Current Events > After anti-Semitic attack, government blames 'gamer scene' (serious) (article)

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teepan95
10/14/19 4:14:42 PM
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On Wednesday, 27-year-old Stephan B.* tried to storm a synagogue in Halle, southwest of Berlin, where the local Jewish community was marking Yom Kippur the holiest day of the year in Judaism.

Unable to access the synagogue because of its reinforced and barricaded doors, he shot at passersby, killing two people and injuring two more. Police caught him about an hour-and-a-half later, as he attempted to flee in a stolen taxi.

Interior Minister Horst Seehofer earned the ire of many young Germans on Sunday when he blamed the "gamer scene" for fostering extremism.

On social media, many of them mocked Seehofer's seemingly out-of-touch comment, reminding the interior minister that millions of people around the world play video games. One tweet showed a photoshopped image of Adolf Hitler with virtual reality goggles, saying "this young man was also radicalized in the gamer scene."


https://www.dw.com/en/berlin-10000-march-against-anti-semitism/a-50816328
Spoiler: it was a Neo-Nazi, not a gamer
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Zikten
10/14/19 4:18:34 PM
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so it's not just american politicians who blame gamers for everything
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Garioshi
10/14/19 4:21:39 PM
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Gamers truly are the most oppressed minority

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brestugo
10/14/19 4:22:40 PM
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There is a passage in the book the Name of the Rose where a character says that if you have a difficult enemy you can't defeat, find an easy one that you can defeat and blame all your problems on that one. Seems to be the thought process here - 'vidya gamez'!
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Questionmarktarius
10/14/19 4:23:50 PM
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One tweet showed a photoshopped image of Adolf Hitler with virtual reality goggles, saying "this young man was also radicalized in the gamer scene."

Source, please.
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ultimate reaver
10/14/19 4:29:51 PM
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right wing radicalization groups do target young people in video game communities though

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Questionmarktarius
10/14/19 4:32:32 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
right wing radicalization groups do target young people in video game communities though

That's some Jack Chick levels of scaremongering, though.
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teepan95
10/14/19 4:37:32 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
right wing radicalization groups do target young people in video game communities though

So which group is more at fault? Neo-Nazis? Or gamers?
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garan
10/14/19 4:38:26 PM
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Zikten posted...
so it's not just american politicians who blame gamers for everything


Yep.
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AlephZero
10/14/19 4:38:44 PM
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joker is radicalizing gamers
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ultimate reaver
10/14/19 4:39:25 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
That's some Jack Chick levels of scaremongering, though.


I feel like you are fully aware there is no comparison between the really well documented tactic of extremist groups approaching subcultures which traditionally feel disenfranchised or are seen as vulnerable in some way and a crazy guy telling you dungeons and dragons lets you summon satan if you commit sacrificial murders, but maybe I am wrong and you're honestly that misguided.

Video games do not cause violence, but unless I'm missing something from the posted article nobody is suggesting they are.

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teepan95
10/14/19 4:44:16 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
That's some Jack Chick levels of scaremongering, though.


I feel like you are fully aware there is no comparison between the really well documented tactic of extremist groups approaching subcultures which traditionally feel disenfranchised or are seen as vulnerable in some way and a crazy guy telling you dungeons and dragons lets you summon satan if you commit sacrificial murders, but maybe I am wrong and you're honestly that misguided.

Video games do not cause violence, but unless I'm missing something from the posted article nobody is suggesting they are.

In a vacuum, it doesn't sound so bad. But concurrently, the government is not renewing funds for right-wing extremist rehabilitation programs as well as botching up investigations into right-wing extremism in the armed forces

This is scapegoating, pure and simple. Add that to the fact that the politician from the article represents a strongly right-wing base...
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ultimate reaver
10/14/19 4:45:26 PM
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teepan95 posted...
So which group is more at fault? Neo-Nazis? Or gamers?


Neo Nazis, obviously, but extremism is like a cancer. When you start accepting it into your culture and don't call it out for what it is, it begins to become more well-ingrained into normalcy and people feel a lot more free to continue their recruitment efforts in those areas.

it's important to recognize the influx of this stuff that's been very clearly visible in online gaming communities for the past six years or so.

teepan95 posted... In a vacuum, it doesn't sound so bad. But concurrently, the government is not renewing funds for right-wing extremist rehabilitation programs as well as botching up investigations into right-wing extremism in the armed forces

This is scapegoating, pure and simple. Add that to the fact that the politician from the article represents a strongly right-wing base...


I admit I had no idea they were using it as an excuse not to further investigations into outright extremism. If that's true, that's incredibly stupid though I still find the initial claim really oddly phrased and a lot of the reaction to it people completely missing the point and jumping to defend video games


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Prestoff
10/14/19 4:47:21 PM
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They targeted gamers
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teepan95
10/14/19 4:49:30 PM
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@Questionmarktarius posted...
One tweet showed a photoshopped image of Adolf Hitler with virtual reality goggles, saying "this young man was also radicalized in the gamer scene."

Source, please.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ShahakShapira/status/1183316675669778432
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Questionmarktarius
10/14/19 4:51:02 PM
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teepan95 posted...
@Questionmarktarius posted...
One tweet showed a photoshopped image of Adolf Hitler with virtual reality goggles, saying "this young man was also radicalized in the gamer scene."

Source, please.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ShahakShapira/status/1183316675669778432

Thanks

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https://mobile.twitter.com/CryptoPunkrock/status/1183317079925108737
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teepan95
10/14/19 4:52:21 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
teepan95 posted...
@Questionmarktarius posted...
One tweet showed a photoshopped image of Adolf Hitler with virtual reality goggles, saying "this young man was also radicalized in the gamer scene."

Source, please.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ShahakShapira/status/1183316675669778432

Thanks

it gets better...
https://mobile.twitter.com/CryptoPunkrock/status/1183317079925108737

I feel like that's a still from Er Ist Wieder Da, but idk
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Questionmarktarius
10/14/19 4:53:04 PM
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teepan95 posted...
I feel like that's a still from Er Ist Wieder Da, but idk

It very well may be.
That movie was weird.
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teepan95
10/15/19 12:28:30 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
teepan95 posted...
I feel like that's a still from Er Ist Wieder Da, but idk

It very well may be.
That movie was weird.

I haven't seen it myself yet, hence the idk
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EverDownward
10/16/19 12:59:03 PM
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Prestoff posted...
They targeted gamers

...gamers?
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WesternMedia
10/18/19 2:11:02 AM
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CrimsonRage posted...
disgusting. we really need to clamp down on right-wing terrorism and treat it seriously.

also this topic would be five pages long by now if the culprit was Muslim. some of the usual suspects are noticeably absent here too.

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ASithLord7
10/19/19 10:52:47 AM
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I mean isnt this more about Seehofer being the usual dumbass tho
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teepan95
10/19/19 6:43:25 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
I mean isnt this more about Seehofer being the usual dumbass tho

To an extent

Coupled with the lack of renewal funds for projects tackling right-wing extremism, I'd say it's indicative of something larger
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