Poll of the Day > What's the best ammo of these (list is from a game, so some may not be real))

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.50 Conical
.45-70 Government
.405 Generic
.340 Weatherby
.300 Nosler AcuBond
9.3x62 Nosler Partition
9.3x74R Generic
7mm Magnum
8x57 IS Nosler Parition
.50 Lead Generic
.454 Revolver Generic
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if you're genuinely interested in ammunition, this is a great channel:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6QH13V2o68zynSa0hZy9uQ

answer will depend what you're looking for. range, accuracy, penetration, damage, etc. higher caliber will do more damage. rifle rounds will have more penetration, range, and accuracy. hollow tip will do more damage. etc.

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Define best, .50 cal is the biggest/most powerful here.

Cruddy_horse posted...

Define best, .50 cal is the biggest/most powerful here.

In-game this is for the largest available animals... Bison and Bantengs
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Lokarin posted...

Cruddy_horse posted...

Define best, .50 cal is the biggest/most powerful here.

In-game this is for the largest available animals... Bison and Bantengs

Okay but I still don't know what "best" is supposed to mean. Unless that was what you wanted?

Cruddy_horse posted...

Lokarin posted...

Cruddy_horse posted...

Define best, .50 cal is the biggest/most powerful here.

In-game this is for the largest available animals... Bison and Bantengs

Okay but I still don't know what "best" is supposed to mean. Unless that was what you wanted?

Oh, in this context I guess best is "coolest" since, IMHO... a wound is a wound, everything IRL is 1 shot anyways.
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.50 Conical
.45-70 Government
.405 Generic
.340 Weatherby
.300 Nosler AcuBond
9.3x62 Nosler Partition
9.3x74R Generic
7mm Magnum
8x57 IS Nosler Parition
.50 Lead Generic
.454 Revolver Generic

It's all high end rifle rounds with the exception of the .50 conical, and ".50 lead generic" those seem to be muzzle loader rounds. .454 "revolver generic" is probably a .454 Casull which is one of the most powerful handgun rounds around.

The best is really subjective. Since it depends on what your target is and range, and cost of the ammo. Ammunition is never a single answer objective question since it depends on the intended use.

If I had to pick I would probably take the .45-70 Government since I like lever guns.
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Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...

It's all high end rifle rounds with the exception of the .50 conical, and ".50 lead generic" those seem to be muzzle loader rounds. .454 "revolver generic" is probably a .454 Casull which is one of the most powerful handgun rounds around.

In game the .50 conical is for a .50 Inline Muzzleloader rifle, and the .50 Lead is for the Inline Muzzleloader pistol

The .454 revolver is for the "El Toro" and "El Bisonet" which are both big looking revolvers with legally distinguished names :v
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Anyways:

The game prides itself on gun realism, so damage to an animal is based on where it is hit (naturally, like almost any game) with a comparison of Kinetic Energy Vs. either penetration limit or break limit

Here's a chart for the Black Bear

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/thehuntergame/images/4/41/Black_bear_organs.png

Any organ that is penetrated is a sure kill, but if you score a hit that doesn't penetrate (like using birdshot) it will just count as a generic body shot (zone 16).

Any bone that is broken may also result in a kill, but lack of penetration robs you of a hit, dealing much less damage to the general body zone. (such as an anemic round deflecting off a skull)
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lightning rounds

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"Best" is always subjective. Are you looking for stopping power, killing while preserving the meat (as a hunter), or exploding your target into ludicrous gibs? Are you target shooting, shooting at people who are shooting back, shooting at someone wearing a bulletproof vest, or trying to take down vehicles? What's more important to you in a weapon - accuracy, rate of fire, range, force?

The idea is to specify your needs, then choose the best ammo for that particular use. No ammo type is really universal (which is why so many different ammo types exist in the first place, and we haven't just standardized every gun to the same ammo).
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

we haven't just standardized every gun to the same ammo

5.56 is used in almost every infantry role.
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Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...

If I had to pick I would probably take the .45-70 Government since I like lever guns.

Years ago, when I was playing a sniper character in an RPG, I had them use a .30-30. Partly because it's mainly hunting rifle ammunition, and there are (or were) a lot of places in the US where you can carry a hunting rifle without requiring a full permit (it ironically draws less attention than a pistol would), but partly so I could make jokes about the character having 30-30 vision.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...

If I had to pick I would probably take the .45-70 Government since I like lever guns.

Years ago, when I was playing a sniper character in an RPG, I had them use a .30-30. Partly because it's mainly hunting rifle ammunition, and there are (or were) a lot of places in the US where you can carry a hunting rifle without requiring a full permit (it ironically draws less attention than a pistol would), but partly so I could make jokes about the character having 30-30 vision.

A 30-30 wouldn't be the best kind of round for being a sniper. A 30-06 or a .308 would've been a better choice since both are commonly used in hunting, and have a military history.

But anyway, what was the RPG?
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Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...

A 30-30 wouldn't be the best kind of round for being a sniper. A 30-06 or a .308 would've been a better choice since both are commonly used in hunting, and have a military history.

I know, but the "30-30 vision" joke as a play on "20-20 vision" doesn't really work with .30-06.

The character's nickname was "30-30" - it was more or less the core idea I built the character from. Without that joke the character probably wouldn't have existed at all.



Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...

But anyway, what was the RPG?

Vampire: the Masquerade. The character was a demon-hunter Ventrue antitribu member of the Sabbat Inquisition. The trick was that she was the most combat-focused member of the group she was part of, in spite of the fact that she was a short Japanese girl.

That whole group was basically designed to be incredibly deceiving - one of the other major members was a guy who came across like pick-up artist/used car salesman and who was sort of based on Face from the A-Team, but who was also a potent blood magician (I think he was Tremere antitribu if I remember correctly). The idea was that they deliberately cultivated the image of being completely unthreatening, and then they'd straight up murder you.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

The idea was that they deliberately cultivated the image of being completely unthreatening, and then they'd straight up murder you.

Isn't that the whole point of the Masquerade? To not draw attention?
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Are you looking for stopping power, killing while preserving the meat (as a hunter), or exploding your target into ludicrous gibs?

It's all trophy hunting, so you lose points the more damaged the trophy would be (such as exploding the head), and you also have an 'ethics' rating so you rapidly lose points the longer the animal suffers after the initial hit.

So, for perfect score - you want a heart penetration (not just a hit, the game uses Kinetic Energy as a value) with the smallest caliber (trophy value) bullet and also being as close to an instant kill as possible.
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Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...

Isn't that the whole point of the Masquerade? To not draw attention?

The Sabbat don't follow the Masquerade. They're the "Fuck you, we're the alpha predators bitch" vampires. They revel in their inhumanity and exalt the idea of vampires as the next step in human evolution (basically, they're the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants to the Camarilla's X-Men).

Of course, they then proceed to hide themselves from humans for "tactical reasons" or for any number of other reasons, so even in-universe the Sabbat is sort of hypocritical and blind to its own faults. Like hating on the Camarilla because it's a collective of yes-men young vampires being ordered around and manipulated by their elders, whereas the Sabbat is a paragon of freedom and equality and meritocracy... where most of the positions of power are held by elders, while the younger vampires are mostly kept in line via manipulation and being ordered around.

The Inquisition doesn't really care about the politics or ideology, though. Their whole mindset is "The biggest threat to the Sabbat is Infernal corruption, so we're going to hunt down all of the Infernalists and murder them, and put down whatever demons they've called up." They're half investigators and half hit-squad (sort of think of the hunters in Supernatural), who generally travel from town to town, prying into secrets and unearthing all the nasty goings on (again, sort of think of the hunters in Supernatural).

But the idea for our group wasn't to avoid drawing attention, it was to look weak and ineffectual, so Infernalists wouldn't immediately go to ground, hide, or run away when an investigation started. They'd just assume they could outsmart or kill them, so they'd be more arrogant and apt to make mistakes. Sort of like the Columbo method of investigation, where you act like a complete idiot and trap the suspect into giving themselves away.
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I'll use an example for a different animal...

If I'm hunting feral boar with a single breach loader shotgun (12ga Slug is the only available ammo in this example)...

Feral boars have an awesome sense of smell, so they're exceptionally hard to sneak up on... so a shot would have to be taken from 75~100m away... which doesn't offer a lot of accuracy or penetration.

I could buy scent masks or a smoke-mister for wind direction detection, but those cost real money (freemium :v)
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Blue-greenish psychically launched magical spears.

And/or whatever it is that Gaster Blasters fire.
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