Board 8 > Fire Emblem: Three Houses Topic 3: Mortal Savant is a Bad Class Edition

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Cybat
10/17/19 10:11:54 AM
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Yeah I am in the middle of my BE Maddening run too, I had the same realization about Dorothea's amazing personal skill. I just got to the timeskip and the first chapter after it is nasty. Looking forward to seeing your progress.

(Also, Crimson Flower is the name of the Black Eagle route)
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SantaRPidgey
10/17/19 2:47:39 PM
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Logience posted...
FE3 (which none of you have played)


It might be my second favorite Fire Emblem!

(the remake at least)
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LeonhartFour
10/17/19 5:33:59 PM
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The Blue Lions route is what MGSV should have been

Felix...I'm already a boar.
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Logience
10/17/19 9:54:21 PM
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Somethingawful is currently doing an LP of FE16, but I dont really think its the smartest thing to have one person just go through all four routes one after the other. Especially after the last Fire Emblem LPer abandoned his last two LPs of FE14 and 15, the former just as he was almost at the finish line.

Weirdly enough, the LP request thread even stated the problems inherent in doing an FE16 LP - namely the multiple routes and the fact that you cant get inter-house supports AND have classmates appear as enemies in the same run - and was actually getting together a plan to have multiple people participate in the same LP thread. But everybody just discarded it when they were told by another person Im already doing this LP, and Im moving this discussion to another thread.
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WhiteLens
10/18/19 9:26:27 AM
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hombad46
10/18/19 9:27:25 AM
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WhiteLens posted...
Famitsu Popularity poll for Top 20 males and females

https://www.siliconera.com/2019/10/17/famitsu-readers-loved-fire-emblem-three-houses-bernadetta-and-dimitri/


RIP Ignatz I guess
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LeonhartFour
10/18/19 9:48:14 AM
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Japan simultaneously has good taste and bad taste at the same time

Felix top 3 good

Sylvain 4th bad
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Shadow Dino
10/18/19 10:08:33 AM
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Mildly surprised Lysithea didn't Aoi Yuuki her way to the top spot.

We can go ahead and give Dimitri the male CYL4 crown now. Female side very much looks like a toss up, as Lys, Bernie, and Hilda can plausibly over take Edelgard, especially now that more people have finished the game.
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Logience
10/18/19 12:01:15 PM
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>Leonie gets least votes among the students
>Edelgard barely edging out Sylvain
>Claude managing to take 2nd (probably the most baffling)

On the bright side, Hilda beat Edelgard, and Gatekeeper beat Jeralt.
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Alanna82
10/18/19 12:06:28 PM
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Sylvain best character. Crest babies. LOL. I'm glad he got 4th at least. I thought he would do way worse since I have so many UO's on things. My uncle actually might know Sylvain's voice actor. He mentioned in an interview he used to do magic in Omaha and so did my uncle.

Actually Ignatz got the least amount of votes of the students. He didn't get on the list. Poor guy.

At least Edelgard isn't first for girls. (I really don't like her)
Best girl is Marianne.
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SantaRPidgey
10/18/19 1:58:57 PM
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dimitri and claude are pretty close, I would say claude prb has more international appeal.

Bernie for CYL4 is a cause I would rally for
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WhiteLens
10/18/19 2:48:37 PM
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Logience posted...
>Leonie gets least votes among the students

No, that's Ignatz considering that he's not even on the list at all.

I legit feel bad for the guy.
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Logience
10/18/19 3:01:46 PM
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WhiteLens posted...
Logience posted...
>Leonie gets least votes among the students

No, that's Ignatz considering that he's not even on the list at all.

I legit feel bad for the guy.

Hed still probably get more votes, though, since he still unflinchingly loves the Chosen Self-Insert.
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LeonhartFour
10/18/19 6:02:40 PM
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friendly reminder that Sylvain is just a poor man's Zelos
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Mac Arrowny
10/18/19 6:10:56 PM
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I think in the big Reddit poll Sylvain won the "best character development" category.

Also he's nothing like Zelos.
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LeonhartFour
10/18/19 6:12:30 PM
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his archetype is very much like Zelos

he's just nowhere near as good

and he doesn't really develop or change

you just learn why he is the way he is
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Mac Arrowny
10/18/19 6:14:09 PM
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Maybe I just like Sylvain more because Zelos had a terrible English voice actor. Would probably like Zelos more with the Japanese VA...
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Anagram
10/18/19 7:12:42 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
See Zelos I like. Sylvain not so much.

For BE Maddening, what classes should I go for? This is not a run where I can dick around.

Wyvern Rider is generally the best all-purpose class except when bows are around.
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NBIceman
10/18/19 7:13:35 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
friendly reminder that Sylvain is just a poor man's Zelos

I don't know if I necessarily see that as that big of an insult. Zelos is pretty damn cool.
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Logience
10/18/19 7:15:17 PM
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Ive never played a Tales game. And Im too scared to start. Anyone know a non-cringe playthrough of the franchise I can use so I can understand what people are talking about?
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WhiteLens
10/18/19 7:34:15 PM
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Dont worry about it, its just arbitrary comparisons on womanizers.

Might as well throw in Edgar, Zidane, and Sain in there as well.
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LeonhartFour
10/18/19 7:41:23 PM
#328:


Eh, the womanizer thing is an obvious comparison point, but they're both also Chosen Ones who secretly hate the fact that they're Chosen Ones, as well as having siblings who resent them for being the Chosen One ahead of themselves.

NBIceman posted...
I don't know if I necessarily see that as that big of an insult.


Well, the point is that when you've seen them do it better with Zelos, it becomes clear that they did it much worse with Sylvain by comparison. He's just not as interesting as Zelos.
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Logience
10/18/19 8:03:57 PM
#329:


How many other characters in FE are inferior versions of Tales characters?
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KamikazePotato
10/18/19 8:11:04 PM
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The fact that Sylvain's womanizing hurts a lot of women (most of it is offscreen, but you DO see him make a girl cry in like, his C Support) is underplayed by both the game and the fanbase. I don't think he ever really gets called out on that fact in his supports, at least not in a way that isn't lighthearted.

Best character development probably goes to Caspar, Bernadetta (Edelgard route), and Marianne.
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LeonhartFour
10/18/19 8:27:57 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
I don't think he ever really gets called out on that fact in his supports, at least not in a way that isn't lighthearted.


Ingrid constantly gives him crap for it, but she's about the only one.

Well, Byleth does, too, in his silent way.
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SantaRPidgey
10/18/19 8:29:34 PM
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The part about Sylvain that really got to me was his self awareness that his charm and intelligence would ultimately lead to nothing but harm later in life.

Much like Edelgard isnt a good character because shes a "good" character. His character isn't cool because he's got a nasty exterior but deep down theres good inside. He's a really compelling character because he is a tormented person who acts like garbage and just deals with his flaws in his own way. Unlike Zelos who has every flaw explained away by plot or monolouge, Sylvain is just garbage and then at the end hes a little less garbage. He's a really good flawed character.
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KamikazePotato
10/18/19 9:46:25 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
Ingrid constantly gives him crap for it, but she's about the only one.

Even she mostly says something like "it's embarrassing behavior", as opposed to "this is morally wrong and you should stop".

SantaRPidgey posted...
Much like Edelgard isnt a good character because shes a "good" character. His character isn't cool because he's got a nasty exterior but deep down theres good inside. He's a really compelling character because he is a tormented person who acts like garbage and just deals with his flaws in his own way.

And much like with Edelgard, he has a tendency to get whitewashed by the fanbase, which is the part that bugs me.
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Logience
10/19/19 12:00:10 AM
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Just read a post where some guy likes Mercedes with Sylvain, and it has me wondering whether thats a legit pairing or a trainwreck waiting to happen.
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SantaRPidgey
10/19/19 12:54:06 AM
#336:


KamikazePotato posted...
And much like with Edelgard, he has a tendency to get whitewashed by the fanbase, which is the part that bugs me.


I mean to be fair, Sylvain is the type of person I could relate to in a personal way despite his flaws and not a megalomaniac driven by her need for conquest and control of an entire landmass.
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Shadow Dino
10/19/19 1:28:20 AM
#337:


KamikazePotato posted...

Best character development probably goes to Caspar, Bernadetta (Edelgard route), and Marianne.


God damn are there some CF Bernadetta endings that bug the shit out of me due to them completely undoing her character development and having her regress into a shut-in.

(This is why Bernadetta's best ending is with Hubert. Also happens to be one of Hubert's best endings.)
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SantaRPidgey
10/19/19 1:43:30 AM
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Bernie is a shut in, she never really gets "over" it, she just works around it while also embracing that it is part of who she is. Even when she leaves her room, its still clear that shes spending most of her time in her room off screen
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SaveEstelle
10/20/19 6:13:39 PM
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Marianne's development is terrific.
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WhiteLens
10/23/19 1:00:57 PM
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LeonhartFour
10/23/19 1:03:12 PM
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Logience
10/23/19 2:59:30 PM
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So this pretty much confirms that Metroid has fallen for the sake of Fire Emblem.
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Logience
10/23/19 6:48:21 PM
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https://twitter.com/TheGameShelfOG/status/1186833539599343616

FE14 is unironically worse than razor blades.
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