Poll of the Day > There's a Democratic Debate right now...

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12 people, 3 hours

Should be a mess

I still like Andrew Yang and hope he makes a good showing tonight.

Hoping Tulsi Gabbard does well enough to survive to the next debate.

Don't expect she'll get more than 5 min to speak tonight, tops.
And half that time will be responding to "Gotcha" bs about her meeting w/ Assad cause CNN doesn't like her.

EDIT: totally disagree with her regarding impeachment, though... Doesn't matter if and when the Senate picks party over country. It's not the Democrats' fault if Republicans divide the country by deciding Trump's above the law.

Are...a bunch of leading democrats actually going with, "automation is a hoax by Donald Trump"?

Really?

Cripes, they're good at finding ways to lose elections...

Heart attack?

Bernie doesnt look like he missed a beat.

Fucking love that guy.
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HornedLion posted...

Heart attack?

Bernie doesnt look like he missed a beat.

Fucking love that guy.

Indeed. But even if he can still push himself like this doesn't mean I want him to.
Genuinely worried for his health, not sure he could handle the stress of being president. Shame he couldn't have been born later or ran for president sooner (or just like...not been screwed over by the DNC in 2016)

Ok, this is a damn good answer by this guy. Tom Steyer, I think it was?

streamofthesky posted...

HornedLion posted...

Heart attack?

Bernie doesnt look like he missed a beat.

Fucking love that guy.

Indeed. But even if he can still push himself like this doesn't mean I want him to.
Genuinely worried for his health, not sure he could handle the stress of being president. Shame he couldn't have been born later or ran for president sooner (or just like...not been screwed over by the DNC in 2016)

Look, If you had one candidate or one opportunity to seize everything you ever wanted... In one moment would you vote for him or just let it slip?


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HornedLion posted...

streamofthesky posted...

HornedLion posted...

Heart attack?

Bernie doesnt look like he missed a beat.

Fucking love that guy.

Indeed. But even if he can still push himself like this doesn't mean I want him to.
Genuinely worried for his health, not sure he could handle the stress of being president. Shame he couldn't have been born later or ran for president sooner (or just like...not been screwed over by the DNC in 2016)

Look, If you had one candidate or one opportunity to seize everything you ever wanted... In one moment would you vote for him or just let it slip?

I'm gonna vote for literally anyone on that stage, whoever wins the nomination.
Every single one of them is infinitely better than Trump.

I just won't be voting for Bernie in the primary, like I did in 2016.

streamofthesky posted...

HornedLion posted...

streamofthesky posted...

HornedLion posted...

Heart attack?

Bernie doesnt look like he missed a beat.

Fucking love that guy.

Indeed. But even if he can still push himself like this doesn't mean I want him to.
Genuinely worried for his health, not sure he could handle the stress of being president. Shame he couldn't have been born later or ran for president sooner (or just like...not been screwed over by the DNC in 2016)

Look, If you had one candidate or one opportunity to seize everything you ever wanted... In one moment would you vote for him or just let it slip?

I'm gonna vote for literally anyone on that stage, whoever wins the nomination.
Every single one of them is infinitely better than Trump.

I just won't be voting for Bernie in the primary, like I did in 2016.

True but... Klobachar comes awfully close to him.
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HornedLion posted...

streamofthesky posted...

HornedLion posted...

streamofthesky posted...

HornedLion posted...

Heart attack?

Bernie doesnt look like he missed a beat.

Fucking love that guy.

Indeed. But even if he can still push himself like this doesn't mean I want him to.
Genuinely worried for his health, not sure he could handle the stress of being president. Shame he couldn't have been born later or ran for president sooner (or just like...not been screwed over by the DNC in 2016)

Look, If you had one candidate or one opportunity to seize everything you ever wanted... In one moment would you vote for him or just let it slip?

I'm gonna vote for literally anyone on that stage, whoever wins the nomination.
Every single one of them is infinitely better than Trump.

I just won't be voting for Bernie in the primary, like I did in 2016.

True but... Klobachar comes awfully close to him.

Haven't paid a ton of attention to her, but there's no fucking way she's "awfully close"...
She wants to: give the rich more tax cuts, destroy the environment, openly pine for the "freedom" enjoyed by authoritarian dictators, take away womens' abortion rights, etc...?

ISIS resulted from Iraq, not the Syrian civil war. It would've been a thing whether we got into Syria or not.

The issue is the Kurds did the bulk of the ground fighting against ISIS and then we fucking abandoned them.

Tulsi's my favorite overall, but that was a pretty cringey answer...

Yang, "We need to tell Russia, 'we get it. we've tampered in elections, too--'..."

NOOOOOO!

Why? Why would you fucking say that?!

"This is really important!"
"This is really important!"
"This is really important!"
"This is really important!"
"This is really important!"

Fucking shit

Was going to say Mayor Pete utterly destroyed Beto there, but then both of them just wouldn't fucking shut up and now I don't care for either.

Think I'm done watching.

HornedLion posted...

Heart attack?

Bernie doesnt look like he missed a beat.

This may be true, but the guys probably one boner away from kicking the bucket.
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I had been hearing and thinking about it day then totally spazzed by the time 8 o'clock hit because some other shit came up. I'll have to catch the replay >_<
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Virtue signaling garbage and more free shit to useless assholes with entitlement issues.

Nothing to see there.
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streamofthesky posted...

ISIS resulted from Iraq, not the Syrian civil war. It would've been a thing whether we got into Syria or not.

The issue is the Kurds did the bulk of the ground fighting against ISIS and then we fucking abandoned them.

Tulsi's my favorite overall, but that was a pretty cringey answer...

Almost like NATO isn't a real thing...
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The mask is coming off. These leftists are beginning to say what was once the quiet, hidden part out loud. They have to in order to appease their radical, foaming at the mouth insane base that has all but taken over the wheel of the Democrat party. Good luck with that guys.

Whether Yang gets anywhere after this or not, he was right about one thing: The others are starting to pick up his ideas.
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BeerOnTap posted...

The mask is coming off. These leftists are beginning to say what was once the quiet, hidden part out loud. They have to in order to appease their radical, foaming at the mouth insane base that has all but taken over the wheel of the Democrat party. Good luck with that guys.

Basically this.

I think it's fantastic that, in this very thread, we have someone openly proving TDS is a thing. Someone who would openly say: "I don't care who is their representative. I don't care what they believe. I don't care what they'll say they'll do, as long as it's not Trump."

The insanity is real and that debate just continued to prove it.
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I_Abibde posted...

Whether Yang gets anywhere after this or not, he was right about one thing: The others are starting to pick up his ideas.

There were so many moments where Yang spoke and the moderators just seemed stunned

Oh fuck this guy is off the talking points and saying things that actually make sense
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Finally finished watching the debate -- which, because I missed the initial broadcast, I wound up breaking up -- and, out of everybody there, Tulsi Gabbard came out looking pretty good. I was also surprised that Klobuchar had a pretty solid performance.

Elizabeth Warren got beaten and bloodied a few times. Bernie had some blunders and it was particularly glaring when he pivoted on a question (I think concerning his health) to jump back to the last discussion where he added absolutely nothing and seemed to just be running down the clock on his actual question.

Cory Booker has continued to disappoint. Every other response seemed to be a, "Let's get along, guys!", instead of actually using his time well. I think he's probably done at this point, which is fine if that's all he has. Mayor Pete had a few good moments whereas Beto, the previously media-anointed one, seemed to embarrass himself a few times and got floored by Pete on that gun control debate.

Speaking of embarrassments, Biden flubbed more than usual and had that great moment when he was talking about Putin and motioning towards Bernie. That shit made the night. However, despite his mistakes, he still demonstrated why he was the front-runner, especially when he was putting Elizabeth Warren in her place (and it was funny watching her try to offer credit to everybody *around* Biden for her success before acknowledging that Biden's remark was on the money)

A few of the candidates talked about increasing the taxes on capital gains -- using it to slight the wealthy -- while overlooking that it would impact anybody trying to save for retirement and punish most Americans for behaving responsibility.

In general, though, the fact that there are 12 candidates on the stage kinda distracts from the fact that only a handful will actually be in contention and those are the ones who matter. Granted, you don't *actually* need to hear from Bernie because all of his responses are along the lines of "Subject-verb-Wall Street" and, regardless of the discussion, he stays in the same arena because he's in trouble whenever he goes anywhere else. While Elizabeth Warren is also big on the "eat the rich" spiel, at least she has a bit more variety so less of it sounds the same. Plus she was willing to call out bad trade deals and companies taking jobs overseas instead of Andrew Yang just writing those jobs off.

To her credit, Tulsi Gabbard called out the US's tendency towards endless wars and how badly our involvement has exacerbated the Syrian civil war and prolonged a crisis. A handful of the other candidates defended it poorly, although Mayor Pete's nonsense sticks out the most.

HornedLion posted...

Heart attack?

Bernie doesnt look like he missed a beat.

Fucking love that guy.

His interns are standing behind him, propping him up. You can see one of them when they lift his arm to wave.
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Aaantlion posted...

To her credit, Tulsi Gabbard called out the US's tendency towards endless wars and how badly our involvement has exacerbated the Syrian civil war and prolonged a crisis.

What do you make of the talk about Gabbard being a Russian plant?
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People need to start dropping. Its kind of annoying how many there are.

I_Abibde posted...

Aaantlion posted...

To her credit, Tulsi Gabbard called out the US's tendency towards endless wars and how badly our involvement has exacerbated the Syrian civil war and prolonged a crisis.

What do you make of the talk about Gabbard being a Russian plant?

They sound like wild allegations so I haven't bothered looking into them. Why, is there even one credible element to the story?
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Raddest_Chad posted...

People need to start dropping. Its kind of annoying how many there are.

They will never understand the concept of quality over quantity.
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