Poll of the Day > So will Gfaqs start banning people for speaking out against China?

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Raze_Razel
10/09/19 2:18:54 AM
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I mean if you look at the entire industry as a whole, a great portion of revenue does come from overseas.

So would we expect gFaqs to fall in line with this new world order and start acting in their interests?
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DeltaBladeX
10/09/19 3:08:25 AM
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Not sure. I know CBS are 80% owned by a private US company, but not sure about the other 20%. Chinese companies like Tencent have invested in a lot of popular foreign companies which I imagine is at least part of the reason some will bend over backwards for the Chinese.
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J_Dawg983
10/09/19 3:12:51 AM
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I'm sure even if they did have some power over the company that owns gamefaqs, any comments on here will be quiet enough no backlash would come from it.

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spooky96
10/09/19 3:17:30 AM
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Relax.
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Krazy_Kirby
10/09/19 3:24:19 AM
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china breaks too easily, normal plates are better
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Lokarin
10/09/19 3:40:26 AM
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I have enough money to just buy GameFAQs if I wanted to... I change the monetization system so that FAQ makers can receive tips, with the site getting a small percentage.
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The_tall_midget
10/09/19 4:04:54 AM
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I am sure the mods will eventually try to add it to their "moral" code that they "abide" to. Possibly link it to racism or other idiotic assortment of virtue signaling that their very biased moderators love to cling to.
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Destiny
10/09/19 4:07:28 AM
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i'm from china and i never get modded
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Korruptor
10/09/19 5:47:05 AM
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so far... nah.

but I got my posts archived just in case. :)
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RedPixel
10/09/19 7:41:16 AM
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Hmm. Let's see what happens.

Organ harvesting.

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SunWuKung420
10/09/19 8:40:44 AM
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#chinasucks
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Wanded
10/10/19 1:23:13 PM
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Nah, this site never had access to china money to begin with
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wwinterj25
10/10/19 1:25:07 PM
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Yes. Now get in line maggot!
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Raze_Razel
10/13/19 4:32:50 PM
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FYI,... just been accused of trolling, speaking about China on the FFXIV board; asking the same simple question.

relax Mr. moderator?.....you just proved my point.

gFaqs bends the knee to China too, watch yourselves.
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HornedLion
10/13/19 5:47:12 PM
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Nah, TC.

But just dont protest against something Israel did.
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Mead
10/13/19 5:51:44 PM
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The Israel government is bad!
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Raze_Razel
10/14/19 10:28:33 PM
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Raze_Razel posted...
FYI,... just been accused of trolling, speaking about China on the FFXIV board; asking the same simple question.

relax Mr. moderator?.....you just proved my point.

gFaqs bends the knee to China too, watch yourselves.


Last update,.....I disputed the moderation....basically telling them they are 'bending the knee to China too"....no response, just 'upheld'; not even PR spun BS explanation...
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Ferarri619
10/14/19 10:31:33 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Websites_blocked_in_mainland_China

Unfortunately Gamefaqs isn't on that specific list, but, given some of the sites there like Twitch are banned I'm sure Gamefaqs is as well, so we shouldn't worry about that.
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streamofthesky
10/14/19 10:33:38 PM
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Epic flying kick: https://imgur.com/gallery/oIUUGRm

lulz China

*awaits moderation from the supposedly pro-China mods*
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Ferarri619
10/14/19 10:36:40 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
Epic flying kick: https://imgur.com/gallery/oIUUGRm

lulz China

*awaits moderation from the supposedly pro-China mods*


Holy shit. That flying kick tho
American protesters would never be able to pull that off, Lmao
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streamofthesky
10/14/19 10:40:06 PM
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Ferarri619 posted...
streamofthesky posted...
Epic flying kick: https://imgur.com/gallery/oIUUGRm

lulz China

*awaits moderation from the supposedly pro-China mods*


Holy shit. That flying kick tho
American protesters would never be able to pull that off, Lmao

Because they're too fat, or because the police would just gun them down from 30 ft away, or both?

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Sarcasthma
10/15/19 3:07:03 AM
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Raze_Razel posted...
relax Mr. moderator?.....you just proved my point.

How does that prove anything?
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Raddest_Chad
10/15/19 5:43:55 AM
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It's lame, but it has less control over things than companies trying to "look woke" does.
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Bulbasaur
10/15/19 6:16:25 AM
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Raze_Razel posted...
Raze_Razel posted...
FYI,... just been accused of trolling, speaking about China on the FFXIV board; asking the same simple question.

relax Mr. moderator?.....you just proved my point.

gFaqs bends the knee to China too, watch yourselves.


Last update,.....I disputed the moderation....basically telling them they are 'bending the knee to China too"....no response, just 'upheld'; not even PR spun BS explanation...

yes

talking about China on a game board unrelated to China is going to get you moderated for being off-topic

there's no "bending the knee", it's you fucking breaking the rules that have been in place for 20 years
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Krazy_Kirby
10/15/19 8:04:35 AM
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Bulbasaur posted...
Raze_Razel posted...
Raze_Razel posted...
FYI,... just been accused of trolling, speaking about China on the FFXIV board; asking the same simple question.

relax Mr. moderator?.....you just proved my point.

gFaqs bends the knee to China too, watch yourselves.


Last update,.....I disputed the moderation....basically telling them they are 'bending the knee to China too"....no response, just 'upheld'; not even PR spun BS explanation...

yes

talking about China on a game board unrelated to China is going to get you moderated for being off-topic

there's no "bending the knee", it's you fucking breaking the rules that have been in place for 20 years


unless it's the ps4 board. mods don't give a fuck as long as it has the community tag
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Alpha218
10/15/19 9:00:14 AM
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Raze_Razel posted...
Last update,.....I disputed the moderation....basically telling them they are 'bending the knee to China too"....no response, just 'upheld'; not even PR spun BS explanation...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/6-/77748152

Under the new dispute system, we no longer have the ability to respond because it is done under a vote during a 24-hour period, as opposed to a single person writing out a response and there being multiple dispute levels.

Also idk why were instantly being accused of having a love affair with China. Personally I am with the Hong Kong protestors all the way, even though I unfortunately dont see an end result where China lets them have what they want. They were doomed from the start when the UK handed them over to China.

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OniRonin
10/15/19 9:02:24 AM
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no, . this is an english forum, nobody in china gives a shit.
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OniRonin
10/15/19 9:04:35 AM
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Ferarri619 posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Websites_blocked_in_mainland_China

Unfortunately Gamefaqs isn't on that specific list, but, given some of the sites there like Twitch are banned I'm sure Gamefaqs is as well, so we shouldn't worry about that.

it isn't blocked. fringe english-only sites rarely are
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Fierce_Deity_08
10/15/19 10:53:04 AM
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Im neutral in all of this. I just want to sit on my butt and play video games while watching old TV shows, like any girl.
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SunWuKung420
10/15/19 10:58:15 AM
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Fuck trump
Fuck China
Fuck putin
Fuck north Korea
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Raze_Razel
10/15/19 2:47:09 PM
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Alpha218 posted...
Also idk why were instantly being accused of having a love affair with China


Because I want a rational explanation, and "you don't have to" because you cower behind your TOU.

So let's start from the beginning....

HOT TOPIC OF THE ENTIRE WEEK...."Major UNITED STATES videogame publisher shuts down free speech, showing support for China's policies; partly due because of large profit margins at potential risk."

Now here I go, posting on the FFXIV board saying pretty much the same thing here:

Does shit-talking about China get you banned from this game too?
Since thats Blizzards policy, but since SQEX is of Eastern shores has there been any mass bannings in FFXIV for speaking against China?

Will talking about China in open chat in (ie) Limsa Lominsa get you banned?

Asking for (political) science reasons....


Seems like a legitimate question, no malice or "trolling" intent behind it.

I mean this whole debacle with Activision, is asking all sorts of questions toward the industry as a whole, and anyone involved like third party videogame forums like gFAQs. What does that say for the gamers here? Or online in their respective game right now? These are questions I want to know. I'm Canadian, I love Final Fantasy XIV, and I love freedom too. So I like to know what people's opinion are on the matter if I continue to further invest my time in that game, before I say the wrong thing and get my account cancelled losing all my progress and the money I put into it.

Now IIRC, that topic I made went on for two whole pages, with some insightful comments that prove it was a serious topic, and it was take seriously enough to keep the discussion going,

...and you shut it down, and called it "trolling".....

HOW!?....or right, you don't have to explain yourself.

I mean, I'd would've expected the moderator to at least say, "You were reported many times for trolling, so the system automatically deleted your post."....at least I'd know that the readers here are the real trolls who abuse the report function, and it's just the pro-China faction pulling their Black-hat SEO shite. And you'd be blameless, except for the part as to why you didn't reinstate my post and thread after the fact, and you never explained anything at all......so that leaves the one inevitable solution....

....you're pro-China.....or worse, you're China's whore as well, where you 'love freedom', but love their money more; probably worried about the trickle effect, imo.


So here we are, having a mini-version of Activision's drama over the same thing. And the evidence is against you now.

>deletes rational topic about China, relating real world issue to the game itself.
>no explanation, except explaining the rules on why they don't have to give an explanation
>"relax"
>"I am with the Hong Kong protestors all the way"

....so prove it....put the thread back on the FFXIV board.
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Raze_Razel
10/15/19 3:01:33 PM
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Bulbasaur posted...
there's no "bending the knee", it's you fucking breaking the rules that have been in place for 20 years


the TOU amounts to nothing but what mood the moderators are in, depending on how often they get their rag changed....

and if that mood relies on their political views as well.

The topic as I explained above was about FFXIV, and the relation of a real world issue, which isn't breaking the rules at all. Since it's a issue that does impact how one can play that game. A question that can be applied to any game.

Will Cyberpunk 2077 bend the knee to China? Should I invest into that game if I get punished for saying the wrong thing?

Will Outer Worlds bend the knee?

Will Steam?

Will Epic Games?

GOG?

Reddit?

/v/?

gFAQs?

"They" just don't like the topic at all. You can act and talk as innocently normal as you can, next thing you know your digital identity is getting summarily shot in the head behind the chemical shed, and dumped in a pit....and you'll never know why?.
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Bulbasaur
10/15/19 3:07:59 PM
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yeah if that's what you posted then your moderation was fair

next.
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Raze_Razel
10/15/19 3:09:48 PM
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Bulbasaur posted...
yeah if that's what you posted then your moderation was fair

next.


the moderation was not fair, try again....

lol, no explanation given....so either you too are trolling, or of the pro-China camp....

'next'
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Bulbasaur
10/15/19 3:10:48 PM
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Raze_Razel posted...
so either you too are trolling,


thanks for admitting you were trolling, makes it easier for everyone else.
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Raze_Razel
10/15/19 3:12:39 PM
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Bulbasaur posted...
Raze_Razel posted...
so either you too are trolling,


thanks for admitting you were trolling, makes it easier for everyone else.


"You too"...puts you in the category of the black-hatters that I mentioned in the large post above.

You obviously didn't read that, ....so yeah, YOU TOO are a troll. And are reported as such.
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Bulbasaur
10/15/19 3:38:57 PM
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Raze_Razel
10/15/19 4:03:54 PM
#38:


Baiting this hard with a special gif made just for me....

reported for trolling and harassment.
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HelIWithoutSin
10/15/19 4:22:09 PM
#39:


Raze_Razel posted...
Baiting this hard with a special gif made just for me....

reported for trolling and harassment.


Why are you reporting everything and trying to silence free speech and take away freedom?
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Raze_Razel
10/15/19 5:08:24 PM
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HelIWithoutSin posted...
Raze_Razel posted...
Baiting this hard with a special gif made just for me....

reported for trolling and harassment.


Why are you reporting everything and trying to silence free speech and take away freedom?


funny you think there is a double standard here. So I'll guess I'll explain it to you then....tldr: He had no speech to suppress.

For starters, if I were you, I'd ask this same question to him, if he wasn't in warned status now.....

I mean, all he's done since I presented this topic was insult me without any real discussion to the topic at hand. He said "it was a fair moderation", I'm saying "it's not (and explained as such)....then he started making gifs attacking me directly, instead of hammering out a discussion where I could be wrong on any level, from the actual China topic, to gFAQs shoddy moderation practices. He didn't. ...and he lost, by hanging himself with his own rope, meant for me.

So by an large, Bulbasaur is a troll, who couldn't keep up with the conversation, and decided to use his baser instincts to swamp the discussion with his trolling antics. Trolls like that drown out the core issue with any given topic, and the point gets lost.

If I didn't report him, and took his bait, and cuss him out....then I would've been the one in 'warned status....that's how the game is played here. I would've ran circles around this guy, and actually hurt his feeling through the computer screen, and gFAQs mod would've dealt with me, silencing me and my speech about China's influence on the gaming community, and basic freedoms in broader strokes.....and from 'experience', it's not outside the realm of possibility, that this troll is a 'cooler' of sorts. Better to use a troll to discredit the legit hot topic claim, than to use a moderator to deal with it, and expose themselves as censors.

He wanted to suppress my speech, because ..."I'm right"...and he was too inept to compete. He had 'no speech' to suppress to begin with. So there is no double-standard here.

If he had a claim, even one I didn't like, and abused the report function.....yes, that's suppressing his speech. But that's not what happened.
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SunWuKung420
10/15/19 5:19:22 PM
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HelIWithoutSin
10/15/19 6:28:14 PM
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So not only are you suppressing free speech, you're trying to force others to replace theirs with your own. Sounds awfully a lot like a totalitarian government that's been in the news a lot recently.
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Cacciato
10/15/19 6:33:47 PM
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Sounds like TC needs to learn when to shut the fuck up.
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Sarcasthma
10/15/19 6:37:00 PM
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Cacciato posted...
Sounds like TC needs to learn when to shut the fuck up.

But GameFAQs obviously loves China! Look at how they banned TC for speaking out against the PRC!
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Krazy_Kirby
10/15/19 6:37:11 PM
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you do realise that both bulbasaur and hellwithoutsin are helly, right?
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HelIWithoutSin
10/15/19 6:43:09 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
you do realise that both bulbasaur and hellwithoutsin are helly, right?


If he realized that, he'd be wrong again. So, maybe?
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Raze_Razel
10/15/19 6:51:35 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
you do realise that both bulbasaur and hellwithoutsin are helly, right?


I do now.

I made my point clear as day, and it still flew over his head. Sound like the same trolling tactic that Bulbasaur used before he got his temp-ban.

But in case it's not, and he's just some copycat, I'll explain it one more time to him:

hellwithoutsin posted...
So not only are you suppressing free speech, you're trying to force others to replace theirs with your own. Sounds awfully a lot like a totalitarian government that's been in the news a lot recently.


He had no speech to suppress in the first place, so he's no victim.

I had speech, he/you tried to suppress it, and he/you failed miserably.

Walking into a room and being a [troll] is not an exercise of free speech, you're just being a [troll]; and you should be rightly moderated as such.

..this is not a hard concept to understand...
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HelIWithoutSin
10/15/19 7:26:18 PM
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Raze_Razel posted...
He had no speech to suppress in the first place, so he's no victim.


Of course he didn't. Nobody does. Gamefaqs is under the boot of the CCP and you're complicit in enabling them to silence the voice of the people.
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Raze_Razel
10/15/19 7:45:47 PM
#49:


Hellwithoutsin posted...
Nobody does.


Everybody does. He just didn't use it in the moment he should have.
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TheWitchMorgana
10/15/19 7:47:59 PM
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hey isn't it weird that that topic about china got deleted but this one didn't (and even had mods posting in it)?

but no i guess the mods are paid off, by china
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