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cjsdowg
10/19/19 11:34:18 AM
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It is easy to attack her on her ideas and such. However dems have made her out to be a boogeywoman and a Russian agent. And that just makes us look bad. Like anyone who doesn't fall in line must be a Russian agent.

Then they say stuff like oh she loves Assad. Other people out where she called him out. And they they move on to the next thing. All while not explain why Assad is worst then the people we are arming.

Hillary should have kept her mouth shut. She is just making the party look bad and yeah there are going to people who follow her up with out question. I mean Tusli was a damn non factor she was polling like 4% now people are talking about her and looking at these claims like come on.

Also they did the same thing with Sanders, people kept calling Sanders supporter Bots and such. Everyone is a got damn bot to these people.
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Shadow Don
10/19/19 11:37:25 AM
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She thinks the DNC is screwing her the same way they did Bernie in 2016 yet she has polled in the single digits or less since day 1.

She is the one hurting party credibility throwing these stupid fucking tantrums when the reality is people just don't like her as much as the other candidates.
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AFrench2
10/19/19 11:37:34 AM
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Tulsi is hurting the party credibility.

Not the folks attacking her.
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Webmaster4531
10/19/19 11:41:02 AM
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Hillary is a corporate Dem and Biden isn't a front runner anymore. Of course they're going to sabotage the election for Trump.
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
10/19/19 11:42:06 AM
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cjsdowg
10/19/19 11:47:49 AM
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Shadow Don posted...

She is the one hurting party credibility throwing these stupid fucking tantrums when the reality is people just don't like her as much as the other candidates.


How is she throwing a tantrum but hitting back at people who hit her ?
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gamer167
10/19/19 11:56:43 AM
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The dems are self destructive. If the candidate isnt specifically who THEY want that candidate might as well be literal alt-right Hitler. Because they will be treated as such.
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bkkorps
10/19/19 11:57:00 AM
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shes not going to win, and I dont agree with many of her positions, but nothing she said in that rant was wrong, and the concerted effort by the establishment media to slander her as a russian operative is completely obvious retribution for the 2016 election.
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ThyCorndog
10/19/19 11:57:14 AM
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I can't take anyone that calls her a russian asset seriously

the russian shit has really gotten into people's psyche
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LostForest
10/19/19 11:57:51 AM
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Tbqh as a moderate looking in on this from the outside, I get the feeling that most Democrats only hate her because she's a moderate herself.
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Phantom_Nook
10/19/19 11:57:55 AM
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Gabbard goes on TV and says the other Dem candidates hate America. But attacking her hurts the party!
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Tryhaptaward
10/19/19 11:58:28 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
Shadow Don posted...

She is the one hurting party credibility throwing these stupid fucking tantrums when the reality is people just don't like her as much as the other candidates.


How is she throwing a tantrum but hitting back at people who hit her ?


Because they're the type of people to say she's throwing a tantrum and going crazy for defending herself when she's being blasted by media and other high-profilers. If she didn't defend herself, they'll be like yep see it's true.
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DarkRoast
10/19/19 12:01:00 PM
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Tulsi isn't the ideal candidate but let's get real, the party establishment wants her out of the race ASAP and this is just their way of doing it.

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Dampproof
10/19/19 12:07:41 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Tulsi isn't the ideal candidate but let's get real, the party establishment wants her out of the race ASAP and this is just their way of doing it. Frankly, I think she'd easily beat Trump but that's not saying much.

It doesn't help that the media, while not as badly as Fox and the GOP, licks the boots of the DNC establishment. Then all the late night comedians and talking head op-ed shows use the same set of talking points so they all seem like they're on the same page on an issue (making it seem more legitimate and serious than it otherwise would've been)


You say that like she even had a chance at actually winning. This isn't a screw job by the DNC, her own polling numbers barely make her a top 5 candidate. This sort of kicking and screaming tantrum is just a desperate attempt to stay in the media cycle.
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DarkRoast
10/19/19 12:11:23 PM
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Dampproof posted...
You say that like she even had a chance at actually winning. This isn't a screw job by the DNC, her own polling numbers barely make her a top 5 candidate. This sort of kicking and screaming tantrum is just a desperate attempt to stay in the media cycle.


Honestly there are just too many people still in the race and it's creating a situation kinda like 2016 for the GOP, where the voterbase interest is so fragmented that whoever takes up the most amount of media coverage will probably take the lead by the primaries, regardless of whether or not people actually like the candidate.

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cjsdowg
10/19/19 12:11:35 PM
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Once more how is this a tantrum. She was attacked and she attacked back.
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hockeybub89
10/19/19 12:12:32 PM
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Tulsa has literally never had a legitimate shot of winning since day 0.
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DarkRoast
10/19/19 12:14:44 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Tulsa has literally never had a legitimate shot of winning since day 0.


You would think after 2016 we would be a little more cautious about saying things like this.

Lest you forget, Trump was universally hated by the GOP establishment all the way until basically the convention.

Even Tulsi doesn't have that kind of establishment opposition.

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UnholyMudcrab
10/19/19 12:15:01 PM
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Gabbard has been endorsed by David Duke. That's really all you need to know
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KILBOTz
10/19/19 12:33:25 PM
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Dems dont want any diversity of thought even within their own party. They want a monolithic block of voters.

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TomNook20
10/19/19 12:36:59 PM
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The dems are a mess and for some reason are in love with establishment assholes like biden and hillary.

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hockeybub89
10/19/19 12:40:22 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Tulsa has literally never had a legitimate shot of winning since day 0.


You would think after 2016 we would be a little more cautious about saying things like this.

Lest you forget, Trump was universally hated by the GOP establishment all the way until basically the convention.

Even Tulsi doesn't have that kind of establishment opposition.

Uh.. statistical outliers aren't going to make me more cautious of stating statistics. And the underdog Republican nominee winning against the Democrat nominee is a little different than some deep Democrat also-ran springboarding more than half a dozen Democrats in the 11th hour and stealing the win. That would a win for the ages, but it is still highly improbable and I will treat it as such until if and when I am surprised

We need to stop acting like the laws of the universe have been invalidated because a statistically unlikely thing happened in a recent US election.

Surprised we haven't seen a sharp increase in daredevils.

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TheMikh
10/19/19 12:43:47 PM
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i stopped supporting the party over the democrats going full neocon over syria in 2013

gabbard is the only politician with the potential to restore my faith in it

even then i need to be convinced this drama between her and the party isn't just an elaborate political stage play

i would probably identify with the dsa by now if i hadn't started reading economics for fun after going rogue
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The Great Muta 22
10/19/19 12:45:03 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Tulsa has literally never had a legitimate shot of winning since day 0.


You would think after 2016 we would be a little more cautious about saying things like this.

Lest you forget, Trump was universally hated by the GOP establishment all the way until basically the convention.

Even Tulsi doesn't have that kind of establishment opposition.


Except Trump was always polling with a large enough base and had enough support that he should have been taken as a legitimate contender in the field. He declared in June 2015 and by the end of July he was polling higher than anyone else and in the low to mid 20s, and it quickly hit 30s by the end of summer. Tulsi hasn't ever come anything close to that type of support.

As for this whole idiocy, both Tulsi and the Democratic Clinton establishment wing are both idiots and people don't have to pick a side here. They both suck.
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Smashingpmkns
10/19/19 12:45:48 PM
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Calling a candidate a Russian asset with no proof is pretty fucked up tbh. Especially when that candidate is a National Guard major lol
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The Great Muta 22
10/19/19 12:46:31 PM
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KILBOTz posted...
Dems dont want any diversity of thought even within their own party. They want a monolithic block of voters.


Lmao you have this whole thing reversed.
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KILBOTz
10/19/19 12:58:55 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
Lmao you have this whole thing reversed.


Hardly. The GOP has a coalition of:

Religious right
Veterans and pro-military folks
Business interests

They set a policy that touches on the stuff all those special interests care about.

The democrats set their policy and then get angry when the demographics they thought they had a lock down on don't vote for them and then blame them for the republicans winning.


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iPhone_7
10/19/19 1:09:47 PM
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I find it weird that she had spoken positively of Putin and went to Syria to have an unofficial meeting with their dictator.

I find it weird how she keeps blaming the Syrian civil war on the U.S. for its attempted regime change instead of the dictator Assad who responded with his countrys Arab Spring by cracking down on the protesters who wanted democratic reforms. Time & time again shes needed to be pressed on the issue by journalists to denounce Assad or Putin.

And then theres all the support shes shown by rightwingers & alt-righters which is another red flag.

But I think it was inappropriate for Hillary to insinuate that Tulsi & Jill Stein are Russian assets of being groomed to be assets just because Russian trolls keep posting positive stuff about them.

Theres a cycle in which she & the democratic establishment go at each other, her claiming a mass conspiracy about all of the criticism against her being a concentrated effort to smear her, and the right increasingly supporting her.
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tennisdude818
10/19/19 1:32:17 PM
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Candidates in either party who threaten the military industrial complex are vilified by the corporate media and their own party.

Regardless of how low Tulsi is on the polls, her accurate comments about our role in the Middle East are not supposed to have mainstream exposure. They are too far off script for public consumption.
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bover_87
10/19/19 1:39:15 PM
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maybe she should stop being a joke candidate

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Fuparulez
10/19/19 1:42:52 PM
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Party credibility? What credibility? As of now the Democrats stand for disarming the public, imprisoning political opponents and censoring unapproved political perspectives while making you more dependent on the state, controlling your access to healthcare and reducing your income.

They didn't need Tulsi Gabbards to hurt their credibility, they did that on their own.
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DeadBankerDream
10/19/19 1:45:56 PM
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Fuparulez posted...
Party credibility? What credibility? As of now the Democrats stand for disarming the public, imprisoning political opponents and censoring unapproved political perspectives while making you more dependent on the state, controlling your access to healthcare and reducing your income.

Are you okay?
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Fuparulez
10/19/19 1:46:32 PM
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Huh? What do you refute, there?
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Fuparulez
10/19/19 1:48:36 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Hillary was stupid to say what she said (and her talking about Tulsi at all is a waste of time for everyone involved) but Tulsi acting like theres a massive conspiracy is also stupid. People just dont like Tulsi because she isnt charismatic and she spends all her debate time trying to call everyone out.


Acting like there's a massive conspiracy is stupid? You don't remember 2016 when the Democrats stole the primary election from Bernie Sanders and gave it to Hillary?
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UnfairRepresent
10/19/19 1:49:05 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
Shadow Don posted...
She is the one hurting party credibility

AFrench2 posted...
Tulsi is hurting the party credibility.

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Webmaster4531
10/19/19 1:55:20 PM
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Fuparulez posted...
Huh? What do you refute, there?

It's all bullshit. Go back to The_Donald or whatever hole you crawled out of.
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The Great Muta 22
10/19/19 2:00:48 PM
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Fuparulez posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Hillary was stupid to say what she said (and her talking about Tulsi at all is a waste of time for everyone involved) but Tulsi acting like theres a massive conspiracy is also stupid. People just dont like Tulsi because she isnt charismatic and she spends all her debate time trying to call everyone out.


Acting like there's a massive conspiracy is stupid? You don't remember 2016 when the Democrats stole the primary election from Bernie Sanders and gave it to Hillary?


Lmao at your tin foil hat. Call out the DNC favoritism all you want, Hillary still got more votes
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Anteaterking
10/19/19 2:06:37 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Especially when that candidate is a National Guard major lol


What does that have to do with anything?
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cjsdowg
10/19/19 2:11:20 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
I find it weird that she had spoken positively of Putin and went to Syria to have an unofficial meeting with their dictator.

I find it weird how she keeps blaming the Syrian civil war on the U.S. for its attempted regime change instead of the dictator Assad who responded with his countrys Arab Spring by cracking down on the protesters who wanted democratic reforms. Time & time again shes needed to be pressed on the issue by journalists to denounce Assad or Putin.

And then theres all the support shes shown by rightwingers & alt-righters which is another red flag.

But I think it was inappropriate for Hillary to insinuate that Tulsi & Jill Stein are Russian assets of being groomed to be assets just because Russian trolls keep posting positive stuff about them.

Theres a cycle in which she & the democratic establishment go at each other, her claiming a mass conspiracy about all of the criticism against her being a concentrated effort to smear her, and the right increasingly supporting her.


Pelosi met Assad. And we have helped with starting and supporting the Civil War over there. And the people who claim are in their spring are working with terrorist who attacked us on 9/11. I am not endorsing Assad but the side we are supporting a the terrorist in this situation.
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Fuparulez
10/19/19 2:41:32 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Fuparulez posted...
Huh? What do you refute, there?

It's all bullshit. Go back to The_Donald or whatever hole you crawled out of.


Beto O'Rourke didn't push mass gun confiscation? Kamala Harris didn't suggest censoring Trump from Twitter? Rashid Tlaib didn't suggest putting Trump administration officials in jail? Bernie Sanders didn't endorse abolishing private health insurance? Liz Warren didn't support raising taxes on the middle class?

No, that's not bullshit, that's called "reality." The Democrats want to censor you, disarm you, control your healthcare and take your money, IN THEIR OWN WORDS.
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NinjaWarrior455
10/19/19 2:54:16 PM
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Boomers should be banned from posting on gfaqs
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BilalPowell
10/19/19 3:29:39 PM
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Russia is so 2016. Now China's gonna rig the election.
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Antifar
10/19/19 3:32:24 PM
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Fuparulez posted...
Rashid Tlaib didn't suggest putting Trump administration officials in jail?

Not touching the rest of this, but Trump administration officials are already in jail.
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10/19/19 3:35:08 PM
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Fuparulez posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Fuparulez posted...
Huh? What do you refute, there?

It's all bullshit. Go back to The_Donald or whatever hole you crawled out of.


Beto O'Rourke didn't push mass gun confiscation? Kamala Harris didn't suggest censoring Trump from Twitter? Rashid Tlaib didn't suggest putting Trump administration officials in jail? Bernie Sanders didn't endorse abolishing private health insurance? Liz Warren didn't support raising taxes on the middle class?

No, that's not bullshit, that's called "reality." The Democrats want to censor you, disarm you, control your healthcare and take your money, IN THEIR OWN WORDS.


Trump suggested keeping people from seeing his twitter, several Trump admin officials are in jail, health insurance as it is already takes your money, Keynesian approach to tax just increases the deficit

stop your crazy.
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AdviceMan
10/19/19 3:39:45 PM
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It must suck to be linked with no proof to people who speak highly of and you have relationships with no clear cut evidence of foul play.

Oh wait, that's what happened to Hillary her whole political career. And NOW people on CE want to pretend that we need clear cut evidence to link people to unsavory characters. Please. People love speculating and they hate it when their guy/gal gets speculated about, this has happened in politics forever, and now suddenly the green party and Tulsi Gabbard are clutching their collective pearls.
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iPhone_7
10/19/19 3:48:32 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Pelosi met Assad. And we have helped with starting and supporting the Civil War over there.
The meeting was as a congressional delegation with several members of Congress, and also they delivered a message on behalf of Israels PM about starting peace talks. And it was in 2007, 4 years before Assad starting massacring people & using chemical weapons.

And the people who claim are in their spring are working with terrorist who attacked us on 9/11. I am not endorsing Assad but the side we are supporting a the terrorist in this situation.

It was a clusterf*** with several different groups. The warhawks were demanding further U.S. intervention and the Obama administration hesitated to jump into the conflict. Last thing he wanted was to follow Bushs actions and drag us into another decade long war.

But Tulsis meeting with Assad did nothing except for him to propagandize it to maintain what legitimacy he still had
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Webmaster4531
10/19/19 3:52:15 PM
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Fuparulez posted...
Beto O'Rourke didn't push for disarming the public.

He didn't.

Fuparulez posted...
Kamala Harris didn't suggest censoring Trump from Twitter?

She's trying to save a senile old man from embarrassment.

Fuparulez posted...
Bernie Sanders didn't endorse abolishing private health insurance?

His plan bans duplicative coverage. I don't agree with it.

Fuparulez posted...
Warren didn't support raising taxes on the middle class?

.01% is middle class and small business to people like you.
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