BB21 Discussion - Rob and Sandra are conspiring bitches

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BlueCrystalTear 09/20/19 4:03:39 PM #51:	Pearl Islands is great, but the thing that makes it not my #1 is just how unfair the Outcast Twist was. However, that's a bit different in that it was a pre-planned twist not designed to benefit a single person. The stellar cast did the rest. --- BlueCrystalTear \| GNT BB4 Winner, Winner Chicken Dinner 3DS 4356-4163-4781 \| (((FREE HUGS))) \| You're living your own life. You're you. <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:927712634] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Pearl Islands is great, but the thing that makes it not my #1 is just how unfair the Outcast Twist was. However, that's a bit different in that it was a pre-planned twist not designed to benefit a single person. The stellar cast did the rest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 09/20/19 4:06:57 PM #52:	Also, keep in mind that, despite me ranking BB13 3rd of 11 seasons, I still dont LOVE it. I dont LOVE BB17 either. Big Brother, as a format, is too chaotic, and its too long, and the live nature means that you might not get a proper conclusion to the storyline (see: BB15, BB17, BB20). Even the best Big Brother season probably ranks between DvG and EI for me. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever https://imgur.com/SSw6M9E <cite>Espeon posted [p:927712767] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Also, keep in mind that, despite me ranking BB13 3rd of 11 seasons, I still dont LOVE it. I dont LOVE BB17 either. Big Brother, as a format, is too chaotic, and its too long, and the live nature means that you might not get a proper conclusion to the storyline (see: BB15, BB17, BB20). Even the best Big Brother season probably ranks between DvG and EI for me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 09/20/19 4:07:15 PM #53:	Espeon posted... Rachel may have won BB13, but she was in no way the producers pet uh, so let me get your alternative facts straight here... by stating what you're disregarding: Her hubby Brendon returned from a baloney "America's Vote" The F6 Pandora's Box was obviously designed to help Rachel The Veto comp after that Pandora's Box was pure endurance - something Veto NEVER is - that too blatantly resembled "No one comes between me and my banana!" Shelli voting for Rachel to win is suspicious She was definitely the producers' pet. They wanted both her and Jeff Schroeder to do well. --- BlueCrystalTear \| GNT BB4 Winner, Winner Chicken Dinner 3DS 4356-4163-4781 \| (((FREE HUGS))) \| You're living your own life. You're you. <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:927712778] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote>Rachel may have won BB13, but she was in no way the producers pet</quote> uh, so let me get your alternative facts straight here... by stating what you're disregarding: Her hubby Brendon returned from a baloney "America's Vote" The F6 Pandora's Box was obviously designed to help Rachel The Veto comp after that Pandora's Box was pure endurance - something Veto NEVER is - that too blatantly resembled "No one comes between me and my banana!" Shelli voting for Rachel to win is suspicious She was definitely the producers' pet. They wanted both her and Jeff Schroeder to do well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 09/20/19 4:10:19 PM #54:	Espeon posted... Also, something thats probably not coming across properly: Im NOT a fan of producer rigging on Big Brother (Or Survivor, but were talking about Big Brother in regards to BB13). But the rigging in BB11 or BB13 doesnt bother me like, say, BB19, because ultimately the rigging didnt damage the overall season. Rachel may have won BB13, but she was in no way the producers pet, and all their more prominent pets got taken out by one of the most unlikely collections of newbies imaginable. Yeah, that's what I'm saying about Ben in the hypothetical where the FMC doesn't exist. Personally I feel it's better when Ben idols his way to 4 and then loses to Hnstlers than Ben going out at 7 and seeing Lauren, Ashley and Dr. Mike get slowly picked off to get to the same result. --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:927712910] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote><cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote>Also, something thats probably not coming across properly: Im NOT a fan of producer rigging on Big Brother (Or Survivor, but were talking about Big Brother in regards to BB13). But the rigging in BB11 or BB13 doesnt bother me like, say, BB19, because ultimately the rigging didnt damage the overall season. Rachel may have won BB13, but she was in no way the producers pet, and all their more prominent pets got taken out by one of the most unlikely collections of newbies imaginable.</quote> Yeah, that's what I'm saying about Ben in the hypothetical where the FMC doesn't exist. Personally I feel it's better when Ben idols his way to 4 and then loses to Hnstlers than Ben going out at 7 and seeing Lauren, Ashley and Dr. Mike get slowly picked off to get to the same result.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 09/20/19 4:19:15 PM #55:	BlueCrystalTear posted... Espeon posted... Rachel may have won BB13, but she was in no way the producers pet uh, so let me get your alternative facts straight here... by stating what you're disregarding: Her hubby Brendon returned from a baloney "America's Vote" The F6 Pandora's Box was obviously designed to help Rachel The Veto comp after that Pandora's Box was pure endurance - something Veto NEVER is - that too blatantly resembled "No one comes between me and my banana!" Shelli voting for Rachel to win is suspicious She was definitely the producers' pet. They wanted both her and Jeff Schroeder to do well. They wanted JORDEFF to do well. The F6 rig was far more for Jordans benefit than Rachels Cause Lord knows Jordan couldnt win a comp to save her life, and Rachel could against a field of Jordan, Adam, Shelly, Porsche and I think thats probably the discrepancy in how we view the season. You see it as the producers wanted all the vets to win. I look at it as the Donatos were fan faves in BB8, Jordeff were fan faves in BB11, Brenchel are also veterans, who fought with fan favorite Britney. So I look at BB13s rigging exclusively from the perspective that the producers desperately wanted Jordeff, and to a lesser extent the Donatos, to do well. And from THAT perspective, BB13 is a glorious train wreck. You lose Dick week one, due to his HIV, and then despite the veterans dominating, Daniele turns against them, sparking a house divide that leads to Brendon, Daniele, and Jeff all getting booted by a collection of mediocre (on paper. Seriously, not even the alpha males like Keith and Dominic were around) newbies. The F6 rig was a Hail Mary to protect Jordan, and even then, she STILL goes out at the final four. Sure, the final vote is questionable, but the season feels like enough of a slap in the face to the producers for rigging, that Im okay with them only managing to give the win to their fifth or sixth choice at BEST. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever https://imgur.com/SSw6M9E <cite>Espeon posted [p:927713258] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>BlueCrystalTear posted...</cite> <quote>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote>Rachel may have won BB13, but she was in no way the producers pet</quote> uh, so let me get your alternative facts straight here... by stating what you're disregarding: Her hubby Brendon returned from a baloney "America's Vote" The F6 Pandora's Box was obviously designed to help Rachel The Veto comp after that Pandora's Box was pure endurance - something Veto NEVER is - that too blatantly resembled "No one comes between me and my banana!" Shelli voting for Rachel to win is suspicious She was definitely the producers' pet. They wanted both her and Jeff Schroeder to do well.</quote> They wanted JORDEFF to do well. The F6 rig was far more for Jordans benefit than Rachels Cause Lord knows Jordan couldnt win a comp to save her life, and Rachel could against a field of Jordan, Adam, Shelly, Porsche and I think thats probably the discrepancy in how we view the season. You see it as the producers wanted all the vets to win. I look at it as the Donatos were fan faves in BB8, Jordeff were fan faves in BB11, Brenchel are also veterans, who fought with fan favorite Britney. So I look at BB13s rigging exclusively from the perspective that the producers desperately wanted Jordeff, and to a lesser extent the Donatos, to do well. And from THAT perspective, BB13 is a glorious train wreck. You lose Dick week one, due to his HIV, and then despite the veterans dominating, Daniele turns against them, sparking a house divide that leads to Brendon, Daniele, and Jeff all getting booted by a collection of mediocre (on paper. Seriously, not even the alpha males like Keith and Dominic were around) newbies. The F6 rig was a Hail Mary to protect Jordan, and even then, she STILL goes out at the final four. Sure, the final vote is questionable, but the season feels like enough of a slap in the face to the producers for rigging, that Im okay with them only managing to give the win to their fifth or sixth choice at BEST.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 09/20/19 4:20:27 PM #56:	Mewtwo59 posted... Espeon posted... Also, something thats probably not coming across properly: Im NOT a fan of producer rigging on Big Brother (Or Survivor, but were talking about Big Brother in regards to BB13). But the rigging in BB11 or BB13 doesnt bother me like, say, BB19, because ultimately the rigging didnt damage the overall season. Rachel may have won BB13, but she was in no way the producers pet, and all their more prominent pets got taken out by one of the most unlikely collections of newbies imaginable. Yeah, that's what I'm saying about Ben in the hypothetical where the FMC doesn't exist. Personally I feel it's better when Ben idols his way to 4 and then loses to Hnstlers than Ben going out at 7 and seeing Lauren, Ashley and Dr. Mike get slowly picked off to get to the same result. Except you're wrong. IMO. Ben had already become an insufferable jackass by 7, so we would have been spared two more episodes of that. Lauren would have actually had to deal with the fallout of her game imploding at TC instead of being immediately idol'd out. There's also that murkiness where Dominick pulled the same move in the very next season (without having seen Ben do it) with playing the HII before the voting and Jeff responded differently (personally I think he did it right with Dom - let him do it but keep the revelation of the "realness" of the idol until after the votes are cast). Really the only thing we miss out on by Ben going out at 7 is Devon's ballsy move of saving himself by rogue voting Dr. Mike at 5. --- darkx <cite>Underleveled posted [p:927713310] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Mewtwo59 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote>Also, something thats probably not coming across properly: Im NOT a fan of producer rigging on Big Brother (Or Survivor, but were talking about Big Brother in regards to BB13). But the rigging in BB11 or BB13 doesnt bother me like, say, BB19, because ultimately the rigging didnt damage the overall season. Rachel may have won BB13, but she was in no way the producers pet, and all their more prominent pets got taken out by one of the most unlikely collections of newbies imaginable.</quote> Yeah, that's what I'm saying about Ben in the hypothetical where the FMC doesn't exist. Personally I feel it's better when Ben idols his way to 4 and then loses to Hnstlers than Ben going out at 7 and seeing Lauren, Ashley and Dr. Mike get slowly picked off to get to the same result.</quote> Except you're wrong. IMO. Ben had already become an insufferable jackass by 7, so we would have been spared two more episodes of that. Lauren would have actually had to deal with the fallout of her game imploding at TC instead of being immediately idol'd out. There's also that murkiness where Dominick pulled the same move in the very next season (without having seen Ben do it) with playing the HII before the voting and Jeff responded differently (personally I think he did it right with Dom - let him do it but keep the revelation of the "realness" of the idol until after the votes are cast). Really the only thing we miss out on by Ben going out at 7 is Devon's ballsy move of saving himself by rogue voting Dr. Mike at 5.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 09/20/19 4:21:02 PM #57:	Mewtwo59 posted... Espeon posted... Also, something thats probably not coming across properly: Im NOT a fan of producer rigging on Big Brother (Or Survivor, but were talking about Big Brother in regards to BB13). But the rigging in BB11 or BB13 doesnt bother me like, say, BB19, because ultimately the rigging didnt damage the overall season. Rachel may have won BB13, but she was in no way the producers pet, and all their more prominent pets got taken out by one of the most unlikely collections of newbies imaginable. Yeah, that's what I'm saying about Ben in the hypothetical where the FMC doesn't exist. Personally I feel it's better when Ben idols his way to 4 and then loses to Hnstlers than Ben going out at 7 and seeing Lauren, Ashley and Dr. Mike get slowly picked off to get to the same result. I agree that I would have ZERO qualms with the season under this scenario. The FMC just retroactively emphasizes how shitty it is that Ben needed to idol his way to the end. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever https://imgur.com/SSw6M9E <cite>Espeon posted [p:927713335] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Mewtwo59 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote>Also, something thats probably not coming across properly: Im NOT a fan of producer rigging on Big Brother (Or Survivor, but were talking about Big Brother in regards to BB13). But the rigging in BB11 or BB13 doesnt bother me like, say, BB19, because ultimately the rigging didnt damage the overall season. Rachel may have won BB13, but she was in no way the producers pet, and all their more prominent pets got taken out by one of the most unlikely collections of newbies imaginable.</quote> Yeah, that's what I'm saying about Ben in the hypothetical where the FMC doesn't exist. Personally I feel it's better when Ben idols his way to 4 and then loses to Hnstlers than Ben going out at 7 and seeing Lauren, Ashley and Dr. Mike get slowly picked off to get to the same result.</quote> I agree that I would have ZERO qualms with the season under this scenario. The FMC just retroactively emphasizes how shitty it is that Ben needed to idol his way to the end.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 09/21/19 4:00:23 PM #58:	Started listening to the RHAP podcasts with the S39 interviews. Why does everything have to be so LONG? Why can't there be short, five-minute videos of each contestant (and blogs? Why does everything need to be a podcast? Learning ANYTHING is so inconvenient nowadays, because you have to listen to it.) --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:927751941] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Started listening to the RHAP podcasts with the S39 interviews. Why does everything have to be so LONG? Why can't there be short, five-minute videos of each contestant (and blogs? Why does everything need to be a podcast? Learning ANYTHING is so inconvenient nowadays, because you have to listen to it.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peridiam 09/21/19 4:05:05 PM #59:	How long is everything? I havent kept up with S39. --- https://imgur.com/6Lra0Xf https://imgur.com/fZbEYu0 <cite>Peridiam posted [p:927752116] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>How long is everything? I havent kept up with S39.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 09/21/19 4:08:00 PM #60:	Peridiam posted... How long is everything? I havent kept up with S39. The first podcast covered 5 of the twenty contestants, and was nearly 2 hours. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:927752228] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Peridiam posted...</cite> <quote>How long is everything? I havent kept up with S39.</quote> The first podcast covered 5 of the twenty contestants, and was nearly 2 hours.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GTM 09/21/19 9:03:41 PM #61:	I haven't listened to them, but there's one with just him and nicole, and there's probably relatively shorter coverage on parade by Mike Bloom --- GTM - Boko United survivor and dillos and nintendo and wrestling <cite>GTM posted [p:927762566] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>I haven't listened to them, but there's one with just him and nicole, and there's probably relatively shorter coverage on parade by Mike Bloom</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GTM 09/21/19 10:03:09 PM #62:	BlueCrystalTear posted... wtf have you even seen the IOI cast? If you don't think that's diverse enough just saw the cast, as a chinese guy, where all the chinese at --- GTM - Boko United survivor and dillos and nintendo and you are awesome <cite>GTM posted [p:927764694] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>BlueCrystalTear posted...</cite> <quote>wtf have you even seen the IOI cast? If you don't think that's diverse enough</quote> just saw the cast, as a chinese guy, where all the chinese at</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 09/22/19 11:12:30 AM #63:	I'm almost done with my TAR3 rewatch - I only have the finale to go. Truly a testament to how much my opinions have changed in the 9 years since I've seen it, my least favorite team from my first watch is currently my favorite, and my favorite team from my first watch is in my bottom half, maybe as low as bottom 3. But, barring the finale, all but one team is going to end up at least in my green (albeit some with purple), so it's a pretty consistently solid cast. Like, I have a pretty clear #1, #2, and #12, and my 3-11 may as well be a tie, and I mean that they were all pretty good, not meh. --- darkx <cite>Underleveled posted [p:927781758] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>I'm almost done with my TAR3 rewatch - I only have the finale to go. Truly a testament to how much my opinions have changed in the 9 years since I've seen it, my least favorite team from my first watch is currently my favorite, and my favorite team from my first watch is in my bottom half, maybe as low as bottom 3. But, barring the finale, all but one team is going to end up at least in my green (albeit some with purple), so it's a pretty consistently solid cast. Like, I have a pretty clear #1, #2, and #12, and my 3-11 may as well be a tie, and I mean that they were all pretty good, not meh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GTM 09/22/19 8:33:26 PM #64:	They are wrong Tommy was the right move --- GTM - Boko United survivor and dillos and nintendo and you are awesome <cite>GTM posted [p:927804721] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>They are wrong Tommy was the right move</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GTM 09/22/19 8:36:01 PM #65:	I liked that they went through how each person felt about their game The rest is filler --- GTM - Boko United survivor and dillos and nintendo and you are awesome <cite>GTM posted [p:927804804] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>I liked that they went through how each person felt about their game The rest is filler</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GTM 09/22/19 8:56:35 PM #66:	Oh --- GTM - Boko United survivor and dillos and nintendo and you are awesome <cite>GTM posted [p:927805610] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Oh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GTM 09/22/19 8:56:57 PM #67:	Nicole wins final hoh then? --- GTM - Boko United survivor and dillos and nintendo and you are awesome <cite>GTM posted [p:927805628] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Nicole wins final hoh then?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 09/23/19 10:56:14 AM #68:	Just finished my write-up for my #77 for FY18-19. It's just shy of two whole pages on Google Docs. --- darkx <cite>Underleveled posted [p:927825838] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Just finished my write-up for my #77 for FY18-19. It's just shy of two whole pages on Google Docs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 09/23/19 12:51:43 PM #69:	Underleveled posted... Just finished my write-up for my #77 for FY18-19. It's just shy of two whole pages on Google Docs. My 77 isnt set in stone yet. Its one of two people, and depends on Wednesdays finale. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever https://imgur.com/SSw6M9E <cite>Espeon posted [p:927830441] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Underleveled posted...</cite> <quote>Just finished my write-up for my #77 for FY18-19. It's just shy of two whole pages on Google Docs.</quote> My 77 isnt set in stone yet. Its one of two people, and depends on Wednesdays finale.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 09/23/19 12:55:32 PM #70:	No matter what happens in the finale nobody would fall below my 77, but someone could certainly tempt me. --- darkx <cite>Underleveled posted [p:927830610] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>No matter what happens in the finale nobody would fall below my 77, but someone could certainly tempt me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
__LeiaRolando__ 09/23/19 1:16:22 PM #71:	I don't know if I'm going to do this or not. I have write-ups for my bottom four but I'm not feeling it. I also barely remember Celebrity Big Brother 2, believe it or not. I do not know why. --- ~ BlueCrystalTear at large ~ [this space still for lease 7 years later] https://imgur.com/sclpQaM <cite>__LeiaRolando__ posted [p:927831509] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>I don't know if I'm going to do this or not. I have write-ups for my bottom four but I'm not feeling it. I also barely remember Celebrity Big Brother 2, believe it or not. I do not know why.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Commodore 09/23/19 10:39:03 PM #73:	Just watched last night's episode. Nicole's sense of entitlement and self-importance makes her my least favorite fan favorite of all time. She fails to realize that she was handed almost everything she achieved in the house on a silver platter. Her ego is completely unfounded. --- Commodore http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad258/CommodoreTN/CommodoreBrokemonpngtu.png <cite>Commodore posted [p:927856309] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Just watched last night's episode. Nicole's sense of entitlement and self-importance makes her my least favorite fan favorite of all time. She fails to realize that she was handed almost everything she achieved in the house on a silver platter. Her ego is completely unfounded.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 09/23/19 11:01:24 PM #74:	That's a funny way of spelling Holly. --- darkx <cite>Underleveled posted [p:927857338] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>That's a funny way of spelling Holly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 09/23/19 11:02:45 PM #75:	That's a funny way of spelling Jackson. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:927857401] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>That's a funny way of spelling Jackson.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peridiam 09/24/19 2:11:30 AM #76:	Commodore posted... Just watched last night's episode. Nicole's sense of entitlement and self-importance makes her my least favorite fan favorite of all time. She fails to realize that she was handed almost everything she achieved in the house on a silver platter. Her ego is completely unfounded. Care to elaborate? --- https://imgur.com/6Lra0Xf https://imgur.com/fZbEYu0 <cite>Peridiam posted [p:927862972] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Commodore posted...</cite> <quote>Just watched last night's episode. Nicole's sense of entitlement and self-importance makes her my least favorite fan favorite of all time. She fails to realize that she was handed almost everything she achieved in the house on a silver platter. Her ego is completely unfounded.</quote> Care to elaborate?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Commodore 09/24/19 7:36:54 AM #77:	The part that really got me was calling herself an "educator". I think that title should be reserved for those with at least a Masters degree in education, not a preschool aide. --- Commodore http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad258/CommodoreTN/CommodoreBrokemonpngtu.png <cite>Commodore posted [p:927867786] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>The part that really got me was calling herself an "educator". I think that title should be reserved for those with at least a Masters degree in education, not a preschool aide.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 09/24/19 8:02:45 AM #78:	Espeon posted... Meanwhile, Big Brother (only the ones Ive seen): BB17 > BB11 > BB13 > BB10 > BB21 > BB20 > BB14 > BB18 > BB15 > BB12 > BB19 > BB16 i consider this an extremely hot take and wtf moment personally. may as well give my list. bb7>bb10>bb14>bb3>bb6>bb17>bb20>bb2>bb15>bb8>bb12>bb5> bb4>bb21>bb16>bb18>bb11>bb13>bb9>bb19 --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:927868318] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile, Big Brother (only the ones Ive seen): BB17 > BB11 > BB13 > BB10 > BB21 > BB20 > BB14 > BB18 > BB15 > BB12 > BB19 > BB16</quote> i consider this an extremely hot take and wtf moment personally. may as well give my list. bb7>bb10>bb14>bb3>bb6>bb17>bb20>bb2>bb15>bb8>bb12>bb5> bb4>bb21>bb16>bb18>bb11>bb13>bb9>bb19</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 09/24/19 8:45:58 AM #79:	Commodore posted... The part that really got me was calling herself an "educator". I think that title should be reserved for those with at least a Masters degree in education, not a preschool aide. Hmm well I can tell you that all of my educator friends (all like 50 of them) would tell you that this sounds really smug and belittling (and is objectively wrong). --- darkx <cite>Underleveled posted [p:927869362] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Commodore posted...</cite> <quote>The part that really got me was calling herself an "educator". I think that title should be reserved for those with at least a Masters degree in education, not a preschool aide.</quote> Hmm well I can tell you that all of my educator friends (all like 50 of them) would tell you that this sounds really smug and belittling (and is objectively wrong).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GTM 09/24/19 9:33:11 AM #80:	Wait that's being entitled? --- GTM - Boko United survivor and dillos and nintendo and you are awesome <cite>GTM posted [p:927870592] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Wait that's being entitled?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
__LeiaRolando__ 09/24/19 10:34:09 AM #81:	andel posted... bb7>bb10>bb14>bb3>bb6>bb17>bb20>bb2>bb15>bb8>bb12>bb5> bb4>bb21>bb16>bb18>bb11>bb13>bb9>bb19 This is very similar to my list. BB7 > BB10 > BB6 > BB3 > BB17 > BB15 > BB8 > BB14 > BB5 > BB21 > BB18 > BB12 > BB5 > BB11 > BB4 > BB19 > BB20 > BB16 > BB13 > BB9 Haven't seen BB2 (I have watched Peridiam's recap of Dr. Will's game, and that was awesome, so thanks man!). BB14 is lower for me due to the amount of production interference - an enjoyable season unlike BB13, but too much of Grodner's shit. BB8 is the same deal, with it being filled with fun gameplay and an awesome amount of drama, but just too much production manipulation. And I'm the only person who actively dislikes BB20 (~~I actually think BB19's pre-jury phase was better, given how crazy explosive it started out, and that got me REALLY invested into a season for the first time in a while, but fuck Paul~~). Commodore posted... The part that really got me was calling herself an "educator". I think that title should be reserved for those with at least a Masters degree in education, not a preschool aide. If she called herself a "professor" as a preschool aide, I'd say she's being entitled. However, she IS an "educator" and it's normal for her to refer to herself as one. That term means "a person who facilitates instruction to students" - it doesn't just mean teaching at the head of the class. --- ~ BlueCrystalTear at large ~ [this space still for lease 7 years later] https://imgur.com/sclpQaM <cite>__LeiaRolando__ posted [p:927872642] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>andel posted...</cite> <quote>bb7>bb10>bb14>bb3>bb6>bb17>bb20>bb2>bb15>bb8>bb12>bb5> bb4>bb21>bb16>bb18>bb11>bb13>bb9>bb19</quote> This is very similar to my list. BB7 > BB10 > BB6 > BB3 > BB17 > BB15 > BB8 > BB14 > BB5 > BB21 > BB18 > BB12 > BB5 > BB11 > BB4 > BB19 > BB20 > BB16 > BB13 > BB9 Haven't seen BB2 (I have watched Peridiam's recap of Dr. Will's game, and that was awesome, so thanks man!). BB14 is lower for me due to the amount of production interference - an enjoyable season unlike BB13, but too much of Grodner's shit. BB8 is the same deal, with it being filled with fun gameplay and an awesome amount of drama, but just too much production manipulation. And I'm the only person who actively dislikes BB20 (I actually think BB19's pre-jury phase was better, given how crazy explosive it started out, and that got me REALLY invested into a season for the first time in a while, but fuck Paul). Commodore posted...</cite> <quote>The part that really got me was calling herself an "educator". I think that title should be reserved for those with at least a Masters degree in education, not a preschool aide.</quote> If she called herself a "professor" as a preschool aide, I'd say she's being entitled. However, she IS an "educator" and it's normal for her to refer to herself as one. That term means "a person who facilitates instruction to students" - it doesn't just mean teaching at the head of the class.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Commodore 09/24/19 11:47:12 AM #82:	Underleveled posted... Commodore posted... The part that really got me was calling herself an "educator". I think that title should be reserved for those with at least a Masters degree in education, not a preschool aide. Hmm well I can tell you that all of my educator friends (all like 50 of them) would tell you that this sounds really smug and belittling (and is objectively wrong). Hmm well I can tell you that my educator mother who works with like 50 other teachers were all bad mouthing her at lunch the other day for making that statement. --- Commodore http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad258/CommodoreTN/CommodoreBrokemonpngtu.png <cite>Commodore posted [p:927875356] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Underleveled posted...</cite> <quote>Commodore posted...</cite> <quote>The part that really got me was calling herself an "educator". I think that title should be reserved for those with at least a Masters degree in education, not a preschool aide.</quote> Hmm well I can tell you that all of my educator friends (all like 50 of them) would tell you that this sounds really smug and belittling (and is objectively wrong).</quote> Hmm well I can tell you that my educator mother who works with like 50 other teachers were all bad mouthing her at lunch the other day for making that statement.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
__LeiaRolando__ 09/24/19 12:40:05 PM #83:	Current jury vote predix: Jack: Michie > Holly > Nicole Kat: Holly > Nicole > Michie Sis: Michie > Holly > Nicole Nick: Michie > Holly > Nicole Jessica: Nicole > Michie > Holly Christie: Holly > Nicole > Michie Tommy: Nicole > Holly > Michie Cliff: Ncole > Holly > Michie - Holly: Michie Nicole: Holly Michie: Holly It's quite interesting how well Michie managed the earlier jurors, but how poorly he managed the later jurors. It's likely to come back to bite him (see: Domenick). Might even have swayed some of the others against him, too. That might include Nick and definitely would include Kat (who already thinks he's a douche). --- ~ BlueCrystalTear at large ~ [this space still for lease 7 years later] https://imgur.com/sclpQaM <cite>__LeiaRolando__ posted [p:927877567] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Current jury vote predix: Jack: Michie > Holly > Nicole Kat: Holly > Nicole > Michie Sis: Michie > Holly > Nicole Nick: Michie > Holly > Nicole Jessica: Nicole > Michie > Holly Christie: Holly > Nicole > Michie Tommy: Nicole > Holly > Michie Cliff: Ncole > Holly > Michie - Holly: Michie Nicole: Holly Michie: Holly It's quite interesting how well Michie managed the earlier jurors, but how poorly he managed the later jurors. It's likely to come back to bite him (see: Domenick). Might even have swayed some of the others against him, too. That might include Nick and definitely would include Kat (who already thinks he's a douche).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 09/24/19 1:12:31 PM #84:	By your estimation, Michie loses to either woman, and Holly crushes Nicole. --- darkx <cite>Underleveled posted [p:927878926] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>By your estimation, Michie loses to either woman, and Holly crushes Nicole.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
__LeiaRolando__ 09/24/19 2:28:13 PM #85:	Underleveled posted... By your estimation, Michie loses to either woman, and Holly crushes Nicole. A week or two ago, I wouldn't have said that, but now he thinks he has the game won and is neglecting his late-game jury management. He could've had more votes, namely Christie, Tommy, and Cliff, had he not jilted them (the latter two especially) in the manner he did. They think he's a dirty player and won't respect him. I am getting Paul vibes from Michie at this point. While he's not a total asshole, just a douche, he neglected to manage certain jurors in the correct esteem, and that will cost him. --- ~ BlueCrystalTear at large ~ [this space still for lease 7 years later] https://imgur.com/sclpQaM <cite>__LeiaRolando__ posted [p:927882207] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Underleveled posted...</cite> <quote>By your estimation, Michie loses to either woman, and Holly crushes Nicole.</quote> A week or two ago, I wouldn't have said that, but now he thinks he has the game won and is neglecting his late-game jury management. He could've had more votes, namely Christie, Tommy, and Cliff, had he not jilted them (the latter two especially) in the manner he did. They think he's a dirty player and won't respect him. I am getting Paul vibes from Michie at this point. While he's not a total asshole, just a douche, he neglected to manage certain jurors in the correct esteem, and that will cost him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 09/24/19 2:32:12 PM #86:	I'll go more into this in my Michie write-up, but I'm noticing a trend in both BB and Survivor over the last 10 years in which the producers and editors make the main character of the season a guy who believes that big, domineering strategy and/or challenge wins is the only way to play/win the game but loses because they have no concept of jury management, and no matter how you look at it, this recurring theme is damaging to both shows. --- darkx <cite>Underleveled posted [p:927882402] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>I'll go more into this in my Michie write-up, but I'm noticing a trend in both BB and Survivor over the last 10 years in which the producers and editors make the main character of the season a guy who believes that big, domineering strategy and/or challenge wins is the only way to play/win the game but loses because they have no concept of jury management, and no matter how you look at it, this recurring theme is damaging to both shows.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 09/24/19 3:05:09 PM #87:	I don't think that's really a thing in Survivor recently. Dom and Spencer are the only people in the last 10 seasons that fit that criteria. And I'm not even sure Spencer is a perfect fit for it. --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:927883840] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>I don't think that's really a thing in Survivor recently. Dom and Spencer are the only people in the last 10 seasons that fit that criteria. And I'm not even sure Spencer is a perfect fit for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 09/24/19 3:09:41 PM #88:	You can probably make a case for Brad, but yeah I'm not actually sure we really see this that much on Survivor. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:927884061] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>You can probably make a case for Brad, but yeah I'm not actually sure we really see this that much on Survivor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
__LeiaRolando__ 09/24/19 3:35:54 PM #89:	tbh it started with Hantz, and his legacy led a lot of morons to think that's how you play the game Hantz was there during Survivor's peak (seasons 15-20) but he cast a shadow over the show that spilled into Big Brother when his little brother got on. He is responsible for the First Dark Age of Survivor. Production is responsible for the second, what with artificially trying to recreate Cagayan and Cambodia. It's getting repetitive. Big Brother is a bit better with this but it's getting tiring. We had Derrick, Vanessa, Paul twice, Tyler, and Michie in that role. Only Vanessa stands out and GEE I WONDER WHY. However, lately I haven't seen the Hantz stuff as often on Survivor, so that's good at least. It seems to have left for Big Brother... --- ~ BlueCrystalTear at large ~ [this space still for lease 7 years later] https://imgur.com/sclpQaM <cite>__LeiaRolando__ posted [p:927885213] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>tbh it started with Hantz, and his legacy led a lot of morons to think that's how you play the game Hantz was there during Survivor's peak (seasons 15-20) but he cast a shadow over the show that spilled into Big Brother when his little brother got on. He is responsible for the First Dark Age of Survivor. Production is responsible for the second, what with artificially trying to recreate Cagayan and Cambodia. It's getting repetitive. Big Brother is a bit better with this but it's getting tiring. We had Derrick, Vanessa, Paul twice, Tyler, and Michie in that role. Only Vanessa stands out and GEE I WONDER WHY. However, lately I haven't seen the Hantz stuff as often on Survivor, so that's good at least. It seems to have left for Big Brother...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 09/24/19 7:27:41 PM #90:	i think jackson will beat holly in the final two and if holly somehow cut jackson i think she is likely to beat nicole but that seems very unlikely --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:927896129] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>i think jackson will beat holly in the final two and if holly somehow cut jackson i think she is likely to beat nicole but that seems very unlikely</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 09/24/19 7:32:12 PM #91:	andel posted... i think jackson will beat holly in the final two and if holly somehow cut jackson i think she is likely to beat nicole but that seems very unlikely Eh, with the awful way the finale is set up, I don't see this happening. The jury usually has their minds made up going into it. Whereas in the older seasons, when it was formatted properly, they had the roundtable with all jurors, so they all had a chance to factor in the final HOH's decision. Now, they only have to think "Nicole > Michie > Holly" in their heads and that final decision doesn't germ at all. Also the final juror should at least get to sleep on it. Why not have the penultimate episode be that eviction? The 90-minute finale is the perfect length, but with how much they jam into it, it feels like it isn't... --- BlueCrystalTear \| GNT BB4 Winner, Winner Chicken Dinner 3DS 4356-4163-4781 \| (((FREE HUGS))) \| You're living your own life. You're you. <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:927896316] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>andel posted...</cite> <quote>i think jackson will beat holly in the final two and if holly somehow cut jackson i think she is likely to beat nicole but that seems very unlikely</quote> Eh, with the awful way the finale is set up, I don't see this happening. The jury usually has their minds made up going into it. Whereas in the older seasons, when it was formatted properly, they had the roundtable with all jurors, so they all had a chance to factor in the final HOH's decision. Now, they only have to think "Nicole > Michie > Holly" in their heads and that final decision doesn't germ at all. Also the final juror should at least get to sleep on it. Why not have the penultimate episode be that eviction? The 90-minute finale is the perfect length, but with how much they jam into it, it feels like it isn't...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 09/24/19 8:50:23 PM #92:	Well your prediction has 6 votes for Holly vs Nicole, so even you think Holly wins that one. --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:927899702] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Well your prediction has 6 votes for Holly vs Nicole, so even you think Holly wins that one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 09/25/19 10:10:09 AM #93:	Tonight --- darkx <cite>Underleveled posted [p:927919468] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Tonight</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 09/25/19 12:31:03 PM #94:	i think tommy/christie/cliff are all likely jackson votes and think those 3 will ultimately decide the winner. if they go the other way holly could definitely win. also glad to see dr will is hosting the roundtable again. rumors were that jess graf would be the host which would have sucked for sure --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:927925328] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>i think tommy/christie/cliff are all likely jackson votes and think those 3 will ultimately decide the winner. if they go the other way holly could definitely win. also glad to see dr will is hosting the roundtable again. rumors were that jess graf would be the host which would have sucked for sure</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
__LeiaRolando__ 09/25/19 12:40:10 PM #95:	andel posted... also glad to see dr will is hosting the roundtable again. rumors were that jess graf would be the host which would have sucked for sure I think that was just baseless crap from "interpreting" a tweet in a certain way. While I like Jessica Graf fine, she's no Dr. Will, and is definitely not the right person for that job. We need a master at the game who asks provocative questions. Jessica fulfills neither. --- ~ BlueCrystalTear at large ~ [this space still for lease 7 years later] https://imgur.com/sclpQaM <cite>__LeiaRolando__ posted [p:927925746] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>andel posted...</cite> <quote>also glad to see dr will is hosting the roundtable again. rumors were that jess graf would be the host which would have sucked for sure</quote> I think that was just baseless crap from "interpreting" a tweet in a certain way. While I like Jessica Graf fine, she's no Dr. Will, and is definitely not the right person for that job. We need a master at the game who asks provocative questions. Jessica fulfills neither.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 09/25/19 12:49:24 PM #96:	Hmm... I could maybe see Jess replacing Jeff S someday. --- darkx <cite>Underleveled posted [p:927926182] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Hmm... I could maybe see Jess replacing Jeff S someday.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 09/25/19 12:53:41 PM #97:	I just hope Jackson loses. I want to continue the trend of asshole control freaks losing to inferior opponents until future players learn to stop trying to guide every single event in a given season. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever https://imgur.com/SSw6M9E <cite>Espeon posted [p:927926399] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>I just hope Jackson loses. I want to continue the trend of asshole control freaks losing to inferior opponents until future players learn to stop trying to guide every single event in a given season.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 09/25/19 4:54:56 PM #98:	__LeiaRolando__ posted... andel posted... also glad to see dr will is hosting the roundtable again. rumors were that jess graf would be the host which would have sucked for sure I think that was just baseless crap from "interpreting" a tweet in a certain way. While I like Jessica Graf fine, she's no Dr. Will, and is definitely not the right person for that job. We need a master at the game who asks provocative questions. Jessica fulfills neither. agreed. she didn't even make jury in her season --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:927937484] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>__LeiaRolando__ posted...</cite> <quote>andel posted...</cite> <quote>also glad to see dr will is hosting the roundtable again. rumors were that jess graf would be the host which would have sucked for sure</quote> I think that was just baseless crap from "interpreting" a tweet in a certain way. While I like Jessica Graf fine, she's no Dr. Will, and is definitely not the right person for that job. We need a master at the game who asks provocative questions. Jessica fulfills neither.</quote> agreed. she didn't even make jury in her season</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 09/25/19 4:55:50 PM #99:	i am definitely pulling for jackson to win over holly but if nicole could somehow manage to get in final two will definitely root for her --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:927937525] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>i am definitely pulling for jackson to win over holly but if nicole could somehow manage to get in final two will definitely root for her</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 09/25/19 4:58:05 PM #100:	3 hours until boston rob graces our television screens once again --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:927937647] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>3 hours until boston rob graces our television screens once again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peridiam 09/25/19 5:17:51 PM #101:	Espeon posted... I just hope Jackson loses. I want to continue the trend of asshole control freaks losing to inferior opponents until future players learn to stop trying to guide every single event in a given season. lol, this has been happening since Day 1 of BB2. Not happening. Im predicting Jackson wins tonight, probably 7-2. --- https://imgur.com/6Lra0Xf https://imgur.com/fZbEYu0 <cite>Peridiam posted [p:927938523] in Survivor I... [t:78027525]...</cite> <quote>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote>I just hope Jackson loses. I want to continue the trend of asshole control freaks losing to inferior opponents until future players learn to stop trying to guide every single event in a given season.</quote> lol, this has been happening since Day 1 of BB2. Not happening. Im predicting Jackson wins tonight, probably 7-2.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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