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CedarPointcp 07/26/19 2:02:41 PM #1: |
this happens all the time, many pro life politicians will vote to make it harder form women to get abortions but at the same time will vote... - Results (5 votes)
yes, wrong
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no
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Questionmarktarius 07/26/19 2:06:44 PM #2: |
It's not about "right and wrong", but a politician's own sense of righteousness.
The operating theory is that banning abortion and cutting early-childhood entitlements will somehow magically end fornication. Good luck with that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CedarPointcp 07/26/19 2:07:27 PM #3: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
It's not about "right and wrong", but a politician's own sense of righteousness. yeah no shit, like it will magically end fornication --- "Ah, you most likely know it as Myanmar but it'll always be Burma to me" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CedarPointcp 07/27/19 8:31:35 AM #4: |
bump
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EndOfDiscOne 07/27/19 8:34:31 AM #5: |
Its wrong, but not as hypocritical as the gotcha crowd on the left makes it out to be
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pegusus123456 07/27/19 8:37:52 AM #6: |
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Its wrong, but not as hypocritical as the gotcha crowd on the left makes it out to be I mean It's exactly as hypocritical as they/we make it out to be --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kami_no_Kami 07/27/19 8:39:41 AM #7: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
It's not about "right and wrong", but a politician's own sense of righteousness. Moral right and wrong is all subjective. If we think of wrong in terms of meaning incorrect however, I would say that the idea that anything is going to stop people from fornicating is absolutely wrong as are any decisions based on this idea. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 07/27/19 8:43:02 AM #8: |
I think it's wrong when anti-choice politicians vote, period
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emblem boy 07/27/19 8:46:19 AM #9: |
Isn't a part of it also that they fundamentally don't think those programs are good for people.
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Southernfatman 07/27/19 8:48:24 AM #10: |
It shows they're more pro-birth than anything. They're usually against sex education and letting condoms/BC be accessible to minors, which would be a good way to nip some problems in the bud, but no...
Most of these "pro lifer" politicians are scheming, opportunist politicians trying to win over the religious vote anyway. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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karlpilkington4 07/27/19 8:51:11 AM #11: |
emblem boy posted...
Isn't a part of it also that they fundamentally don't think those programs are good for people. Nah, couldnt be. Those programs work great... --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EndOfDiscOne 07/27/19 11:00:05 AM #12: |
pegusus123456 posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...Its wrong, but not as hypocritical as the gotcha crowd on the left makes it out to be Its not. Pro lifers are trying to prevent murder, plain and simple. Yes future abortions can be cut down if there is better child care early on, but its not a direct logical contradiction. --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna COMBINED! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 07/27/19 12:04:06 PM #13: |
Every fetus deserves a chance to live!
But if its parents are too poor to support its life after birth, fuck it! Should have chosen to be born into a better life! --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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karlpilkington4 07/27/19 12:05:31 PM #14: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Every fetus deserves a chance to live! Maybe they shouldn't have unprotected sex, or simply use adoption services. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 07/27/19 12:08:41 PM #16: |
karlpilkington4 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...Every fetus deserves a chance to live! So a child needs to pay for the sins of the parents? A child is a punishment? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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karlpilkington4 07/27/19 12:11:25 PM #17: |
hockeybub89 posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...hockeybub89 posted...Every fetus deserves a chance to live! This is an interesting strawman. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jborgan 07/27/19 12:13:20 PM #18: |
EndOfDiscOne posted...
pegusus123456 posted...EndOfDiscOne posted...Its wrong, but not as hypocritical as the gotcha crowd on the left makes it out to be Sex education, access to contraceptives, birth control, and the right to have an abortion reduces the number of abortions in the long run. If they didn't have such a black and white view, they could accomplish exactly what they wanted. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 07/27/19 12:17:41 PM #19: |
karlpilkington4 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...karlpilkington4 posted...hockeybub89 posted...Every fetus deserves a chance to live! What strawman? We don't want children to be killed due to the irresponsibility of their parents, but we're ok with them starving and struggling due to the irresponsibility of their parents? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 07/27/19 12:18:58 PM #20: |
jborgan posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...pegusus123456 posted...EndOfDiscOne posted...Its wrong, but not as hypocritical as the gotcha crowd on the left makes it out to be "We want to prevent baby murder! Let's make it harder to prevent situations where someone might consider baby murder!" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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karlpilkington4 07/27/19 12:21:10 PM #21: |
hockeybub89 posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...hockeybub89 posted...karlpilkington4 posted...hockeybub89 posted...Every fetus deserves a chance to live! Adoption --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 07/27/19 12:26:13 PM #22: |
karlpilkington4 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...karlpilkington4 posted...hockeybub89 posted...karlpilkington4 posted...hockeybub89 posted...Every fetus deserves a chance to live! Are we going to force all poor and otherwise irresponsible parents (deemed by who exactly?) to give up their children? Or are kids just fucked if their parents want to keep them? Don't tell me what the parents should have done before the kid was born. Tell me what we should do with these kids who according to pro-lifers shouldn't suffer for the poor decisions of their parents --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hicks233 07/27/19 12:28:00 PM #23: |
Unfortunately it's mostly right.
If they were willing to support legislation that looked after, developed and provided a safety net for those children as they grew into adults then they wouldn't look like such fucking mongs, but the attitude of life mattering only until they have been born - then fuck them, doesn't do them any favours. It's an irritating split where, for in the most cases in the US, if you want someone to advocate for social support for people you'd look to: what are supposed to be Democrats [fuck knows what they are now??], but if you wanted a pro-life stance so that the kid is born in the first place then you'd look at what is [supposed] to be Republican. On top of this, there are big problems with disproportionate abortion rates of Black children, but neither party seems to give a shit about that. It needs both to co-operate to prevent lives being needlessly ended and to have a safety net and security in life once they're born. --- http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/index.php?boardid=9458 So says Mr. Stewart. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bkkorps 07/27/19 12:46:26 PM #24: |
jborgan posted...
lets be real, their current position is what they want. they dont want really want to stop the "killing of babies", they want to control women. the babies thing is just a happy side dish to the main course. --- Minnesota is like having sex in The Boundary Waters. ****ing close to Canada. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EndOfDiscOne 07/27/19 12:54:31 PM #25: |
shockthemonkey posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...pegusus123456 posted...EndOfDiscOne posted...Its wrong, but not as hypocritical as the gotcha crowd on the left makes it out to be Because its not an unchallengeable fact that improving child conditions prevents abortions in the future. I believe it does, but it directly doesnt contradict the pro lifer logic. --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna COMBINED! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Evening_Dragon 07/27/19 12:57:24 PM #26: |
karlpilkington4 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...Every fetus deserves a chance to live! You realize this topic is about preventing people from getting contraceptives while also not letting the abort? --- I exist, kind of. Two halves that don't make a whole. Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deadpool_18 07/27/19 2:28:02 PM #28: |
I think its wrong to be pro life.
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Shablagoo 07/27/19 2:30:15 PM #29: |
hmmmmmmm
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Smashingpmkns 07/27/19 2:32:26 PM #30: |
Pro death penalty, pro life.
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TomNook20 07/27/19 2:32:31 PM #31: |
They're just pandering to religious people. The politicians themselves generally don't follow any religious teachings, if they did they wouldn't be politicians.
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Antifar 07/27/19 2:35:55 PM #32: |
I think it's wrong when anybody does it
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Kami_no_Kami 07/27/19 8:57:54 PM #33: |
karlpilkington4 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...Every fetus deserves a chance to live! So we need to stop teenagers from making bad decisions, stop people from having sex or force all women to carry their pregnancies to term and then transfer the result of that pregnancy into the already horribly clogged adoption system. All great ideas... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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