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Well, it's my hometown college so that would he something at least
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welcome to college football saturday
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UCF only being 17th makes a mockery of the rankings. There is no way the majority of the 16 teams above them have looked better than them based off what we have seen so far.

I mean, so far they've blown out FCS Florida A&M, and Florida Atlantic. Doesn't exactly tell you a whole lot. Certainly if this stays a blow out they should move up some, though.

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Right and teams above them have struggled against similar level of opposition. Teams are getting P5 rankings boosts before actually playing any P5 games

Prime example I can think of.

There is a 0% chance UCF are ranked above Michigan next week even if this result stays the same way. And there is no way on earth you can convince me Michigan have looked better in their 2 games against Middle Tennessee and Army than UCF have looked in their 3 games so far. By end of season sure that could and probably will be different. Based on what we have seen so far though? No way.

And I'm not saying it just because it's Michigan. There's been years before where Ohio State have looked dog shit early on but because of the name we stay in the high end of the top 10 despite other teams looking better.

The way I view ranking is you should be judging the play on the field. Not conference, not future schedule but actual physical play that we have seen. If a team is struggling on offense or defense against lesser opposition then that should be reflected in the rankings instead of just going 'Oh well they won so keep them where they are'

I don't think anyone ranked above UCF has struggled against that bad of opposition. My guess is that Army's a good deal better than Florida Atlantic, for example. I do agree that voters are too hesitant to move teams down after ugly wins (and feel too obligated to drop teams a certain amount after a close loss to a quality team). Michigan should have dropped out of the top 10 after their first game, and especially after the Army game. I have Michigan 15th and UCF 16th, and will probably move UCF ahead of them barring a huge Stanford comeback.

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I mean if you want a direct comparison. I watched both games and I would say that UCF looked better against FAU than Ohio State did. That's not a sleight on Ohio State and more speaking highly of Ohio State

I would also say Oregon have no business being above UCF based on Auburn's other result.

I'd say that Florida shouldn't be above UCF either because despite them beating Miami, we have seen than Miami aren't a good team (I.e. if we got UCF vs Miami, UCF would crush them).

Texas are above them based on a defeat to LSU which would be fair enough with a larger sample size but with the small sample size we have now, UCF should be above them.

Or I guess another that is confusing is Utah. Utah are higher based on what? People being hyped about them this year? Why? They haven't done anything on field this year to justify that and they also aren't coming off a strong record last year so it's not even like we can say they are returning a strong team from the previous year.

I could point out more if I wanted to dig deeper

The point that Power 5 schools get much more benefit of the doubt than Group of 5 teams is pretty inarguable

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Like for any other team I would say it would sort itself out during the season but for a team like UCF, this sort of early ranking discrepency is exactly what keeps them outside the hunt at the end of the season when it matters.

Their ranking isn't based on reality. It's based on TV/Money which is already BS but even more so when they won't let UCF into a P5 conference despite them deserving it both based on college size and sports performance.

Go fsu

Itll get resolved when we go to 8-Team playoff

All Power 5 conference Champs, top-ranked Group of 5 team, and 2 Wild Cards

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lol sparty
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Well, I guess I feel a little less bad about losing to BYU now.
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Came home just in time to see Kentucky Kentucky

Florida and Michigan are not good, but Kentucky will always be Kentucky!

Mistake to score that TD btw. Just go down.
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Meow1000 posted...

Florida and Michigan are not good, but Kentucky will always be Kentucky!

We'll always have 2018.
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In this biased college football world, the only thing that matters for UCF is to be the top G5 champ in the end. And that may require them to win every game because Boise State is ranked and has a soft schedule.
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My Michigan on pace for a top 5 worst loss in school history
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glad I had to work today and didn't have to subject myself to the Florida/Tennessee game
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UCF looking like absolute shit but they're on the scoreboard now.
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well the committee won't be worrying about UCF this year
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As surprising as it was to see Notre Dame leading at the half, this isn't surprising at all.

Their offense has had one meaningful play all game and barely scored after being gifted the ball at the 7

Also Vegas really wants them to cover. The money was so heavily slanted on Georgia the line kept shifting until shortly before kickoff

But serious question when's the last time they had a quarterback that was actually good it feels like it's been the better half of two decades
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do we consider Brady Quinn "good"
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Refs missed a blatant DPI and suddenly Notre Dame is 40 yards from winning

Except 1-2 yard passes in the middle of the field don't help

The O line totally failing didn't help either

Well Notre Dame's season is already over we don't have to worry about them getting blown out in the CFP again!
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ninkendo posted...

My Michigan on pace for a top 5 worst loss in school history

Happy to be of service!

swirIdude posted...

UCF looking like absolute shit but they're on the scoreboard now.

Gotta wonder how much of their success was because of Scott Frost.
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Eh. I'm a Nebraska fan. I love Scott Frost.

He wasn't the sole reason for thier success. They had talent too.

Frost has definitely done shown some weakness in his coaching in his small tenure here at Nebraska. Mainly in adjustments as the game goes on.
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so uh

how about that UCLA/Washington State game huh
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For as much shit as ya'll gave Mike Riley, Frost is looking about 10x worse so far.
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Not too much of it, if 2018's 12-1 UCF season is any indication!
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Good to see Nebraska finally exposed for the weak team they are.
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Nebraska has basically never not been exposed this season

yeah but usually they're slightly better than the team exposing them this year so they can have hope

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SmartMuffin posted...

For as much shit as ya'll gave Mike Riley, Frost is looking about 10x worse so far.

They should've kept Bo Pelini. That said, Frost isn't playing with his recruits yet, so that's part of it. That's also part of why TOSU is clobbering them right now.

Also woah Clemson almost lost
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Michigan beat up Rutgers 52-0

weird they played a scrimmage game today the season ended last week
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Northwestern defense: pretty good! (Held Wisconsin to 10 offensive points)
Northwestern offense: unspeakably bad! And thats before the quarterback injuries!

Overall: just play the song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdpBZ5_b48g" data-time="

I think I much prefer going undefeated in non-conference and whatever in conference to starting off terrible and backdooring into a bunch of wins.

nobody has believed in Nebraska for 15 years
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LeonhartFour posted...

nobody has believed in Nebraska for 15 years

Other than the pollsters this entire season. Those brand-name loving jabronis!
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eh this is a pretty weak year for college football overall

they've gotta fill 25 spots somehow
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NewerShadow posted...

Northwestern offense: unspeakably bad! And thats before the quarterback injuries!

Badgers defense is something else this year. And I say that as a Badger fan >_>

Northwestern defense: pretty good! (Held Wisconsin to 10 offensive points)

And as a Badger fan, if there's one team that's given our offense problems in recent memory, it's Northwestern. I have a lot of respect for the Wildcats' defense. More than I do for... certain referees deciding games.
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Current Northwestern combined QB passing, through 4 games:
61/130 for 566 yards; 2 TD/7 INT, 4 fumbles lost; 56 rushing attempts/107 yards/1 TD (May include 11 sacks/-101 yards?)

hard to imagine preseason that we would be missing the days of Trevor Siemian and Clayton Thorson, but here we are.

NewerShadow posted...

Current Northwestern combined QB passing, through 4 games:
61/130 for 566 yards; 2 TD/7 INT, 4 fumbles lost; 56 rushing attempts/107 yards/1 TD (May include 11 sacks/-101 yards?)

hard to imagine preseason that we would be missing the days of Trevor Siemian and Clayton Thorson, but here we are.

I am surprised you admitting to be a Northwestern fan. And the lack of acknowledgement of UNCs near Miss against Clemson.

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Corrik7 posted...

And the lack of acknowledgement of UNCs near Miss against Clemson

You missed something.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Also woah Clemson almost lost

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BlueCrystalTear posted...

You missed something.

Fair enough. Tho a cursory comment to almost the biggest upset of the year is a bit weak! Especially how it ended!

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It'd be a huge upset, sure.

But thanks to ya'lls precious playoff system, it wouldn't actually matter. A one-loss Clemson is still getting in. This is how the playoff system has destroyed the excitement of the CFB regular season.
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A 1-loss Clemson with that weak ACC schedule would be no lock, unless the other top teams start losing too.

But they'd probably get an edge thanks to reputation even though the committee will tell you that's not a factor.
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swirIdude posted...

A 1-loss Clemson with that weak ACC schedule would be no lock, unless the other top teams start losing too.

But they'd probably get an edge thanks to reputation even though the committee will tell you that's not a factor.

Undefeated Alabama, Undefeated Ohio State, Undefeated Oklahoma/1 loss Georgia / 1 loss Clemson.

Would be dicey.

Notre Dame is probably out tbqh in that scenario.

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It wouldn't be dicey at all. One-loss defending champion gets in over any and all other one-loss teams. And since Notre Dame + everybody in the Pac-12 already has a loss, it means they couldn't fall farther than #4. The committee would claim otherwise, but that would be a blatant and obvious lie.
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I am surprised you admitting to be a Northwestern fan.

While this may be hard for you specifically to comprehend, Corrik, being a fan sometimes means owning the negatives that come up for your team (and being frustrated by them). If you cant sometimes accept the surreal like having the worst completion percentage of any p5 team, youre just being a fair weather fan.

Also, Northwestern won their division last year, theres no shame in being a fan! Given that its my alma mater, its not really surprising though.

SmartMuffin posted...

It wouldn't be dicey at all. One-loss defending champion gets in over any and all other one-loss teams. And since Notre Dame + everybody in the Pac-12 already has a loss, it means they couldn't fall farther than #4. The committee would claim otherwise, but that would be a blatant and obvious lie.

Nah one loss Georgia or Bama get in over Clemson there. If it's like last season and both have one loss but Bama only lost the championship game then both likely get in over them. Undefeated Big 10 and Big 12 champs would get over as well. So it could definitely have led to them not getting in.

Clemson would probably be fine but they could definitely fall beyond 4th.
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Nah one loss Georgia or Bama get in over Clemson there.

No. Not for a second. One loss defending champs with their most famous players all back? No other one loss team is getting in ahead of them.

And of course, the odds of the SEC AND Big Ten AND Big 12 all having undefeated champions is pretty damn low in the first place.
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