Poll of the Day > Trump leaving Kurdish allies to be obliterated by Turkey

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St_Kevin
10/07/19 8:36:13 AM
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Wanded
10/07/19 8:39:58 AM
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So we should start a war with Turkey?
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Kyuubi4269
10/07/19 8:42:35 AM
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Wanded posted...
So we should start a war with Turkey?

We should have a Crusade on Turkey.
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miki_sauvester
10/07/19 8:47:49 AM
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How is Turkey still allowed to be in NATO.
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Ferarri619
10/07/19 8:59:57 AM
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Turkey with gravy and mashed potatoes
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KnoxKorner
10/07/19 9:00:45 AM
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miki_sauvester posted...
How is Turkey still allowed to be in NATO.


How is Germany still allowed in NATO?
http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/nato-spending-by-country/
2% of GDP is suppose to go to NATO.

https://carnegieeurope.eu/strategiceurope/75653
Germanys armed forces are in such bad shape that they cannot even meet their NATO commitments.

during a NATO exercise, because they lacked machine guns, tank commanders instead used broomsticks.


https://www.dw.com/en/only-4-of-germanys-128-eurofighter-jets-combat-ready-report/a-43611873
Only 4 of Germany's 128 Eurofighter jets combat ready report

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Kyuubi4269
10/07/19 9:05:41 AM
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KnoxKorner posted...
miki_sauvester posted...
How is Turkey still allowed to be in NATO.


How is Germany still allowed in NATO?
http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/nato-spending-by-country/
2% of GDP is suppose to go to NATO.

https://carnegieeurope.eu/strategiceurope/75653
Germanys armed forces are in such bad shape that they cannot even meet their NATO commitments.

during a NATO exercise, because they lacked machine guns, tank commanders instead used broomsticks.


https://www.dw.com/en/only-4-of-germanys-128-eurofighter-jets-combat-ready-report/a-43611873
Only 4 of Germany's 128 Eurofighter jets combat ready report

I think a peace organisation can tolerate under-armed members better than ones that invade and take control of northern Cyprus.
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miki_sauvester
10/07/19 9:06:01 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Wanded posted...
So we should start a war with Turkey?

We should have a Crusade on Turkey.

Kick Turkey out of NATO and provide military aid to help the Kurds defeat Turky instead.
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KnoxKorner
10/07/19 9:39:34 AM
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miki_sauvester posted...
Kick Turkey out of NATO and provide military aid to help the Kurds defeat Turky instead.


Giving aid to literal communist, and groups listed as a terrorist organization by the US, EU, Japan, and UK. Then again the 'moderate rebels' we backed in Syria were more or less 'moderate beheaders' who often conflicted with other groups we backed.

https://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-cia-pentagon-isis-20160327-story.html

Then again the whole Syrian War was arguably over a pipeline.
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CaptainStrong
10/07/19 9:42:42 AM
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good. now lets get our red white and blue dick out of the beehive that is the rest of the middle east
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miki_sauvester
10/07/19 10:14:15 AM
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KnoxKorner posted...
Then again the whole Syrian War was arguably over a pipeline.

Yeah, I agree with Tulsi Gabbard that we should withdraw from Syria and focus more on Turkey.
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BUMPED2002
10/07/19 10:39:21 AM
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No surprise here. If we look at the history, America is quick to fight countries with Brown people.

How many European countries has the US in her history invaded?
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Krazy_Kirby
10/07/19 10:39:44 AM
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unless it's a world war type situation, i don't think we need to get involved with every countries fighting
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Wanded
10/07/19 11:23:20 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
unless it's a world war type situation, i don't think we need to get involved with every countries fighting

The logic is we get involved to prevent world wars from happening to begin with, but it doesn't matter, Trump won't do anything cuz he's anti intervention
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Kyuubi4269
10/07/19 11:47:04 AM
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BUMPED2002 posted...
No surprise here. If we look at the history, America is quick to fight countries with Brown people.

How many European countries has the US in her history invaded?

England like a hundred times.

Also they don't attack brown people, they attack countries with no good weapons they'll use on the US.
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Krazy_Kirby
10/07/19 12:41:24 PM
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Wanded posted...
So we should start a war with Turkey?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx4z_RHsZwM" data-time="&start=83

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BigDD67
10/07/19 12:59:50 PM
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CaptainStrong posted...
good. now lets get our red white and blue dick out of the beehive that is the rest of the middle east

This. They have been at war with each other since the dawn of time and the USA is certainly not going to change that.
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Peterass
10/07/19 1:06:24 PM
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BigDD67 posted...
CaptainStrong posted...
good. now lets get our red white and blue dick out of the beehive that is the rest of the middle east

This. They have been at war with each other since the dawn of time and the USA is certainly not going to change that.


Agreed..They're gonna kill each other regardless. Let's at least minimize the times we get caught in the crossfire
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Peterass
10/07/19 1:12:39 PM
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BUMPED2002 posted...
No surprise here. If we look at the history, America is quick to fight countries with Brown people.

How many European countries has the US in her history invaded?


Maybe because those European countries aren't preaching death to America and are both economic and geopolitical allies. Maybe it's because they are civilized countries that don't decapitate their enemies in public. Perhaps it has nothing to do with race, but instead with national safety, and American interests. Sometimes I feel like people don't know what the price the of freedom we have really is.

But also, have you forgotten WW1 & WW2?
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afrodude77
10/07/19 2:07:24 PM
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All cause a YPG commander hurt his ego

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_AdjI_
10/07/19 2:10:29 PM
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Peterass posted...
Maybe it's because they are civilized countries that don't decapitate their enemies in public.


He says, from a country that still practices capital punishment.
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BigDD67
10/07/19 9:35:15 PM
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_AdjI_ posted...
Peterass posted...
Maybe it's because they are civilized countries that don't decapitate their enemies in public.


He says, from a country that still practices capital punishment.

Yeah that's similar to beheading journalists and mutilating women and small time criminals. Wake the fuck up kid
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Krazy_Kirby
10/07/19 9:39:50 PM
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_AdjI_ posted...
Peterass posted...
Maybe it's because they are civilized countries that don't decapitate their enemies in public.


He says, from a country that still practices capital punishment.


if you murder someone you don't deserve to live anymore
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The_tall_midget
10/07/19 9:46:15 PM
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Wanded posted...
So we should start a war with Turkey?


Yes, so that the dumb lefties can then complain that Trump is a warmonger.
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CaptainStrong
10/07/19 10:43:27 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
Peterass posted...
Maybe it's because they are civilized countries that don't decapitate their enemies in public.


He says, from a country that still practices capital punishment.


if you murder someone you don't deserve to live anymore

yeah dude, killing is so wrong that we must kill the killers. totally not hypocritical at all.
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Krazy_Kirby
10/07/19 10:48:05 PM
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CaptainStrong posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
Peterass posted...
Maybe it's because they are civilized countries that don't decapitate their enemies in public.


He says, from a country that still practices capital punishment.


if you murder someone you don't deserve to live anymore

yeah dude, killing is so wrong that we must kill the killers. totally not hypocritical at all.


you are right, it isn't
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streamofthesky
10/07/19 11:00:01 PM
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At this point, stabbing the Kurds in the back should replace baseball as America's pastime.
I seriously don't know why they would ever fucking trust us ever again. They'd have to be idiots to do so, honestly. This is what? Three times now?
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CaptainStrong
10/07/19 11:39:07 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
CaptainStrong posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
Peterass posted...
Maybe it's because they are civilized countries that don't decapitate their enemies in public.


He says, from a country that still practices capital punishment.


if you murder someone you don't deserve to live anymore

yeah dude, killing is so wrong that we must kill the killers. totally not hypocritical at all.


you are right, it isn't

how isnt it? if you hate killing so much, why would you kill a killer? that makes you a hypocrite. if they are in prison, they arent a danger anymore, so killing them is completely unjustified. killing is only okay when it is absolutely necessary to save other people's lives. if they are behind bars, theyre not gonna kill anyone
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Krazy_Kirby
10/08/19 12:07:43 AM
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execution isn't murder, and a murderer doesn't deserve to live their life. their punishment for killing someone is death
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CaptainStrong
10/08/19 12:27:50 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
execution isn't murder, and a murderer doesn't deserve to live their life. their punishment for killing someone is death

Literally the only reason it's not considered murder is because it's government sanctioned. It's still unnecessary killing, therefore it's immoral. If they've already been captured and they're not a threat anymore, there is no reason to kill them other than being a sick fuck who gets off on revenge killing. Civilized countries don't do this shit. Instead, they try to rehabilitate them.
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Sarcasthma
10/08/19 1:45:47 AM
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Seeing people quoting Kirby makes me glad he blocked me. :p

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Kyuubi4269
10/08/19 1:52:38 AM
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CaptainStrong posted...
Literally the only reason it's not considered murder is because it's government sanctioned.

Yup, and it's government sanctioned because it's something we accept.

CaptainStrong posted...
It's still unnecessary killing

Nope. It's absolutely necessary to remove threats from society.

CaptainStrong posted...
If they've already been captured and they're not a threat anymore, there is no reason to kill them

They'll get out one day, and that's not okay.

CaptainStrong posted...
Civilized countries don't do this shit. Instead, they try to rehabilitate them.

Note how they typically just die in prison, so they have a death sentence by waiting. It's almost as if they're killed by proxy to avoid committing to the act directly.
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OhhhJa
10/08/19 2:03:31 AM
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You really cant claim the moral high ground when supporting indefinite imprisonment over execution. You're caging someone like an animal. Its arguably more humane to execute them
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Krazy_Kirby
10/08/19 2:45:40 AM
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rehabilitate a murderer?
it doesn't matter if a murderer never kills again, they still don't deserve to live.
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BlackScythe0
10/08/19 2:53:38 AM
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Not the first time we've betrayed the Kurds but this is probably the worst betrayal we've ever done of them. They've only ever been a faithful ally to us and we are letting them get decimated by a man who wants to be a dictator.
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Kimbos_Egg
10/08/19 3:41:27 AM
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You know quite a lot of turkish people are light skinned...
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CaptainStrong
10/08/19 4:45:16 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
rehabilitate a murderer?
it doesn't matter if a murderer never kills again, they still don't deserve to live.

Why?
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Peterass
10/08/19 8:58:28 AM
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_AdjI_ posted...
Peterass posted...
Maybe it's because they are civilized countries that don't decapitate their enemies in public.


He says, from a country that still practices capital punishment.


In your infinite wisdom, you fail to see the difference. Have a nice day, and let us deal with the tides of people who want to come into the country which you think is horrible yet, everyone and their mother is willing to risk their life to get into.
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Peterass
10/08/19 9:05:45 AM
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CaptainStrong posted...
how isnt it? if you hate killing so much, why would you kill a killer? that makes you a hypocrite. if they are in prison, they arent a danger anymore, so killing them is completely unjustified. killing is only okay when it is absolutely necessary to save other people's lives. if they are behind bars, theyre not gonna kill anyone


They could kill other prisoners, attack corrections officers, get released from prison and kill again..yes, that happens too. Even if they don't kill, there are countless ways that they can continue to ruin peoples lives. An eye for an eye.
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Krazy_Kirby
10/08/19 9:35:57 AM
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CaptainStrong posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
rehabilitate a murderer?
it doesn't matter if a murderer never kills again, they still don't deserve to live.

Why?


because they murdered someone
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CaptainStrong
10/08/19 9:52:59 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
CaptainStrong posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
rehabilitate a murderer?
it doesn't matter if a murderer never kills again, they still don't deserve to live.

Why?


because they murdered someone

What do you think about the fact that 4% of people sentenced to death are innocent? Are you okay with innocent people being executed?
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BlackScythe0
10/10/19 1:04:56 AM
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So I'm seeing claims that Turkey is attacking cities that still has US troops in it. Turkey is raining down shells on US troops because Trump didn't pull them all the way out.

If any US soldier dies, I want Trump to get the death penalty for treason and war.
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papercup
10/10/19 1:10:55 AM
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/09/politics/turkey-syria-us-anger-ramifications/index.html

Imagine shilling for this moron and being delusional enough to think you aren't shilling.
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BlackScythe0
10/10/19 1:14:28 AM
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I can't find any articles on it but I've seen claims that Kurds are fleeing to US positions trying to get protection in our bases and for their part US troops who have been partnered with these people for years want to protect them and are attempting to position themselves to dissuade the shelling from Turkish troops.

This is insane. This is happening because Trump wanted a hotel in Istanbul.

We are being shelled by a NATO ally because Trump wanted a fucking hotel.
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streamofthesky
10/10/19 1:24:17 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
I can't find any articles on it but I've seen claims that Kurds are fleeing to US positions trying to get protection in our bases and for their part US troops who have been partnered with these people for years want to protect them and are attempting to position themselves to dissuade the shelling from Turkish troops.

This is insane. This is happening because Trump wanted a hotel in Istanbul.

We are being shelled by a NATO ally because Trump wanted a fucking hotel.

And because Trump adores authoritarians like Erdogan.

Remember when Erdogan's bodyguards viciously assaulted Americans on US soil, and Trump did nothing about it?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/us-assault-charges-dropped-erdogan-guards_n_5ab424b7e4b054d118e12977
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Lokarin
10/10/19 1:34:42 AM
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Turkey is responsible for the creation of more pride parades due to surviving genocide than any other nation
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Wanded
10/11/19 12:52:28 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
I can't find any articles on it but I've seen claims that Kurds are fleeing to US positions trying to get protection in our bases and for their part US troops who have been partnered with these people for years want to protect them and are attempting to position themselves to dissuade the shelling from Turkish troops.

This is insane. This is happening because Trump wanted a hotel in Istanbul.

We are being shelled by a NATO ally because Trump wanted a fucking hotel.

So if trump starts a war with Turkey, you'll say yay trump?
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streamofthesky
10/13/19 8:52:17 PM
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Good summation of the history of Kurds being screwed over by the US: https://imgur.com/gallery/csEO5G0

Though I note every single time, it was one specific party that was in the White House...
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Mead
10/13/19 8:59:37 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
Good summation of the history of Kurds being screwed over by the US: https://imgur.com/gallery/csEO5G0

Though I note every single time, it was one specific party that was in the White House...


Not at all surprising
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