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AFrench2
10/13/19 11:33:15 PM
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Should America allow illegal immigrants the chance at US citizenship after a 4+ year tour in the military?
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Damn_Underscore
10/13/19 11:35:54 PM
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This would piss off extreme left and right wingers so sure.
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pls
10/13/19 11:37:25 PM
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Hmmmm that is an interesting idea.
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hockeybub89
10/13/19 11:37:29 PM
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We should never tie citizenship to military service.
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Doom_Art
10/13/19 11:40:34 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
We should never tie citizenship to military service.
Perhaps not exclusively military service but definitely some sort of public service

I've often said I'd be in favor of a mandatory two years of "service" following HS, where service can be anything from the military, to public works, humanitarian services, or shit like that.

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LordFarquad1312
10/13/19 11:41:07 PM
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"Thank you for putting your life on the line for our country, now gtfo and never come back unless you're spending $5000 and for no longer than 2 weeks"
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emblem boy
10/13/19 11:45:16 PM
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I thought we already did that
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AFrench2
10/13/19 11:46:43 PM
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emblem boy posted...
I thought we already did that

Nope
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emblem boy
10/13/19 11:51:27 PM
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https://www.uscis.gov/military/naturalization-through-military-service

I'm guessing this is for legal immigrants then
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masticatingman
10/13/19 11:51:34 PM
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I believe thats what the French Foreign Legion at least used to do. And thats a recentish example.

emblem boy posted...
I thought we already did that


Ive seen stories of vets being deported. For obvious reasons, those stories make interesting media pieces.
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IShall_Run_Amok
10/13/19 11:57:48 PM
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I thought we did, and then, later, we didn't, but it turns out we never did,
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Amenadeel
10/13/19 11:58:33 PM
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Not military, I think community service would be better like say picking up trash on the beach, cleaning the lakes and rivers, instituting recycling service.

Or just straight up giving a bunch of money for your citizenship? Like say 10,000 dollars for it or something? I dunno something that would do utilitarian good for the country and its environment.
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emblem boy
10/14/19 12:10:16 AM
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Amenadeel posted...
Not military, I think community service would be better like say picking up trash on the beach, cleaning the lakes and rivers, instituting recycling service.

Or just straight up giving a bunch of money for your citizenship? Like say 10,000 dollars for it or something? I dunno something that would do utilitarian good for the country and its environment.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigrant_investor_programs
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Hexenherz
10/14/19 12:20:56 AM
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emblem boy posted...
https://www.uscis.gov/military/naturalization-through-military-service

I'm guessing this is for legal immigrants then

It was but pretty sure they stopped honoring it.
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rookieplayer03
10/14/19 12:29:51 AM
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I got 18/20 right for the practice us citizenship test

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AFrench2
10/14/19 12:36:24 PM
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welp
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Annihilated
10/14/19 12:38:53 PM
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For national security reasons, that would be a bad idea.
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AFrench2
10/14/19 1:14:17 PM
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Annihilated posted...
For national security reasons, that would be a bad idea.

Why's that?
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AlephZero
10/14/19 1:15:19 PM
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Service guarantees citizenship. Would you like to know more?
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DarkRoast
10/14/19 1:17:11 PM
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https://www.uscis.gov/military/naturalization-through-military-service

If you are serving or have served in the U.S. armed forces and are interested in becoming a U.S. citizen, you may be eligible to apply for naturalization under special provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).


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Annihilated
10/14/19 1:18:27 PM
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AFrench2 posted...
Annihilated posted...
For national security reasons, that would be a bad idea.

Why's that?


For the same reason illegals shouldn't be allowed to serve in the first place. Outside groups can send infiltrators to compromise the military or to use their citizenship to establish a base of operations.
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emblem boy
10/14/19 1:48:00 PM
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Annihilated posted...
AFrench2 posted...
Annihilated posted...
For national security reasons, that would be a bad idea.

Why's that?


For the same reason illegals shouldn't be allowed to serve in the first place. Outside groups can send infiltrators to compromise the military or to use their citizenship to establish a base of operations.


I mean, non citizens can already serve in the military
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Annihilated
10/14/19 1:59:58 PM
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emblem boy posted...
Annihilated posted...
AFrench2 posted...
Annihilated posted...
For national security reasons, that would be a bad idea.

Why's that?


For the same reason illegals shouldn't be allowed to serve in the first place. Outside groups can send infiltrators to compromise the military or to use their citizenship to establish a base of operations.


I mean, non citizens can already serve in the military


Legal ones can. TC suggested illegal immigrants should be granted citizenship by infiltrating the U.S. military.
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spudger
10/14/19 2:00:30 PM
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Annihilated posted...
AFrench2 posted...
Annihilated posted...
For national security reasons, that would be a bad idea.

Why's that?


For the same reason illegals shouldn't be allowed to serve in the first place. Outside groups can send infiltrators to compromise the military or to use their citizenship to establish a base of operations.

thats an outmoded idea. that already happens with the cartels and white nationalist groups with actual citizens.
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Annihilated
10/14/19 2:02:45 PM
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spudger posted...
Annihilated posted...
AFrench2 posted...
Annihilated posted...
For national security reasons, that would be a bad idea.

Why's that?


For the same reason illegals shouldn't be allowed to serve in the first place. Outside groups can send infiltrators to compromise the military or to use their citizenship to establish a base of operations.

thats an outmoded idea. that already happens with the cartels and white nationalist groups with actual citizens.


Then you can already see why it's a bad thing.
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