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Balrog0
10/14/19 12:59:46 PM
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I just got modded for saying that black businesses died because of white terrorism and that was what the mod said.

Setting aside whether that specifically is true (though see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_riot) that wording itself is very bad. There are obviously some things that are the fault of white terrorism.

I disputed the moderation, I guess it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things

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Romes187
10/14/19 1:01:53 PM
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yeah that's kinda weird...
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SpicyBeefPatty
10/14/19 1:05:46 PM
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I posted a topic that had a link to a Twitter thread about a mom who documented how her son was targeted and recruited online by white hate groups. no personal comments included.

The topic was deleted and I was suspended. The mod in question said that if I were gonna mention those groups, I should have included other ethnicities who MAY be doing the same thing. I was so amazed, I saved the screenshot
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tennisdude818
10/14/19 1:06:49 PM
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It may have gone better if you referenced an ideology rather than a race.
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darkphoenix181
10/14/19 1:07:05 PM
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SpicyBeefPatty posted...
I posted a topic that had a link to a Twitter thread about a mom who documented how her soon was targeted and recruited online by white hate groups. no personal comments included.

The topic was deleted and I was suspended. The mod in question said that if I were gonna mention those groups, I should have included other ethnicities who MAY be doing the same thing. I was so amazed, I saved the screenshot


Then post it.
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Rexdragon125
10/14/19 1:07:33 PM
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Yikes, wonder if the mods are Trumpeters
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prettyprincess
10/14/19 1:07:40 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
It may have gone better if you referenced an ideology rather than a race.

the ideology of white supremacy?
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pls
10/14/19 1:08:04 PM
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Call it just terrorism. Adding the skin color is definitely racist.

What is the difference? It is just terrorism. Would you call terrorism in the middle east to be brown terrorism? No, because that'd be fucking racist and I'm sure you cringed internally at the thought.

Stop trying to score Virtue points with the board's most radical identity politicians.
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Rexdragon125
10/14/19 1:10:09 PM
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It's not bOtH sIdEs

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/08/17/are-antifa-and-the-alt-right-equally-violent/
Over the past decade, extremists of every stripe have killed 372 Americans. 74 percent of those killings were committed by right wing extremists. Only 2 percent of those deaths were at the hands of left wing extremists. Mayo told us:
"I dont want to give moral equivalence to the two sides because one side is fighting against white supremacy. On the Antifa side, theyve never murdered anyone but there have been many murders done by white supremacists, so we have to be concerned about that movement."
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prettyprincess
10/14/19 1:11:35 PM
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pls posted...
What is the difference? It is just terrorism. Would you call terrorism in the middle east to be brown terrorism?

yeah nobody in this case would ever qualify the terrorism with a descriptor like islamic or something similar given the story, I have never seen that happen
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pls
10/14/19 1:12:27 PM
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prettyprincess posted...
pls posted...
What is the difference? It is just terrorism. Would you call terrorism in the middle east to be brown terrorism?

yeah nobody in this case would ever qualify the terrorism with a descriptor like islamic or something similar given the story, I have never seen that happen


Islamic is not a race.

It would be totally fine to call something Christian terrorism if that is in fact the flavor of ideology. But white is not an ideology, and neither is brown or black.
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tennisdude818
10/14/19 1:13:53 PM
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prettyprincess posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
It may have gone better if you referenced an ideology rather than a race.

the ideology of white supremacy?


Yeah
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prettyprincess
10/14/19 1:16:04 PM
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pls posted...
But white is not an ideology, and neither is brown or black.


oh you just want him to more specifically name the ideology by fully saying white supremacist terrorism then
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SpicyBeefPatty
10/14/19 1:17:18 PM
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pls posted...
prettyprincess posted...
pls posted...
What is the difference? It is just terrorism. Would you call terrorism in the middle east to be brown terrorism?

yeah nobody in this case would ever qualify the terrorism with a descriptor like islamic or something similar given the story, I have never seen that happen


Islamic is not a race.

It would be totally fine to call something Christian terrorism if that is in fact the flavor of ideology. But white is not an ideology, and neither is brown or black.


What ideology did Dylan Roof and the El Paso gunman share? How about the synagogue shooter in Pittsburgh?
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MC_BatCommander
10/14/19 1:17:28 PM
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Rexdragon125 posted...
Yikes, wonder if the mods are Trumpeters


They're either alt-right racists or leftist SJWs according to CE
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Annihilated
10/14/19 1:20:42 PM
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Uh no, you got modded for implying that "white terrorism" was even a thing.
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pls
10/14/19 1:21:48 PM
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Annihilated posted...
Uh no, you got modded for implying that "white terrorism" was even a thing.


Yeah and TC knows this, he's been modded for similar posts in the past. For some reason he insists on trying to accumulate those Virtue points by pandering to this board's lowest common denominator.
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MedeaLysistrata
10/14/19 1:23:25 PM
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pls posted...
Annihilated posted...
Uh no, you got modded for implying that "white terrorism" was even a thing.


Yeah and TC knows this, he's been modded for similar posts in the past. For some reason he insists on trying to accumulate those Virtue points by pandering to this board's lowest common denominator.

So you earn your virtue points by pandering to the highest power? I guess that would be more effectove
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Annihilated
10/14/19 1:23:45 PM
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pls posted...
Annihilated posted...
Uh no, you got modded for implying that "white terrorism" was even a thing.


Yeah and TC knows this, he's been modded for similar posts in the past. For some reason he insists on trying to accumulate those Virtue points by pandering to this board's lowest common denominator.


Yeah if those folks start to like you, you're doing something wrong. Meanwhile, he's complaining about this moderation while I got modded for calling AoC a traitor. Figure that one out.
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SpicyBeefPatty
10/14/19 1:24:39 PM
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Annihilated posted...
Uh no, you got modded for implying that "white terrorism" was even a thing.


what would label white people committing violence against minorites groups for political and intimidation purposes?
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Antifar
10/14/19 1:25:47 PM
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White terrorism is an absolutely fine way to describe what happened in Tulsa, or Wilmington, or any number of American cities in the post-reconstruction era especially.
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Annihilated
10/14/19 1:25:59 PM
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SpicyBeefPatty posted...
Annihilated posted...
Uh no, you got modded for implying that "white terrorism" was even a thing.


what would label white people committing violence against minorites groups for political and intimidation purposes?


Do you even realize how ridiculous that concept sounds?
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pls
10/14/19 1:26:35 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
pls posted...
Annihilated posted...
Uh no, you got modded for implying that "white terrorism" was even a thing.


Yeah and TC knows this, he's been modded for similar posts in the past. For some reason he insists on trying to accumulate those Virtue points by pandering to this board's lowest common denominator.

So you earn your virtue points by pandering to the highest power? I guess that would be more effectove


No, you don't focus on earning any Virtue points and instead choose the side with the most accurate data. SpicyBeefPatty posted...
Annihilated posted...
Uh no, you got modded for implying that "white terrorism" was even a thing.


what would label white people committing violence against minorites groups for political and intimidation purposes?


Terrorism and/or white supremacy

Would you ever label anything as brown or black terrorism? No.
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MrMallard
10/14/19 1:27:33 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
SpicyBeefPatty posted...
I posted a topic that had a link to a Twitter thread about a mom who documented how her soon was targeted and recruited online by white hate groups. no personal comments included.

The topic was deleted and I was suspended. The mod in question said that if I were gonna mention those groups, I should have included other ethnicities who MAY be doing the same thing. I was so amazed, I saved the screenshot


Then post it.

This

pls posted...
Call it just terrorism. Adding the skin color is definitely racist.

What is the difference? It is just terrorism. Would you call terrorism in the middle east to be brown terrorism? No, because that'd be fucking racist and I'm sure you cringed internally at the thought.

Stop trying to score Virtue points with the board's most radical identity politicians.

ok proudclad
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prettyprincess
10/14/19 1:29:44 PM
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pls posted...
Would you ever label anything as brown or black terrorism? No.

the BLA most certainly did get the latter label
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MedeaLysistrata
10/14/19 1:30:13 PM
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So why are virtue points a life mechanic at all
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SpicyBeefPatty
10/14/19 1:32:29 PM
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Annihilated posted...
SpicyBeefPatty posted...
Annihilated posted...
Uh no, you got modded for implying that "white terrorism" was even a thing.


what would label white people committing violence against minorites groups for political and intimidation purposes?


Do you even realize how ridiculous that concept sounds?


lol what are you talking about
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emblem boy
10/14/19 1:59:04 PM
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Lol, is this a real argument we're having in this topic? That we can't call things white terrorism?
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Balrog0
10/14/19 2:06:23 PM
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The topic title is what the mod said verbatim

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pauIie
10/14/19 2:09:07 PM
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it's like you guys don't get that it's hard to get people to call it terrorism when a white person does it
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darkphoenix181
10/14/19 2:09:12 PM
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What did you put in your dispute tc?

You should win it, but it depends on what you said.
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Balrog0
10/14/19 2:29:45 PM
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Also, I would label things as black terrorism. Not brown terrorism because brown as a descriptor isn't used the same way that white and black are for specific kinds of races/ethnicities

But the impact that black terrorism has had in america is much smaller than white terrorism, I can't think of any particular social outcome that can be attributed to it the way that it can be with white terrorism

darkphoenix181 posted...
What did you put in your dispute tc?

You should win it, but it depends on what you said.


The mod's entire message was "sarcastic or not, implying anything is the fault of white terrorism is racially offensive"

I said that I wasn't being sarcastic and that it was factual and then shared that link I posted in OP a long with a few other examples from the Red Summer where massacres of black people happened in several cities in 1919

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darkphoenix181
10/14/19 2:32:53 PM
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Hmm. I feel like that won't convince mod concesnus. Guess we will see.
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Balrog0
10/14/19 2:33:27 PM
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yeah I mean I never dispute moderations because it doesn't really matter, I'll probably tell you how it goes though

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CyricZ
10/14/19 2:48:03 PM
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I once got modded for calling ICE a modern gestapo.

This was earlier this year.

I don't get modded for doing that anymore.
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Annihilated
10/14/19 9:48:52 PM
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SpicyBeefPatty posted...
lol what are you talking about


It sounds like a paranoid racism fever dream. No one in real life has anything to gain politically by Using violence or intimidation against black people. That doesn't even make sense.

Balrog0 posted...
I disputed the moderation


What the hell for? I've had moderations upheld for far, far less than what you said. You're only wasting your time.
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Balrog0
10/14/19 9:50:01 PM
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Annihilated posted...
It sounds like a paranoid racism fever dream. No one in real life has anything to gain politically by Using violence or intimidation against black people. That doesn't even make sense.


The reason I disputed it is because this is objectively untrue

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coh
10/14/19 9:57:00 PM
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It is pretty racist tbh
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Annihilated
10/14/19 9:58:04 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
Annihilated posted...
It sounds like a paranoid racism fever dream. No one in real life has anything to gain politically by Using violence or intimidation against black people. That doesn't even make sense.


The reason I disputed it is because this is objectively untrue


Even if it was, you're still equating race with an ideology. That is not acceptable in any context. Doesn't matter if you would also say there was "black terrorism" because that's not a thing either.
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FursonaNonGrata
10/14/19 9:59:25 PM
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Hairistotle posted...

it's moddable to do this fyi


Mods sure are putting on overtime huh
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The Admiral
10/14/19 10:02:06 PM
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What the fuck is white terrorism? Sounds like the kind of garbage some sociology professor would spout.
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SpicyBeefPatty
10/14/19 10:02:34 PM
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The Admiral posted...
What the fuck is white terrorism? Sounds like the kind of garbage some sociology professor would spout.


Do you not know who Dylan Roof is?
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Balrog0
10/14/19 10:03:21 PM
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pls posted...
Yeah and TC knows this, he's been modded for similar posts in the past. For some reason he insists on trying to accumulate those Virtue points by pandering to this board's lowest common denominator.


I don't think that the racial angle helps me with anyone on ce btw

I just talk this way because it's what I think is true

Remember when I shared my life story and you said you respected me, but then I said I benefited from white privilege and you took it back? That's the same kinda thing

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Balrog0
10/14/19 10:04:18 PM
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The Admiral posted...
What the fuck is white terrorism? Sounds like the kind of garbage some sociology professor would spout.


Did you look at the Wikipedia link I posted?

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The Admiral
10/14/19 10:04:59 PM
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SpicyBeefPatty posted...
The Admiral posted...
What the fuck is white terrorism? Sounds like the kind of garbage some sociology professor would spout.


Do you not know who Dylan Roof is?


Yeah...?
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Balrog0
10/14/19 10:05:03 PM
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Annihilated posted...
Even if it was, you're still equating race with an ideology. That is not acceptable in any context. Doesn't matter if you would also say there was "black terrorism" because that's not a thing either.


It definitely is, both are imho

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Darmik
10/14/19 10:05:59 PM
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White Supremacist Terrorism is a lot to fit into a topic title.
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