Current Events > Do you support firing people over their ignorant comments on social medias?

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To me it depends on the case. Let's say it promotes violence against a group of people like "kill all _______". I'd say yes. But I think people who make ignorant comments can be educated. I've met people who used to be homophobic and changed. Also when I see people doing that I am concerned about collateral damage(if that ignorant has kids, their dads/moms losing their jobs may prevent them from getting fed)

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epik_fail1 posted...

Also when I see people doing that I am concerned about collateral damage(if that ignorant has kids, their dads/moms losing their jobs may prevent them from getting fed)

This is an argument against people getting fired, not specifically one about people making dumb comments online.
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Antifar posted...

This is an argument against people getting fired, not specifically one about people making dumb comments online.

I honestly don't get the point you are trying to make.

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My stance is don't say it at all online if you don't want repercussions. They should think about the possibility of getting fired and if they're fired for saying something stupid online then they should blame themselves not anyone else.
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epik_fail1 posted...

Antifar posted...

This is an argument against people getting fired, not specifically one about people making dumb comments online.

I honestly don't get the point you are trying to make.

Do you share your concern about "collateral damage" for people fired over any other reason? I think you should, of course.
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Zero tolerance!
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I don't see why people feel the need to go on a crusade against people for their own personal beliefs. Before you would just say "You're an ignorant prick, don't talk to me" or you'd try to educate them. Maybe after enough negative social interactions they decide to change their ways.. or they don't. Whatever, you don't have to associate with them.

This way of thinking seems pretty in line with the American prison system, tbh. Not geared toward education or rehabilitation at all, just ruining their life indefinitely and making them as miserable as possible. "They broke the law so fuck 'em, let 'em rot in there for life or kill 'em."
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If it doesn't affect the job it doesn't bother me
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No, unless it's a threat of violence and intimidation which is against the law.
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We need a database of ignorant/racist/bigoted/fascist people who get outed. They should never be allowed to find work and thus fund their hate again. We live in a world where PoC and LGBTQIA+ folk have to fear for their lives every time they step outside. They shouldn't have to wonder if that creepy dude stocking shelves in Walmart has a "different opinion" about their human rights.

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Mr_Karate_II posted...

My stance is don't say it at all online if you don't want repercussions

Early on, like mid 90's, I was taught "If you wouldn't stand on a desk and say it to a roomful of people, don't say it online" Sound advice that a lot of people never learned. Seems like the logic now is to say "it's just a joke", which doesn't fool anybody with a modicum of intelligence.
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Ultima Dragon posted...

I don't see why people feel the need to go on a crusade against people for their own personal beliefs. Before you would just say "You're an ignorant prick, don't talk to me" or you'd try to educate them. Maybe after enough negative social interactions they decide to change their ways.. or they don't. Whatever, you don't have to associate with them.

This way of thinking seems pretty in line with the American prison system, tbh. Not geared toward education or rehabilitation at all, just ruining their life indefinitely and making them as miserable as possible. "They broke the law so fuck 'em, let 'em rot in there for life or kill 'em."

I'm all for rehabilitation, but I question the feasibility. Bigoted ignorance is strong, and tends to go hand in hand with a blanket distrust of authority, if internet racists are anything to go by.

So why put up with em at all, when you could just not? Unlike the prison system, it's not expensive and not producing even worse criminals. It's just preventing people from having to deal with a racist, and having the brand or company associated with racism online.
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I don't know. On one hand I think cancel culture is bullshit, on the other I think people who are dumb enough to post this shit under their real name and real picture probably deserve it.

Like, there's shitposting and just trying to get a reaction out of someone. But when you start putting it under your real name? There might be some truth to the shit you're talking. Does that mean your whole life should be destroyed? Probably not, but it's still pretty fucking stupid so I can't feel too sorry for these people.
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friendbuddypal posted...

We need a database of ignorant/racist/bigoted/fascist people who get outed. They should never be allowed to find work and thus fund their hate again. We live in a world where PoC and LGBTQIA+ folk have to fear for their lives every time they step outside. They shouldn't have to wonder if that creepy dude stocking shelves in Walmart has a "different opinion" about their human rights.

That's taking it too far, which is weird cause I remember your username being more connected to conservative viewpoints. Maybe this is meant to be parody?

Either way, I'm all for good societal standards being a force on company policy.
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KillerSlaw posted...

cancel culture is bulls***

Watch Contrapoints and read The Root. Cancel culture doesn't exist, it's literally the free market at work.

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hell no
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shockthemonkey posted...

Yeah thats hypnos parody account

This conspiracy theory just keep evolving. Getting sick of this tone policing from people who are allegedly on my side.

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friendbuddypal posted...

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This conspiracy theory just keep evolving. Getting sick of this tone policing from people who are allegedly on my side.

Maybe you should stop thinking your gimmick is clever then?
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Pretty sad the only way you can stay out of trouble is by being completely facetious.
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Does the word Gimmick have any synonyms?
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Hop103 posted...

No, unless it's a threat of violence and intimidation which is against the law.

I agree with this. Social media is a cancer.

The Great Muta 22 posted...

Maybe you should stop thinking your gimmick is clever then?

There is no gimmick. What is it with "centrists" and this gimmick meme?

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he doesnt think he's being clever he's just tryna be annoying
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friendbuddypal posted...

KillerSlaw posted...

cancel culture is bulls***

Watch Contrapoints and read The Root. Cancel culture doesn't exist, it's literally the free market at work.

Isn't that where Bird Box = Racist came from?
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friendbuddypal posted...

Watch Contrapoints and read The Root.

Nah, I don't need some shitty youtube channel to tell me something doesn't exist when I've seen it, thanks.
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You still represent the company, so yes.
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the safest way around this is to just not have social media lololol
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It depends. I don't think you should be fired for your religous or political views, but if you say stuff like "America is for whites" or "gay people are an abomination", it's fair play.
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I will never understand why people make racist or ignorant comments under their real full name, or a username that can be easily traced back to their real name. I will say though that you can't always exactly tell if a person's views have improved over the years.
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Not if it's from their dumb teenage years or something stupid like that

but if it's done during their tenure at their place of employment, then sure
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A company has every right to not want their brand associated with ignorance and hate.
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Yes
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LordRazziel posted...

It depends. I don't think you should be fired for your religous or political views, but if you say stuff like "America is for whites" or "gay people are an abomination", it's fair play.

I did manage to educate homophobes and they eventually changed though. I personally feel like it is a good thing that I helped them become better people.


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FL81 posted...

Not if it's from their dumb teenage years or something stupid like that

but if it's done during their tenure at their place of employment, then sure

Seems reasonable enough

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Hell no

I'm against capitalism, so the question is rather irrelevant to me. I do think its a good thing when misfortune befalls a racist because of their racism, though, and it should be encouraged for more misfortunes to happen to them.
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not at all. I don't think outrage culture and death threats and the like are not healthy for society
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...

I'm against capitalism, so the question is rather irrelevant to me. I do think its a good thing when misfortune befalls a racist because of their racism, though, and it should be encouraged for more misfortunes to happen to them.

What if the person was bigoted as a kid but matured and did not show any bigotry for the next decade?
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If it's their current job, OK. But I've heard of people following them to the next job where they apply, and telling the would-be new boss to not hire this guy. Does that actually happen?
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shockthemonkey posted...

Guide posted...

friendbuddypal posted...

We need a database of ignorant/racist/bigoted/fascist people who get outed. They should never be allowed to find work and thus fund their hate again. We live in a world where PoC and LGBTQIA+ folk have to fear for their lives every time they step outside. They shouldn't have to wonder if that creepy dude stocking shelves in Walmart has a "different opinion" about their human rights.

That's taking it too far, which is weird cause I remember your username being more connected to conservative viewpoints. Maybe this is meant to be parody?

Either way, I'm all for good societal standards being a force on company policy.

Yeah thats hypnos parody account

Makes sense.

Anyway, I have no problem with societal standards being able to influence company policy. Be a decent person and you wont have any problems.
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sylverlolol posted...

Makes sense.

Anyway, I have no problem with societal standards being able to influence company policy. Be a decent person and you wont have any problems.

Yes... but I feel like we should eventually allow forgiveness, I don't think someone should never ever be able to make money again. I am not condoning what they are doing, but I refuse to lump people as either just "good" or "bad".

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epik_fail1 posted...

sylverlolol posted...

Makes sense.

Anyway, I have no problem with societal standards being able to influence company policy. Be a decent person and you wont have any problems.

Yes... but I feel like we should eventually allow forgiveness, I don't think someone should never ever be able to make money again. I am not condoning what they are doing, but I refuse to lump people as either just "good" or "bad".

I agree
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Companies should 100% have the right to fire somebody over distasteful/hateful comments. Im iffy on public doxxing tho, so I'd rather the jobs find out not through the "witch hunt" but rather private messages.

Fuck that "we need to educate them!", education is free on the internet and some have gone too far down the rabbit hole to convert on the spot

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Blue_Dream87 posted...

Companies should 100% have the right to fire somebody over distasteful/hateful comments. Im iffy on public doxxing tho, so I'd rather the jobs find out not through the "witch hunt" but rather private messages.

Fuck that "we need to educate them!", education is free on the internet and some have gone too far down the rabbit hole to convert on the spot

I mean I am not talking about extreme cases like if someone joined a white suppremacist gang or something.

But I have seen a girl I know contact a company because someone used "gay" as an insult jokingly to one of his friend. The worst part is that she is guilty of doing so herself which make her very hypocritical.

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