Current Events > If Obi Wan joined Yoda to fight Palpatine, how different would it be? *spoilers*

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archedsoul
09/06/19 3:16:54 PM
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Spoilers up to TLJ only.

Would they have taken care of both Palpatine and eventually Anakin and avoided everything that happened at the end if RotS and beyond?
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FrozenXylophone
09/06/19 3:17:45 PM
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Depends if he got the high ground.
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Monkhood
09/06/19 3:19:10 PM
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Considering Obi-Wan could barely take on Dooku even with Anakin's help, I don't see how he'd stand a chance against Palpatine.
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DifferentialEquation
09/06/19 3:19:27 PM
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Palpatine would kill Obi-wan pretty quickly and turn it into a 1v1 with Yoda.
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GeneralKenobi85
09/06/19 3:20:23 PM
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I think Palpatine would have avoided the fight at all costs because there's no way he would be able to win that.
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DoctorVader
09/06/19 3:22:06 PM
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Palpatine would have ran. He only beat Yoda because Yoda lost his saber and eventually fell down.

Obi Wan would have helped a good amount, especially if he had the higher ground.

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LordFarquad1312
09/06/19 3:22:06 PM
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Makes no difference, Palpatine beat the Jedi politically.
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ASithLord7
09/06/19 3:22:55 PM
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Monkhood posted...
Considering Obi-Wan could barely take on Dooku even with Anakin's help, I don't see how he'd stand a chance against Palpatine.

Kenobi beat Anakin, who couldve beat Palpatine. Not saying it works as a direct hierarchy, but him and Yoda together wouldve won
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Pepys Monster
09/06/19 3:26:50 PM
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I don't understand how Obi-Wan jobbed against Dooku, while Anakin won, and then later, Obi-Wan was literally better than Anakin in a battle against him.
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__aCEr__
09/06/19 3:26:54 PM
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Well Palpatine killed 3 Jedi Masters in like 5 seconds.
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EverDownward
09/06/19 3:29:52 PM
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It would end with Palpatine getting the upper hand as he manages to take Obi-Wan hostage in the heat of the moment and forces Yoda to do whatever. Then he either kills Obi-Wan, or Obi-Wan is able to escape somehow (with, or without Yoda's help).
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GeneralKenobi85
09/06/19 3:33:07 PM
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DoctorVader posted...
Palpatine would have ran. He only beat Yoda because Yoda lost his saber and eventually fell down.

Obi Wan would have helped a good amount, especially if he had the higher ground.

Yeah I think Palpatine only accepted Yoda's challenge initially because he was still riding high on having achieved his ultimate victory. Then during the battle he kind of realized he was outmatched and there was no point in risking his life when he had already won the more important battle.
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InfinityMonster
09/06/19 3:35:37 PM
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ASithLord7
09/06/19 3:42:58 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
__aCEr__ posted...
Well Palpatine killed 3 Jedi Masters in like 5 seconds.

he killed 2 nameless goons then lost to mace, didnt he?

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FrozenXylophone
09/06/19 3:45:29 PM
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Mace whooped Palp butt
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Scotty_Rogers
09/06/19 4:15:00 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
I don't understand how Obi-Wan jobbed against Dooku, while Anakin won, and then later, Obi-Wan was literally better than Anakin in a battle against him.


Dooku purposefully lost to Anakin on Palpatine's orders; they were trying to goad Anakin into the using the Dark Side.
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jumi
09/06/19 4:26:53 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
he killed 2 nameless goons then lost to mace, didnt he?


Two nobodies and Kit Fisto, the only one of note. Then Mace beat that ass.

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ThePieReborn
09/06/19 4:28:08 PM
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jumi posted...
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Two nobodies and Kit Fisto, the only one of note. Then Mace beat that ass.

The whole Vaapad thing is stupid like that.
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ThePrinceFish
09/06/19 4:29:07 PM
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jumi posted...
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Two nobodies and Kit Fisto, the only one of note. Then Mace beat that ass.

All Kit Fisto has ever done is sucked and died while looking like a slightly memorable alien. That's hardly notable.
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apocalyptic_4
09/06/19 4:30:02 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
I don't understand how Obi-Wan jobbed against Dooku, while Anakin won, and then later, Obi-Wan was literally better than Anakin in a battle against him.


Dooku purposefully lost to Anakin on Palpatine's orders; they were trying to goad Anakin into the using the Dark Side.


No way that's true
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ThePieReborn
09/06/19 4:30:46 PM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
Scotty_Rogers posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
I don't understand how Obi-Wan jobbed against Dooku, while Anakin won, and then later, Obi-Wan was literally better than Anakin in a battle against him.


Dooku purposefully lost to Anakin on Palpatine's orders; they were trying to goad Anakin into the using the Dark Side.


No way that's true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQldOeZ75gY" data-time="&start=165


Clearly the face of someone in on the plan.
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Scotty_Rogers
09/06/19 4:32:51 PM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
Scotty_Rogers posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
I don't understand how Obi-Wan jobbed against Dooku, while Anakin won, and then later, Obi-Wan was literally better than Anakin in a battle against him.


Dooku purposefully lost to Anakin on Palpatine's orders; they were trying to goad Anakin into the using the Dark Side.


No way that's true


Nah Lucas confirmed. Plus, Dooku was expecting Palpatine to stop Anakin from killing him, but Palpatine screwed him.
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jumi
09/06/19 4:38:35 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
All Kit Fisto has ever done is sucked and died while looking like a slightly memorable alien. That's hardly notable.


He did stuff in the Clone Wars series.

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PrettyBoyFloyd
09/06/19 4:42:26 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
apocalyptic_4 posted...
Scotty_Rogers posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
I don't understand how Obi-Wan jobbed against Dooku, while Anakin won, and then later, Obi-Wan was literally better than Anakin in a battle against him.


Dooku purposefully lost to Anakin on Palpatine's orders; they were trying to goad Anakin into the using the Dark Side.


No way that's true


Nah Lucas confirmed. Plus, Dooku was expecting Palpatine to stop Anakin from killing him, but Palpatine screwed him.

Always was my thought.

I mean Dooku handed Obi-Wan his ass to him twice, made Anakin look like a punk, fought Yoda and lived to tell about it.

Then got screw jobbed and killed by Anakin like if Vince McMahon was running things.
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Zack_Attackv1
09/06/19 4:45:38 PM
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Obi Wan got incapacitated earlier in the movie by Dooku. He would have been nothing more than a liability.
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jumi
09/06/19 4:52:24 PM
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The other Jedi would have been more helpful if they just stood back and let Mace fight, while doing Force stuff to Palpatine (turning off his lightsaber, pulling his shirt over his head, etc.).

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
09/06/19 4:53:53 PM
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Yoda was getting rekt by Senate spam. I doubt Obi-Wan could have done anything against that.
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Shablagoo
09/06/19 4:55:42 PM
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InfinityMonster posted...
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LMAO
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ASithLord7
09/06/19 5:43:45 PM
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ThePieReborn posted...
jumi posted...
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]



Two nobodies and Kit Fisto, the only one of note. Then Mace beat that ass.

The whole Vaapad thing is stupid like that.

What? No lmao. Nothing about that is canon.
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Pogo_Marimo
09/06/19 5:54:37 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
ya know, kid me was convinced that the emperor was taking a dive against mace, in order to drum up sympathy from anakin

i was shocked to hear that no, mace actually beat the emperor fair and square. i still think it's kinda dumb that way tbh

Is this legit true? I mean, Mace was an excellent warrior by all accounts but the fight looked like Palps was throwing the whole time after he effortlessly dispatched three other jedi knights/masters and literally had Mace at knife point but didn't kill him.
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sLaCkEr408___RJ
09/06/19 5:55:44 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
ThePieReborn posted...
jumi posted...
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]



Two nobodies and Kit Fisto, the only one of note. Then Mace beat that ass.

The whole Vaapad thing is stupid like that.

What? No lmao. Nothing about that is canon.

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ASithLord7
09/06/19 5:56:12 PM
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...

When you train your entire life to become a Jedi Master and finally fight a Sith:

I meant nothing about what he was implying about Vapaad is canon.
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Gobstoppers12
09/06/19 5:57:17 PM
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Obi Wan gets bodied in the first 10 seconds and the fight proceeds as normal.
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GeneralKenobi85
09/06/19 5:59:19 PM
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Saesee Tiin was pretty cool in the old Clone Wars cartoon. I don't remember the other guy ever doing anything of note though. Agen Kolar I believe is his name.
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DoctorVader
09/07/19 1:48:14 AM
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...
Yeah I think Palpatine only accepted Yoda's challenge initially because he was still riding high on having achieved his ultimate victory. Then during the battle he kind of realized he was outmatched and there was no point in risking his life when he had already won the more important battle.
Yeah, exactly.

He tried to run away because after Yoda blasted him, he knew he was kind of in over his head.

But Yoda stopped him and Palpatine was more like "fuck it, even if I lose, Vader will be more powerful anyway".

If Obi Wan was there, he would have tried way harder to make an exit. Obi Wan was still one of the best Jedi even when they were all alive.

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
09/07/19 4:41:41 AM
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DoctorVader posted...
GeneralKenobi85 posted...
Yeah I think Palpatine only accepted Yoda's challenge initially because he was still riding high on having achieved his ultimate victory. Then during the battle he kind of realized he was outmatched and there was no point in risking his life when he had already won the more important battle.
Yeah, exactly.

He tried to run away because after Yoda blasted him, he knew he was kind of in over his head.

But Yoda stopped him and Palpatine was more like "fuck it, even if I lose, Vader will be more powerful anyway".

If Obi Wan was there, he would have tried way harder to make an exit. Obi Wan was still one of the best Jedi even when they were all alive.

Nah. Yoda was in over his head. Palpatine was on a whole nother level.
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AlisLandale
09/07/19 5:58:52 AM
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Pepys Monster posted...
I don't understand how Obi-Wan jobbed against Dooku, while Anakin won, and then later, Obi-Wan was literally better than Anakin in a battle against him.


The high ground is a helluva drug
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pres_madagascar
09/07/19 6:00:39 AM
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Anakin had plot armor given to him by Georgie.
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Muten_Jiren
09/07/19 6:03:20 AM
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Obi probably could have solo'd Sheev at that point, denying it was a great mistake by Yoda.
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