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aDirtyShisno
10/17/19 1:53:08 AM
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https://kluv.radio.com/blogs/miles-morning/youth-football-coach-fined-500-after-teams-blowout-win

The youth football head coach of the Conshohocken Golden Bears, Kyle Williams, faces a $500 fine and a 2 game suspension because the team, which is comprised up entirely of children no older than 7 years old, won by too many points. The Keystone Sports League, which the Bears are a part of, has a rule that no team is allowed to win by more than 30 points, a rule that was violated by the team.

The Bears were in the lead 30 - 0 with 2 minutes left in the game when Coach Williams called a timeout to pull out all of his starting lineup and replace them with younger players who usually were not fielded during games. When gameplay resumed an unidentified 5 year old player on the Bears got hold of the ball and made his way towards the opposing goal. Coach Williams ran on the sidelines of the field along with the player begging him to fall down and not score, as he was aware he would be in violation of the rules if the player scored, but the player made the touchdown anyway, ending the game 36 - 0.

The punishment was brought into the public limelight when coach Williams brother-in-law and former Philadelphia Eagles player, Torrey Smith, tweeted his disdain for the leagues decision.

The president of the Bears executive board has publicly stated that the board does not condone Williams choice to run the play which lead to the violation.

Despite begging the player to avoid the violating touchdown, Willians has responded to the outrage with I have three sons. I'm not gonna tell my son, especially if he's running the ball, 'Don't go out there and give it your all.'"
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Mead
10/17/19 1:58:24 AM
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what a dumb rule
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Muscles
10/17/19 2:02:30 AM
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I can understand they don't want teams running up the score on kids, but if you are putting the backups in clearly you aren't running up the score
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BlackScythe0
10/17/19 2:06:41 AM
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This guy did his best to follow the rules. He wasn't being a jack ass, which is what this rule is clearly there to stop. That was very excessive punishment on him. Why is it his fault the other team sucked so bad they couldn't stop inferior players? His fault a child ignored him in the midst of a game?
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aDirtyShisno
10/17/19 2:08:44 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
This guy did his best to follow the rules. He wasn't being a jack ass, which is what this rule is clearly there to stop. That was very excessive punishment on him. Why is it his fault the other team sucked so bad they couldn't stop inferior players? His fault a child ignored him in the midst of a game?

Im guessing from their point of view he shouldve ran onto the field and tackled his own player to prevent the touchdown, or something...
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Krow_Incarnate
10/17/19 2:27:17 AM
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This is what the NFL will eventually become when the Soccer Moms finish having their way.

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InfestedAdam
10/17/19 3:16:07 AM
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I am not familiar with sports across the board but I thought there are some with "gentleman" rules that addresses situations like this when one team is slaughtering the other? Or is this only among the professional sports?
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zebatov
10/17/19 3:51:07 AM
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Dimebag got banned from entering guitar competitions because the other kids didnt stand a chance.

Okay now that Ive actually read the post and not just the title... what are they supposed to do when they hit thirty points? Stop playing while the others score?
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final_lap
10/17/19 3:57:20 AM
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That sounds awful for the kid who scored the touchdown.

As for the losing team. Sucks to lose and all and I can understand the desire not to hurt the kids feelings or self esteem. But if you lost 0-30 anyway does it really make a difference if you lost 0-36? Jeez..
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Blaqthourne
10/17/19 4:15:28 AM
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If that's such a big issue, intitute a mercy rule. As it is, they're already telling the team that's winning to stop playing.
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darkknight109
10/17/19 4:59:55 AM
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Blaqthourne posted...
If that's such a big issue, intitute a mercy rule.

My thoughts exactly.

If you don't want teams running up the score, end the game after they clear 30. Don't tell kids, "OK, you're winning by too much now, so stop trying." That's a terrible message.

I get that you don't want a team of 7-year-olds getting their doors blown off so badly that they lose the desire to ever play the game again... but the rule, as written, is still incredibly dumb.
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Kyuubi4269
10/17/19 5:03:34 AM
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darkknight109 posted...
I get that you don't want a team of 7-year-olds getting their doors blown off so badly that they lose the desire to ever play the game again

I don't; If they're in competition and get absolutely demolished, they never should've entered and their coach is trash for bringing them in to competition they're not remotely ready for. They should lose all desire to play because they have absolutely no hope behind their coach.
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EvilMegas
10/17/19 6:55:42 AM
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What a suprise: Kyuubi not understanding something and being completely robotic.

Why didnt they just stop counting the points after 30?

Also, youth sports are some of the most toxic environments, you would be surprised how many parents get into fights over petty shit. I'm so glad I never have to organize them ever again.
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SunWuKung420
10/17/19 6:57:15 AM
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Dumb ass rule.

Safety net parenting.

But their feelings.
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SkynyrdRocker
10/17/19 7:05:30 AM
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What an absolutely idiotic rule. I played hockey and there was an 8 goal mercy rule (if you went down by 8, the game ended). No reason they can't do the same here if it's such a big deal to not win by more than 30.
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CTLM
10/17/19 7:14:37 AM
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Stupid rule. But the guy should have definitely pulled his starters with more than 2 minutes left in the game. He would have been able to avoid breaking the rule and the younger kids would have gotten more playing time

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SilentSeph
10/17/19 8:21:24 AM
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This would make more sense in Soccer, not American Football. Stupid rule either way.
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StarKnight23
10/17/19 8:41:54 AM
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Why is it always on the coach of the winning team?

This isn't a street fight, the coach of the losing team should admit the loss and come back another day. Why is he letting his team get slaughtered when they are clearly outclassed?

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Philip027
10/17/19 8:48:39 AM
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Stupid rule. Can't handle competition, don't compete.

30 isn't even THAT much of a lead in football.
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darkknight109
10/17/19 9:03:10 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
I don't; If they're in competition and get absolutely demolished, they never should've entered and their coach is trash for bringing them in to competition they're not remotely ready for.

Apparently you don't understand how sports work.

It's not the coach's decision as to whether or not the team plays. You can't just say, "Sorry, team's not ready, we're not going to bother showing up." When the season starts, you're given the dates, times, and locations for your games, and you are expected to be there for game time.
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EvilMegas
10/17/19 9:10:15 AM
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Philip027 posted...
Stupid rule. Can't handle competition, don't compete.

30 isn't even THAT much of a lead in football.

Lol wut
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Black_Crusher
10/17/19 9:49:16 AM
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Mead posted...
what a dumb rule

Don't let the NFL get wind of this, they'll bankrupt Belichick.
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Black_Crusher
10/17/19 9:51:47 AM
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Krow_Incarnate posted...
This is what the NFL will eventually become when the Soccer Moms finish having their way.


It's already started.

The 2007 Patriots were accused of running up the score many times, from crappy defenses that couldn't stop them.
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adjl
10/17/19 9:54:47 AM
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Blaqthourne posted...
If that's such a big issue, intitute a mercy rule. As it is, they're already telling the team that's winning to stop playing.


This. This is exactly the sort of issue mercy rules exist for. Fining and suspending a coach for failing to implement a workaround for the lack of a formal mercy rule is just an absurd cash grab.
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InfestedAdam
10/17/19 10:50:14 AM
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SkynyrdRocker posted...
What an absolutely idiotic rule. I played hockey and there was an 8 goal mercy rule (if you went down by 8, the game ended).

Thank you for that comment. Maybe that is the "gentlemen" rule I was thinking about where if a team is leading by X points and there is only Y minutes left in the game, it is considered an automatic win.
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Lokarin
10/17/19 10:53:22 AM
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Work to rule:

Come one second to winning the match and then have you kid just give up and leave.
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CTLM
10/17/19 11:01:32 AM
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InfestedAdam posted...
Thank you for that comment. Maybe that is the "gentlemen" rule I was thinking about where if a team is leading by X points and there is only Y minutes left in the game, it is considered an automatic win.


Not quite the same but in little league, they have a "5 run" rule where if you score 5 runs in the half inning, teams switch sides and a "15 runs" rule where if a team was up by 15 at any point, coaches could end the game

One team I played on, we routinely had games that ended in the teens for runs for both teams. Won one game 23-22 as well
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Philip027
10/18/19 12:40:23 PM
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Lol wut


I don't call the difference of 5 "scores" (aka touchdowns in this case) to be a lead so massive in any game that it warrants a mercy rule. Maybe closer to 10 scores, or something.
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Raddest_Chad
10/18/19 1:55:13 PM
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Is that the worst league ever? Yes. Learning to lose creates better people than a rigged system built to preserve feelings.
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streamofthesky
10/18/19 8:26:21 PM
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final_lap posted...
That sounds awful for the kid who scored the touchdown.

Yeah, imagine being a little kid who's second string and seldom gets to play.
You're put in the game, and have a chance to score a touchdown! of course you're gonna fucking go for it! Then to have your own coach yelling and pleading w/ you to stop, and it's "your fault" he gets punished? Way to traumatize kids, league!
It's a stupid fucking rule. Period. End the game early if you don't want an excessive blowout, the kids are too young to understand why it is this way and telling the second stringers, "we're putting you in cause you suck, and coach REALLY can't afford our team to score any more" is demoralizing.

CTLM posted...
Stupid rule. But the guy should have definitely pulled his starters with more than 2 minutes left in the game. He would have been able to avoid breaking the rule and the younger kids would have gotten more playing time

Considering the reserve squad was scoring a touchdown so quickly, it may not have even made a difference if they came out earlier. Other team was just that bad.
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Monopoman
10/18/19 8:53:47 PM
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The only way to implement this thing is if you end the game if a team gets a 30 point lead. Expecting the coach to intentionally sabotage his team to the extreme to not score if they are up by 30 is fucking stupid.

What was the coach supposed to do run onto the field and tackle his own player?
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dedbus
10/18/19 10:27:14 PM
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They said this would happen but we didn't listen.
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bulbinking
10/18/19 11:44:37 PM
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Mead posted...
what a dumb rule


I wonder if a man came up with it.
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Ferarri619
10/18/19 11:58:38 PM
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aDirtyShisno posted...
When gameplay resumed an unidentified 5 year old player on the Bears got hold of the ball and made his way towards the opposing goal. Coach Williams ran on the sidelines of the field along with the player begging him to fall down and not score, as he was aware he would be in violation of the rules if the player scored, but the player made the touchdown anyway, ending the game 36 - 0.


I can't stop laughing at this part....xD
And there goes $500 from the poor coach
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Krazy_Kirby
10/19/19 2:48:07 AM
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the other team should have been better then
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WhiskeyDisk
10/19/19 3:14:25 AM
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Has anybody had to work with millennials from this participation trophy mercy rule era?

Do you think any of us are better for it?

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WhiskeyDisk
10/19/19 4:11:06 AM
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Zangulus posted...
WhiskeyDisk posted...
Has anybody had to work with millennials from this participation trophy mercy rule era?


Ok.


Take a swing at me when you're actually employed and know how to wear a belt, ok?
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