Poll of the Day > I think Watchmen is under appreciated

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FatalAccident
10/20/19 12:44:04 AM
#1:


When I watched it when it first came out I admit it went a bit over my head. But watching it recently again I think it was ahead of its time. The moral questions posed are actually kinda deep. The way it uses a lesser known group in DCs universe with no previous setup or introductory movies is cool too.

And dunno if it was intentional or unientional but it essentially serves as an origin story of dr Manhattan as a villain.

The film was incredible, shame the special effects and CGI were lacking, but more to do with the technology available at the time.
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DevilSummoner1
10/20/19 1:06:02 AM
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FatalAccident posted...
I think Watchmen is under appreciated


agreed

i can't believe it's 10 years old already. damn.
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Aaantlion
10/20/19 1:14:21 AM
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I know *one* poster who certainly underappreciates it =p

I loved it when I saw it in theaters and I've seen it several other times since then. The presentation is amazing and my only complaints are things tied to the source material (ie, the pace slowing to crap during some of the Manhattan stuff). And many of the changes from the source material seemed for the better.

The game is lousy, though.

FatalAccident posted...
And dunno if it was intentional or unientional but it essentially serves as an origin story of dr Manhattan as a villain.


He's really not, though
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ParanoidObsessive
10/20/19 1:40:12 AM
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At the time, the major complaints were that it was too close to the original comic (which was an issue because Zack Snyder was basically reproducing entire panels visually, but didn't necessarily seem to understand everything he was adapting - which has since become a much more common complaint about Zack Snyder), that it cut out too much of the extra material that made some aspects of the story weaker (because there was too much material to adapt the full 12 issues into a 2-1/2 hour movie, but some scenes lacked context because of what was cut), or people hated the ending because it was such a severe change from the comic (based on the argument that demonizing Dr. Manhattan rather than the weird alien space squid it weakens the logic that the nations of the world would band together to fight against a new threat).

What really hurt it with mainstream audiences is that the trailers were deliberately designed to make it look like a typical comic book movie along the veins of X-Men, when it was actual a cynical deconstruction of those types of movies, which annoyed people due to the mood whiplash.

That being said, I didn't hate the movie when it came out. It definitely had some nice moments, and presented the story adequately. Though there were also parts of it I disliked, and I wasn't left thinking I'd seen the greatest superhero movie ever made or anything.
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Aaantlion
10/20/19 1:44:16 AM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
(because there was too much material to adapt the full 12 issues into a 2-1/2 hour movie, but some scenes lacked context because of what was cut),


Nobody is missing Tales of the Black Freighter, though. >_>
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ParanoidObsessive
10/20/19 1:49:41 AM
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Aaantlion posted...
Nobody is missing Tales of the Black Freighter, though. >_>

Some people do. Especially because it's literally a metaphor for the entire rest of the story.
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Monopoman
10/20/19 1:57:15 AM
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Don't worry the HBO series which starts in a few days will likely do Watchmen right, I expect a much more faithful adaptation of the comic book.

The movie was okay but it really didn't pull off the source material when Watchmen is considered one of the greatest graphic novels of all time.
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DeltaBladeX
10/20/19 2:10:10 AM
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Aaantlion posted...
The game is lousy, though.

Better than the Kick-Ass 2 game (never played the first though). I never finished the first level in Kick-Ass 2, the game was too broken to let me continue.
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darcandkharg31
10/20/19 2:12:12 AM
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Monopoman posted...
I expect a much more faithful adaptation of the comic book.

Uhm, I never read the books, but based off some things I read online about the show you're gonna be pretty disappointed
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Monopoman
10/20/19 2:38:56 AM
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darcandkharg31 posted...
Monopoman posted...
I expect a much more faithful adaptation of the comic book.

Uhm, I never read the books, but based off some things I read online about the show you're gonna be pretty disappointed

Yeah they are changing some stuff but even just having the time to really focus on things will help the movie just moves way too fast it should have been 2-3 movies at least.
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Aaantlion
10/20/19 2:55:23 AM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
Aaantlion posted...
Nobody is missing Tales of the Black Freighter, though. >_>

Some people do. Especially because it's literally a metaphor for the entire rest of the story.


I'm sure they could have also forced in even longer, more apropos time-wasting metaphors to act as filler to artificially push the series' run, but that doesn't mean Black Freighter isn't a fucking wast

Monopoman posted...
darcandkharg31 posted...
Monopoman posted...
I expect a much more faithful adaptation of the comic book.

Uhm, I never read the books, but based off some things I read online about the show you're gonna be pretty disappointed

Yeah they are changing some stuff but even just having the time to really focus on things will help the movie just moves way too fast it should have been 2-3 movies at least.


There's no way that it should have been 3 movies.
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ParanoidObsessive
10/20/19 3:07:51 AM
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Aaantlion posted...
I'm sure they could have also forced in even longer, more apropos time-wasting metaphors to act as filler to artificially push the series' run, but that doesn't mean Black Freighter isn't a fucking waste.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you.

But there were definitely people who were bothered by the fact that it was left out, and who suggested it weakened the overall story because it wasn't there. That's part of why the motion comic got released around the same time.
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FrozenBananas
10/20/19 5:29:16 AM
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Monopoman posted...
Don't worry the HBO series which starts in a few days will likely do Watchmen right, I expect a much more faithful adaptation of the comic book.

The movie was okay but it really didn't pull off the source material when Watchmen is considered one of the greatest graphic novels of all time.


From the sounds of it, the hbo show will be a sort of sequel / spin off to the novel / movie. Either way I think itll have the heart of original story.

FatalAccident posted...
The film was incredible, shame the special effects and CGI were lacking, but more to do with the technology available at the time.


The CGI was fantastic for its time and I think still holds up today, I think its one of the few strong points of the movie. I love the movie and I love the soundtrack especially. Zack Snyder was really smart for making the choices he did. Hes a really underrated director in my opinion.
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LeetCheet
10/20/19 6:27:09 AM
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dragon504
10/20/19 1:54:35 PM
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I will always be salty about it. Was annoyed and distracted the entire movie, because the theater never turned down the lights.
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blackhrt
10/21/19 11:29:28 PM
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FatalAccident posted...
When I watched it when it first came out I admit it went a bit over my head. But watching it recently again I think it was ahead of its time. The moral questions posed are actually kinda deep. The way it uses a lesser known group in DCs universe with no previous setup or introductory movies is cool too.

And dunno if it was intentional or unientional but it essentially serves as an origin story of dr Manhattan as a villain.

The film was incredible, shame the special effects and CGI were lacking, but more to do with the technology available at the time.


Some people just probably weren't ready for those type of characters. There are people even now that don't even know that movie was a comic book movie (same with Kick Ass).
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Mead
10/21/19 11:41:04 PM
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Inky face and the bright blue dick

Great movie
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Pus_N_Pecans
10/22/19 12:01:49 AM
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I thought it was a misguided hack job. It does manage to condense the key plot points surprisingly well, but the direction of that plot is absolutely miserable and completely misses the point.

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Metalsonic66
10/22/19 12:06:36 AM
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Manhattan should have had a deeper voice and Ozy should have been played by someone who actually looks somewhat strong and intimidating

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blackhrt
10/22/19 12:16:51 AM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
Manhattan should have had a deeper voice and Ozy should have been played by someone who actually looks somewhat strong and intimidating


Watchmen is DC Comics not Marvel. everyone can't be Incredible Hulk. :P
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Aaantlion
10/22/19 12:49:10 AM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
Ozy should have been played by someone who actually looks somewhat strong and intimidating


That really goes against the character.
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Metalsonic66
10/22/19 1:53:42 AM
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blackhrt posted...
Watchmen is DC Comics not Marvel. everyone can't be Incredible Hulk. :P
What does that have to do with anything? I didn't say he should be massive.

Aaantlion posted...
That really goes against the character.
It is a defining element of the character bro

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WoIverine
10/22/19 2:31:36 AM
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Personally I find it overrated.
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Aaantlion
10/22/19 5:40:26 AM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
Aaantlion posted...
That really goes against the character.
It is a defining element of the character bro


Look at his original comic costume and ask yourself who could be intimidated by that?
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FatalAccident
10/22/19 6:17:27 AM
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WoIverine posted...
Personally I find it overrated.

you would
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JOExHIGASHI
10/22/19 12:26:42 PM
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My favorite live action superhero movie. The comic was overrated imo
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
10/22/19 1:26:17 PM
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It was possibly the best movie Snyder has made, and remains a visual masterpiece. The opening sequence, which takes some of the Minutemen's history and sets it to "The Times They Are A'Changin" was a stroke of brilliance.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
10/22/19 1:29:01 PM
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FrozenBananas posted...
Monopoman posted...
Don't worry the HBO series which starts in a few days will likely do Watchmen right, I expect a much more faithful adaptation of the comic book.

The movie was okay but it really didn't pull off the source material when Watchmen is considered one of the greatest graphic novels of all time.


From the sounds of it, the hbo show will be a sort of sequel / spin off to the novel / movie. Either way I think itll have the heart of original story.

It's a sequel, set in the present (2019).
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Metalsonic66
10/22/19 6:04:15 PM
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Aaantlion posted...
Look at his original comic costume and ask yourself who could be intimidated by that?
What does his costume have to do with his demeanor or physical build?

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Aaantlion
10/22/19 7:45:28 PM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
Aaantlion posted...
Look at his original comic costume and ask yourself who could be intimidated by that?
What does his costume have to do with his demeanor or physical build?


...his original costume hid his physical build in addition to giving him a less-than-threatening appearance thus suggesting his demeanor wasn't threatening either. Out of the entire group, he was the least intimidating member.
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Metalsonic66
10/22/19 8:58:09 PM
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The comic made it a point to show how strong he was and how he kept in shape over the years unlike some of the others. He wasn't supposed to look weak by any means. And his costume was meant to make him look "godly".

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