to the level or something? Okay the transition at 0:36 is pretty damn cool though. And the end part of the song gets better as well, with normal timpanis. All things considered, it's still pretty cool.
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banshiryuu
10/25/19 6:39:45 PM
#70:


122nd: Sonic Mania - Stardust Speedway Zone Act 1
Composer: Tee Lopes
Score: 59/100 (6.7), Sonic Mania (27/28)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSf3IP7k-Rk" data-time="


Ye-yeah yeah work it work it girl. Full of that suave posh lounge sound that could any area sound high-class, but it's just too slow for my liking. Still a very good sound overall.

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121st: Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) - Tidal Tempest
Composer: Masafumi Ogata
Score: 59/100 (6.7), Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) (22/28)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOKUK3RcJI8" data-time="


A slow burner right here, it takes a while for this to get going so it's hard for me to get into it, but like Stardust Mania 1 I appreciate the overall sound a lot. Especially the rain sounds, I like the sound of rain a LOOOOOT and any song that uses it for effect gets a good bonus from me. The final part at 1:34 is definitely the highlight; the interaction of the layers here is really cool.

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120th: Sonic & Knuckles Collection - Launch Base Zone Act 1
Composer: Jun Senoue, Shigeaki Irie, Masaaki Nishizawa, Goro Takahashi
Score: 59/100 (6.7), Sonic & Knuckles Collection (3/6)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S-8wDwbu6s" data-time="


The intro always makes me think it's gonna go into a sort of similar march-style tune like Wing Fortress does (and that got second-to-last sooooooo... yeah you know how that would make me feel) but instead it goes into this triumphant-but-also-somewhat-somber interaction of two melodies doing a call-and-response sort of thing and that's really cool!! It's kind of lacking in a way since it sounds mostly the same over its entire loop, but that's quite alright. It's pretty cool anyway.
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banshiryuu
10/26/19 1:30:23 AM
#71:


119th: Sonic the Hedgehog: Triple Trouble - Atomic Destroyer Zone
Composer: Yayoi Wachi
Score: 59/100 (6.7), Sonic the Hedgehog: Triple Trouble (4/7)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynNHKdZgaVs" data-time="


Danger incoming!! Pretty intense, you can feel the panic in this song. The way it trips over itself at 0:14 is a cool little detail, but other than that it's not super notable.

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118th: Sonic CD (USA) - Collision Chaos "B" mix
Composer: Mark Crew
Score: 59/100 (6.7), Sonic CD (USA) (15/21)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uLKjnCZUaA" data-time="


Original link I had for this song got stopped by the GameFAQs filter lmao nice.

Our first case of a US theme coming back further away from another incarnation, we have the "B" mix here when the "G" was previously seen in 154th place. Higher tempo is a plus, stuff going on to take the focus off that guitar is a big plus, BIG slappy bass is a BIG plus. Yeah, an upgrade in a large number of ways for me. Still lacks somewhat and I'm not entirely sure where to place the blame. But yeah, pretty cool.

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117th: Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (SMS) - Gimmick Mt. Zone
Composer: Masafumi Ogata, Naofumi Hataya
Score: 59/100 (6.7), Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (SMS) (5/7)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l63f4Bk_wvY" data-time="


Good beat, it doesn't have much going on at all but it's at least got me groovin' so that's cool. Reminds me a lot of the Wacky Workbench motif, but watered down quite a bit. Overall good.
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banshiryuu
10/26/19 3:16:50 AM
#72:


116th: Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) - Wacky Workbench "G" mix
Composer: Masafumi Ogata
Score: 60/100 (6.7), Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) (21/28)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9IPYr1HnBo" data-time="


PERFECT.. TECHNO. This reminds me of one of the Chao area themes in the Adventure games for some reason, but I'm not entirely sure which one. A very childlike feel almost, which might sound like I'm saying that as a negative but I'm not! Also has the 808 cowbell so yeah it's pretty cool in my book.

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115th: Sonic the Hedgehog: Triple Trouble - Robotnik Winter Zone
Composer: Yayoi Wachi
Score: 60/100 (6.7), Sonic the Hedgehog: Triple Trouble (3/7)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMg2TpcGgkA" data-time="


What a weird name for a zone. Is it because Robotnik cause the winter to descend early or something? Either way this doesn't really come across as a winter theme at all, it's actually somewhat tropical so... yeah oops? Incredibly short but its got a great sound to it! Just not that memorable so that brings it back down to about average to me. Pretty nice.

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114th: Sonic CD (USA) - Stardust Speedway
Composer: Spencer Nilsen, David Young
Score: 60/100 (6.7), Sonic CD (USA) (14/21)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XGtW4FIM2M" data-time="


Really nice, chill tune. Yet another one that seems rather bizarre for its given area at first thought, but actually it fits really well after thinking about it. While the JP Speedways go for the "going fast in a luxurious car in the city" theme, this is more "chilling on a nice evening ride with the windows down" or something. Anyway, yeah, pretty cool, rather relaxing.

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113rd: Sonic CD (USA) - Tidal Tempest "B" mix
Composer: Spencer Nilsen, David Young
Score: 60/100 (6.7), Sonic CD (USA) (13/21)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUD2eifnm4U" data-time="


This reminds me of the game intro to Class::XIO_PROCEED; for some reason, and that's a very good thing. The quiet background vocals add a lot to the atmosphere, and then when it turns into the breathy "ha"s it gets even better. Also very cool, but this kind of atmospheric can usually only do so much without some more exploring!
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rwlh
10/26/19 12:00:11 PM
#73:


The intro to Aqua Planet Zone is really funny.

I love Sonic CD (USA) - Stardust Speedway. Great track, one of my favorites from CD.
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Haste_2
10/26/19 2:54:10 PM
#74:


I really need to listen to the Sonic CD soundtracks as a whole..
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LOLIAmAnAlt
10/26/19 3:12:23 PM
#75:


Sonic CD USA getting slaughtered (and Triple Trouble which is understandable, but the nostalgia is heavy with me on this one...it was my most played Sonic as a kid)
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banshiryuu
10/26/19 3:38:48 PM
#76:


112nd: Sonic Blast - Blue Marine Zone
Composer: Kojiro Mikusa
Score: 60/100 (6.7), Sonic Blast (2/5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7r8j7FWTUk" data-time="


Short but does some cool stuff in that short time. Anytime you have the melody and countermelody coming together at the end of a phrase and playing together like this song does in the beginning is always really cool to me, and the pitch up adds to it as well. Unfortunately, the second section of the song is kinda whatever, which is super not good when you have something of this length. So when I listen to it I ended up switching between "really like" and "don't care at all" for it.

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111st: Sonic Chaos - Sleeping Egg Zone
Composer: Kojiro Mikusa, Masayuki Nagao
Score: 60/100 (6.7), Sonic Chaos (4/8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCFMUkFOJYM" data-time="


Contra the Hedgehog. This song is almost egregiously jazzy to me, like it's the equivalent of someone trying to show off with some elaborate solo during your high school performance, but instead its the composer showing off this funky stuff in his video game. Once again, there's a slightly different Game Gear version for this one, but it only switches up two single-bar sections with different, even more crazy solo-y sections. Honestly despite knowing that they're different they both sound the same to me so I don't really have a preference at all, and once again am ranking considering them the same.

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110th: Sonic CD (USA) - Wacky Workbench "B" mix
Composer: Spencer Nilsen, David Young
Score: 60/100 (6.7), Sonic CD (USA) (12/21)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU4IwMw_rhg" data-time="


Despite kinda panning similar songs in this list so far, I do think this one is pretty cool still! The vocal stuff is consistently cool among all the US CD tracks, and the bass/background synth in this one are pretty cool to listen to as well. 0:47 to the "end of loop" is really cool as well, I REALLY like the guitar solo that bleeds into the beginning of another loop as well, which might sound weird considering how much I've panned the guitar in these songs up until now. Guess it just managed to get used in the right away!
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banshiryuu
10/27/19 4:59:11 PM
#77:


109th: Sonic Mania - Built to Rule - Titanic Monarch Zone Act 1
Composer: Tee Lopes
Score: 60/100 (6.7), Sonic Mania (26/28)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZg4xuDmBdI" data-time="


Electric Castlevania Zone. Except also with a bit of Mega Man and a Pokemon Colosseum ending in there too. Honestly just incredible sounds used here, including the dial-up noise which is actually amazing. Too bad I just don't really care about the composition like at all. Oh well, it's still cool to listen to at least.

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108th: Sonic the Hedgehog 3 - Desert Palace Zone
Composer: Tatsuyuki Maeda, Sachio Ogawa, Masanori Hikichi
Score: 60/100 (6.7), Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (13/17)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQBeIFO17qg" data-time="


Intro is absolutely amazing, love the repeating chromatic dropping of the melody a lot!! And then 0:20 happens and I don't like it as much anymore! Another one I hate dropping so low, but alas. Really wish I could give this one a higher score, so I'll settle with making it the "best of the 6.7s" instead.
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Zigzagoon
10/27/19 5:01:07 PM
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Damn, best Mania song out already. Expected tho v_v
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banshiryuu
10/27/19 6:13:06 PM
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107th: Sonic & Knuckles - Death Egg Zone Act 1
Composer: Tatsuyuki Maeda, Sachio Ogawa, Masanori Hikichi
Score: 61/100 (6.8), Sonic & Knuckles (8/12)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqL2kvu6PK8" data-time="


Pretty funky, very electric death-by-big-robot-machines feeling which is very fitting. Then 0:26 happens and WHOOOA I am being ELECTROCUTEd by sound very digitized death cool sounds. I really like the effect the rapidly changing hard panning has on the song too. Only real problem I have with it is a kinda blunt loop that's odd but there isn't anything I really dislike about it.

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106th: Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) - Palmtree Panic "P" mix
Composer: Naofumi Hataya
Score: 61/100 (6.8), Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) (21/28)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56aa7r68fek" data-time="


I am in the past with the dinosaurs!! Of all the PCM tracks, this one is definitely the most "sound chip-y" out of all of them haha, the samples in this one specifically seem even more low quality than others, but that is not a bad thing AT ALL. In fact, I'd believe it was done on purpose for effect and it works. Very cool chill sound, I just think I could stand to care a bit more for the melodies in it. I don't particularly like how the Palmtree Panic motif is used in the later part of the song. However, it doesn't stop me from smiling when I do listen to the song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF9GfSmBMDY" data-time="

In an extremely ironic case of perfect timing, a prototype of Sonic CD dated to December 1992 was just released to the public yesterday, which includes a version of this song with CD quality as opposed to the PCM quality of the final... and it's really cool! I can't really say for sure if I like it more or less than the final product, but given my holdups are pretty much all just composition stuff, I'd probably end up saying it's about on par. But still, a very cool listen.

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105th: Sonic CD (USA) - Tidal Tempest
Composer: Spencer Nilsen, David Young
Score: 61/100 (6.8), Sonic CD (USA) (11/21)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUe8SnRfCLg" data-time="


Wwssshoooooo... Finally a focus on the vocals!! The part where they suddenly come out of nowhere with a lick is actually incredibly hilarious to me. Cool backing sound, still somewhat generic but I like it. It would've been nice if it could catch my attention away from the wooosh and drip drip in the background and would probably make me like it more but yeah, I like it.
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Mitochondriagon
10/27/19 6:22:51 PM
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None of my favs yet. Good sign
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banshiryuu
10/27/19 7:51:56 PM
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104th: Sonic the Hedgehog: Triple Trouble - Great Turquoise Zone
Composer: Yayoi Wachi
Score: 61/100 (6.8), Sonic the Hedgehog: Triple Trouble (2/7)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUTZNFniEp0" data-time="


Weak melody is saved by all these cool little sound-effect-like things going on all around. The ease of being able to pay attention to these random little sweeps or trills without either overpowering the melody or in turn being overpowered by it makes this song a lot more enjoyable to me. Pretty cool overall!

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103rd: Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) - Stardust Speedway "G" mix
Composer: Naofumi Hataya
Score: 61/100 (6.8), Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) (20/28)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw8aPIZQIL8" data-time="


Very cool, but almost too simple for a motif that should be surrounded with complex stuff like Stardust Speedway's is! I feel like there should be at least one more layer added to pretty much every single part of this song. I like it quite a bit, but can't help but want more when I listen! Also is that kecak I hear at like 0:51 and 0:59 and other parts in there? What a bizarre place for kecak if so lol

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102nd: Sonic the Hedgehog 3 - Marble Garden Zone Act 1
Composer: Miyoko Takaoka
Score: 61/100 (6.8), Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (12/17)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq6oRi6UTXY" data-time="


For a song that's as empty as this one, it's got a lot of SOUND going on! The lead being so plucky does not help that case at all, but sounds like the GWWAAAaaaoooo BLEEEE at 0:15 are REALLY cool like WHOAA here you are in this nice area but you never know what will pop out at you like wherever the little part at 0:33 came from idk but its COOL. I feel like I could definitely force myself to like this one more than I say I do right now lol, it'll probably come with time and/or actually playing the game.

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101st: Sonic the Hedgehog 3 - Marble Garden Zone Act 2
Composer: Miyoko Takaoka
Score: 61/100 (6.8), Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (11/17)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkcCL_CkEkY" data-time="


Okay immediately the emptiness problem of Act 1 is fixed by a MUCH MUCH better lead patch like, it's not as plucky and instead of every. note. being. short. it gets to end phrases with a cool punchy staccato and I appreciate that a lot!! The BLEEEE is gone and I'm sad... but the little floaty 0:33 jingle is here so I am not as sad!! Yeah this one is definitely my preferred one of the two because of the lead pretty much. Cool songs thank you Miyoko Takaoka!! (confirmed composer, i can't believe that exists in sonic 3 what th eheck!!)
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HBJDubs
10/27/19 8:06:34 PM
#83:


Gimmick Mountain and Tidal Tempest USA too low!
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foolm0r0n
10/27/19 8:17:14 PM
#84:


banshiryuu posted...
109th: Sonic Mania - Built to Rule - Titanic Monarch Zone Act 1

This is what 100% of Cross Code music sounds like
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banshiryuu
10/28/19 2:00:01 AM
#85:


100th: Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (SMS) - Sky High Zone
Composer: Naofumi Hataya
Score: 61/100 (6.8), Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (SMS) (4/7)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcXlON-nCDs" data-time="


Zone theme? More like a really cool world map theme! Seriously, this reminds me of Super Mario Land 2 or something, more of Game Boy than a Game Gear. Not much to it here but for what it is, I like it.

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99th: Sonic & Knuckles Collection - Carnival Night Zone Act 2
Composer: Jun Senoue, Shigeaki Irie, Masaaki Nishizawa, Goro Takahashi
Score: 61/100 (6.8), Sonic & Knuckles Collection (2/6)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhyP6q1qoOM" data-time="


Every time I begin to listen to it and wonder "wait why is this song this high up again?" 0:22 kicks in and I get surprised every time. Very surprising full sound compared to most of the other compositions/arrangements in Knuckles Collection, and its gotta a pretty nice melody throughout on top of it. The parts kinda jumble together but it's a fun song!

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98th: Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) - Wacky Workbench "P" mix
Composer: Masafumi Ogata
Score: 61/100 (6.8), Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) (19/28)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_BHXsgM940" data-time="


Where Palmtree Panic takes you back to prehistoric times, Wacky Workbench takes you back to the... 40s in an alternate timeline where you hoedown to house music???? "Wacky" is definitely the best way to describe this song. Especially 1:00, it's a bit repetitive but its a good beat with that bass, and the transpose down is cool. And then 1:30 starts the real show! There's the Wacky Workbench scale that I like to hear! The end of the loop is so short but it saves the song a rather hefty amount. Yehaw!

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97th: Sonic CD (USA) - Wacky Workbench "G" mix
Composer: Spencer Nilsen, David Young
Score: 61/100 (6.8), Sonic CD (USA) (10/21)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVkx53tCuus" data-time="


BIG SLAPPY. Very big step up from the "B" mix seen earlier in the list; higher tempo and that hot fretless bass help bolster it a large amount. It's so quick though, and the outro is really long for no reason, so it seems like so much of the runtime is kind of a waste. Still, gotta appreciate what it does give us, so it still receives this high a placement.
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banshiryuu
10/28/19 2:56:37 AM
#86:


96th: Sonic CD (USA) - Tidal Tempest "G" mix
Composer: Spencer Nilsen, David Young
Score: 61/100 (6.8), Sonic CD (USA) (9/21)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orc6N5v9IuM" data-time="


The last of the US Tidal Tempest tracks that has to show up! Interaction between the sax/brass-like synth, the more spacey synth, and the vocals is super cool. Gets a little tiring over time, but then a cool guitar part comes in and... doesn't really do anything. But it all sounds cool still! And then guitar solo...... which I actually really like here! However, as I recall stating a bit earlier, I ranked these based off of the Sonic CD (2011) tracks, and from what I understand the 2011 versions bases the US tracks off of the official album release. Thus, the solo ends up at the beginning, where it seems like it comes in prematurely... in contrast, it takes forever to get to it in the original. There's just no winning!! Anyway, yeah cool song.

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95th: Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (SMS) - Green Hills Zone
Composer: Masafumi Ogata
Score: 61/100 (6.8), Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (SMS) (3/7)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejt94RWhq5s" data-time="


Hahaha oh look it's Green Hill Zone agaiOH ITS You Can Do Anything!! There's a few problems I have with the song in the beginning, like the melody almost constantly being an octave higher than it really should be. The intro part before toot toot is also super flourished compared to what would eventually end up as You Can Do Anything, and it's not hard to see why it got "dumbed down", cause it's a little... excessive. Still, once it gets to toot toot... what a good melody this song has in the chorus. Also not hard to see why this got chosen to end up where it did. Very interesting origin story of a beloved opening, very interesting indeed.
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banshiryuu
10/28/19 3:38:00 AM
#87:


94th: Sonic CD (USA) - Wacky Workbench
Composer: Spencer Nilsen, David Young
Score: 61/100 (6.8), Sonic CD (USA) (8/21)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_uCgVEqXXA" data-time="


SUPER funky tune. This one also screams "wacky" but in a cool way. Good shoobie-da-doos, good groove, just a cool listen. Could stand to be more memorable outside of actually listening to it, which is a big hit to an otherwise fun listen for me. All of the Wacky Workbench tunes were rather close to each other; "B" in 110th and "G" literally in the previous post in 97th, but it's even clear to me that I like this one a sizable amount more than the "G".

Goodbye Wacky Workbench US!

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93rd: Sonic CD (USA) - Palmtree Panic "B" mix
Composer: Spencer Nilsen, David Young
Score: 61/100 (6.8), Sonic CD (USA) (7/21)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smnbidglmgE" data-time="


Unlike the "G" mix which sounded uncharacteristically like a prehistoric jungle theme, this one also gives off a sort of jungle vibe... but a dangerous, trap-filled jungle this time! The lyrical chanting is REALLY COOL OH GOD THE JUNGLE TRIBE IS ANGRY i will get attacked!! by happy sunshine coconut dinosaur machines. It's actually kind of crazy how similar yet completely, completely different these Palmtree Panic tracks are, and this one definitely took the cake for me. The previous two were basically tied at 140th and 141st, and here we are almost fifty places higher. That's how you know this one figured it out somewhat lol.

Goodbye Palmtree Panic US!

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92nd: Sonic CD (USA) - Collision Chaos
Composer: Mark Crew
Score: 61/100 (6.8), Sonic CD (USA) (6/21)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRI6z2TX3J4" data-time="


Now we're talking! After the "G" mix's appearance at 154th, and the "B" mix at 118th, we finally meet the Present mix. This fixes my two main gripes with the other two, by not having that cheesy guitar constantly doing whatever like the "G", and is much more upbeat and has more going on than the "B". While it can still drag a bit like its brethren, the flashes of brilliance that it shows at places early on like 0:10~0:16 and 0:30~0:38, or the break at 1:07 are really nice. Still could be more yet, but I won't complain about what we got.

Goodbye Collision Chaos US!
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DeepsPraw
10/28/19 8:57:02 AM
#88:


banshiryuu posted...
Very interesting origin story of a beloved opening, very interesting indeed.


I know 8-bit Sonic 2 technically came out first, but CD had to have been in development for a while, right?

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banshiryuu
10/28/19 6:14:58 PM
#89:


DeepsPraw posted...
banshiryuu posted...
Very interesting origin story of a beloved opening, very interesting indeed.


I know 8-bit Sonic 2 technically came out first, but CD had to have been in development for a while, right?

I would guess Sonic 2 SMS was already mostly complete by the time Sonic CD development started, considering the very primitive Sonic CD prototype that just got revealed is dated for December 1992, a month after Sonic 2 SMS came out. Depending on how far into the game's development the music composition happened (the earliest I could find evidence of its development is a year prior to that in December 1991), however, it is entirely possible that both songs are actually "variations of the same song" and were composed at the same time rather than either being based on each other. I'd definitely believe it, and I guess that possibility just adds more questions onto the pile lol
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banshiryuu
10/28/19 7:17:28 PM
#90:


91st: Sonic the Hedgehog (SMS) - Bridge Zone
Composer: Yuzo Koshiro
Score: 62/100 (6.8), Sonic the Hedgehog (SMS) (4/6)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl1NHbCEFds" data-time="


Cute little song, it's super short and actually kinda too simple but I like the melody!! It reminds me a lot of an early area theme from some PC88 RPG or something, which... should come as absolutely no surprise considering it's by Yuzo Koshiro lol.

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90th: Sonic CD (USA) - Stardust Speedway "G" mix
Composer: Spencer Nilsen, David Young
Score: 62/100 (6.8), Sonic CD (USA) (5/21)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmjTqtYUroo" data-time="


The intro is CRAAAAZY I am on the Information Stardusthighway going REALLY FAST and then oh no the guitar again... but it's not doing an overbearing melody so I'm cool with it. But then we get to 0:37 and its WIIIIIIIIIILD again for a little bit, this part is kind repetitive but its COOL, if it like added more layers or something when it repeated and builded it'd shoot this score up so much probably. Still a nice song!

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89th: Sonic the Hedgehog (SMS) - Labyrinth Zone
Composer: Yuzo Koshiro
Score: 62/100 (6.8), Sonic the Hedgehog (SMS) (3/6)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKmI8ZGvvWE" data-time="


Oh it's the theme for the dungeon you find while traversing the Bridge Zone map in yadda yadda random PC88 RPG! This one's got a really nice swing to it, it's really fun but like Bridge Zone is just sooooo short. Too short! But I still like it!

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88th: Sonic the Hedgehog 3 - Carnival Night Zone Act 2
Composer: Michael Jackson, Brad Buxer
Score: 62/100 (6.8), Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (10/17)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unt7qWMKIPc" data-time="


oh boy here we go Michael Jackson Act 2s where he just turns OFF THE CHANNELS at random spots "oh its so cool you hear parts by themselves" no it... just does nothing for the song at all. Okay nevermind it's REALLY cool at 0:32 *glass break* *glass breaks in higher pitch* but yeah this is almost sad that this is the "second act more intense song" cause it's six billion times weaker for no reason with no effect. The fact I'm ripping it a new one and it's STILL just baaaarely not in the top half of the list... should probably spoil what I think of the full song maybe ((not really to what extent I like it more)) but yeah basically I really like the original song lol i wonder when we'll see it!!!
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banshiryuu
10/28/19 10:39:43 PM
#91:


87th: Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) - Collision Chaos "G" mix
Composer: Masafumi Ogata
Score: 62/100 (6.8), Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) (18/28)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HUq60_nJhw" data-time="


Nice chill track, I like just about every single sound used here actually. The backing ostinato is really cool especially! The melody at 0:57 is also REALLY COOL but that part doesn't last for very long!! Yeah not much to say about it but "I like it" lol

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86th: Sonic Mania - Rogues Gallery - Mirage Saloon Zone Act 2
Composer: Tee Lopes
Score: 62/100 (6.8), Sonic Mania (25/28)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJFw3ttvCcQ" data-time="


Hooo! This one super reminds me of the CD JP stuff, especially the lead chosen at 0:49. I mean, a lot of Mania reminds me of CD JP but this is like I would believe you if you told me it was a unused song from there lol. Well okay, maybe without the trumpet I would believe that. I think the trumpet is actually holding me back from liking this more, I don't like this specific trumpet being so prominent like that. It's really cool still, very boppin'. Good stuff!

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85th: Sonic Mania - Metallic Madness Zone Act 1
Composer: Tee Lopes
Score: 62/100 (6.8), Sonic Mania (24/28)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ukn3T4XI_Qk" data-time="


I feel very, very conflicted about this one haha. I really love a lot about it but the choice of vocal sample for the main melody beginning at 0:14 is just... not really that good. The rap part is also kinda underwhelming; the appeal of Metallic Madness' raps are how in-human the vocals actually sound to me, and this is just some kid goin' off. Cool mix of the Past and ....the Bad Future? (based on the way the motif is used, and also I think the intro vocal sample of the Bad Future shows up for a blip at like 0:35, 0:53, 0:57, etc.) It's Metallic fuckan Madness it still bops lol
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Grand Kirby
10/28/19 11:01:41 PM
#92:


Metallic Madness is amazing

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banshiryuu
10/28/19 11:23:42 PM
#93:


84th: Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) - Wacky Workbench
Composer: Masafumi Ogata
Score: 63/100 (6.9), Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) (17/28)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-0uRWuBJj8" data-time="


ZAP ZAP ZAP really cool track, love the uneven beat of the back-and-forth scales in the background in the intro. When it starts to go super new jack swing sample-heavy at 0:50 is like exactly what I like about Sonic CD in general haha, just overall really fun.

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83rd: Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) - Metallic Madness "B" mix
Composer: Naofumi Hataya
Score: 63/100 (6.9), Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) (16/28)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8xmH3KvAlE" data-time="


SONIC DEAD OR ALIVE ? Actually drop dead incredible opening, the vocal samples that are almost taunting you with how sinister they are against the rave backing is just GORGEOUS, but this song runs out of steam too quickly. The orch hits for the motif are kinda weak, and then the lead choice for the solo section also kinda is. The absolutely unrelenting vocal sample use saves this song a massive amount as it continues on. Really wish I could put this super high!! But alas, it's down here with the other "pretty good stuff I like". Granted, that's still pretty good lol.

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82nd: Sonic & Knuckles Collection - Launch Base Zone Act 2
Composer: Jun Senoue, Shigeaki Irie, Masaaki Nishizawa, Goro Takahashi
Score: 63/100 (6.9), Sonic & Knuckles Collection (1/6)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fj8amlWbM4" data-time="


Really cool backing that's a lot like Wacky Workbench Present's, but more even in how it lines up with the beat and also much more moving. LOVE the part starting at 0:31, LOOOOVE the countermelody hardpanned right with the scales hardpanned left, makes for a very, very cool stereo effect through the rest of the song. If this was in the Genesis version and had some insane FM patches to it I could see myself going crazy for this song, and of all the songs that will show up in this whole list, this is one that I could see growing on me the most. Actually, it already had grown up to finalizing this list. Who knows what the future has?

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With this, our first soundtrack exits the list. Thank you to Sonic & Knuckles Collection for offering a few pretty cool alternatives to some of Sonic 3's classics, two of which I liked more than the originals!! For a look back at how they did:

146th (56, 6.5): Carnival Night Zone Act 1
138th (57, 6.6): IceCap Zone Act 1 & 2
120th (59, 6.7): Launch Base Zone Act 1
99th (61, 6.8): Carnival Night Zone Act 2
82nd (63, 6.9): Launch Base Zone Act 2
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banshiryuu
10/29/19 2:54:54 AM
#94:


81st: Sonic Chaos (Game Gear) - Gigapolis Zone
Composer: Kojiro Mikusa, Masayuki Nagao
Score: 63/100 (6.9), Sonic Chaos (3/8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efTIat1Nhp8" data-time="


God this reminds me of like a very specific song and i DONT KNOW WHICH song it is... hmmmm. Really good high energy moving melody, 0:26 is very "rhythm game song" chopped up sections melody in bursts, it's funky as hell. Just overall really soliOH ITS Gimmick! - Aporia that's what this reminds me of! thank yo ugame gear

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80th: Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) - Quartz Quadrant
Composer: Naofumi Hataya
Score: 63/100 (6.9), Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) (15/28)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srktqxSO_48" data-time="


Oh looks like Sonic Mania took another hi--oh wait no its CD. Super chill, very good atmosphere but a little too generic for me to go crazy over I think. The part the "G" mix is based off of at 0:50 is reaaaally cool, which is ironic given that the "G" mix placed 142nd lol. Something about the little switch-up in there that makes it really cool. Good stuff.

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79th: Sonic Chaos - Mecha Green Hill Zone
Composer: Kojiro Mikusa, Masayuki Nagao
Score: 63/100 (6.9), Sonic Chaos (2/8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbwVPuXFDo8" data-time="


Whoa Green Hill Zone is a Gundam now... a Gundam named Mega Man Zero.... I actually really wish this were a Genesis song instead lol, it definitely feels like one but hearing the squares instead of Sick Nasty FM (Robotic) Patches (seriously why is the intro zero - mega man x) that would be very cool to hear. Yeah it's a pretty good song.
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ninkendo
10/29/19 3:26:20 AM
#95:


Mecha Green Hill Zone is Toot Toot Sonic Warrior
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banshiryuu
10/29/19 3:49:56 AM
#96:


78th FAKE SONG NOT REAL OOPS: Sonic Mania - Egg Reverie - Egg Reverie Zone
Composer: Tee Lopes
Score: 63/100 (6.9), Sonic Mania (23/28)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZG5Uf6JTDE" data-time="


WELL I should've done a little research cause it turns out this is a boss song named like a zone so uhhhhhh oops oh well. I managed to catch Sonic 2 Death Egg Part2 (and that Sonic 3's is still okay) but guess I missed this one lol. ANYWHO I'll still writeup for it since I caught it after I started the topic.

I don't know how I didn't catch it either cause this is definitely "a final boss song" lol, that electric guitar over a super high-energy instrumental that sounds like Hosoe made it for Mega Man Network Transmission, and despite being generic somehow it still rocks! When it goes a little wild it gets really good though like just listen to 1:16 jesus CHRIST what a good part.

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77th EVEN WORSE SCREW UP FUCK: Sonic Mania - Egg Panicky - Egg Reverie Zone Pinch Mode
Composer: Tee Lopes
Score: 63/100 (6.9), Sonic Mania (22/28)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBgbVNH7mwU" data-time="


LOL SO i was wondering why deoxysprime's playlist didn't have this variation on it and so i looked it up and this song is literally unused except in the sound test so uhhhhhh oops. so this is an unused variation of a song that isn't even actually qualified for the ranking DOUBLE LAYER MESSED UP AAAaaaa... Anyway, love the intensity of this from the original version. The actual WILD intensity really compliments it well and puts it a little bit over the edge of the original. But it's a FAKE RANKING anyway so oh well!!!
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Grand Kirby
10/29/19 3:56:41 AM
#97:


Quartz Quadrant is amazing too

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ninkendo
10/29/19 4:23:43 AM
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Aecioo
10/29/19 6:55:05 AM
#99:


sorry but everytime I see this topic I read it as Dio, and then I get sad that Ronnie James Dio is no longer with us, let alone ranking sonic themes.

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banshiryuu
10/29/19 11:47:10 AM
#100:


76th: Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) - Collision Chaos
Composer: Masafumi Ogata
Score: 64/100 (6.9), Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) (14/28)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT_aWcYGqp0" data-time="


Amazing sound design here, love the little mechanical hiccup sample that recurs a lot, and just like... every sound in general lol. Could stand to be a bit more attracted to the actual song itself cause it leaves a bit to be desired from me, but when a song sounds this good, I can't let it fall down the rankings too much. I do believe this marks the first level to have all of its themes leave for the JP version of Sonic CD... while I didn't LOVE any of the Collision Chaos themes, they were are at least pretty cool, and this is best one of them by far!

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75th: Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) - Stardust Speedway "P" mix
Composer: Naofumi Hataya
Score: 64/100 (6.9), Sonic CD (JPN/PAL) (13/28)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXT7FzF5gQg" data-time="


Oh my god the low-quality hue hue is so fucking good lol. This one is sooooooo close to being something I really love as well, but is missing... something. I can't really tell what it is I want to hear in here! But of what is here, it's really cool! Sax and piano both sound crisp and sample-y (just how I like em god bless you RF5C164) and the straight use of the motif instead of overly-jazzy like the Present really helps the song to shine. Still a pretty good song!
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banshiryuu
10/29/19 8:33:49 PM
#101:


74th: Knuckles' Chaotix - Midnight Greenhouse (Botanic Base Zone)
Composer: Junko Shiratsu
Score: 64/100 (6.9), Knuckles' Chaotix (5/8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72yQZlbHuko" data-time="


Okay HERE IT IS it's THE casino song but instead its a greenhouse what the heck?? Very relaxing song, honestly its an amazing song the put on in the background... but I have a hard time focusing on it for very long as just a song to actually listen to. So that holds it back for me since I don't usually listen to music purely as background music. I don't think I've commented on the extra channels from the 32X that are used in Chaotix but I generally really really love the dubious-quality percussion samples that are abound in this OST, which... probably isn't a surprise given how I've praised the CD Past songs' samples lol. So close to being something I love a lot!!

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73rd: Sonic & Knuckles - Lava Reef Zone Act 2
Composer: Masayuki Nagao
Score: 64/100 (6.9), Sonic & Knuckles (7/12)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zfRD3JyW90" data-time="


God the intro is absolutely beautiful, I don't think there are many FM pieces that I can think of that match the quality of that kind of sound. Normally I would complain about the "empty feeling" from the lack of percussion, but here... nah, I definitely prefer it that way. The focus on the repeating motif from Act 1, the countermelody that's panned hard right with the echo in the left, the other scaley stuff in the background... it all just flows together so great. It just suffers from another case of "I wish there was so much more"!! Very cool song, it didn't break the 7.0 barrier but I do like it quite a bit.
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