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DevsBro
10/14/19 11:24:25 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
I think it's horse shit that infected can survive the winter

It's horse shit that zombies (and their totally-not-zombies relatives, including TLoU infected) can survive winter, summer, lakes, cliffs, highways and general fauna (and hell, flora), not to even mention manage to spread in the first place.

But I mean

Otherwise the story doesn't work so
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DevsBro
10/14/19 11:26:18 AM
#103:


Doom_Art posted...
Wow this restaurant stealth fight with David is super fucking annoying

Yeah, its mechanics felt outdated at release tbh.

But once you get used to it, it's not that bad" and the atmosphere is nice.
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Doom_Art
10/14/19 8:53:10 PM
#104:


So I just woke up in the hospital and like I get that Joel doesn't want Ellie to die but I don't know that I disagree with the Fireflies here

"The needs of the many" and all that

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Banjo2553
10/14/19 9:02:57 PM
#105:


Doom_Art posted...
So I just woke up in the hospital and like I get that Joel doesn't want Ellie to die but I don't know that I disagree with the Fireflies here

"The needs of the many" and all that

Yeah, this is where some people may disagree with Joel. I kinda like it tbh, not all protags need to always make the "right" choices.
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pegusus123456
10/14/19 9:03:31 PM
#106:


I have....opinions about how the game ends.

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Killmonger
10/14/19 9:04:49 PM
#107:


Since I fucked up as far as saves go, it looks like I'll be playing on grounded. Wish me luck.
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GameGodOfAll
10/14/19 9:04:57 PM
#108:


Banjo2553 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
So I just woke up in the hospital and like I get that Joel doesn't want Ellie to die but I don't know that I disagree with the Fireflies here

"The needs of the many" and all that

Yeah, this is where some people may disagree with Joel. I kinda like it tbh, not all protags need to always make the "right" choices.

I love it. It's perfect. I totally disagree with Joel's reaction, but Joel ain't me. I'm playing as Joel and Joel is not a good guy who cares about the needs of the many.
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Doom_Art
10/14/19 9:06:50 PM
#109:


So I just killed the surgeon and nurses

This is... uhhh... yeah.

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Banjo2553
10/14/19 9:08:17 PM
#110:


GameGodOfAll posted...
I love it. It's perfect. I totally disagree with Joel's reaction, but Joel ain't me. I'm playing as Joel and Joel is not a good guy who cares about the needs of the many.

I just hope the sequel doesn't fuck it up and make the Fireflies purely bad guys who didn't know what they were doing. I don't want Joel's decision at the end of the first game to be validated.
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DevsBro
10/14/19 9:10:21 PM
#111:


Banjo2553 posted...
GameGodOfAll posted...
I love it. It's perfect. I totally disagree with Joel's reaction, but Joel ain't me. I'm playing as Joel and Joel is not a good guy who cares about the needs of the many.

I just hope the sequel doesn't fuck it up and make the Fireflies purely bad guys who didn't know what they were doing. I don't want Joel's decision at the end of the first game to be validated.

This. The ending--shoot, the whole story--doesn't make sense if Joel made the right choice.
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pls
10/14/19 9:11:42 PM
#112:


@Doom_Art Don't read this spoiler until you beat the game.

Didn't the Fireflies try and fail with a bunch of other people who were immune? Meaning that Ellie might've very well have died for nothing if they tried it on her?
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Doom_Art
10/14/19 9:12:41 PM
#113:


So I just left the hospital and drove away with Ellie

How close am I to the end?

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Banjo2553
10/14/19 9:15:03 PM
#115:


Doom_Art posted...
So I just left the hospital and drove away with Ellie

How close am I to the end?

You're basically right there.
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sylverlolol
10/14/19 9:17:00 PM
#116:


GameGodOfAll posted...
People really need to learn how to set their expectations appropriately and not let hype effect their enjoyment.

The Last of Us is the greatest game from that entire generation, but if you go into it thinking "Wow I'm going to play the greatest game from that entire generation", you're just setting yourself up for disappointment. Just go into anything highly praised with at most thinking "this will probably be good, but I'm sure people overrated it."

Hit the nail on the head here.
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Doom_Art
10/14/19 9:17:08 PM
#117:


Well that fucking blows

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pls
10/14/19 9:17:28 PM
#118:


lol
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pls
10/14/19 9:17:52 PM
#119:


So what would you rate it now that you've beaten it?
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sylverlolol
10/14/19 9:19:03 PM
#120:


pls posted...
@Doom_Art Don't read this spoiler until you beat the game.

Didn't the Fireflies try and fail with a bunch of other people who were immune? Meaning that Ellie might've very well have died for nothing if they tried it on her?

Yes.
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Doom_Art
10/14/19 9:19:16 PM
#121:


I paused at Ellie saying "Swear to me that everything you said about the Fireflies was true" to type that message.

Literally the second before the game ended lol

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Doom_Art
10/14/19 9:20:45 PM
#122:


pls posted...
So what would you rate it now that you've beaten it?
8.5/10

It's no Witcher 3 but definitely one of the best gaming experiences I've had in a while

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DevsBro
10/14/19 9:20:55 PM
#123:


pls posted...
@Doom_Art Don't read this spoiler until you beat the game.

Didn't the Fireflies try and fail with a bunch of other people who were immune? Meaning that Ellie might've very well have died for nothing if they tried it on her?

No.

They performed research, but never with anyone who was immune. The recorder in question does mention Ellie's immunity immediately before mentioning past cases, but this is in the context of explaining why Ellie is different. The transcript reads:

April 28th. Marlene was right. The girl's infection is like nothing I've ever seen. The cause of her immunity is uncertain. As we've seen in all past cases, the antigenic titers of the patient's Cordyceps remain high in both the serum and the cerebrospinal fluid. Blood cultures taken from the patient rapidly grow Cordyceps in fungal-media in the lab... however white blood cell lines, including percentages and absolute-counts, are completely normal. There is no elevation of pro-inflammatory cytokines, and an MRI of the brain shows no evidence of fungal-growth in the limbic regions, which would normally accompany the prodrome of aggression in infected patients.

We must find a way to replicate this state under laboratory conditions. We're about to hit a milestone in human history equal to the discovery of penicillin. After years of wandering in circles, we're about to come home, make a difference, and bring the human race back into control of its own destiny. All of our sacrifices and the hundreds of men and women who've bled for this cause, or worse, will not be in vain.

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Doom_Art
10/14/19 9:24:04 PM
#125:


Eh Imma bump it up to a 9/10

I really really liked it

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pls
10/14/19 9:25:59 PM
#126:


Doom_Art posted...
Eh Imma bump it up to a 9/10

I really really liked it


god bless
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Doom_Art
10/14/19 9:28:42 PM
#127:


I'm just mad because I got so invested in it but then it just kinda stopped.

And I'm also mad because now I'm gonna be dropping another $70 in a few months to get the sequel

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pegusus123456
10/14/19 9:33:47 PM
#128:


Be sure and play the DLC, it's a nice little bit of extra content. It does one thing in the combat that I kept hoping you'd be able to do in the main game.

And Joel's an asshole IMO.
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Doom_Art
10/14/19 9:43:57 PM
#129:


pegusus123456 posted...
Be sure and play the DLC, it's a nice little bit of extra content. It does one thing in the combat that I kept hoping you'd be able to do in the main game.
What's the thing?

pegusus123456 posted...
And Joel's an asshole IMO.


Yeah if it were a case of like the Fireflies wanted to use Ellie and any cure she may produce for political purposes like the rebels from CoM then I could see Joel's reaction

Also the bit of dialogue he has near the end where he mentions Sarah and kinda compares Ellie to her rubbed me the wrong way.


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pegusus123456
10/14/19 10:14:44 PM
#130:


Doom_Art posted...
What's the thing?

Clicker and human enemies in the same area. I can tell why they didn't do it, that is not exactly balanced lol.

Doom_Art posted...
Yeah if it were a case of like the Fireflies wanted to use Ellie and any cure she may produce for political purposes like the rebels from CoM then I could see Joel's reaction

Also the bit of dialogue he has near the end where he mentions Sarah and kinda compares Ellie to her rubbed me the wrong way.


People talk about whether the Fireflies would be able to create and distribute a cure. Whether they'd use it for political gain. And none of that matters because Joel didn't even think about that. He saved Ellie for selfish reasons without thinking about what Ellie would want.

I was honestly on his side until he shot Marlene. I changed my mind when Marlene pointed out, "It's what she'd want. And you know it." And then the final conversation between him and Ellie just cemented my opinion.


On a lighter note, there was an alternate ending which you should probably look at.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8XN7eoZr0Y" data-time="

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pegusus123456
10/14/19 10:21:38 PM
#131:


Oh, man, I started watching some of the mocap footage. Unless I'm mistaken, that's not Ashley Johnson playing Ellie's unconscious body. Looking at the mocap footage of Sophie's death, I think that's Sophie's mocap actress playing Ellie in that scene.
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DevsBro
10/14/19 10:58:46 PM
#132:


Doom_Art posted...
Yeah if it were a case of like the Fireflies wanted to use Ellie and any cure she may produce for political purposes like the rebels from CoM then I could see Joel's reaction

It's entirely possible they would, but to Joel, that's irrelevant. He never had any stake in saving the world in the first place. He was just in it for Ellie.
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DevsBro
10/14/19 11:05:53 PM
#133:


pegusus123456 posted...
I was honestly on his side until he shot Marlene. I changed my mind when Marlene pointed out, "It's what she'd want. And you know it." And then the final conversation between him and Ellie just cemented my opinion.

Which was a good point, though it's also worth noting that Marlene had no intention of giving Ellie the choice either. Plus, as her adopted father (of sorts?), he really kind of does have the right to make these decisions for her. But on the other hand, she's 15 years old and perfectly capable of making decisions anyway. I love how there are so many angles to approach the issue from, and that's really the point--what is right and wrong in a world ruled by survival? And it's clear that in the end, the one thing you can be sure of is--as Tess said it best--"We're shitty people, Joel. It's been that way a long time."
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pegusus123456
10/14/19 11:07:02 PM
#134:


DevsBro posted...
Plus, as her adopted father (of sorts?), he really kind of does have the right to make these decisions for her.

I dunno if you missed this, but Marlene actually is Ellie's adopted mother.
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DevsBro
10/14/19 11:10:43 PM
#135:


pegusus123456 posted...
DevsBro posted...
Plus, as her adopted father (of sorts?), he really kind of does have the right to make these decisions for her.

I dunno if you missed this, but Marlene actually is Ellie's adopted mother.

I know. Just makes the whole thing more ironic.
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MKScorpion
10/14/19 11:29:04 PM
#136:


We probably won't ever think it lives up to its hype because we haven't played it until now. I remember before this gen even launched how crazy people were over the game and have continued to be since then.

There is nothing wrong with celebrating a great game but like with any art whether it be movie, book, album etc. when the hype level and praise gets to a certain point it creates expectations that are impossible to meet a lot of the time.
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pegusus123456
10/16/19 8:22:46 AM
#139:


Outer_space posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
I just hope the sequel doesn't fuck it up and make the Fireflies purely bad guys who didn't know what they were doing. I don't want Joel's decision at the end of the first game to be validated.
The first game already makes them seem incompetent. They would cause uprisings in quarantine zones like Pittsburgh and then abandon the people when shit goes south.

The Fireflies didn't abandon Pittsburgh. The people of Pittsburgh drove them out.
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