Poll of the Day > If Donald Trump Wins despite being RACIST, What would that tell us???

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mrduckbear
09/19/19 11:02:02 PM
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A lot of people say Justin Trudeau is finished after that "brownface" scandal and conservatives are harping on the attack because they needed a silver bullet after polls say they are deadlocked.

It has been known that liberal voters are more likely than conservative voters to change their votes to other parties and they are good at trolling left voters to splinter the liberal vote.

Looking back at Trump and Bernie voters is a good example..trump said bernie should run as an independent after what Democrats did to him and Berniebros voted for Trump cause they hated feminism.

Scandals hurt liberal politicians moreso than it does conservative politicians..just look at Steve King..a self admitted white surpemacist and racist but he still wins numerous times.

Doug Jones barely scraped by that win in Alabama after conservatives chose to stay at home rather than vote for a democrat despite Roy Moore's pedo scandal

After Trump went full racist and said "go back to where you came from" and "there's good people on both sides",if he still wins the election despite all that, what does it say about voters?.

This is what conservatives are good at though. They are good at changing the mind of liberal voters to choose "morals" over "issues" which ironically conservatives don't preach themselves given trump's "religious morals" but it's about the win.

A recent poll also suggested that 50% of voters believe that Trump IS Racist but that his policies doesn't reflect his racism..with that in mind, maybe that's why the election is still very close to american voters..

This trudeau situation will be a test on the left vote. most people don't consider blackface or brownface as racist as "context" is what matters. But as we've seen before, the left has more options when it comes to voting than conservatives..it's 3 vs 2 in Canada but it's realistically 3 vs 1 and the left vote has the disadvantage

Conservatives are good at trolling the left to vote on "feelings" so expect that to ramp up

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wwinterj25
09/19/19 11:53:19 PM
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I don't know but is Trump hot? Let's see what people think.
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_PandaMaster_
09/19/19 11:54:41 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
I don't know but is Trump hot? Let's see what people think.

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streamofthesky
09/20/19 12:05:16 AM
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He already won despite being racist back in 2016.

It told us a lot.

He could totally win again, and as the sitting president honestly has the advantage no matter what his % approval polls may say.

I don't know how many Bernie voters went and voted for Trump....that seems pretty fucking stupid and self-defeating. This Bernie voter went for Gary Johnson, but if I lived in a battleground state I would've held my nose and voted for Her, of "I'm with her" fame (what a terrible idea for a slogan...).
If you didn't like Hillary there was no need to vote for Trump vs. third party or leaving that field on the ballot empty. I have no sympathy for anyone who claims they voted for him only b/c they didn't like Hillary. Stop lying.
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therickmu25
09/20/19 12:11:29 AM
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not one person here can give a factual example of him being racist. The only fact is hes gotten more African Americans out of poverty than any president in history. Keep living your life indoctrinated by what your teachers push on you.
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GanonsSpirit
09/20/19 12:23:18 AM
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therickmu25 posted...
a factual example of him being racist. The only fact is hes gotten more African Americans out of poverty than any president in history. Keep living your life indoctrinated by what your teachers push on you.

Nobody tries to claim that he's racist against black people, but everyone that defends him against it talks about black people. He's racist against Hispanics and Middle Easterners.
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zebatov
09/20/19 12:26:30 AM
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Brown-face, SNC-Lavalin, groping, gross overspending, taxing everything, taxing the taxes, welcoming terrorists into my country, giving vets the middle-finger, making an ass of himself universally. List goes on. Hes not done because of brown-face.

And thats entirely false. Most PoCs find any cultural appropriation offensive. So itll be interesting to see what excuses they make (Hes changed! Hes grown!) to vote for him.

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Aaantlion
09/20/19 12:28:40 AM
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Overlooking that he's not racist, he won once and could do it again given the candidates that the democrats are fielding. The thing with Trudeau is new (and unlikely to tank him because he's Trudeau) whereas the fundamentals of the Trump complaints date back before he was elected the first time.

mrduckbear posted...
This is what conservatives are good at though. They are good at changing the mind of liberal voters to choose "morals" over "issues" which ironically conservatives don't preach themselves given trump's "religious morals" but it's about the win.


...what?

streamofthesky posted...
I don't know how many Bernie voters went and voted for Trump....that seems pretty fucking stupid and self-defeating. This Bernie voter went for Gary Johnson, but if I lived in a battleground state I would've held my nose and voted for Her, of "I'm with her" fame (what a terrible idea for a slogan...).
If you didn't like Hillary there was no need to vote for Trump vs. third party or leaving that field on the ballot empty. I have no sympathy for anyone who claims they voted for him only b/c they didn't like Hillary. Stop lying.


Depends on why they voted for Bernie. If they wanted an anti-establishment candidate, Trump would seem appealing on those grounds. The idea that if you want Bernie, your second choice is Hillary is hilariously flawed.
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therickmu25
09/20/19 12:29:08 AM
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GanonsSpirit posted...
therickmu25 posted...
a factual example of him being racist. The only fact is hes gotten more African Americans out of poverty than any president in history. Keep living your life indoctrinated by what your teachers push on you.

Nobody tries to claim that he's racist against black people, but everyone that defends him against it talks about black people. He's racist against Hispanics and Middle Easterners.


But hes not at all. Why because he says our country should have a border and welcomes all to come here legally? Hes never said no one is welcome here, hes totally against illegal immigration, keyword illegal.
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GastroFan
09/20/19 4:28:07 PM
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therickmu25 posted...
GanonsSpirit posted...
therickmu25 posted...
a factual example of him being racist. The only fact is hes gotten more African Americans out of poverty than any president in history. Keep living your life indoctrinated by what your teachers push on you.

Nobody tries to claim that he's racist against black people, but everyone that defends him against it talks about black people. He's racist against Hispanics and Middle Easterners.


But hes not at all. Why because he says our country should have a border and welcomes all to come here legally? Hes never said no one is welcome here, hes totally against illegal immigration, keyword illegal.


He's also against those who seek asylum in the US which is LEGAL. He's openly talked about wanting people to come here from places like Norway (which is mostly, if not all, white); not the countries where they are coming from (which is south of the US border). That, to me, indicates that race is definitely a qualifier in whether or not he and his supporters will let you even come to the US, along with his 'very fine people on both sides' comment with regard to Charlottesville. He disrespects anyone who isn't like him: see his comments about Puerto Rico, the Central Park Five, Elijah Cummings, Baltimore, Lewis from Atlanta, etc. which doesn't include the 'nasty' comments he makes about any woman who stands up to him (even Meghan Markle who is now a member of the British royal family). He's crass, sanctimonious, self-absorbed, odious, despicable, disgusting, rude, crude, lewd and I don't like the way his mother dresses him so there.
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Roachmeat
09/20/19 4:52:34 PM
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I won't say Trump is racist, but he is definitely using their strategies to keep us distracted from the other bad stuff getting by.

For instance, I think something was lifted recently to allow companies to dump dangerous stuff in our river water (again). Get ready for Captain Planet the home game if you drink water out of your faucet.
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ForteEXE3850
09/20/19 4:54:22 PM
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My definition of not being racist is not caring about the the feelings of races, but equally not giving a crap about any race.
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Phantom_Nook
09/20/19 6:18:15 PM
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therickmu25 posted...
a factual example of him being racist.

Telling minority women born in America to "go back where they came from" is a recent example.
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SKARDAVNELNATE
09/21/19 12:31:14 AM
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I think it tells us...
1) Trump is not actually racist.
2) At least half of the voters in the country reject the Democrat's obsession with race.
3) All the Democrats had to do was be less crazy than Trump and they couldn't even manage that.
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Zareth
09/21/19 12:41:27 AM
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He's more xenophobic than racist.
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SKARDAVNELNATE
09/21/19 12:59:15 AM
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Zareth posted...
He's more xenophobic than racist.

It's more about nationalism. If you were to view a country as a set of values then race doesn't matter. Anyone of any race can share those values and contribute to the country. Trump calls out people that don't share those values. Those who have a racial agenda for the country don't see it as a set of values and because they only rational events in terms of race they misconstrue Trump's motives.
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Yellow
09/21/19 1:01:08 AM
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I'd have a much easier time deconverting a religious person than any Trump supporter.

Religious people eventually become agnostic, Trump supporters just change the subject into oblivion.

Talk about his bad policies, response is the Democrats' bad attitude.
Talk about his attitude, response is the Democrats' bad policies.

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Grendel
09/21/19 1:43:30 AM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
At least half of the voters in the country reject the Democrat's obsession with race.


There's no guarantee it would tell us this because the electoral college is a useless relic that subverts the will of the people. Donald lost the popular vote.
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BlackScythe0
09/21/19 1:47:55 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
He already won despite being racist back in 2016.

It told us a lot.

He could totally win again, and as the sitting president honestly has the advantage no matter what his % approval polls may say.

I don't know how many Bernie voters went and voted for Trump....that seems pretty fucking stupid and self-defeating. This Bernie voter went for Gary Johnson, but if I lived in a battleground state I would've held my nose and voted for Her, of "I'm with her" fame (what a terrible idea for a slogan...).
If you didn't like Hillary there was no need to vote for Trump vs. third party or leaving that field on the ballot empty. I have no sympathy for anyone who claims they voted for him only b/c they didn't like Hillary. Stop lying.


I think it's less Bernie voters voting Trump (which I'm sure some did) and more staying home because Hillary had her surrogates all over TV for a few months during the primary calling a big portion of her base sexist.

I can kinda, kinda, understand how some people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Racism isn't a deal breaker to some people.

He isn't getting the benefit of the doubt this time, we know how awful he is. He isn't going to get the benefit of the democrat base just staying home regardless of who becomes candidate.

The question is how much of his 40% approval rating going to come out to vote for him in relation to everyone else.
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SKARDAVNELNATE
09/21/19 1:59:26 AM
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Grendel posted...
There's no guarantee it would tell us this

It's a fair assumption that some Democrat voters also reject the race obsession but are voting for other policies they agree with.

Grendel posted...
Donald lost the popular vote.

I thought it had been determined that this is only so because Google interfered with the election, having influenced voters with biased search results.
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fishy071
09/21/19 2:03:11 AM
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It's just more proof that people are evil. I already see people as evil until they can each individually prove themselves to me that they're not. Sorry, but I can't take chances.
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Phantom_Nook
09/21/19 2:24:20 AM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Google interfered with the election


They recently kicked a bunch of people out of the party for having the wrong skin color.

lol wtf is this shit.
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BlackScythe0
09/21/19 2:30:43 AM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Do the Democrats still have a base? They recently kicked a bunch of people out of the party for having the wrong skin color.


Anyone know what he is talking about?
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Grendel
09/21/19 3:08:43 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...

Anyone know what he is talking about?

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Mead
09/21/19 3:08:54 AM
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Aaantlion posted...
Overlooking that he's not racist


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streamofthesky
09/21/19 4:26:55 AM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Google interfered with the election


They recently kicked a bunch of people out of the party for having the wrong skin color.

lol wtf is this shit.


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/78027272/927690172
SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
I'm an independent so I vote against either side depending on which one is the craziest at the time.


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GanonsSpirit
09/21/19 6:37:25 AM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
It's more about nationalism.

Once again, telling American born minority women to go back where they came from isn't nationalism.
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Brasen
09/21/19 6:49:00 AM
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GanonsSpirit posted...
SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
It's more about nationalism.

Once again, telling American born minority women to go back where they came from isn't nationalism.


Since you left out some context here along with mis-wording what he actually said. Let's address it with context in full, shall we?

"Why don't they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it's done." -Trump

So yep, sounds like nationalism to me. Especially considering all the minority women he was addressing only does soundbites about how terrible America is on this and that.

America is the most charitable nation in the world. We also take in more immigrants (legal and otherwise) than any other country in the world. And more people, no matter their race/gender/etc, have risen through the economical ranks of success here, the usa, than any where else on earth past or present. Even our poor live like kings compared to most other nations presently.

And these kooks think they have all the answers with "free shit/promises" and "ideological shame this or that"? ...fucking pleeeaeseee.

So yeah it is more about nationalism.
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Noop_Noop
09/21/19 10:43:00 AM
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Duckbear is way more racist than trump, he simply lacks the power to act on it or the motivation to gain that power.
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JTekashiro
09/21/19 11:58:27 AM
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zebatov posted...
Brown-face, SNC-Lavalin, groping, gross overspending, taxing everything, taxing the taxes, welcoming terrorists into my country, giving vets the middle-finger, making an ass of himself universally. List goes on. Hes not done because of brown-face.

And thats entirely false. Most PoCs find any cultural appropriation offensive. So itll be interesting to see what excuses they make (Hes changed! Hes grown!) to vote for him.

If Trump wins its because he deserves to be there.


The brownface issue is laughable. Yes, it is in bad taste and wouldn't be done today but he didn't do it today, it was almost 20 years ago. Who is the other option? The Conservative Party? The same one that ran on dogwhistle politics with their "old stock Canadians" and "barbaric tips hotline" platform in 2015? Yeah, they are clearly the better option if you are upset at somebody wearing blackface decades ago...

Also, Conservatives are pro-tax. The only reason they oppose the carbon tax is literally because the Liberals put it forward. Every reputable economist in the world agrees with the carbon tax to the point it has won a Nobel freaking prize,

Gross overspending? Don't let the fact that their spending has done wonders for the economy, which is strong and not being brought up this election for that reason, get in the way of a good argument, right? That darn Trudope...

Finally, welcoming terrorists into "my" country is a big sign of you, an obviously white immigrant, ignoring the history of Canada being built through colonialism. I'm sure you also think the Khadr decision was about a terrorist getting money, not a Canadian having his rights violated.

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The_tall_midget
09/21/19 3:11:03 PM
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*Throws popcorn in his mouth while lefties continue to lose their minds*

And the lol Gamefaqs mods continue to claim TDS does not exist.
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Phantom_Nook
09/21/19 3:32:50 PM
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The_tall_midget posted...
And the lol Gamefaqs mods continue to claim TDS does not exist.

Is that when Republicans found a senile racist conman and decided to worship him?
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09/21/19 4:18:50 PM
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GanonsSpirit
09/21/19 4:35:44 PM
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Brasen posted...
Since you left out some context here along with mis-wording what he actually said. Let's address it with context in full, shall we?

"Why don't they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it's done." -Trump

And before that he said this:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1150381394234941448

Why do you even bother lying about something he's put down in text for the world to see? The rest of your post is irrelevant to the topic at hand.
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The_tall_midget
09/21/19 5:01:04 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
Is that when Republicans found a senile racist conman and decided to worship him?


Are we talking actual racism, or the lefties definition of racism which includes anyone who disagrees with their idiotic views?

But don't worry, the left still has senile, crazy Bernie to promise to throw more free shit at their lazy, useless asses.
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PKMNsony
09/21/19 5:02:57 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
The_tall_midget posted...
And the lol Gamefaqs mods continue to claim TDS does not exist.

Is that when Republicans found a senile racist conman and decided to worship him?

OH MAN, GOT'EM!
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BlackScythe0
09/21/19 5:12:27 PM
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The_tall_midget posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
Is that when Republicans found a senile racist conman and decided to worship him?


Are we talking actual racism, or the lefties definition of racism which includes anyone who disagrees with their idiotic views?

But don't worry, the left still has senile, crazy Bernie to promise to throw more free shit at their lazy, useless asses.


Yea the only way you can be racist is to say "Yea I'm racist"

No racist has ever denied being racist. Never.
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Phantom_Nook
09/21/19 5:21:35 PM
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The_tall_midget posted...
Are we talking actual racism

If by that you mean "saying and doing racist things," then yes.
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GanonsSpirit
09/27/19 11:48:42 AM
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GanonsSpirit posted...
Brasen posted...
Since you left out some context here along with mis-wording what he actually said. Let's address it with context in full, shall we?

"Why don't they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it's done." -Trump

And before that he said this:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1150381394234941448

Why do you even bother lying about something he's put down in text for the world to see? The rest of your post is irrelevant to the topic at hand.

@Brasen you forgot to come back and respond to this.
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RazielandKain
09/27/19 10:46:51 PM
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That enough voters are tired of the race baiting and don't give a damn anymore. They're so tired of it in fact that they would elect someone they might not think is appropriate for the job just to watch obnoxious people who constantly nag about racism have a melt down, lol.
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ferko420
09/27/19 11:26:46 PM
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Yeah America as a country and super power is in the start of collapse. Sit back and enjoy, although Boris and brexit shall be plenty Entertaining.
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