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Emeraldegg
09/27/19 12:07:32 PM
#51:


That's correct
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IfGodCouldDie
09/27/19 12:08:06 PM
#52:


Ok cool. Just making sure the time it said was correct with the time I am on.
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MartinFF7
09/27/19 5:20:14 PM
#53:


Not sure how I feel about there being two 'hos...
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davidponte
09/28/19 6:59:00 PM
#54:


After the Rantanen deal it's very clear that Dubas got fleeced on the Marner deal.
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Shadow Dino
09/28/19 7:47:41 PM
#55:


Remember that banners fly forever. It'll be worth it if you get a Cup
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davidponte
09/28/19 8:23:36 PM
#56:


That'd be nice, yeah!
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davidponte
09/28/19 8:23:59 PM
#57:


7 year deal for Connor, that's officially all the RFAs, right on time.
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dartman
09/28/19 8:51:16 PM
#58:


Yo nhl people is byfuglien gunna retire or should I draft him later on anyways
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Whiskey_Nick
09/28/19 8:52:55 PM
#59:


man that Marner deal just keeps looking worse and worse
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SmartMuffin
09/28/19 10:07:01 PM
#60:


Whiskey_Nick posted...
man that Marner deal just keeps looking worse and worse


but

but

muh state taxes

and muh UFA years!
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dartman
09/29/19 11:39:42 AM
#61:


dartman posted...
Yo nhl people is byfuglien gunna retire or should I draft him later on anyways


guys
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MartinFF7
09/29/19 11:56:03 AM
#62:


Is a guy who can't even decide wtf he wants to do somebody you want to invest a draft pick in? Maybe if he lasts through to deeper rounds but I would steer clear of drafting him where you normally would assuming he were to play the full season, but that's just me, I completely shit the bed at my own draft.
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SmartMuffin
09/29/19 12:01:05 PM
#63:


yeah... how often is it that someone openly talks about considering retirement, and then not only doesn't retire, but plays a full season as effectively as he had in the past?

Buff was trending down as an impact player already, and has struggled with injuries. He'd have been overrated even before this. I'm not saying he's totally undraftable at this point, it'd be worth throwing a flyer on him super late if he's still around, but based on his pre-season rankings, he won't be. Someone else who isn't paying close attention is going to take him way too early.
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LadyVyxx
09/29/19 9:23:17 PM
#64:


I need everyones opinion who does NHL Fantasy. My main league is a family & friends one we have been doing for years. Its categories again this year and i can never decide how many goalies to draft (2 or 3)

8 people
Standard positions: C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, G, G, BN, BN, BN, BN,

Categories:
Forwards/Defensemen Stat Categories:Goals, Assists, Plus/Minus , Penalty Minutes , Powerplay Points , Shots on Goal , Hits

Goaltenders Stat Categories:
Wins (W), Goals Against (GA), Saves (SV), Shutouts (SHO)

Minimum 3 starts per week !

Also important we can only drop/add players 12 times the entire season so I cant just stream backups every week

So as you can see we dont do save % but rather just saves. So this changes the strategy here slightly.

I've wavered I usually have 3 goalies. We have a few people who ride with 2 and one guy with 4 usually.

So this year I'm debating going 2 only. 3 goalies never seemed to help me. Goals against was always losing category for me vs someone with 2. Shut outside are rare and you cant ever count on them.
Wins was debatable having a 3rd goalie as it's generally a backup & saves was the only easy one to almost guaranteed win since youd generally always accumulate more saves.

Being that theres only 8 of us there's always some halfway decent goalies left Incase of injury.

I've just never done the 2 goalie set up before I always felt it was safest with 3.

Also not related but it's always been a league with Hits and this adds some decent strategy I advise everyone to add this category >_>
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MysteriousStan
09/30/19 12:03:01 AM
#65:


LadyVyxx posted...
Minimum 3 starts per week !

Also important we can only drop/add players 12 times the entire season so I cant just stream backups every week

Yikes at this combo. Interesting that you guys can make this work though.

I've always found goalies to be a crapshoot and usually end up with less than stellar goaltending on my teams even when I draft one early. With limited pickups though I'd probably roll with 3 goalies even if I'm not confident in any of them. If I decided to go with 2 I'd definitely be targeting goalies early to make sure those categories are good to go. Heck, whether going with 2 or 3, I'd probably be targeting 2 goalies early since an 8 person league should leave plenty of valuable players around for later in the draft

LadyVyxx posted...
Also not related but it's always been a league with Hits and this adds some decent strategy I advise everyone to add this category >_>

It's even better when you add ATOI so that you can't just pick up some 4th line scrub who plays like 5 minutes a game just to hit people and take penalties! We also have Blocks as a category which makes defensmen a little more valuable as well. Some of the more valuable players in our league are like less than 5% owned in most leagues lol
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Not Dave
09/30/19 1:19:29 AM
#66:


only two Cs in an 8-man league, wow.

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SmartMuffin
09/30/19 8:17:10 PM
#67:


Honestly I know this probably makes it more complicated, but whether you take 2 or 3 goalies in that situation probably depends on what goalies you have.

If you reach for them early and get two really good ones you're fine. Otherwise concentrate on skaters early and get 3 towards the end.
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Meow1000
09/30/19 8:24:23 PM
#68:


The Blues won the cup

It still feels slightly weird
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LadyVyxx
09/30/19 9:54:45 PM
#69:


SmartMuffin posted...
Honestly I know this probably makes it more complicated, but whether you take 2 or 3 goalies in that situation probably depends on what goalies you have.

If you reach for them early and get two really good ones you're fine. Otherwise concentrate on skaters early and get 3 towards the end.


MysteriousStan posted...
LadyVyxx posted...
Minimum 3 starts per week !

Also important we can only drop/add players 12 times the entire season so I cant just stream backups every week

Yikes at this combo. Interesting that you guys can make this work though.

I've always found goalies to be a crapshoot and usually end up with less than stellar goaltending on my teams even when I draft one early. With limited pickups though I'd probably roll with 3 goalies even if I'm not confident in any of them. If I decided to go with 2 I'd definitely be targeting goalies early to make sure those categories are good to go. Heck, whether going with 2 or 3, I'd probably be targeting 2 goalies early since an 8 person league should leave plenty of valuable players around for later in the draft

LadyVyxx posted...
Also not related but it's always been a league with Hits and this adds some decent strategy I advise everyone to add this category >_>

It's even better when you add ATOI so that you can't just pick up some 4th line scrub who plays like 5 minutes a game just to hit people and take penalties! We also have Blocks as a category which makes defensmen a little more valuable as well. Some of the more valuable players in our league are like less than 5% owned in most leagues lol


Thanks for the input everyone. I guess the brightside of having only 12 drop and pickups in an 8 man league is that theres generally some decent players left if youre desperate at some point. IR allowing a "free" pick up for the duration of IR also helps. League owner is debating changing it from 12 to 15 so that helps.

In previous years I've reached or taken good goalies early like Vaslevsky or Bishop but it never seemed to get me very far.

So i ended up with 2 goalies

Anyways this is how it worked out. I picked 7th.

C - Sidney Crosby
C - Austin Matthews
LW - Taylor Hall
LW - Filip Forsberg
RW - Blake Wheeler
RW - Vladimir Tarasenko
D - Kris Letang
D - John Carlson
D - Dougie Hamilton
D - Rasmus Dahlin

G - John Gibson
G - Petr Mrazek

Bench - C - Mika Zibanejab
Bench - RW - Phil Kessel
Bench - LW - Anders Lee
Bench - D - Dustin Byfuglien

Ya I know Byfuglien but it was literally my last pick so I felt it worth the risk. I also took one or two dudes who were better for Penalty Minutes or Hits vs actual Goals or assists seeing as every category carries equal weight in the end.

We shall see. If byfuglien news comes out that hes retiring I'll drop him and pick up a 3rd goalie like Raanta or Kuemper
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davidponte
10/02/19 7:47:07 AM
#70:


Wake up boys its gameday!
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RPGlord95
10/02/19 9:01:02 AM
#71:


PREDIX

Tampa
Toronto
Boston
Montreal
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Florida
Buffalo
Detroit
Ottawa

Washington
New Jersey
Pittsburgh
Philadelphia
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NYR
Carolina
Columbus
NYI

Tampa > Montreal
Philadelphia > Washington
Toronto > Boston (I know lol)
New Jersey > Pittsburgh

Tampa > Toronto
New Jersey > Philadelphia

Tampa > New Jersey

Nashville
Colorado
Winnipeg
Dallas
St Louis
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Chicago
Minnesota

Calgary
Vegas
San Jose
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Arizona
Edmonton
Vancouver
Anaheim
Los Angeles

Calgary > St Louis
Nashville > Dallas
Colorado > Winnipeg
Vegas > San Jose

Calgary > Vegas
Nashville > Colorado

Nashville > Calgary

Tampa > Nashville
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LadyVyxx
10/02/19 9:45:44 AM
#72:


Hb6vKIS

Let's goooooo
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Shadow Dino
10/02/19 10:05:15 AM
#73:


Hooray, hockey's back!
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Meow1000
10/02/19 10:18:46 AM
#74:


REAL HOCKEY

And I get home just in time for it
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MartinFF7
10/02/19 10:19:28 AM
#75:


honestly LadyVyxx, I could believe in most of that, but Columbus winning the division is just a bridge too far... but maybe Korpisalo unleashes some Binnington-esque hidden talent!
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LadyVyxx
10/02/19 11:19:01 AM
#76:


MartinFF7 posted...
honestly LadyVyxx, I could believe in most of that, but Columbus winning the division is just a bridge too far... but maybe Korpisalo unleashes some Binnington-esque hidden talent!


Ya it's by far the biggest upset there, in really should have picked a safer option
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Metal_DK
10/02/19 1:05:50 PM
#77:


Blue Jackets were +350 to make the playoffs....did they really lose that much talent?

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Emeraldegg
10/02/19 1:08:22 PM
#78:


Well despite their historic upset, they still were an 8 seed last year. Not exactly someone you'd peg to win a division
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MartinFF7
10/02/19 1:16:56 PM
#79:


Metal_DK posted...
Blue Jackets were +350 to make the playoffs....did they really lose that much talent?

Bobrovsky and their top scorer Panarin for starters. Plus their trade deadline pickups (Duchene, Dzingel). And the only replacement for all that is, like... Gustav Nyquist?

So, hard to see how they'll do any better than last year when they went all-in, but there isn't really a clear favourite in the Metropolitan division so anything's possible.
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Metal_DK
10/02/19 1:36:50 PM
#80:


Emeraldegg posted...
Well despite their historic upset, they still were an 8 seed last year. Not exactly someone you'd peg to win a division


They just have to make the playoffs, not win the divison.

MartinFF7 posted...
Bobrovsky and their top scorer Panarin for starters. Plus their trade deadline pickups (Duchene, Dzingel). And the only replacement for all that is, like... Gustav Nyquist?


Ah. Thanks for this. Knew about losing their goalie but didnt even realize Panarin was gone too. Dont keep up with offseasons enough anymore tbh

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Emeraldegg
10/02/19 4:38:57 PM
#81:


Sorry, I thought we were talking about the +2200 that vyxx posted for them to win the div, not the +350 to make playoffs when I said that
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davidponte
10/02/19 5:37:25 PM
#82:


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davidponte
10/02/19 6:18:01 PM
#83:


Also, this isn't a new thought from me, but Fuck Mike Babcock. Seriously. He should have been gone after the first Bruins loss and definitely at the end of last year.

Dubas traded or got rid of all his guys so he had no choice but to start the better players and give them the minutes, and so of course for no fucking reason he decides to bench the hometown Spezza on opening night for literal Nick Shore.

Fuck Mike Babcock.
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davidponte
10/02/19 7:17:17 PM
#84:


Fire Ceci into the sun
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MartinFF7
10/02/19 7:18:59 PM
#85:


lol

but yeah, fuck Mike Babcock. I know we're lamenting being set for another wasted season under his "tutelage"... just need to hope for a miracle.
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Whiskey_Nick
10/02/19 7:21:59 PM
#86:


Tkachuk was on pace for 9840 goals

he is down to like 2000
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davidponte
10/02/19 7:51:40 PM
#87:


Seasons over boys pack it up
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10/02/19 8:21:28 PM
#88:


False alarm boys seasons back on
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davidponte
10/02/19 8:26:59 PM
#89:


Very upset that Bobby Ryan ruined that elite snipe from Leafs legend Ron Hainsey
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Shadow Dino
10/03/19 9:11:56 AM
#90:


https://twitter.com/NHLBlackhawks/status/1179741692997488640?s=19

What a deal for 40 goal scorer. No idea how the Blackhawks got DeBrincat to agree to a bridge deal.
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davidponte
10/03/19 9:51:25 AM
#91:


The first step is to not have Kyle Dubas be a part of the negotiation
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Shadow Dino
10/03/19 9:59:23 AM
#92:


Ah, the final year of the deal is also when Kane, Toews, and Keith are also on expiring contracts. The Blackhawks should have the space to give DeBrincat over $10 million should he continue his current trajectory.
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Shadow Dino
10/04/19 4:48:17 PM
#93:


Woof, Blackhawks looked atrocious there. That blueline is about as bad as feared.
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davidponte
10/04/19 11:50:41 PM
#94:


The Leafs may never lose again
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TheKnightOfNee
10/04/19 11:53:02 PM
#95:


Why are there teams that haven't even started their season yet? I feel like I'm missing out on everything.
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hockeydude15
10/05/19 12:26:37 AM
#96:


TheKnightOfNee posted...
Why are there teams that haven't even started their season yet? I feel like I'm missing out on everything.
Because the NHL schedual is the worst out of all the major leagues. So much of it doesn't make any sense.

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davidponte
10/05/19 9:40:40 PM
#97:


It was 4-1
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LadyVyxx
10/05/19 9:53:15 PM
#98:


Austin Matthews saves us
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RPGlord95
10/05/19 10:06:04 PM
#99:


It is gonna be a long long season for the Sens. I saw no attempt at even being competitive
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Emeraldegg
10/05/19 10:07:08 PM
#100:


Canes meanwhile are 2-0!
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