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Tmaster148
10/04/19 6:54:30 PM
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https://theintercept.com/2019/10/04/dakota-access-pipeline-sabotage/

TWO WOMEN WHO vandalized the Dakota Access pipeline in an effort to halt construction have been indicted on charges that carry up to 110 years in prison and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines. They are among the harshest penalties environmental activists have faced in the last decade.

Civil liberties lawyers say the charges are in line with industry-inspired scare tactics meant to deter citizens from participating in direct-action protests or acts of sabotage against oil and gas companies. As the deadly impacts of carbon emissions grow ever clearer, the fossil fuel industry has increased pressure on lawmakers and government officials to penalize those who would inhibit their projects operations.

At the same time, a growing number of activists have demonstrated willingness to break laws in order to highlight the urgency of the climate emergency and other ecological crises. Ruby Montoya and Jessica Reznicek, who stand accused of damaging pipeline valve sites using a welding torch, tires ignited by fire, and gasoline-soaked rags, are part of that trend.

The arrests come more than two years after Montoya, 29, and Reznicek, 38, publicly took responsibility for a series of acts of sabotage that they said was necessary to protect the rivers and waterways under which the Dakota Access pipeline passes. Both women had been involved in the Indigenous-led struggle to stop the pipeline, which attracted thousands of people to opposition camps in North Dakota and Iowa in 2016 and 2017.

We are speaking publicly to empower others to act boldly, with purity of heart, to dismantle the infrastructures which deny us our rights to water, land, and liberty, Montoya and Reznicek stated at a press conference in July 2017.

They told The Intercept at the time that they planned to use a necessity defense to argue that they had no choice but to act. Civil liberties attorneys said they are not aware of such a defense being accepted in a federal case related to climate change or environmental issues. It has, however, begun to gain traction in lower courts, where a handful of pipeline protesters have successfully argued that they acted out of necessity.

Lauren Regan, executive director of the Civil Liberties Defense Center, who is representing Montoya, said its too early to say whether the activists will follow through with their plan to mount a necessity defense. It was a couple years ago when those conversations were happening, and now theyre facing 10-year mandatory minimums, she said. The charges include one count of conspiracy to damage an energy facility, four counts of use of fire in the commission of a felony, and four counts of malicious use of fire.

I wish the government would use the same resources to go after the oil companies and pipeline companies, but clearly theyre not interested in that, said Bill Quigley, an attorney who previously represented Montoya and Reznicek. They shouldnt be prosecuted; they should be praised. Theyre trying to stop the destruction of the human race.


Vandalizing property belonging to corporations grants you a worse sentence then being a cop who broke into someone's house while not on duty and killed them.
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AnimeFan462
10/04/19 6:55:17 PM
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What if their actions caused a fire to break out??

They definitely deserve lots of time for their recklessness.
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Zeeak4444
10/04/19 6:56:46 PM
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Im with you tc, I dont support them buts its funny we use scare tactics for things like this and not for actual murder.
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Machete
10/04/19 6:59:24 PM
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fair, next because... if global warming was real, why are daily temperatures currently trending downward in the northern hemisphere and will likely not start regularly increasing again until probably some time in March-April of 2020?
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Solar_Crimson
10/04/19 7:01:33 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
Im with you tc, I dont support them buts its funny we use scare tactics for things like this and not for actual murder.

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10/04/19 7:02:43 PM
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DeadBankerDream
10/04/19 7:05:16 PM
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How about we remove a 1 from that number and then divide by 2?
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spudger
10/04/19 7:07:10 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
carry up to 110 years in prison

which means jack shit.

just like that pig that murdered the black man. she should be rotting for 30+ but only got 10.
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Paper_Okami
10/04/19 7:08:51 PM
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meanwhile violence done by Corporations is dealt with a slap on the wrist

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Inferno Dive Dragoon
10/06/19 5:52:49 PM
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Further proof that the USA is a third-world shit hole.
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DifferentialEquation
10/06/19 6:08:08 PM
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https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2019/10/01/dakota-access-pipeline-

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Reznicek and Montoya, who had been involved in the Des Moines Catholic Workers' social justice movement, held a news conference in July 2017 where they described their "direct action" campaign to stop the pipeline while it was under construction.

The two women said their sabotage included burning at least five pieces of heavy construction equipment in northwest Iowa's Buena Vista County.

They also used oxyacetylene cutting torches to damage exposed, empty pipeline valves up and down the pipeline route across Iowa and South Dakota.

They later used tires and gasoline-soaked rags to burn multiple valve sites and electric units, as well as heavy equipment on pipeline easements.

The damage to heavy equipment in Buena Vista County alone was estimated at exceeding $2.5 million, while damage at a series of work sites elsewhere in Iowa after November 2016 was described as either undetermined or for lesser amounts.


This goes way beyond simply vandalizing property. In this case, the punishment fits the crime.
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CADE FOSTER
10/08/19 6:35:32 PM
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110 years for this Amber Guyger murdered a man in his own home 10 years just us system indeed
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AngelsNAirwav3s
10/08/19 6:37:30 PM
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This is the maximum sentence, no way they actually get it.

Also, fucking around with a high pressure pipeline could easily lead to a spill, explosion, and death. As someone who works in the industry, you are welcome to go out and stand there and protest, whatever, but don't go fucking around with equipment. I don't want to go out to a meter house, get blown up, and never see my family again because of some delusional psychopath. Probably not worth 110 years, but this is serious.
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Ranlom
10/10/19 6:32:16 AM
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Land of the free
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spudger
10/11/19 9:46:37 PM
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scumbag republicans and donald trump allow this
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CircleOfManias
10/11/19 9:47:58 PM
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Destroying the pipeline is a net positive environmentally, so they really didn't do anything wrong. It shouldn't have to come to this, but it has. Legal methods were tried and failed.
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TaiIs82
10/11/19 9:51:17 PM
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Wasn't a pipeline explosion literally the plot of a supervillain in a Bond film? I mean it's not minor. It could cause a HUGE amount of damage.
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pikachupwnage
10/11/19 9:55:18 PM
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I feel like using a blowtorch and shit on an oil pipeline is a darwin award waiting to happen.

Isn't that shit pretty flammable? Not to mention the risk of causing a major ecological disaster if you cause a major leak or something.

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CircleOfManias
10/11/19 9:56:24 PM
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Blowing up a finished pipeline that's currently in use would be incredibly damaging, but that's not what they did. They attempted to stop the construction of one that's currently being built. Sure, there's no legal argument that they shouldn't be prosecuted, but there's a moral argument that what they did was right even if they broke the law.
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mattnd2007
10/13/19 7:23:07 PM
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Doing actual damage to the pipeline is a bit of an escalation. But should be like 5 years in jail at most. 110 is absurd. I know they won't get it, but it is still way too high.

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MarqueeSeries
10/13/19 7:27:39 PM
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CircleOfManias posted...
It shouldn't have to come to this, but it has. Legal methods were tried and failed.

This. If you can't win the battle legally, what do they think people are gonna do? Just roll over and let companies do whatever they want to the environment?

Some people don't listen to reason, only action
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Hop103
10/13/19 7:33:12 PM
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It should be around 20 not 110 years, 110 is if workers, passerbys, or cops died, for 110 years I expect mass injuries or at least 1 death.
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Rebel_Patriot
10/13/19 7:42:44 PM
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I dont understand what people have against the pipelines. They cant take up more space than a plain ass road going somewhere. Plus its reducing the amount of 18 wheelers that would be hauling that stuff. 18 wheelers can crash, cost lives, and fuck up the environment.
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Bio1590
10/13/19 7:53:18 PM
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People are against pipelines because they're against oil.
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Rebel_Patriot
10/13/19 8:36:36 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
People are against pipelines because they're against oil.

Well thats complete fucking ignorance on how dependent practically every aspect of life relies on oil not to mention the tens of millions of jobs aka livelihoods of families
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Bio1590
10/13/19 8:44:55 PM
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And the argument is that continuing to build pipelines just furthers that dependence even though it's plainly clear we need to be moving away from it.
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TaiIs82
10/13/19 9:18:51 PM
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The internal combustion engine has been one of the greatest developments in human history alongside vaccines. I don't believe in denying either one of them.

These pipelines are popular for one very simple reason: they are all pro and no con, from a jobs perspective, from an economic perspective making things more efficient and cheaper for everyone, even from an environmental perspective. Modern pipelines are replacing the aging infrastructure and are less dirty, have way fewer accidents than rail and so on. But there are some people who are against change just because it's different.

So we see a few people who have lost in the democratic process, have lost on the facts, have lost trying to undemocratically hold up progress on these projects through the courts, resorting to violence, vandalism and illegal activities. How many of those activists do you think are opposed to bombing abortion clinics? Just curious.
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Fuparulez
10/13/19 9:19:55 PM
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Attacking and damaging energy infrastructure meets a lot of the definitions of terrorism, so I'm definitely not a proponent of it.
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Delirious_Beard
10/13/19 9:28:20 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
And the argument is that continuing to build pipelines just furthers that dependence even though it's plainly clear we need to be moving away from it.


they don't care

party of short-term gains
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Antifar
10/13/19 9:31:37 PM
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TaiIs82 posted...
So we see a few people who have lost in the democratic process, have lost on the facts, have lost trying to undemocratically hold up progress on these projects through the courts, resorting to violence, vandalism and illegal activities. How many of those activists do you think are opposed to bombing abortion clinics? Just curious.

Opposition to abortion is not a position commonly found on the environmentalist left.
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Bio1590
10/13/19 9:44:05 PM
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Fuparulez posted...
Attacking and damaging energy infrastructure meets a lot of the definitions of terrorism, so I'm definitely not a proponent of it.

For the record, this was before the pipeline was completed.

Also DAP has already experienced 10 spills and has been in operation for less than 2.5 years.
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AngelsNAirwav3s
10/13/19 11:27:19 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Fuparulez posted...
Attacking and damaging energy infrastructure meets a lot of the definitions of terrorism, so I'm definitely not a proponent of it.

For the record, this was before the pipeline was completed.

Also DAP has already experienced 10 spills and has been in operation for less than 2.5 years.


Just because a pipeline isn't officially in operation doesn't mean there isn't a risk for danger to the workers when some crazy bitches take a welding torch and punch holes in your work area. This could have easily lead to injury and death.
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Bio1590
10/13/19 11:48:28 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
This could have easily lead to injury and death.

For themselves? A non-operational, non-completed pipeline is literally nothing but a hollow metal tube in the ground.
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kingdrake2
10/13/19 11:57:10 PM
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Hop103 posted...
It should be around 20 not 110 years, 110 is if workers, passerbys, or cops died, for 110 years I expect mass injuries or at least 1 death.


20 years and restitution.
they'll pay for it somehow.
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Giblet_Enjoyer
10/14/19 12:26:00 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Fuparulez posted...
Attacking and damaging energy infrastructure meets a lot of the definitions of terrorism, so I'm definitely not a proponent of it.

For the record, this was before the pipeline was completed.

Also DAP has already experienced 10 spills and has been in operation for less than 2.5 years.

@TaiIs82 ? 10 spills in a 2.5yr period is a pro in your opinion?
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DarkChozoGhost
10/14/19 12:35:59 AM
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They did something illegal, but not immoral. Actually, there actions were specifically ethical.
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kingdrake2
10/14/19 3:23:28 AM
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10 spills is a problem... they should've rectified the problem on the first one and never let it happen again.
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shadowfan
10/14/19 3:59:47 AM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
there actions were specifically ethical

This is a bruh moment.

Somehow, destroying somebody else's property with malicious intent is "ethical"
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DarkChozoGhost
10/14/19 9:18:47 AM
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shadowfan posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
there actions were specifically ethical

This is a bruh moment.

Somehow, destroying somebody else's property with malicious intent is "ethical"

Destroying the property of an evil entity that is being built on land taken through unethical means, and has an unethical function is an ethical action, yes.
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IShall_Run_Amok
10/14/19 10:17:10 AM
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Ex-Kefiroth posted...
I hope more people start sabotaging these type of projects.

This.

They're the heroes, not the government.
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OctilIery
10/14/19 10:22:24 AM
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AnimeFan462 posted...
What if their actions caused a fire to break out??

They definitely deserve lots of time for their recklessness.

This. Agree with the motive but the actions are stupidly dangerous.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
10/16/19 1:12:40 AM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
Im with you tc, I dont support them buts its funny we use scare tactics for things like this and not for actual murder.

Random plebs getting murdered doesn't affect Shell's bottom line though. Do you think we arrest people for fucking justice here? Lmao
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Questionmarktarius
10/16/19 1:53:03 AM
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