Poll of the Day > Was Ronald Reagan racist?

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SkynyrdRocker
08/17/19 9:59:29 PM
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Was he? - Results (2 votes)
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Sí, pero en español
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Lokarin
08/17/19 10:02:53 PM
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Yes, he made weedle illegal to crush trainer communities
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aHappySacka
08/17/19 10:11:58 PM
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I don't care enough to research it myself but that clip of Boondocks explains it well enough.
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Mead
08/17/19 10:28:12 PM
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Totally, just look at all the systemically racist policies he put in place

Oh and he literally called african people monkeys

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Blighboy
08/17/19 10:56:49 PM
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Mead posted...
Totally, just look at all the systemically racist policies he put in place

Oh and he literally called african people monkeys

He was just making reference to how all humans share a common heritage with the great apes.

You'd think the left would know this, but it seems they're willing to use evolution as a weapon and then ignore it when convenient.
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MarioLinkNES
08/18/19 12:15:19 AM
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No.
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Mead
08/18/19 12:16:19 AM
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MarioLinkNES posted...
No.


Is that the full extent of your reasoning?

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-Komaiko54-
08/18/19 12:20:47 AM
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Not at all
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JoseAAV
08/18/19 12:40:10 AM
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In a thrifty ironic way yes
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THEGODDAMNBATMA
08/18/19 12:41:39 AM
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Not only would I say he was racist, I'd say he was arguably among the most racist of presidents.
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BlackScythe0
08/18/19 12:56:57 AM
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That recently uncovered conversation of his made it clear that he indeed was.

Not really an issue up for debate at this point.
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Zeus
08/18/19 2:00:12 AM
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Once upon a time, I might have have accused Reagan of being racist, but the mods showed me the error of my ways. In fact, going forward I'm playing it safe and not criticizing Reagan at all.
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Mead
08/18/19 2:06:17 AM
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Zeus peddling fake news again

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Zeus
08/18/19 2:07:46 AM
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And Mead spinning webs fit to beat any spider.
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BlackScythe0
08/18/19 2:43:26 AM
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Zeus posted...
Once upon a time, I might have have accused Reagan of being racist, but the mods showed me the error of my ways. In fact, going forward I'm playing it safe and not criticizing Reagan at all.


o.0

I'm confused.
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Mead
08/18/19 2:59:39 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
o.0

I'm confused.


He got modded for brushing off the Raegan monkey comments as just a joke

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BlackScythe0
08/18/19 3:10:27 AM
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Mead posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
o.0

I'm confused.


He got modded for brushing off the Raegan monkey comments as just a joke

Yea he got modded for the opposite of what he just said.

Hence the confusion.
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Zeus
08/18/19 3:15:29 AM
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Mead posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
o.0

I'm confused.


He got modded for brushing off the Raegan monkey comments as just a joke


Except that's not even close to what I said and you even conceded that after backpedaling and changing your story several times.

However, I'm sure that's what you probably spun as a narrative to the mods, not unlike your other willfully malicious misinterpretations.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
08/18/19 3:16:13 AM
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Is Ronald McDonald a clown?
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
08/18/19 3:21:55 AM
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Zeus is pretending what Regan said was a joke? Isn't that what got him suspended the last time. Or was that one of 6 alts he yanked out.
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Mead
08/18/19 3:44:06 AM
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Mead posted...
Zeus peddling fake news again



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Zeus
08/18/19 3:45:09 AM
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Mead posted...
Mead posted...
Zeus peddling fake news again



Zeus posted...
Mead spinning webs fit to beat any spider.

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Mead
08/18/19 3:54:31 AM
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Not gonna prove you wrong for a 10th time but everyone who saw the post knows exactly what you said and why you were fairly modded for it

The fact that you are still bringing it up all this time later is a bit pathetic tbh

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HelIWithoutSin
08/18/19 3:56:22 AM
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Remember when he said that the "someone" that told him the acting mod didn't even read the article was you?
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Mead
08/18/19 3:59:40 AM
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HelIWithoutSin posted...
Remember when he said that the "someone" that told him the acting mod didn't even read the article was you?


That was freaking bananas

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Zeus
08/18/19 4:03:00 AM
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Mead posted...
Not gonna prove you wrong for a 10th time but everyone who saw the post knows exactly what you said and why you were fairly modded for it

The fact that you are still bringing it up all this time later is a bit pathetic tbh


And I explained it in numerous topics already why your lies are flat-out lies. I went into the topic to criticize what Reagan said, you lied and spun it then I got modded. It further demonstrates that your vendetta is wholly personal in nature.

HelIWithoutSin posted...
Remember when he said that the "someone" that told him the acting mod didn't even read the article was you?


No, I said that somebody implied it. And that person was Mead.... which I literally answered when you brought it up in another topic.
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Mead
08/18/19 4:04:51 AM
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Im not sure which is more concerning

That he feels the urge to lie this much, or the possibility that he actually believes what he is posting

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
08/18/19 4:06:21 AM
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HelIWithoutSin posted...
Remember when he said that the "someone" that told him the acting mod didn't even read the article was you?

This one T3IlkZP
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Zeus
08/18/19 4:08:29 AM
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Mead posted...
The fact that you are still bringing it up all this time later is a bit pathetic tbh


It's not so much a matter of me "bringing it up" as this topic seems designed to re-open that discussion. And yeah, I'm still fucking annoyed by that BS. I post in a topic to criticize racism -- the least controversial thing ever given how clear-cut the situation was --- and you (or somebody, although you top that list of suspects) still manage to spin that shit, turn it upside down, etc, to get me modded.

Mead posted...
Im not sure which is more concerning

That he feels the urge to lie this much, or the possibility that he actually believes what he is posting


As for me, I know that you don't actually believe your nonsense and that you're claiming it solely to troll, just as you do with so many other things. You lie, you manipulate, and you spin your little narratives. How many people have you born false witness against over the years?
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Mead
08/18/19 4:16:06 AM
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2apBkte

Spin

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Zeus
08/18/19 4:19:58 AM
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Mead posted...
Spin

Mead posted...
He got modded for brushing off the Raegan monkey comments as just a joke


Case-in-point. I roundly criticized Reagan's words as textbook racism and specified that what he said after the racial slur is what really punted the ball. The only thing kinda unclear is that I stopped short of including the racial slur in my quote of your post -- because I was worried about getting modded for including it even in a quote. Meanwhile you completely misrepresented my remarks in this topic (see your above quoted post) and in countless other places, repeatedly reframing them to suggest I meant something I didn't. It was vile trickery on your part, plain and simple, to advance your libelous campaign against me.
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Mead
08/18/19 4:35:32 AM
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Your words speak for themselves

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Zeus
08/18/19 4:49:44 AM
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Mead posted...
Your words speak for themselves


Then why do you keep trying to claim I said something else? And why did you changed that something else multiple times when I called you on it in another topic? And why do you keep insisting that I meant something that clearly goes against what I said and, for that matter, contradicts the original article?
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HelIWithoutSin
08/18/19 4:51:20 AM
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Zeus posted...
No, I said that somebody implied it. And that person was Mead.... which I literally answered when you brought it up in another topic.


Except he never did in your back and forth exchange. And if he did imply it, how does you telling him the very thing he implied make any sense as a rebuttal?

Mead posted...
Your words speak for themselves


Except when he uses the word "joke" apparently. That's when the word wasn't spoken at all, according to him.
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Mead
08/18/19 4:53:08 AM
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And why did you changed that something else multiple times when I called you on it in another topic?


I did not do that

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Zeus
08/18/19 4:57:18 AM
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HelIWithoutSin posted...
Except he never did in your back and forth exchange.


Except he literally did during a discussion in one of those topics. Keep in mind it was argued in multiple topics that same night.

HelIWithoutSin posted...
And if he did imply it, how does you telling him the very thing he implied make any sense as a rebuttal?


I have no clue what you're trying to ask.

HelIWithoutSin posted...
That's when the word wasn't spoken at all, according to him.


Link to the original article:
https://news.yahoo.com/ronald-reagan-racist-audio-nixon-110547900.html

Reagan makes hyperbolic claims regarding shoes. The racial slur was only part of that larger quote.
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Zeus
08/18/19 4:59:38 AM
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Mead posted...
And why did you changed that something else multiple times when I called you on it in another topic?


I did not do that


Are you insisting that you didn't start by claiming I said "it was just a joke" -- like you falsely claimed here, in full view of the board -- then changing it to other variations not resembling my actual quote? Is that what you're claiming?
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Mead
08/18/19 5:00:43 AM
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The racial slur was the subject of the entire topic. Youre insisting your comment was about a single sentence that no one was even talking about with nothing in your post alluding to anything other than the subject at hand which was him calling African delegates monkeys.

You claim you were referring to the shoes thing as a racist joke. I think thats a lie. But even if that is true, you totally fucked up your post by making it seem like you were summing up the monkeys slur as nothing more than a racist joke.

fair, next

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Mead
08/18/19 5:01:24 AM
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Zeus posted...
Are you insisting that you didn't start by claiming I said "it was just a joke" -- like you falsely claimed here, in full view of the board -- then changing it to other variations not resembling my actual quote? Is that what you're claiming?


Yeah

what are you gonna do about it

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Zeus
08/18/19 5:05:30 AM
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Mead posted...
The racial slur was the subject of the entire topic. Youre insisting your comment was about a single sentence that no one was even talking about with nothing in your post alluding to anything other than the subject at hand which was him calling African delegates monkeys.

You claim you were referring to the shoes thing as a racist joke. I think thats a lie. But even if that is true, you totally fucked up your post by making it seem like you were summing up the monkeys slur as nothing more than a racist joke.

fair, next


More lies and distortions! First Mead lies about the subject of the topic, which was the link I provided. Literally that was ALL that was in the post. That was 100% of its content.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/77904646
Second, my initial criticism directly reflects Reagan's quote in its entirety. Third, and VERY clearly, my second criticism (during which I quoted you and spelled out that it was more than just the slur that was offensive) references SPECIFICALLY the things said after the slur itself to remove any ambiguity.

Do you care to lie again? So far you've lied about what I said. You've lied about what I meant. You've lied about the topic posted. You've lied about the article that topic linked to. Honestly, what's left for you to lie about?
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HelIWithoutSin
08/18/19 5:17:54 AM
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Zeus posted...
Except he literally did during a discussion in one of those topics. Keep in mind it was argued in multiple topics that same night.


His only interactions with you for a full 24 hours were contained in that topic, where you said to him "The only conclusion is that the reviewing mod never clicked the link and took your completely false accusation without question."

A few minutes later, you posted that "someone" implied the mod never read the article.

Also, Reagan's comments on the delegates not wearing shoes were disparaging and condescending remarks, not jokes.
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Mead
08/18/19 5:22:41 AM
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Nothing that Ive said has been a lie Zeus, deal with it

everyone in that topic was talking about Raegan calling people monkeys because thats a known and extremely offensive slur. Meanwhile you think people should have known you were talking about shoes despite saying nothing about that line in your post

Yet the fact that you were modded is some conspiracy that a mod was tricked into. Gimme a break

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Zeus
08/18/19 5:37:51 AM
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HelIWithoutSin posted...
His only interactions with you for a full 24 hours were contained in that topic,


No, they clearly weren't and I'm not sure what would even give you that completely wrong impression.... although I suspect that you know better and are making shit up again.

HelIWithoutSin posted...
A few minutes later, you posted that "someone" implied the mod never read the article.


A few minutes after what? I'm not sure what timeline you're even talking about. Granted, I'm finally going to bed now so that gives you some time to get your story straight and work out a proper lie tying these things together.

HelIWithoutSin posted...
Also, Reagan's comments on the delegates not wearing shoes were disparaging and condescending


Which is why I complained about them.

Mead posted...
Nothing that Ive said has been a lie Zeus, deal with it


Overlooking that you brazenly and irrefutably lied about what I said, considering you posted an image of the actual quote which completely contradicted what you claimed I said. And, you know, your other lies.

Mead posted...
everyone in that topic was talking about Raegan


First off, why do you keep misspelling Reagan? Is this part of a bit you're doing? I'm not sure where you're trying to go with it.

Second, the topic was about the ENTIRETY of that article. I responded to the entirety of those remarks, not just the slur. I made that pretty fucking clear in my post as well, specifically where I quoted you.

Mead posted...
Meanwhile you think people should have known you were talking about shoes despite saying nothing about that line in your post


....you mean except for the part where I *specifically* reference that part? And again, I didn't post Reagan's quote itself BECAUSE it very heavily violated the TOS and because it was already in the article itself. It's absurdly clear that I talking about more than just the slur which you know because it's literally in the part that I respond to you.

Mead posted...

Yet the fact that you were modded is some conspiracy that a mod was tricked into.


No, I said that a false claim was filed. That's not the same thing as a "conspiracy," given that it would only involve ONE person acting maliciously. Granted, other elements *are* more than a little suspicious, including the response time to the moderation when the usual response time around here is lethargic.

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I have no idea why you chose to delete that.
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Mead
08/18/19 5:44:17 AM
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I agree with the mod who modded your post

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HornedLion
08/18/19 5:59:45 AM
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I think he was super racist.

But I cannot judge as I absolutely love casting his spell in Final Fantasy. That 5 HP Per tick helps a lot.
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HelIWithoutSin
08/18/19 6:02:26 AM
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Zeus posted...
No, they clearly weren't and I'm not sure what would even give you that completely wrong impression.... although I suspect that you know better and are making shit up again.


Well, I got that impression by looking up Mead's posting history and reviewing the timestamps and content for the 24 hours leading up to 4:55pm on August 1, 2019, when you said to him "The only conclusion is that the reviewing mod never clicked the link and took your completely false accusation without question."

All of his interactions with you were only in that topic, not multiple ones throughout the night.

Zeus posted...
A few minutes after what? I'm not sure what timeline you're even talking about. Granted, I'm finally going to bed now so that gives you some time to get your story straight and work out a proper lie tying these things together.


A few minutes after that comment to Mead. 6 minutes later, to be exact, in your topic on HellHole, you posted "One poster implied that the reviewing mod didn't click the link to the article containing the remark I criticized".

So, nowhere in that topic did Mead imply the acting mod didn't read the article. But, even if he did, how does saying "The only conclusion is that the reviewing mod never clicked the link and took your completely false accusation without question." as a rebuttal make any sense at all?

Zeus posted...
Which is why I complained about them.


By downplaying his remarks as racists jokes, even though they weren't jokes at all.
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CloudThunder
08/18/19 6:27:53 AM
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yes and theres CONCRETE proof.but hes just like most americans.
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