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Jakyl25 09/19/19 2:53:59 PM #1: |
Iran so far away.
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LordoftheMorons 09/19/19 3:52:52 PM #2: |
More on the whistleblower complaint:
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LordoftheMorons 09/19/19 3:57:13 PM #3: |
Guess: the promise was to give military aid to Ukraine in exchange for them doing a baseless investigation into Joe Biden (Trump had a phone call with Ukraines president around that time).
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xp1337 09/19/19 4:02:46 PM #4: |
Is that really repeated action though as that tweet describes? I suppose it could be behind the scenes, but that strikes me as a singular event and not repeated efforts.
My guess is still on Russia if only because you have the combo platter of known stuff happening around that time: frozen Ukraine aid/Crimea, the exfiltration story dropping in this timeframe, sanctions in general to say nothing of things that may have been happening that we have no info on. I feel like statistically there's the most stuff there so you're bound to be more likely to be right in that direction. And as noted, there was a phone call that more or less matches the whistleblower timeframe there. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 09/19/19 5:13:02 PM #5: |
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1174696521914339328?s=21
....Knowing all of this, is anybody dumb enough to believe that I would say something inappropriate with a foreign leader while on such a potentially heavily populated call. I would only do what is right anyway, and only do good for the USA! Is this a trick question? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Reg 09/19/19 5:15:37 PM #6: |
Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1174696521914339328?s=21....Knowing all of this, is anybody dumb enough to believe that I would say something inappropriate with a foreign leader while on such a potentially heavily populated call. I would only do what is right anyway, and only do good for the USA! Donald 100% did not personally write this pair of tweets btw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 09/19/19 5:18:14 PM #7: |
Does Donald ever call it the USA as the direct object in a sentence? I feel like its always just USA
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GildedFool 09/19/19 6:54:46 PM #8: |
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LordoftheMorons 09/19/19 9:38:49 PM #9: |
Aaaand it was Ukraine:
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LordoftheMorons 09/19/19 9:55:58 PM #10: |
Anyway, if it is the obvious quid pro quo that Rudy was floating earlier, I dont see how anyone can possibly argue that Trump doesnt need to be impeached.
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LordoftheMorons 09/19/19 9:57:03 PM #11: |
https://twitter.com/cuomoprimetime/status/1174856562898128897?s=21
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xp1337 09/19/19 10:23:32 PM #12: |
We know Guiliani has been trying to get that to happen for weeks (months?) now, though, didn't we? Not saying that makes it "better" but part of the reason I had been leaning Russia over Ukraine on this (whoops!) had been that the Guiliani push on this had been public for a long time now.
Anyway, good call on that LotM. LordoftheMorons posted... Anyway, if it is the obvious quid pro quo that Rudy was floating earlier, I dont see how anyone can possibly argue that Trump doesnt need to be impeached. asking a foreign government to investigate your political opponents is very legal and very cool --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Reg 09/19/19 10:24:21 PM #13: |
LordoftheMorons posted...
Aaaand it was Ukraine: Oh wow. Makes sense in the context of Rudy's shit/the demands for Ukraine to investigate Biden. But if you had told me it was Ukraine-related I still would've guessed Putin doing something before that <_< ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 09/19/19 10:26:11 PM #14: |
Please. Democrats saw nothing wrong with getting dirt on Trump from foreign agents.
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LordoftheMorons 09/19/19 10:27:33 PM #15: |
The fact that Trumps scandals are way less damaging to him when he (or Rudy) just do them openly (e.g. Trump does a lot of his obstruction openly) than they would be if they came out as a secret (Trump tower meeting or Access Hollywood, say) is probably one of the central stories of this era
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Reg 09/19/19 10:33:34 PM #16: |
Relatedly, Trump had his literal "when the president does it, that means it's not illegal" moment today.
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ChaosTonyV4 09/19/19 10:57:22 PM #17: |
https://twitter.com/krystalball/status/1174486548936568835?s=21
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Jakyl25 09/20/19 12:06:06 AM #18: |
https://twitter.com/rudygiuliani/status/1174879405988077568?s=21
A President telling a Pres-elect of a well known corrupt country he better investigate corruption that affects US is doing his job. Maybe if Obama did that the Biden Family wouldnt have bilked millions from Ukraine and billions from China; being covered up by a Corrupt Media. Please no one ever tell Rudy what hes doing wrong --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 09/20/19 12:20:26 AM #19: |
Lmao in the comments theyre saying the Trump administration just gave Ukraine the funds either yesterday or a week ago, AFTER the whistleblower complaint.
Did they really get caught red-handed extorting another country, and try to cover it up by not letting the complain get released/giving Ukraine the money? --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 09/20/19 12:22:35 AM #20: |
I mentioned in the previous topic (albeit I was arguing a different path since we didn't know the country at the time) that the Ukraine aid package had been frozen and was only released the day the existence of the whistleblower complaint made its way to Schiff (House Intel) if you looked at the timeline.
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Jakyl25 09/20/19 12:39:09 AM #21: |
I found the greatest official government statement ever in an article about a Marine using excessive force to break up a fight between two teens
He just wanted to do what was right for the school when no one else was stepping in, said Sgt. Jocelyn Ontiveros at the Marines Sacramento recruiting station, which oversees the substation in Stockton where Valdez Sarmiento is helping out with recruiting while home from boot camp. The Marine Corps doesnt condone violence. EDIT: Heres what he did BTW https://twitter.com/chadgarland/status/1172599159309983744?s=21 --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 09/20/19 1:13:15 AM #22: |
So I just read an article where Biden publicly threatened to withhold a billion dollars in credit to Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor directly investigating his son, so uh, Im not sure this is gonna go anywhere.
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LordoftheMorons 09/20/19 1:22:42 AM #23: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
So I just read an article where Biden publicly threatened to withhold a billion dollars in credit to Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor directly investigating his son, so uh, Im not sure this is gonna go anywhere. https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2019/may/07/viral-image/fact-checking-joe-biden-hunter-biden-and-ukraine/ Key takeaways And even if there were something to Giuliani's allegations (which there very likely aren't), it would still be an impeachable offense for Trump to abuse his office to strongarm the Ukrainians into helping him prove it. --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 09/20/19 2:18:29 AM #24: |
https://twitter.com/JeffreyCook/status/1174885989908484097
No Fucks Beto is best Beto so glad to see Chuck getting called out for once, god he sucks --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 09/20/19 2:20:36 AM #25: |
Right. Its like the James Comey firing. It can be true that both Comey committed a fireable offense AND that Trump was obstructing justice by firing him for the reasons he did.
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StealThisSheen 09/20/19 2:28:48 AM #26: |
I'll be honest, I'd vote for No Fucks Beto.
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MoogleKupo141 09/20/19 2:29:46 AM #27: |
Beto seems like a cool dude sometimes... I dont really want him to be president now, but Id be cool with him as hypotehtical Warrens VP
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GuessMyUserName 09/20/19 9:19:27 AM #28: |
https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1174866930227994625
end of Rudy on Cuomo last night is equal parts insane and hilarious --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 09/20/19 9:50:17 AM #29: |
de Blasio out
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xp1337 09/20/19 10:43:18 AM #30: |
GuessMyUserName posted...
https://twitter.com/JeffreyCook/status/1174885989908484097 Schumer has been a bad Minority Leader and calling him out is great and all and I get it. but calling him out on this particular issue is a little silly Schumer sponsored the Brady Bill in the House and wrote the assault weapons ban. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeroDelTiempo17 09/20/19 11:01:23 AM #31: |
Then it sounds like Schumer should agree with Beto instead of saying no one does, considering they have significant overlap.
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xp1337 09/20/19 11:04:05 AM #32: |
What Schumer said was stupid, yes! I'm just saying that Beto's comeback was a misfire too! It just doesn't feel that way because there are tons of things to criticize Schumer for but Beto picked like the one area where Schumer actually has a record!
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red sox 777 09/20/19 11:15:37 AM #33: |
Schumer is the most swishy washy flip flopper since Mitt Romney.
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Corrik7 09/20/19 11:32:52 AM #34: |
Jakyl25 posted... https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1174696521914339328?s=21Would he say something inappropriate if it wasn't a potentially highly populated call? --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 09/20/19 11:56:20 AM #35: |
From Trump this morning
Asked if he discussed former vice president Joe Biden with Ukraine's president, Trump said it "doesn't matter what I discussed" but added that someone should look into Biden. LOL --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 09/20/19 12:53:43 PM #36: |
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1175023772375683074?s=21
Not to discount the heavy possibility of Trump just making shit up, but how would Trump know if the whistleblower was highly partisan unless someone leaked their identity to him? --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 09/20/19 12:55:29 PM #37: |
LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1175023772375683074?s=21 Without even reading it, Trump probably thinks anyone who criticizes him is by definition highly partisan. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 09/20/19 12:55:58 PM #38: |
Hes on the case. Hell find the clues to piece this all together. Right now he only has some of the info.
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Dancedreamer 09/20/19 1:02:12 PM #39: |
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de Blasio out I feel like it's time for most of them to drop out. Should be left with: -Biden -Warren -Sanders -Buttigieg -Harris -O'Rourke -Yang -Booker --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Suprak the Stud 09/20/19 1:04:20 PM #40: |
GuessMyUserName posted...
de Blasio out Finally. What a terribly run campaign from start to finish. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 09/20/19 1:11:40 PM #41: |
Dancedreamer posted...
GuessMyUserName posted...de Blasio out Slice Booker and Beto off this list as well. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Grimlyn 09/20/19 1:23:38 PM #42: |
tbh boot off Harris before Beto
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LordoftheMorons 09/20/19 2:22:28 PM #43: |
Booker has a role (back up for Bidens lane if he falls apart)
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LordoftheMorons 09/20/19 2:24:37 PM #44: |
Impeachable offenses are actually fine and good
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Espeon 09/20/19 2:28:30 PM #45: |
Is it just me, or is his logic:
Joe Biden was using back channels to talk to Ukraine for alleged personal gain, which hes saying is BAD. So then he used back channels to talk to Ukraine for alleged personal gain. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever https://imgur.com/SSw6M9E ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Not_an_Owl 09/20/19 3:02:38 PM #46: |
Point of order: There is no legal definition of an "impeachable offense". There are only things the House will vote to impeach over. You can point to a certain action and say that person ought to be impeached over it, but to call something "impeachable" is disingenuous.
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LordoftheMorons 09/20/19 3:09:35 PM #47: |
The Constitution does specifically list treason and bribery as impeachable offenses...!
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red sox 777 09/20/19 3:11:25 PM #48: |
Yes, but treason is limited to warring against the United States or providing aid and comfort to their enemies. Bribery would be more like what Biden is accused of doing. Trump's actions here would be more akin to working with law enforcement in other countries to bring an international criminal cartel to justice.
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Jakyl25 09/20/19 3:54:02 PM #49: |
https://twitter.com/markberman/status/1175131347716845573?s=21
WSJ reporting that during July phone call, Trump repeatedly urged the president of Ukraine -- "about eight times" -- to work with Giuliani to investigate Biden's son --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Not_an_Owl 09/20/19 4:38:01 PM #50: |
LordoftheMorons posted...
The Constitution does specifically list treason and bribery as impeachable offenses...! True, and if you can prove Trump committed treason or bribery to the satisfaction of a court of law you might even have a point! --- Besides, marijuana is far more harmful than steroids. - BlitzBomb I headbang to Bruckner. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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