Board 8 > Raetsel ranks 300 songs [Rankings]

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#210 [#188]:

Name: In the Eyes of the World
Origin: The Flower Kings
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtjRbVnlmkU" data-time="

Nominator: NBIceman (14/15)

(5, 5, 5.5)

[I dont think it needed to be ten minutes long. Not bad, just long for the sake of being long.]

Again nothing wrong with long songs, but this never feels like it does enough to justify the length. "Lady Fantasy" had the song divided into three distinct sections and while I wasn't enamored with it, I could at least admit that it needed the length for what it was going for. This song starts off strong, but never manages to move beyond "good".

[Final Thought: Does that opening remind anyone else of Inspector Gadget or is that just me?]

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#209 [#216]:

Name: Everyday
Origin: Weyes Blood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ-BFlTo5ag" data-time="

Nominator: mcflubbin (7/10)

(2, 4, ... 5.5 if I cheat and use a Spotify link ; 0 if I'm forced to include the horror video)

[I was going to question the horror video, but I doubt I want an answer.]

The slasher video is tame enough that I can't really complain about it, yet I want to complain about it and am complaining about it, which doesn't really make sense but then I started typing without really thinking about what I was going to say and now we're just kinda stuck rambling because I didn't have a plan when this started and I'm not sure how it's going to end, but seriously, why a slasher video--and I mean that in all possible versions of the question as in why did you nominate the video when you could have not made me watch a bunch of death, why did she go with that as the video for her 70s inspired love song, why did no one stop her, why did no one stop me from starting this run-on sentence, does this count as a "run on sentence" if there are multiple questions contained within it, and is "run-on" sentence hyphenated or not?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4bB_OwDuOs" data-time="

Ohh, I don't think I ever explained Buttercream, did I? She's a supporting character from Hasbro's shortlived Littlest Pet Shop series that ran on The Hub (a great network that died too soon); her gimmick is basically being too hyperactive and spouting a long string of gibberish that no one understands. Whenever anyones says "What?", she does...whatever that is and gives an exagerated slow-motion Aaaanywhoo... before restating things in a way that people can understand.

I really relate to that and have a tendency to use that video whenever I know I've gone way off subject or started rambling in a way that no one's going to get. Like that earlierr wall of text! Or...this one where I just discussed at length why I relate to a bunny from a discontinued cartoon during a write-up for...whatever that video I was supposed to be ranking was.

...

Right, right! Aaanywho, point is, I didn't like that video and substituted a Spotify link when listening to it again as I did for Lady Fantasy. It's a fairly nice 70s inspired song when there's not all the blood and screaming.

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#207 [TIE] [#281]

Name: I'll Remember You
Source: I'll Remember You RealSPiKA/Megumi Sasaka
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QztNIWQOsuQ" data-time="

Nominator: NFUN (6/15)

(5.3, 1, 5.5)

[A significant improvement over the original, though still not amazing.]

I'm not entirely sure what happened on that second listen, but I apparently really didn't want to hear this at all at the time. Thankfully, second impressions don't count for anything and I'm back to kinda liking it? I still don't think it manages to be more than a fairly standard anime song, but "average anime song" is still decent.

[LATER EDIT: Well average anime songs that don't give me a headache are still decent at any rate...]

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#207 [TIE] [#149]:

Name: I'll Remember You
Source: Sen no Kiseki II
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg_i3Ra-j-0" data-time="

Nominator: NFUN (5/15)

(2, 6, 5.5)

[I won't.]

...So the first version of me hated the original but liked the remix; the second felt the exact opposite; and I have no idea what they're talking about as I find no appreciable difference in quality between the two at all.

......this scenario is so stupid, I'm just going to move on to the next song without wasting any further time dwelling on it.

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I'm back to prefering the remix, but the difference isn't drastic enough for me to move it up any.
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IMA
Wakare no toki
Hateshinai yukusaki ni bokura yakusoku wo kawasou
Tatoe mou nido to aenai toshite mo
I'll Remember You
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#206 [#275]:

Name: Maybe it was Fated
Origin: Sora no Kiseki Vocal
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miUoHyToOrY" data-time="

Nominator: NFUN (4/15)

(3.5, 1, 5.6)

[I expected better lyrics for this song.]

The only translation I can find has a good line in the second verse:

Even if surely cant come true
Ill prefer to erase everything

A song from the perspective of an omnicidal villain that's going to delete existence itself would be nice. The rest of the song doesn't live up to that and I don't think the singer or band could deliver on such a song even if they wanted to, but the images that verse conjure up make the song worthy of at least a slightly above average score.

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#205 [#274]:

Name: Disco
Origin: KORG DSN-12 for Nintendo 3DS (Demo Song)
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpq3FpKPX68" data-time="

Nominator: cakophon (7/15)

(4, 1, 4 [later upgraded to a 5; then further upgraded to a 6 after the rankings started])

[The comments are right, this does feel a lot like "Get Down on It", to a point that this feels very familiar even though I've never heard it before. It's not bad, but not great either.]

Of course I had to use rave.dj to combine the two songs:

https://rave.dj/EZkHq1rb3M9GNg

It actually kinda works. At times. Occasionally.

Anyway, this does just feel like a synthesizer remix of a song I've heard a thousand times, which is kinda interesting? But not quite interesting enough, I suppose. The song is trapped in an odd "too new for a nostalgia boost, too familiar to count as a new experience" void.

[Final Thoughts: This is one of the first songs that was moved up the list after the topic started. It was in 248th Place, but that was obviously way too low and the song held on for quite a way before dropping.

While I do enjoy this song and the fact that it feels like a very computerized take on a 70s classic, for the first time ever, I think I prefer my rave.dj mash-up over either of the actual songs used on it. The trippy video and addition of lyrics improve on Disco, whereas the computerization improves "Get Down on It". I'm not going to say the resulting combination is perfect or anything, but it's something I've gone back to listen to for fun a few times already--more than can be said about any of my other attempts to mess with that site.]

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#204 [#193]:

Name: Converted Silence
Origin: Yume 2kki
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiUUDzxxzKQ" data-time="

Nominator: cakophon (6/15)

(6, 5, 6)

[It has its ups and downs.]

It definitely does things I like by using some unusual sounds to create the music, but I don't like the section with the laughter (I'm sure it wants to be creepy, and may even be so in context, but here it's just mildly annoying) and the song never seems to take things as far as it could.

[Final Thoughts: It's unique enough that I can't believe I thought of giving it less than a 6, but like I said, it never pushes things to their limit.]

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#203 [#276]:

Name: Blue Destination
Source: Sen no Kiseki II
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Goj8hyy_L0M" data-time="

Nominator: NFUN (3/15)

(1, 1, 3 [upgraded to a 6 after the ranking had started])

[Bored now.]

First off, this song title always makes me think of "Crystal Blue Persuasion":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDl8ZPm3GrU" data-time="

I actually really like that song. It doesn't seem like my thing, but like last topic's song from Jesus Christ Superstar, it fits as a Christian Rock song that I get into. The fact that the lyrics were vague enough a lot of people thought it was about drugs and it's more a call for unity & brotherhood than making too many religious references probably helped.

I think I like that song better without the music video. Video is too disjointed and borderline seizure enducing. Too much pulsating and flashing; I mean, I get what they were going for, but I just don't think it really helps the song at all or manages to be interesting enough to hold up on its own merits.



That all has nothing to do with the song I'm supposed to be writing about, but I really don't have anything to say about it.

[Final Notes: Another of the songs to be moved up at the last minute. This one started at 269th Place.

This song was the most unfairly hit by the tedium of all these similar songs hitting in a row, as I couldn't even find the energy to pretend I wasn't bored on the first pass through--or the second for that matter. It's only now with a bit of distance from its counterparts that I can have any appreciation for the song--and it's actually pretty neat. It was the first song to be moved up the list, since as soon as I played it to try to find any Final Thoughts here, I knew there was no way I could justify eliminating it then.

Unfortunately, an additional 66 spaces are all I really feel like giving it. It's a significant increase, but just barely not enough to escape the bottom 100.]

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#202 [#127]

Name: Funkle Phil
Origin: Bear Ghost
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4BMQjcu5Fg" data-time="

Nominator: NBIceman (13/15)

(5, 6.5, 6)

[Different and good, but the second verse kinda turned me against the song.]

After someone pointed out that the second verse uses a lot of Fresh Prince episode titles for its lyrics, it got a pretty large boost for the novelty and because it was so unexpected it made me laugh; I've kinda cooled on the song a bit, though I still enjoy it more than I did the first time I heard it.

[Final Thoughts: It is novel and interesting enough that I may regret this elimination later on.]

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#201 [#152]:

Name: Fateful Confrontation
Origin: Sora no Kiseki Zanmai
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L35xvwFANFc" data-time="

Nominator: NFUN (2/15)

(2, 6, 3 [upgraded to a 6 after the rankings started])

[I missed this song the first time. With so many songs with the same name, I was bound to just scroll past one without noticing it eventually. I suppose that means Im at 301 nominations? Oh well.

Song is alright, I suppose? Not something I'm looking for now.]

Feels like waiting room music, created to be as generic and non-threatening as possible as you sit and wait for whatever.

Could also see it as part of a multiplayer game's waiting room, like the little training you can do in Smash Bros. while waiting for a match to start.

...Also it kind of reminds me of Burger King. I don't know if every store has started it, but at least one local store plays quiet, instrumental versions of pop songs for background noise & this feels like their type of arrangement. This song is all the fun of sitting in a rundown Burger King waiting for food, only without the food. 0/10 would not eat at NFUN's House of Falcom again.

[Also goes without repeating, but obviously there are just 300 songs. I had handsomeboy's Tat Ming Pair song about driving on my list twice. Things have since been fixed.]

[Final Thoughts: Another song that was moved up. This one started at 268th Place, almost tied with "Blue Destination".

I find myself enjoying the chill vibe this song has going for it, though apparently not as much as I did on the second listen--this song moved up over 60 spaces from where I planned on eliminating it and still didn't come close to its placement on the Beta List.]

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Red Plasman & Green NFUN need food badly!

...I dunno why a Gauntlet reference for the near elimination update today, nor why those colors. Plasman is obviously red and NFUN is obviously Green--a capital Green at that, as it feels really weird if I try to force myself to type it in lowercase.



And that elimination gets us out of the bottom 100. It would be a good place for an update, but I didn't bother preparing one. </.<
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Nice. I was already pleasantly surprised to see my first song go out after over 40 songs in, but for it to be the only one in the bottom hundred (even knowing how much it is flooded with NFUN's pick) is a surprise. Especially factoring in the fact I was really close to picking another song that apparently would've been outside the bottom hundred too

Judging from the comments on it, i guess it's very safe to say I won't be that safe for that much longer, but hey. Still pretty happy all things considered.

Props to those who managed to achieve likewise, especially raka like damn.

10/15 left so Id say I did ok. Definitely better than last time.
All my eliminated songs so far are instrumental, and I only have one remaining, bet it will be gone next.

12/15 still alive a third of the way through ain't bad. Not doing quite as well as I did on the first list but I'll take it.
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handsomeboy2012 posted...

All my eliminated songs so far are instrumental, and I only have one remaining, bet it will be gone next.

I personally wouldn't count Endless Nine as an instrumental. Microsoft Sam vocals are still vocals, at least to me.
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Fluttershy_Pony posted...

Of course I had to use rave.dj to combine the two songs:

https://rave.dj/EZkHq1rb3M9GNg

It actually kinda works. At times. Occasionally.

this is pretty good
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Fluttershy_Pony posted...

I personally wouldn't count Endless Nine as an instrumental. Microsoft Sam vocals are still vocals, at least to me.

Well I figured it is more similar to my eliminated songs than the rest. And its VGM

Bottom one then none in the bottom 100.
Nice lol. If it weren't for that song I might've done really well. But I didn't regret it, 10 songs is a lot and I wanted some variety.
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cakophon posted...

Fluttershy_Pony posted...

Of course I had to use rave.dj to combine the two songs:

https://rave.dj/EZkHq1rb3M9GNg

It actually kinda works. At times. Occasionally.

this is pretty good

Thanks! I'm pretty happy with how it turned out.

handsomeboy2012 posted...

Fluttershy_Pony posted...

I personally wouldn't count Endless Nine as an instrumental. Microsoft Sam vocals are still vocals, at least to me.

Well I figured it is more similar to my eliminated songs than the rest. And its VGM

Fair enough and I'm not trying to confirm or deny any future placements. I just can't resist a chance to defend synthesized voices.
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Raka_Putra posted...

Bottom one then none in the bottom 100.
Nice lol. If it weren't for that song I might've done really well. But I didn't regret it, 10 songs is a lot and I wanted some variety.

Nothing to regret. As I said, "I like what I don't like". It would be quite a dull topic without anything outside my comfort zone and I've been known to actively listen to things I dislike at times. I haven't done it in years, but I used to burn entire discs of songs I wasn't fond of & try to run them in Vib-Ribbon's marathon mode (whatever it was called). Don't think I ever managed to clear an entire CD, though it was always an interesting challenge.

For what it's worth, Candyman is the perfect song for something like that. Short enough that its level wouldn't be tedious and the changes in tempo would probably suit a rhythm game quite well, be somewhat interesting to see how a game created a level based on it. To that end, I'd say Candman is the equivalent of "My Humps"--God, I hate that song, but I've probably listened to it a dozen times or so... to try to see what I'm missing in it (no clue), to develop an appreciation for something different (still hate it), or to see how various games work with it (in no ways worth remembering).

...This sounded more inspirational or reassuring in my head before I started typing it.
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Haha, I get what you mean. Candyman does seem like a good fit for a rhythm game. I did a cursory search and there was none yet, unfortunately.

Aah, Vib-Ribbon. I haven't tried it but I did enjoy games that let you use your own songs like Audio Surf and Beatmania.
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Took me a while to realize what was going on with the nfun and I comment, lol. not sure how good a "strategy" of just nomming 2 is lol but I'm glad at least one of em is still kicking

~~Ironic that I'd be Red given that green is my favourite colour lol~~

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#200 [#224]:

Name: True Blue
Origin: Mark Ronson (feat. Angel Olsen)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMeqmdDGFf8" data-time="

Nominator: mcflubbin (6/10)

(5.5, 4, 6-ish)

[That intro got me really excited, but the actual song was almost depressingly normal.]

I suppose "sad disco" isn't actually that normal? Or is it? I've never questioned how many sad dance songs would play at a roller disco...

Kupo, kupo, kupo, kuppo, kuupo, kupo, kuopo~po.

Wish the entire song was more like the intro though. That was great. Rest of the song is...probably the only song I've heard in the sad disco genre, so I have nothing to compare it to.

[Final Notes: I still haven't entirely decided how I feel about it. Sad Roller Disco is an interesting concept and the distorted opening is fantastic, but I never fully connect with the song. It's like I both want it higher than this, but also almost wanted to move it further down. It's confusing]

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#199 [#89]

Name: Seven Years
Origin: Dwight Spitz [Count Bass D]
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upma5iEuSPM" data-time="

Nominator: Flamander/Glacier (5/15)

(6, 7, 6)

[I still have very little experience with rap/hip hop and enjoy the chance to hear something from a new artist, to try and expand my limited knowledge... but I have no reaction to the lyrics which is going to limit how far it can go.]

The song is fine and it's probably the most wholesome song on the list (devoted husband vows to support his wife and children), but it's not something that can resonate with me.

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#198 [#253]:

Name: Up in My Jam (All of A Sudden)
Origin: Kubbi - Gas Powered EP
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DB6hBRPsWc" data-time="

Nominator: Plasman (1/2)

(6, 3, 6)

[Dont have anything to say, but I think I generally liked it.]

It's probably just because the description mentioned Adventure Time, but now I can only associate this song with BMO. I imagine a BMO episode that ends with Finn saying, "Wow, sometimes, you're really cool, BMO."

BMO throws on a pair of shades and says "BMO knows this.". Then we get a special credits sequence, as BMO dances across the land to this song, giving fingergun motions to everyone he meets.

It's not the most entertaining dream sequence a song has given me, but it's something.

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Plasman shot the food.

In Memorium

Lowest Ranked Song: Justice Justice (280th Place)
Highest Ranked Song: Up in My Jam (198th Place)

It's also not a surprise that the only participant with two entrants was the second one to fall. Unfortunately, with only two nominations, I didn't get much of a feel for you or your type of songs, so I find it rather difficult to find anything to say here. Thanks for trying?



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#197 [#270]:

Name: Rock'n Rocks
Origin: Tenpei Sato
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD9Vho0SVCU" data-time="

Nominator: IhatethisCPU (8/10)

(5, 2, 5.3 [upgraded to 6 after the topic started])

[I wasnt expecting a Soul Nomad reference. Enjoyed the game, not as wild about the soundtrack. Its certainly not bad, but nothing Im raving over.]

Soul Nomad was great. It wasn't perfect (nothing by NIS is), but I've played through it multiple times and always enjoyed it. This actually makes me want to go through it again, it has been a couple years...

...though I don't think a certain character's plot twist will ever make sense, no matter how many times I play it.

Song is better than I recalled. I really wasn't a fan after the second listen, but (like so many songs) it really didn't deserve the abysmal score I was giving it.

[Final Thoughts: This song got a minor upgrade in placement, though I don't have any notes on this phone about how many.

The harder rock sound lets this track stand out from the other VGM and I almost regret this elimination, but I think there's a notable jump in song quality coming up and the last cut of the night is going to be particularly painful.]

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Soul Nomad was my introduction to NIS as a whole, I'll always have a soft spot for it and.... most of it's characters. And yeah, *yeaaaah*, definitely not a perfect game, but always worth replaying. ...Although that path is *still* one of the most hecked up things I've ever seen in a game, all in all.

...Going to haveta admit, a bit surprised by at least two of my noms still being in. Happy about it, but *surprised*. ^_^
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#196 [#145]:

Name: Don't you tell ME
Origin: BAND-MAID

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGXzhxXVimY" data-time="

Nominator: Murphiroth (10/15)

(4, 6, 6)

[I like the video and the idea of the band, but the chorus is too repetitive and the lyrics dont do much for me.]

It's better than I originally thought and I rather like how comically dark the first line seems to translate as:

Whether youre clean or dirty, if we peel your skin off its still the same

I also think I like the general energy of the song, but then you have idiocy like "give me give me give me hey joy!" and the general repetitiveness that doesn't do enough to differentiate itself from random j-metal songs... it's just kinda mid-tier-ish.

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#195 [#104]:

Name: Prologue/Little Shop of Horrors
Origin: Little Shop of Horrors
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4ADCCr_N4s" data-time="

Nominator: Raka (14/15)

(6.5, 7, 6)

[Its fun and a decent introduction, but by necessity, it ends before anything actually happens. It does make me interested in hearing a song from later in the show, which is all a prologue needs to accomplish, but I dont know that it works well entirely on its own like this.]

That's basically it. The sixties inspired music quickly tells you when the show is set and the tone of the lyrics immediately sets the genre at "comedy horror", but nothing actually happens during the song itself. I know you can't kill anyone or do anything during a prologue, but it keeps the song from standing on its own merits.

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#194 [#183]:

Name: Pumped Up Kicks
Origin: Foster the People
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDTZ7iX4vTQ" data-time="

Nominator: Raka (13/15)

(5.5, 5.2, 6)

[I feel like youre trying to test me with this one. If I put a school shooting song too high, it paints me as a psychopath; if I put it too low, then Im pathetic and too easily upset.]

Still not entirely sure what kind of response you were hoping to get out of this one; song is catchy enough that it gets stuck in my head on a regular basis (something I'm honestly not too happy about) and the song was everywhere for so long that I'm sure everyone has heard it enough times to have made up their minds on if they like it. I can't possibly have anything new to add to a song this well known.

...Also, I can't recall what show it was (I think The Voice, but it could have been American Idol or America's Got Talent, or possibly even all of the above) but the production team played this song to celebrate someone moving through to the next round. It was like "CONGRATULATIONS!" and then this started playing in the background. It was creepy.

...Like if a studio selects a song about school shootings as your victory theme, I think you should be allowed to sue them.

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#193 [#271 {TIE}]:

Name: Crimson Cloud
Origin: Devil May Cry 5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51_1zQg2k6s" data-time="

Nominator: Murphiroth (9/15)

(1, 1, 5.4 [upgraded to 6 after the topic started])

[I see why Devil Trigger is the only song from the soundtrack that anyone ever mentions. <./<

...okay, that was needlessly cruel, but I dislike this singer and dont know enough about V (or DMC in general after the second game) to get anything out of the lyrics.]

Ehh... not the most impressive or objectively good song on the list, but it is loud and angry and something I want to listen to right now.

[Final Thoughts: I wish I had a better justification for putting this song so high on the list besides "it is loud and angry without being vulgar", but it is what it is.

I think this is one of the songs that most improved between my first and final listens. I kinda hated this at first, mellowed to a general "not my thing" stance at the second, and up to actually liking it by the third.]

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It's not Devil Trigger because that song is truly a one of a kind classic but Crimson Cloud is very good

Wish they had picked a better unclean vocalist band to do Subhuman but it worked out ok in the end
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I don't see how liking Pumped Up Kicks makes you a psychopath or anything, since it's a very anti-school shooting song.

Still FtP has way, way better stuff regardless!

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yea Pumped Up Kicks was made to bring awareness to like mental health issues and talk about school shootings in an active way in hopes of ending them
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True, but I imagine you could find people who love the song because they enjoy imagining themselves as the shooter... also, it wasn't that long ago that one RI'er was arrested for attempting a mass shooting and she was obsessed with the Columbine shootings. I may not have interacted with her often, but I was on the same board as her for years... and once you realize how many people worship these shooters and that people like that are all around you, it makes songs like that incredibly awkward to listen to.
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I'm probably going to throw off my rankings by changing the numbers, but I feel there's a notable jump in quality starting at this point. So I'm jumping the scores of these two songs (and the songs to still come after this that only had 6 points) up to 6.5

...That may confuse things when I hit songs that I had given 6.5s to in the future, but we'll deal with that when we get to that point.

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#191 [TIE] [#159]:

Name: False Memory Archive
Origin: Oak
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TfxZd7hekA" data-time="

Nominator: NBIceman (12/15)

(4, 6, 6.5)

[One of several songs I have no reaction to at all, Im afraid.]

I want to love this. It has one of the best song titles in history, I really like the singer's voice--he reminds me of a young Gordon Lightfoot for some reason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5tr_L31StI" data-time="

You know that ghost is me.
And I will never be set free
As long as I'm a ghost that you can't see.

Great line, even if I can't find a logical reason to bring it up. I'm probably the only one who inexplicably finds a connection between the singers' voices anyway.



Aaanywho, this guy has a great voice. Good band. I just never seem to connect with any of the lyrics--I'm trying, I just listened to this five times in a row practically begging the song to give me SOMETHING I can use to justify giving this a very high score too, but I still have no emotional connection to it. Which is unfortunate because I really, really want to love this--it's a modern progressive rock band fronted by someone that could be Gordon Lightfoot's successor if he wanted to be, singing a song with an amazing title!!--but...no.

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#191 [TIE] [#107]:

Name: Ragamuffin Man
Origin: The Reivers
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdivwUha5P8" data-time="

Nominator: Snake (11/15)

(5, 7, 6.5)

[These stomping grounds in this magic land are soon to leave us if you know what I mean.

...I dont.]

This song is bothering me because it's reminding me so much of a different song, but I can't recall enough of the other song to find it. It's that guitar sequence that starts five seconds in and repeats throughout almost the entire song; I swear there's a different song with a female singer going "ahh" for those exact notes (ah ah ah, ah-ah-ah ah-ah-ah) but my searches aren't getting anywhere. Turns out there are a lot of songs with "ah" in them and none of the ones anyone talks about follow that note sequence.

Song is fine, feels more 70s than 80s to me, like this song would have felt retro even when it was new, which is fine. I just can't focus on it right now.

[Final Thoughts: I'm still bothered by the fact that I can't tell if the song I can hear in my head actually exists or not.

Good song though! I do like it, though I never fully connect with it. I decided to have it tie with False Memory Archive at the literal last possible moment here because I find my thoughts on the songs to be awfully similar; good songs, good singer, somehow both familiar and new at the same time, but...not something I'm in love with, as much as I want to be.]

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Finally got around to trying to look up songs by Shiori Ueno. Unfortunately, I couldn't find much--my brief search only led to three games: Trouble Outsiders (which I'm reasonably aware of since that's what started this conversation) a Slayers game, and "His Name is Diamond". The few songs I tried were alright--still like the PC-98's sound--but nothing great enough that it'd be worth posting.

Not that he might not have some other great songs out there, but if they exist, they're a bit harder to find than anticipated.
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Fluttershy_Pony posted...

Finally got around to trying to look up songs by Shiori Ueno. Unfortunately, I couldn't find much--my brief search only led to three games: Trouble Outsiders (which I'm reasonably aware of since that's what started this conversation) a Slayers game, and "His Name is Diamond". The few songs I tried were alright--still like the PC-98's sound--but nothing great enough that it'd be worth posting.

Not that he might not have some other great songs out there, but if they exist, they're a bit harder to find than anticipated.

How could you fail to notice Beast Breeders and Cattle Mutilation?!

UF8 posted...

Fluttershy_Pony posted...

Finally got around to trying to look up songs by Shiori Ueno. Unfortunately, I couldn't find much--my brief search only led to three games: Trouble Outsiders (which I'm reasonably aware of since that's what started this conversation) a Slayers game, and "His Name is Diamond". The few songs I tried were alright--still like the PC-98's sound--but nothing great enough that it'd be worth posting.

Not that he might not have some other great songs out there, but if they exist, they're a bit harder to find than anticipated.

How could you fail to notice Beast Breeders and Cattle Mutilation?!

I wasn't having any luck on Google or YouTube--after those three games it would always switch to just giving results for any VGM, regardless of composer.

Got any links?
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Fluttershy_Pony posted...

UF8 posted...

Fluttershy_Pony posted...

Finally got around to trying to look up songs by Shiori Ueno. Unfortunately, I couldn't find much--my brief search only led to three games: Trouble Outsiders (which I'm reasonably aware of since that's what started this conversation) a Slayers game, and "His Name is Diamond". The few songs I tried were alright--still like the PC-98's sound--but nothing great enough that it'd be worth posting.

Not that he might not have some other great songs out there, but if they exist, they're a bit harder to find than anticipated.

How could you fail to notice Beast Breeders and Cattle Mutilation?!

I wasn't having any luck on Google or YouTube--after those three games it would always switch to just giving results for any VGM, regardless of composer.

Got any links?

http://snesmusic.org/hoot/v2/?system=PC-98&order=ppl&page=46 (you need something like Hoot to play them though)

UF8 posted...

Fluttershy_Pony posted...

UF8 posted...

Fluttershy_Pony posted...

Finally got around to trying to look up songs by Shiori Ueno. Unfortunately, I couldn't find much--my brief search only led to three games: Trouble Outsiders (which I'm reasonably aware of since that's what started this conversation) a Slayers game, and "His Name is Diamond". The few songs I tried were alright--still like the PC-98's sound--but nothing great enough that it'd be worth posting.

Not that he might not have some other great songs out there, but if they exist, they're a bit harder to find than anticipated.

How could you fail to notice Beast Breeders and Cattle Mutilation?!

I wasn't having any luck on Google or YouTube--after those three games it would always switch to just giving results for any VGM, regardless of composer.

Got any links?

http://snesmusic.org/hoot/v2/?system=PC-98&order=ppl&page=46 (you need something like Hoot to play them though)

Thank you, I'll try to work something out to look at them tomorrow evening.
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Fluttershy_Pony posted...

Its fun and a decent introduction, but by necessity, it ends before anything actually happens. It does make me interested in hearing a song from later in the show, which is all a prologue needs to accomplish, but I dont know that it works well entirely on its own like this.

Fair enough. I do like the beat and instrumentation on their own though.

Fluttershy_Pony posted...

Still not entirely sure what kind of response you were hoping to get out of this one

I wasn't trying to play mind games lol
It's just a song I like!
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Fluttershy_Pony posted...

True, but I imagine you could find people who love the song because they enjoy imagining themselves as the shooter...

i mean, to me that's like saying take me to church isn't good because "some bigots like it because it's about homophobia." or strange fruit isn't good because "some racists like it because it's about the lynchings of black americans."

not saying you have to like pumped up kicks but your reasoning for not liking it is kinda weird imho.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

not saying you have to like pumped up kicks but your reasoning for not liking it is kinda weird imho.

I agree, but I wouldn't say I disliked it: if 5 is intended to be average, then 6 is good--just not great. Don't forget that False Memory Archive was only a few places above it and I had a lot of praise for that (still love the singer's voice).

If you want a song I actively disliked due to subject matter, you need only look back to Teacher, Teacher from the start of the topic. It's certainly not glorifying religious schools and beating students, but there are days where I just do not want to deal with the memories or subject matter. It's a fine song, but it's held back because I don't think I'll ever voluntarily listen to it (at one point dropping to a less than 0 score because I just couldn't stand to deal with it that day).

Pumped Up Kicks meanwhile never had a score that was any less than "above average", eventually ending an entire step above the average score. It's rare for songs with that sort of topic to get that far; it's also rare for songs I find omnipresent to get incredibly high scores (see: NBIceman's first eliminated song last topic being one cut for being something I already loved too much; Highway Jones being cut in part because it feels too much like the stuff I already listen to in spite of being new). That the song has so much going against it and still got "notably above average" score says a lot about it and the general quality.
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#190 [#91]

Name: Dschinghis Khan
Origin: Dschinghis Khan
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2bvPzvFlP8" data-time="

Nominator: paulg (9/15)

(7, 7, 6.5)

[Amusing.]

It's funny, incredibly 70s, and features a chorus so simple that you could sing along with it without even knowing what language is being spoken. I just don't know that "disco pop song about Genghis Khan" is funny enough to listen to on a regular basis; it was hilarious at first, but the novelty is already wearing a bit thin.

[Final Thoughts: Not much to add. High quality novelty song, but most novelty songs don't hold up to repeated listens like this topic demanded. Definitely would have done much better judged only a first impression.]

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Funny that I initially considered nominating another song by Dechinghis Khan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvS351QKFV4" data-time="

I'll look at that song later; for now, one more song.

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#189 [#122]:

Name: Gee Officer Krupke
Origin: West Side Story
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7TT4jnnWys" data-time="

Nominator: Underleveled/darkx (5/7)

(*scores have been redacted*)

[*comments redacted*]

*original write-up redacted*

Congratulations! This is the first nomination this topic to have everything completely erased!

The Good

The lead actor's performance, complete with flips, is very impressive. Especially since I'm told it was quite painful jumping onto concrete repeatedly for stunts like these. He really hurt himself, right? At least, I seem to recall having read that.

Good choregraphy, with a lot of background details that are unlikely to be noticed the first time.

Vocals aren't the best I've heard, but they're good for a comedy song.

Choosing the comedy song is usually the safest option when picking something for me.

The Less Good

The jokes are hit-and-miss. The ones that land are pretty great, but I could personally live without the entire psychologist bit.

While doing research I learned there was an Animaniacs parody of West Side Story and tried watching it, so I might find something amusing to discuss for this write-up; that was a pointless waste of time and while I can't blame you, I kinda want to blame you anyway.

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Fluttershy_Pony posted...

If you want a song I actively disliked due to subject matter, you need only look back to Teacher, Teacher from the start of the topic. It's certainly not glorifying religious schools and beating students, but there are days where I just do not want to deal with the memories or subject matter.

yeah, but in the teacher, teacher writeup you just said "this subject matter is way too unpleasant for me to enjoy the song." that's totally fair. you didn't say "a flaw of the song is that some religious fanatics may like it for talking about religious teachers beating students."

i don't really care what score you gave pumped up kicks or to what degree you liked the song (i don't love it myself, though i do think it's pretty good) but the "it loses points because some people may like it for the wrong reasons" argument just bugged me a bit for some reason.
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handsomeboy2012 posted...

Funny that I initially considered nominating another song by Dechinghis Khan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvS351QKFV4" data-time="

Not entirely sure what to make of the song. A German band, dressed as Mongolians, singing about Russia is certainly...unique, but I was so unprepared for it that it kinda fried my brain slightly.



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#188 [#123]

Name: Battle! H ~Dead by UNKNOWN~
Origin: SanctuaryRPG
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evtGkkHP7Qc" data-time="

Nominator: DireKrow (10/15)

(6.5, 6.5, 6.5)

[It's a good song, but not bringing anything to mind.]

I still don't think of anything when hearing this song. It's an above average piece of VGM to be sure, but I don't feel anything from it nor does it remind me of anything.

Game seems slightly interesting? I don't usually bother with roguelikes, computer RPGs, or RPGs as retro as this one, but it seems like it might be interesting anyway.

[Final Thoughts: Another song that I really want to love, as I can recognize it as great, but I still don't really connect with--no matter how many times I try.]

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#187 [#192]:

Name: Blue Suede
Origin: Vince Staples
Link: https://open.spotify.com/track/6w6SW8zyEcyxwSR7Wya45a?si=_R-FxzWARiSK0t2Pjg9vYQ

Nominator: Bane (13/15)

(6, 5, 6.5)

[Again, a bit more explicit than Id like, but I need to listen to more variety in music and this is a good opportunity to try understanding something different. A good nomination and experience, even if Im not thrilled with the song itself. (Extra point for the Shawn Michaels reference though).]

Honestly can't think of anything I'd like to add to that.

[Final Thoughts: I find it slightly amusing that Genius can't decide if Vince is being serious or not with this song:

Theres been much speculation as to whether this song is an extended metaphor of the hood life, a mockery of fake rappers that portray that image, or Vince just being Vince.

Makes me a feel a bit better if even his fans can't tell if this song is being serious or not.

Kinda wish I'd gotten around to playing MK11 before this topic. Apparently this song plays in one of the cooler cutscenes? That would be neat and offer some other topics to discuss, but I'm waiting to see if there's an almost inevitable Komplete Edition with the other characters included before I get into the game.

...also I suppose I didn't discuss Black Panther last topic even with a nomination from that film's soundtrack, so perhaps I don't often get into discussing other media the songs have appeared in and wouldn't have brought it up anyway?

......Errr, it was last topic that had the rap song from the Black Panther soundtrack, right? I don't think it was one of the songs yet to come from this topic... and looking at the list of songs on the soundtrack album, I don't recognize any of the names, which is leaving me to question if the song ever existed in the first place.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

"it loses points because some people may like it for the wrong reasons"

Who said anything about removing points from it? Again, the score actively increased (final placement went down slightly, but that was a side-effect of so many other songs being moved up and had absolutely nothing to do with the song itself).

I'll apologize for phrasing things incredibly poorly, but I assure you, that had no effect on the placement. At least, not on any conscious or intentional level.
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but you did point it out as a flaw in the song, right?

you didn't give the song a 10 so obviously you don't think it's perfect, and you said "some people may love the song because they enjoy imagining themselves as the shooter," which... doesn't seem like one of the reasons you liked the song. like, if you didn't mean to say it's a flaw i'm totally confused why you said that.
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Ooooooo I was wondering when Vince would drop for you, not too bad of a placement all things considered. And yes Vince is indeed one of a kind, if you ever watch any interviews or see his Twitter he is quite the character.
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I didn't point it out as a flaw of the song, no. I wouldn't even say that was directly related to the song, nor were the Inititial Thoughts for that matter.

I can't find any non-stupid ways to phrase any of this, so again, my full apologies.

ONE

My first reaction to having to come up with a write-up for the song is paranoia. I'm concerned about all the ways it can go wrong; if the final placement is too low, then I'm concerned that I'll look like a prude or someone who is unable to enjoy anything dealing with serious subject matters.

[I'll note that you're also not accusing me of giving the song too high of a placement out of that fear, in spite of that being listed as an equal concern.]

On the other hand, I don't want to have to deal with liking the song either. It's hard to justify liking a song about school shootings without also having to explain that you don't like the fact that it's about the shootings, and then it's all...ugh. "Yes, I like the song; No, I don't like that part of the song; Yes, I like villain songs, but preferably more cartoon-y than this; Yes, I know they're not glorifying mass shootings, I am capable of separating the fact that creating a work of art dealing with crime does not mean endorsing that crime, thank you."

Then you get into the fact that I was on a board with an (attempted) mass shooter for years and that she'd probably enjoy this song what with her obsession with slaughtering children for fun and the general discomfort associated with that, and...uggghhhhhh....

That was barely relevant to the song. That was about how much everything about the write-up was going to completely suck and that I didn't want to do it.

...Basically you could, and should, interpret my initial thoughts as "I like this song, but I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE how the conversations about this are going to go, and they are an inevitability no matter where this ultimately places on the list". It was meant to be a self-deprecating joke about my worries and paranoia, not a serious commentary on...anything.

Did I word it well? No. I'll even accept full responsibility for this going in the direction I knew it would--self-fulfilling prophecies and what not.

2:

By the actual write-up, I've basically gotten over everything. Song's good, but not great. It's overused, I don't like the fact that I know it so well that I never needed to even click the song link to decide how I felt about the song, I don't like the fact that the media seems to portray it as a generic dance song (or possibly even a happy celebration song at times), I don't like the subject matter, but it's catchy and I do like it.

3:

Snake (and Bane, but I wouldn't see his post until after I'd made mine) tries to offer assurances that no one would think anything about me liking the song.

4:

I try to justify my paranoia about the write-up (again, let me stress we're only talking about the write-up and the inevitable responses to it, not the song itself) by pointing out that I (kinda) knew a (attempted) mass shooter and don't like having to take all the requisite steps to distance myself from her in what was supposed to be a fun topic.

Again, not having to do with the song--only the initial thoughts and why I dreaded how the write-up was going to go.

5:

You, somewhat justifiably, assume parts 1 & 4 had an impact on placement; they didn't. 1 was a bit of a joke about how horrible the conversation we're having right now was going to be (which, due to terrible wording, did not come off as the least bit funny--or even seeming like it was meant to be a joke, I'll concede); 4 was...stupid in every possible meaning of that word.
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#186 [#143]:

Name: Kill The Power
Origin: Skindred
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSFnygzsLnk" data-time="

Nominator: Murphiroth (8/15)

(6?, 6, 6.5)

[PROS: Highly unique, infectiously catchy, Resident Evil reference, I actually like being given the censored version.

CONS: That one line makes me want to throw the song in the trash. Probably going to end up at a 6, though I could see myself moving it significantly in either direction. It shall depend entirely on how I feel that day.]

This, perhaps ironically, turned out to be one of the most consistent songs on the list, as I always have the same reaction to it. I love how unique the sound is. As someone on YouTube jokingly put it:

"Hip-hop, heavy metal, reggae, pop, dubstep, and even some symphonic elements. It's... it's... Heavy-hip reggal popstep."

The chorus is instantly memorable and stuck in my head and it's generally a very well made song. I just have a very low tolerance for lyrics that come off homophobic and as soon as we got to that line about salt boy, this song...

And before you attack me for overreacting, I have nothing against the singer personally. Actually, he seems like a really cool dude--I love that there's an interview where he declares that he has no guilty pleasures because he's not ashamed of anything and that he could go to a gym wearing a Downton Abbey shirt if he wanted, because he doesn't care what anyone thinks. He's just so comfortable with himself and comes off so cool that I'm a little envious. I might even try looking into some of their other songs eventually because I'm not going to condemn them over one line of one song.

...but I'm also not going to give an outstanding score to the song with a line like that either.

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#185 [#68]:

Name: Playing With The Big Boys
Origin: Cover By Johnathan Young (Prince Of Egypt)
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqlNY5iX-nA" data-time="

Nominator: paulg (12/15)

(9, 8, 5.1 [upgraded to 6.5])

[Hey, its this guy again! Another running gag--I like cartoon songs and villain songs, but the closest I get to such a nomination are covers by Jonathan Young. Unlike his rendition of Hellfire from last topic, this is an improvement over the original.]

Well there actually were some cartoon songs nominated eventually this time, but this remained the closest to an Animated Villain song*. This is Jonathan Blow at his finest (I did check out a few of his other songs after the last topic ended) and a tremendous improvement over the original, making it darker and more impressive.

...Unfortunately, I'm just not feeling this song tonight for some reason.

[Final Thoughts: *Not sure I'd personally count it as it's a medley of all the songs, but Moana Medley contains part of a cartoon villain song. So that's another villain song, if you want to include it, even though that's just one small part of the entire track.

Anyway... this song did get a decent jump from where I was originally going to eliminate it. I don't have my notes for where it used to be, but this was one of the five songs that was rising through the ranks (the two Trails of Songs I had underranked, Disco, this song, and one more that hasn't dropped just yet). It never returned to its former glory near the top of the list, but it made a respectable recovery none-the-less.]

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I got Hoot working and tried a few soundtracks out! Nothing super amazing, but I like the intro to Mutilated City (first song from Cattle Mutilation). Has a nice, ominous, sci-fi type sound when it starts. Thanks again!
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#184 [#103]

Name: With My Mind
Origin: Psi-Ops: The Mindgate Conspiracy
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Mgu7Sg6T4" data-time="

Nominator: Shonen_Bat (7/8)

(7, 7, 6.5)

[It starts off very strongan underrated game that I havent thought about in years, lyrics that are as close as Im getting to a revenge song in this batch of nominations, super powersbut Id like another verse instead of repeating the chorus three times at the end. Its short enough that even I cant call it repetitive, but it could still use some more variety.]

Not in a psychic powers mood right now, I still want one more verse, and I'm mildly irked by the abruptness of the ending--though it is a good song and I usually enjoy it more than that. It was a very solid pick either way.

I haven't played Psi-Ops since it was new, so my memories are too vague to really get into. I know I enjoyed it at the time and was always slightly bitter it never got a sequel, but I can't tell you a single character or plot point. I thought the telekinesis was fun? At least, I'm pretty sure there was telekinesis in this game...

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In another move I'm sure to regret, I'm bumping the following song (and every other song that was at a regular to 6) to 6.6.

...I'm sure there'll be reprecussions, but I feel there was another jump in quality that is not properly represented by having everything at the same point value.

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#183 [#95]

Name: Ostinato
Origin: Sungazer
Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuyVm0eQgWk" data-time="

Nominator: Mycro (14/15)

(8, 7, 6.6)

[This would work well for a Giygas-style final boss.]

I accidentally let autoplay take over and it chose "Bird on the Wing" as the next song to play:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fVleqrHF0w" data-time="



I'm rather mesmerized by this track. I've listened to it about five times in a row now and I'm still not sure how I feel about it. It's like I can't look away from it for some reason that I can't place...

...back on topic, Ostinato doesn't have that effect on me. It's good and what not, but all it does is trigger Earthbound flashbacks, and I was never a big fan of that series. It was abnormal enough that it made me want to try something else by Sungazer (I hadn't intended to go with Bird on the Wing or to listen to it so quickly, but I intended to listen to something eventually), but the memories it inspires are...well, dull, to be quite frank. "Remember the final boss of that game you never liked? Whee!"

[Final Thoughts: A bit harsh, but I can't un-associate the song with Giygas.]

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An interesting note - in the stage version of West Side Story, Office Krupke is in Act II, which means Riff (who leads the song in the film) is already dead, so a supporting character, Action, sings it instead.
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