Current Events > Why doesn't Rinoa get more love?

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Panthera posted...

gunplagirl posted...

Anyone who says rinoa has worse limit breaks than Selphie, Laguna, Ward, or Edea is nuts. I think hit wise she still comes out ahead of Kiros, too.

Selphie is theoretically way better. Of course, that is dependent on the RNG actually giving you the win button...which has literally never happened for me across multiple playthroughs

That's just it though, percentile auto win vs what you usually get, as opposed to a guaranteed effect and hit count that's higher
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I have seen The End three times but only successfully used it once due to accidentally skipping it.
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There aren't really a lot of enemies in the game that can facetank a couple of Lionhearts (is that the name? I barely remember), so bickering about who is the best companions to Squall is pretty silly. Just have one of them cast Meltdown and the other cast Aura.
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anth0ny posted...

this topic has made me realize she's a tifa-lite

I just played kh2 and I thought that was Rinoa for a split second. She comes in, kicks and pounds the wall.

cjs28 posted...

Bad_Mojo posted...

She simply isn't good in battle

Every character is just a blank slate for GFs. She's the same as everyone else >_>

No
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Did anyone here play it recently?
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No, the FF8 remaster is half-assed.

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Hexenherz posted...

Honestly Quistis was always my FF8 bae. Something about that hair. And the glasses.

High five!

Honestly, I just always found her annoying, especially since I would have had Squall hook up with Quistis or even Selphie instead of Rinoa.

And then there's whole thing with her having Seifer as an ex. That would be a deal breaker.

Seifer is such an obnoxious, awful character too-- they actually go together in that way.

Rinoa was always superbland, and the relationship is REALLY forced.
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Panthera posted...

Selphie is theoretically way better. Of course, that is dependent on the RNG actually giving you the win button...which has literally never happened for me across multiple playthroughs

the end shows up more frequently the higher her crisis level is which is an invisible stat in the game which affects limit breaks in some ways. if squall is at max crisis level he will do a finisher every time he uses his limit break
if not then then its less common

so using aura will not affect her crisis level and will make the end much harder to get
but if she is in single digit HP, with a negative status effect on her the RNG will throw out the end more often. its still rare but easier to get. but less likely she will survive long enough to use it

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yusiko posted...

the end shows up more frequently the higher her crisis level is which is an invisible stat in the game which affects limit breaks in some ways. if squall is at max crisis level he will do a finisher every time he uses his limit break
if not then then its less common

so using aura will not affect her crisis level and will make the end much harder to get
but if she is in single digit HP, with a negative status effect on her the RNG will throw out the end more often. its still rare but easier to get. but less likely she will survive long enough to use it

You can intentionally just not teach Angelo any moves except for invincible moon which means rinoa is useless most of the game but if you pull it off you can guarantee essentially permanent invulnerability.

It also prevents your status from changing so what I do is have Squall Aura Rinoa, Selphie Aura Squall, Rinoa Invincible Moon, this makes Aura last far longer than it should, and then if Squall's crit is high enough you can essentially spam Lionheart.

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yusiko posted...

Panthera posted...

Selphie is theoretically way better. Of course, that is dependent on the RNG actually giving you the win button...which has literally never happened for me across multiple playthroughs

the end shows up more frequently the higher her crisis level is which is an invisible stat in the game which affects limit breaks in some ways. if squall is at max crisis level he will do a finisher every time he uses his limit break
if not then then its less common

so using aura will not affect her crisis level and will make the end much harder to get
but if she is in single digit HP, with a negative status effect on her the RNG will throw out the end more often. its still rare but easier to get. but less likely she will survive long enough to use it

I'm aware of that mechanic, I've just gotten super RNG screwed with the slots over the years. Granted I don't use Selphie all that much, but even so, it's still remarkably bad luck.
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I beat omega weapon on ps1 no less so that's good enough for me, I was so excited when I took him down.

Panthera posted...

I'm aware of that mechanic, I've just gotten super RNG screwed with the slots over the years. Granted I don't use Selphie all that much, but even so, it's still remarkably bad luck.

all right i just brought it up because until recently i wasnt aware of it
ive been playing the game for years but until just a few months ago i did not know it has a crisis level system like that

rinoa's final angelo limit can apparently break the damage cap but its only used at a high crisis level

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yusiko posted...

so using aura will not affect her crisis level

What? This is exactly what Aura does. But The End is strange and having a higher crisis level will not necessarily make it happen more often.
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Zaltera posted...

What? This is exactly what Aura does. But The End is strange and having a higher crisis level will not necessarily make it happen more often.

i worded it badly. i mean it will be at a low crisis level so squalls finishers, the end, rinoas final angelo limit break are rarer occurances because aura is a low crisis level

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yusiko posted...

Zaltera posted...

What? This is exactly what Aura does. But The End is strange and having a higher crisis level will not necessarily make it happen more often.

i worded it badly. i mean it will be at a low crisis level so squalls finishers, the end, rinoas final angelo limit break are rarer occurances because aura is a low crisis level

Uh I'm not sure what you mean because I would consistently get Squall's strongest finisher every turn with Aura
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Because she seifers throw away and squall acts hardly interested in her. Whats her personality? Nothing.
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scar the 1 posted...

Uh I'm not sure what you mean because I would consistently get Squall's strongest finisher every turn with Aura

Crisis level helps to determine the number of Renzokuken hits and if you will get a finisher or not. With the Lion Heart weapon you have a 25% chance of any of them.
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scar the 1 posted...

Uh I'm not sure what you mean because I would consistently get Squall's strongest finisher every turn with Aura

Lionheart isn't determined by crisis level. It's actually just pure RNG but you can tilt it in your favor by maxing out his crit.

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Quistis>Selphie>Edea>>>>>>>>>a bag of rocks>>>>>Rinoa

I really don't see the issue with her, she is sophisticated kawaii.

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Because shes an idiot. Consistently and dangerously so.

DevsBro posted...

Because they don't understand character development and define her character based on her first appearance.

Same reason many other characters are not appreciated.

What is Rinoas arc? How does her character develop? How different is she from the beginning of the story to the end? Even Kairi is easier to defend than Rinoa, so I look forward to being educated.
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Rinoa belongs in space.
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Rinoa is the video game equivalent of a manic pixie dream girl. She was annoying as shit and caused so much trouble. She also enabled squall and his incessant teen angst.

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pres_madagascar posted...

Rinoa is the video game equivalent of a manic pixie dream girl. She was annoying as shit and caused so much trouble. She also enabled squall and his incessant teen angst.

I support you in this endeavor.
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She gets a ton of love, just like every other FF heroine. She just has more vocal haters.
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KeeperOfShadows posted...

She gets a ton of love, just like every other FF heroine. She just has more vocal haters.

Because she's useless and a trope. Quistis and selphie both were better and actually decent characters.

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VIII as a whole gets way too much flack
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Ving_Rhames posted...

Because shes an idiot. Consistently and dangerously so.

DevsBro posted...

Because they don't understand character development and define her character based on her first appearance.

Same reason many other characters are not appreciated.

What is Rinoas arc? How does her character develop? How different is she from the beginning of the story to the end? Even Kairi is easier to defend than Rinoa, so I look forward to being educated.

For starters, she doesn't call anybody "meanie" in the latter half of the story. She's lost her innocence. She's stopped trying to play grown-up and tried to take responsibility.
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she gets plenty
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rinoa is very popular in japan
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DevsBro posted...

For starters, she doesn't call anybody "meanie" in the latter half of the story. She's lost her innocence. She's stopped trying to play grown-up and tried to take responsibility.

She's a manic pixie dream girl trope, a damsel in distress trope, and the cause of virtually every problem in the entire game entirely by just existing. Literally, if she was killed in disc 1, 90% of the game wouldn't happen and ultimecia would not have come into the world.

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pres_madagascar posted...

Because she's useless and a trope. Quistis and selphie both were better and actually decent characters.

She might be a trope but Quistis is a trepe.

I'll go show myself out now.

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pres_madagascar posted...

She's a manic pixie dream girl trope, a damsel in distress trope, and the cause of virtually every problem in the entire game entirely by just existing. Literally, if she was killed in disc 1, 90% of the game wouldn't happen and ultimecia would not have come into the world.

Is there anything other than "destiny" and the stability of the time loop that would have kept Ulty from possessing anyone else? Or from continuing to use Edea to trigger time compression instead?

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Hambo the Hog posted...

Is there anything other than "destiny" and the stability of the time loop that would have kept Ulty from possessing anyone else? Or from continuing to use Edea to trigger time compression instead?

Pretty sure edea was just a temporary host, rinoa was the "chosen one", as rinoa was ultimately more powerful, just not trained or awakened or anything

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Hambo the Hog posted...

Is there anything other than "destiny" and the stability of the time loop that would have kept Ulty from possessing anyone else? Or from continuing to use Edea to trigger time compression instead?

I don't think she can just possess anyone.

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