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CedarPointcp 10/19/19 7:05:26 PM #1:	visible scratches on them? How often does this happen to you? --- "Ah, you most likely know it as Myanmar but it'll always be Burma to me" <cite>CedarPointcp posted [p:928982201] in Do you hav... [t:78097637]...</cite> <quote>visible scratches on them? How often does this happen to you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 10/19/19 7:08:46 PM #2:	Ive never had any disc fail. https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2014/08/18/340716269/how-long-do-cds-last-it-depends-but-definitely-not-forever --- "Her name is fitting." <cite>zebatov posted [p:928982307] in Do you hav... [t:78097637]...</cite> <quote>Ive never had any disc fail. https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2014/08/18/340716269/how-long-do-cds-last-it-depends-but-definitely-not-forever</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeltaBladeX 10/19/19 7:24:23 PM #3:	My copy of Ratchet Gladiator / Deadlocked is done, but that is the only DVD I have in such a state that I'm aware of. Had older CDs suffer disc rot though. --- I'm not lazy, I just don't care http://backloggery.com/DeltaBladeXNZ - https://steamcommunity.com/id/DeltaBladeX <cite>DeltaBladeX posted [p:928982768] in Do you hav... [t:78097637]...</cite> <quote>My copy of Ratchet Gladiator / Deadlocked is done, but that is the only DVD I have in such a state that I'm aware of. Had older CDs suffer disc rot though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 10/21/19 3:33:33 PM #4:	None of my retail CDs or DVDs have had issues, though I've had data decay on CD-ROMs I've burned myself. Some of my back-up discs from ~15-20 years or so ago have had issues. If memory serves standard DVDs are supposed to last somewhere in the range of 70 years or so. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:929057019] in Do you hav... [t:78097637]...</cite> <quote>None of my retail CDs or DVDs have had issues, though I've had data decay on CD-ROMs I've burned myself. Some of my back-up discs from ~15-20 years or so ago have had issues. If memory serves standard DVDs are supposed to last somewhere in the range of 70 years or so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 10/21/19 3:34:56 PM #5:	Data rot is a thing. Its one of the reasons I dont really care about having physical versions of games. Those discs wont last forever. --- More malicious than mischievous <cite>Mead posted [p:929057080] in Do you hav... [t:78097637]...</cite> <quote>Data rot is a thing. Its one of the reasons I dont really care about having physical versions of games. Those discs wont last forever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 10/21/19 3:42:17 PM #6:	Mead posted... Data rot is a thing. Its one of the reasons I dont really care about having physical versions of games. Those discs wont last forever. Most of them will last longer than the people who own them, though, which is more than you can say for most online services and servers. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:929057376] in Do you hav... [t:78097637]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Data rot is a thing. Its one of the reasons I dont really care about having physical versions of games. Those discs wont last forever.</quote> Most of them will last longer than the people who own them, though, which is more than you can say for most online services and servers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 10/21/19 3:45:53 PM #7:	ParanoidObsessive posted... Mead posted... Data rot is a thing. Its one of the reasons I dont really care about having physical versions of games. Those discs wont last forever. Most of them will last longer than the people who own them, though, which is more than you can say for most online services and servers. Its unpredictable though. Some arent gonna last anywhere near that long and some might last far longer. Better to just accept that everything is impermanent in my opinion. --- More malicious than mischievous <cite>Mead posted [p:929057504] in Do you hav... [t:78097637]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Data rot is a thing. Its one of the reasons I dont really care about having physical versions of games. Those discs wont last forever.</quote> Most of them will last longer than the people who own them, though, which is more than you can say for most online services and servers.</quote> Its unpredictable though. Some arent gonna last anywhere near that long and some might last far longer. Better to just accept that everything is impermanent in my opinion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/21/19 3:48:37 PM #8:	Mead posted... ParanoidObsessive posted... Mead posted... Data rot is a thing. Its one of the reasons I dont really care about having physical versions of games. Those discs wont last forever. Most of them will last longer than the people who own them, though, which is more than you can say for most online services and servers. Its unpredictable though. Some arent gonna last anywhere near that long and some might last far longer. Better to just accept that everything is impermanent in my opinion. That's why I started using cloud data for backups. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:929057626] in Do you hav... [t:78097637]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Data rot is a thing. Its one of the reasons I dont really care about having physical versions of games. Those discs wont last forever.</quote> Most of them will last longer than the people who own them, though, which is more than you can say for most online services and servers.</quote> Its unpredictable though. Some arent gonna last anywhere near that long and some might last far longer. Better to just accept that everything is impermanent in my opinion.</quote> That's why I started using cloud data for backups.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 10/21/19 4:03:04 PM #9:	Mead posted... Better to just accept that everything is impermanent in my opinion. True, but if everything is impermanent then it stops being a question of permanence and becomes a question of duration. ie, the better option is the one that has the highest probability of lasting longer. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:929058260] in Do you hav... [t:78097637]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Better to just accept that everything is impermanent in my opinion.</quote> True, but if everything is impermanent then it stops being a question of permanence and becomes a question of duration. ie, the better option is the one that has the highest probability of lasting longer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 10/21/19 6:16:58 PM #10:	Mead posted... Data rot is a thing. Its one of the reasons I dont really care about having physical versions of games. Those discs wont last forever. I thought they last decades though at least. Like 50 or 60 years <cite>Zikten posted [p:929063823] in Do you hav... [t:78097637]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Data rot is a thing. Its one of the reasons I dont really care about having physical versions of games. Those discs wont last forever.</quote> I thought they last decades though at least. Like 50 or 60 years</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DPsx7 10/21/19 6:18:46 PM #11:	Mead posted... ParanoidObsessive posted... Mead posted... Data rot is a thing. Its one of the reasons I dont really care about having physical versions of games. Those discs wont last forever. Most of them will last longer than the people who own them, though, which is more than you can say for most online services and servers. Its unpredictable though. Some arent gonna last anywhere near that long and some might last far longer. Better to just accept that everything is impermanent in my opinion. Given the choice, I'll have more control over how long my games last on disc than hoping servers stay up. So far I've not had any issues with my discs other than some very cheap CDR's where the data layer wasn't part of the 'sandwich'. After so many trips in and out of the wallet the top scratched/flaked off and took my music with it. Data rot is just hype from cloud based companies. Discs, properly cared for, will last longer than we need them to. That's all I ask for. --- If you're mod, GTFO. You have no authority over me anymore. Your permission has been revoked, thanks. <cite>DPsx7 posted [p:929063891] in Do you hav... [t:78097637]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Data rot is a thing. Its one of the reasons I dont really care about having physical versions of games. Those discs wont last forever.</quote> Most of them will last longer than the people who own them, though, which is more than you can say for most online services and servers.</quote> Its unpredictable though. Some arent gonna last anywhere near that long and some might last far longer. Better to just accept that everything is impermanent in my opinion.</quote> Given the choice, I'll have more control over how long my games last on disc than hoping servers stay up. So far I've not had any issues with my discs other than some very cheap CDR's where the data layer wasn't part of the 'sandwich'. After so many trips in and out of the wallet the top scratched/flaked off and took my music with it. Data rot is just hype from cloud based companies. Discs, properly cared for, will last longer than we need them to. That's all I ask for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeltaBladeX 10/21/19 6:54:38 PM #12:	Zikten posted... Mead posted... Data rot is a thing. Its one of the reasons I dont really care about having physical versions of games. Those discs wont last forever. I thought they last decades though at least. Like 50 or 60 years That is an estimated average. DPsx7 posted... Data rot is just hype from cloud based companies. Discs, properly cared for, will last longer than we need them to. That's all I ask for. I look after my stuff, and it has happened to a PS2 disc that is only around 15 years old. --- I'm not lazy, I just don't care http://backloggery.com/DeltaBladeXNZ - https://steamcommunity.com/id/DeltaBladeX <cite>DeltaBladeX posted [p:929065302] in Do you hav... [t:78097637]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Data rot is a thing. Its one of the reasons I dont really care about having physical versions of games. Those discs wont last forever.</quote> I thought they last decades though at least. Like 50 or 60 years</quote> That is an estimated average. DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>Data rot is just hype from cloud based companies. Discs, properly cared for, will last longer than we need them to. That's all I ask for.</quote> I look after my stuff, and it has happened to a PS2 disc that is only around 15 years old.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 10/21/19 7:17:35 PM #13:	I'm not sure I've observed it so far. Even the ones with discoloration have still seemed to play. I've avoided buying ones where the color has started to turn black, though, since that seems like something has pretty seriously gone wrong with it. Normal discoloration -- where it just looks a shade different -- I'm pretty leery about as well. Granted, I've picked up a lot of used movies, shows, and games, so I might own some with issues that I have yet to discover the problem. ParanoidObsessive posted... If memory serves standard DVDs are supposed to last somewhere in the range of 70 years or so. And the decay happens regardless of care? ParanoidObsessive posted... Mead posted... Data rot is a thing. Its one of the reasons I dont really care about having physical versions of games. Those discs wont last forever. Most of them will last longer than the people who own them, though, which is more than you can say for most online services and servers. Well, that's depressing. ParanoidObsessive posted... True, but if everything is impermanent then it stops being a question of permanence and becomes a question of duration. ie, the better option is the one that has the highest probability of lasting longer. The only kinda plus is that media today will likely always exist somewhere in some form and generally be more available to the public. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:929066208] in Do you hav... [t:78097637]...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure I've observed it so far. Even the ones with discoloration have still seemed to play. I've avoided buying ones where the color has started to turn black, though, since that seems like something has pretty seriously gone wrong with it. Normal discoloration -- where it just looks a shade different -- I'm pretty leery about as well. Granted, I've picked up a lot of used movies, shows, and games, so I might own some with issues that I have yet to discover the problem. ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>If memory serves standard DVDs are supposed to last somewhere in the range of 70 years or so.</quote> And the decay happens regardless of care? ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Data rot is a thing. Its one of the reasons I dont really care about having physical versions of games. Those discs wont last forever.</quote> Most of them will last longer than the people who own them, though, which is more than you can say for most online services and servers.</quote> Well, that's depressing. ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>True, but if everything is impermanent then it stops being a question of permanence and becomes a question of duration. ie, the better option is the one that has the highest probability of lasting longer.</quote> The only kinda plus is that media today will likely always exist somewhere in some form and generally be more available to the public.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DPsx7 10/21/19 7:51:56 PM #14:	DeltaBladeX posted... I look after my stuff, and it has happened to a PS2 disc that is only around 15 years old. This is what makes it tough, what's different about that one disc? I mean is it a different region, bootleg, rerun, or anything unusual? I'll admit I use my older music CD's more often than my classic games because of my backlog, but unless I magically find something that won't play on functional hardware I haven't seen anything go bad outside of a save battery. Look at how some NES/SNES units discolored because of the chemicals used. I got lucky, mine were unaffected later models. Place or time of production changes things. --- If you're mod, GTFO. You have no authority over me anymore. Your permission has been revoked, thanks. <cite>DPsx7 posted [p:929067679] in Do you hav... [t:78097637]...</cite> <quote>DeltaBladeX posted...</cite> <quote> I look after my stuff, and it has happened to a PS2 disc that is only around 15 years old.</quote> This is what makes it tough, what's different about that one disc? I mean is it a different region, bootleg, rerun, or anything unusual? I'll admit I use my older music CD's more often than my classic games because of my backlog, but unless I magically find something that won't play on functional hardware I haven't seen anything go bad outside of a save battery. Look at how some NES/SNES units discolored because of the chemicals used. I got lucky, mine were unaffected later models. Place or time of production changes things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
green dragon 10/21/19 7:57:02 PM #15:	TBH, I just buy all digital. I don't really care if the servers shut down, because when they do, I'll probably have a pc powerful enough to emulate the desired games . I will say I have been "screwed" by games being removed from online store fronts (the tmnt remake on x360 comes to mind), but tbg, I don't think I would have ever played that game again. I haven't touched my x360 in so many years. The only games I really loved on it were Bayonetta and tales of vesperia, both of which have been ported to other systems --- . <cite>green dragon posted [p:929067883] in Do you hav... [t:78097637]...</cite> <quote>TBH, I just buy all digital. I don't really care if the servers shut down, because when they do, I'll probably have a pc powerful enough to emulate the desired games . I will say I have been "screwed" by games being removed from online store fronts (the tmnt remake on x360 comes to mind), but tbg, I don't think I would have ever played that game again. I haven't touched my x360 in so many years. The only games I really loved on it were Bayonetta and tales of vesperia, both of which have been ported to other systems</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeltaBladeX 10/21/19 8:04:41 PM #16:	DPsx7 posted... This is what makes it tough, what's different about that one disc? I mean is it a different region, bootleg, rerun, or anything unusual? Official and standard Sony PS2 DVD, my copy of Ratchet Gladiator / Deadlocked. System can't read it and you can get those pin prick holes you see with a light. Remember, the 60 - 70 years lifetime that is claimed is both an estimate and an average. You will get some that just won't last. I've seen it more often in older CD games, but even later stuff when manufacturing has been improved aren't ever going to be perfect. --- I'm not lazy, I just don't care http://backloggery.com/DeltaBladeXNZ - https://steamcommunity.com/id/DeltaBladeX <cite>DeltaBladeX posted [p:929068167] in Do you hav... [t:78097637]...</cite> <quote>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>This is what makes it tough, what's different about that one disc? I mean is it a different region, bootleg, rerun, or anything unusual? </quote> Official and standard Sony PS2 DVD, my copy of Ratchet Gladiator / Deadlocked. System can't read it and you can get those pin prick holes you see with a light. Remember, the 60 - 70 years lifetime that is claimed is both an estimate and an average. You will get some that just won't last. I've seen it more often in older CD games, but even later stuff when manufacturing has been improved aren't ever going to be perfect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/21/19 8:23:33 PM #17:	DPsx7 posted... Mead posted... ParanoidObsessive posted... Mead posted... Data rot is a thing. Its one of the reasons I dont really care about having physical versions of games. Those discs wont last forever. Most of them will last longer than the people who own them, though, which is more than you can say for most online services and servers. Its unpredictable though. Some arent gonna last anywhere near that long and some might last far longer. Better to just accept that everything is impermanent in my opinion. Given the choice, I'll have more control over how long my games last on disc than hoping servers stay up. So far I've not had any issues with my discs other than some very cheap CDR's where the data layer wasn't part of the 'sandwich'. After so many trips in and out of the wallet the top scratched/flaked off and took my music with it. Data rot is just hype from cloud based companies. Discs, properly cared for, will last longer than we need them to. That's all I ask for. Did you ever point on the doll where Gabe Newell touched you? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:929068985] in Do you hav... [t:78097637]...</cite> <quote>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Data rot is a thing. Its one of the reasons I dont really care about having physical versions of games. Those discs wont last forever.</quote> Most of them will last longer than the people who own them, though, which is more than you can say for most online services and servers.</quote> Its unpredictable though. Some arent gonna last anywhere near that long and some might last far longer. Better to just accept that everything is impermanent in my opinion.</quote> Given the choice, I'll have more control over how long my games last on disc than hoping servers stay up. So far I've not had any issues with my discs other than some very cheap CDR's where the data layer wasn't part of the 'sandwich'. After so many trips in and out of the wallet the top scratched/flaked off and took my music with it. Data rot is just hype from cloud based companies. Discs, properly cared for, will last longer than we need them to. That's all I ask for.</quote> Did you ever point on the doll where Gabe Newell touched you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeeVees 10/21/19 10:58:15 PM #18:	Not dvd, but I have a saturn game (dynamite deka) fail. Funny enough, the pirated version still works. --- Rudy sucks <cite>VeeVees posted [p:929075851] in Do you hav... [t:78097637]...</cite> <quote>Not dvd, but I have a saturn game (dynamite deka) fail. Funny enough, the pirated version still works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DPsx7 10/21/19 11:44:53 PM #19:	green dragon posted... TBH, I just buy all digital. I don't really care if the servers shut down, because when they do, I'll probably have a pc powerful enough to emulate the desired games . I will say I have been "screwed" by games being removed from online store fronts (the tmnt remake on x360 comes to mind), but tbg, I don't think I would have ever played that game again. I haven't touched my x360 in so many years. The only games I really loved on it were Bayonetta and tales of vesperia, both of which have been ported to other systems Assuming you have the files backed up for emu's. Companies crack down on that and I'm not gonna pay for a fresh digital version each time a new console launches. --- If you're mod, GTFO. You have no authority over me anymore. Your permission has been revoked, thanks. <cite>DPsx7 posted [p:929077585] in Do you hav... [t:78097637]...</cite> <quote>green dragon posted...</cite> <quote>TBH, I just buy all digital. I don't really care if the servers shut down, because when they do, I'll probably have a pc powerful enough to emulate the desired games . I will say I have been "screwed" by games being removed from online store fronts (the tmnt remake on x360 comes to mind), but tbg, I don't think I would have ever played that game again. I haven't touched my x360 in so many years. The only games I really loved on it were Bayonetta and tales of vesperia, both of which have been ported to other systems</quote> Assuming you have the files backed up for emu's. Companies crack down on that and I'm not gonna pay for a fresh digital version each time a new console launches.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DPsx7 10/21/19 11:48:22 PM #20:	Revelation34 posted... DPsx7 posted... Mead posted... ParanoidObsessive posted... Mead posted... Data rot is a thing. Its one of the reasons I dont really care about having physical versions of games. Those discs wont last forever. Most of them will last longer than the people who own them, though, which is more than you can say for most online services and servers. Its unpredictable though. Some arent gonna last anywhere near that long and some might last far longer. Better to just accept that everything is impermanent in my opinion. Given the choice, I'll have more control over how long my games last on disc than hoping servers stay up. So far I've not had any issues with my discs other than some very cheap CDR's where the data layer wasn't part of the 'sandwich'. After so many trips in and out of the wallet the top scratched/flaked off and took my music with it. Data rot is just hype from cloud based companies. Discs, properly cared for, will last longer than we need them to. That's all I ask for. Did you ever point on the doll where Gabe Newell touched you? He crippled a PC then taught me digital gaming sucks and shall never be trusted. I played plenty on PC back then so destroying an entire platform was not easy to do. --- If you're mod, GTFO. You have no authority over me anymore. Your permission has been revoked, thanks. <cite>DPsx7 posted [p:929077706] in Do you hav... [t:78097637]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Data rot is a thing. Its one of the reasons I dont really care about having physical versions of games. Those discs wont last forever.</quote> Most of them will last longer than the people who own them, though, which is more than you can say for most online services and servers.</quote> Its unpredictable though. Some arent gonna last anywhere near that long and some might last far longer. Better to just accept that everything is impermanent in my opinion.</quote> Given the choice, I'll have more control over how long my games last on disc than hoping servers stay up. So far I've not had any issues with my discs other than some very cheap CDR's where the data layer wasn't part of the 'sandwich'. After so many trips in and out of the wallet the top scratched/flaked off and took my music with it. Data rot is just hype from cloud based companies. Discs, properly cared for, will last longer than we need them to. That's all I ask for.</quote> Did you ever point on the doll where Gabe Newell touched you?</quote> He crippled a PC then taught me digital gaming sucks and shall never be trusted. I played plenty on PC back then so destroying an entire platform was not easy to do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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