Board 8 > Big Brother/Survivor Summer Topic 2 - Frickin' Khal Drogo

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wtf with the shoes thats so wtf

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Her arc was perfect
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there is nothing redeeming about her character

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She's comical with the shoes, and goes on a growth arc as she learns to be a confident strategist. She's a great character. It's her and Jane...top two for the season.
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y'all drinking the koolaid

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Holly wins if Fabio doesn't go on his run, right? Or did the jury say that they'd vote Chase there? (As an aside, I wonder what Dan would do in a Holly/Chase/Sash Final 3?)

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It's amazing how the woman who shreds Dan's $1500 shoes turns into the person lecturing Purple Kelly with "You started, you're finishing." A brilliant growth arc.
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Inviso posted...

It's her and Jane...top two for the season.

Nah, Jane is terrible.
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Underleveled posted...

Inviso posted...

It's her and Jane...top two for the season.

Nah, Jane is terrible.

Jane is PI Rupert.
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BlueCrystalTear posted...

It's amazing how the woman who shreds Dan's $1500 shoes turns into the person lecturing Purple Kelly with "You started, you're finishing." A brilliant growth arc.

editing got you good. I saw it as her being all cocky and high and mighty acting like shes better than them

when she fucking ruined dans shoes

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I saw it as her losing her mind while having some sort of superiority complex. She found her mind and got humbled after all of that, however, and exited the game having grown. (The question is... how long did that last? IDK, but what matters is the story arc on the show, right?)
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Reminder:
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Here we go

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omg analyse

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BB feeds update (includes Veto winner): Michie won Veto and kept his noms the same. There was absolutely nothing going on until Nick and Christie got into a big fight last night. This may actually be of benefit to her if Michie/Holly decide that her target would be Nick and not either of them. Holly realizes that Christie is a manipulator while Sis is just a follower, but she wants Nick out also. Could go either way at this point.
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Tommy suuuuuuuuuuucks.
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One thing Ill say: this season was ROUGH through five weeks of pre-jury, but it has gotten SO much better, especially since things started breaking down during Nicks HoH week.

It also helps that the cast, as a whole, is SO deeply flawed that I dont have a vested interest in any particular player, which allows me to enjoy the season far more than watching FOUTTE get decimated by an awful, awful, boring alliance of rational gamebots last season.

That being said, I still HATE Nick and Tommy, and I want all game moves that hurt their weasel games to go down.
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This season is wishing it were BB15. That season was a comeuppance-fest for a bunch of assholes, and it was absolutely delightful to watch them all blow each other to bits. This season... it's good, but not as consistently dramatic.
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Nick and Tommy for F2 imo. They're so cute together :3
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This season could get even better with the direction it's going. The feeds are way better than BB20 at this point, just need to maintain the momentum. BB20 had amazing pre-jury feeds/moments, but it died around now, if not a week before (Rockstar's eviction).
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BAHAHAHA!

Get to steppin', Uselyse!
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After Jackass got evicted this season has surprisingly improved by a lot. Loving the constant power shifts.
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can I just say

I'm pretty mad that we can't vote for Holly to have the power just so it ends up doing nothing.
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BlueCrystalTear posted...

can I just say

I'm pretty mad that we can't vote for Holly to have the power just so it ends up doing nothing.

You can vote Jackson.
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That's what I'm doing lol
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@Underleveled Ive started putting my list together for FY20. Just need to wait for BB21 to get closer to the end before I slot them in.
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I have them tentatively insertedand a few have already changed since placing them. I have also done a few write ups, including a particularly long one for someone who (somehow) isn't even at the bottom of my list (for now).
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I'd do rankings myself but that's a lot of people to rank >_>

US only...
20 in David vs. Goliath
12 in CBBUS2
18 in Edge of Extinction
11 teams in TAR31
16 in Big Brother 21
Total: 77 (88 if TAR teams are separated)

If we count the Internationals...
15 in BBCAN7
21 in Survivor SA
24 in Australian Survivor
Total: 137 (148 if TAR teams are separated)

I presume we're keeping it to the first half only.
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__LeiaRolando__ posted...

I'd do rankings myself but that's a lot of people to rank >_>

US only...
20 in David vs. Goliath
12 in CBBUS2
18 in Edge of Extinction
11 teams in TAR31
16 in Big Brother 21
Total: 77 (88 if TAR teams are separated)

If we count the Internationals...
15 in BBCAN7
21 in Survivor SA
24 in Australian Survivor
Total: 137 (148 if TAR teams are separated)

I presume we're keeping it to the first half only.

Yeah. First half.
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Thanks. Do I do teams or individuals in TAR? I might submit a list if I have the time/desire but the write-ups are going to be short >_>
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Teams
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Alright, thanks.

BB Prankster spoilers: Scumbag Nick won the Prankster. WHY? Fucking casuals, not realizing he's the most unlikable person in the house.
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__LeiaRolando__ posted...

BB Prankster spoilers: Scumbag Nick won the Prankster. WHY? Fucking casuals, not realizing he's the most unlikable person in the house.

Ouch.
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__LeiaRolando__ posted...

20 in David vs. Goliath
12 in CBBUS2
18 in Edge of Extinction
11 teams in TAR31
16 in Big Brother 21
Total: 77

This. I was considering watching Love Island to rank those too since it's coming back next year but I can't put forth the effort.
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Underleveled posted...

__LeiaRolando__ posted...

20 in David vs. Goliath
12 in CBBUS2
18 in Edge of Extinction
11 teams in TAR31
16 in Big Brother 21
Total: 77

This. I was considering watching Love Island to rank those two since it's coming back next year but I can't put forth the effort.

Dating shows are dumb and I will never count them >_>
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Also I just remembered that I never posted a list for 2016-17 (MvGX, GC, TAR29, and BB19) so I will try to do that tonight. It will reflect my opinions now, which have changed a bit with digestion and rewatches, but my #1 and #67 (bottom) have not budged.

And shit, since it's not like I'm gonna be doing a real countdown with it...

1. Brooke & Scott
67. Paul
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__LeiaRolando__ posted...

Alright, thanks.

BB Prankster spoilers: Scumbag Nick won the Prankster. WHY? Fucking casuals, not realizing he's the most unlikable person in the house.

America just really hates Christie.
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Underleveled posted...

67. Paul

what

#67 can only be one person and that's Jeff Varner
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Nah. He wasn't even the worst player IN HIS SEASON until that abomination of a reunion show performance where he tried to paint himself as the biggest victim of the whole ordeal.
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i'm professional baseball player jeff kent
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Just a list, not doing write-ups because we're too far removed, but this is my list of competitors from the FY18 CBS reality show line-up.

1.Sandra Diaz-Twine (Survivor: Game Changers 15th Place)
2.Brooke & Scott (The Amazing Race 29 1st Place)
3.James J.T. Thomas, Jr. (Survivor: Game Changers 16th Place)
4.Michaela Bradshaw (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X 14th Place)
5.Cody Nickson (Big Brother 19 11th Place)
6.Debbie Wanner (Survivor: Game Changers 11th Place)
7.Taylor Lee Stocker (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X 12th Place)
8.Michaela Bradshaw (Survivor: Game Changers 7th Place)
9.Tony Vlachos (Survivor: Game Changers 19th Place)
10.Cirie Fields (Survivor: Game Changers 6th Place)
11.Vanck & Ashton (The Amazing Race 29 7th Place)
12.Tai Trang (Survivor: Game Changers 4th Place)
13.Hannah Shapiro (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X 3rd Place)
14.Becca & Floyd (The Amazing Race 29 5th Place)
15.Mark Jansen (Big Brother 19 9th Place)
16.Jessica Figgy Figueroa (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X 15th Place)
17.David Wright (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X 4th Place)
18.Dominique Cooper (Big Brother 19 14th Place)
19.Shamir & Sara (The Amazing Race 29 8th Place)
20.Josh Martinez (Big Brother 19 1st Place)
21.Kevin Schlehuber (Big Brother 19 4th Place)
22.Lucy Huang (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X 17th Place)
23.Kevin & Jenn (The Amazing Race 29 11th Place)
24.Jason Dent (Big Brother 19 7th Place)
25.Liz & Michael (The Amazing Race 29 6th Place)
26.Tara & Joey (The Amazing Race 29 2nd Place)
27.Jay Starrett (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X 9th Place)
28.Andrea Boehlke (Survivor: Game Changers 8th Place)
29.London & Logan (The Amazing Race 29 3rd Place)
30.Megan Lowder (Big Brother 19 16th Place)
31.Jessica Graf (Big Brother 19 12th Place)
32.Brad Culpepper (Survivor: Game Changers 2nd Place)
33.Elena Davies (Big Brother 19 10th Place)
34.Hali Ford (Survivor: Game Changers 13th Place)
35.Jessie & Francesca (The Amazing Race 29 10th Place)
36.Mari Takahashi (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X 19th Place)
37.Aubry Bracco (Survivor: Game Changers 5th Place)
38.Jessica Lewis (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X 10th Place)
39.Malcolm Freburg (Survivor: Game Changers 17th Place)
40.Ciera Eastin (Survivor: Game Changers 20th Place)
41.Seth & Olive (The Amazing Race 29 9th Place)
42.Will Wahl (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X 8th Place)
43.Sierra Dawn Thomas (Survivor: Game Changers 9th Place)
44.Ozzy Lusth (Survivor: Game Changers 12th Place)
45.Zeke Smith (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X 9th Place)
46.Bret LaBelle (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X 5th Place)
47.Michelle Schubert (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X 13th Place)
48.Rachel Ako (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X 20th Place)
49.Jillian Parker (Big Brother 19 15th Place)
50.Cameron Heard (Big Brother 19 17th Place)
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51.Troy Troyzan Robertson (Survivor: Game Changers 3rd Place)
52.Ramses Soto (Big Brother 19 13th Place)
53.Ken McNickle (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X 2nd Place)
54.Sunday Burquest (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X 7th Place)
55.Ciandre CeCe Taylor (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X 16th Place)
56.Paul Wachter (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X 18th Place)
57.Alex Ow (Big Brother 19 5th Place)
58.Caleb Reynolds (Survivor: Game Changers 18th Place)
59.Chris Hammons (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X 11th Place)
60.Adam Klein (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X 1st Place)
61.Raven Walton (Big Brother 19 6th Place)
62.Matt & Redmond (The Amazing Race 29 4th Place)
63.Sarah Lacina (Survivor: Game Changers 1st Place)
64.Zeke Smith (Survivor: Game Changers 10th Place)
65.Christmas Abbott (Big Brother 19 3rd Place)
66.Matt Clines (Big Brother 19 8th Place)
67.Jeff Varner (Survivor: Game Changers 14th Place)
68.Paul Abrahamian (Big Brother 19 2nd Place)
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I mean, yeah, Paul ruined BB19, but what Varner did was downright horrible, and the rest of Lame Changers afterward was soulless. Paul was awful, but him losing in the end made it so he's not as bad as Varner. He gave himself a comeuppance. Varner continues to see himself as a victim.

Also Raven way too low - she was amazing to mock.
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Game Changers was going to be bad regardless of what he did since Sandra was the last person left keeping that season afloat, and she was gone before then.
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1. Paul not only ruined BB19 and made it boring, but he did it by being one of the most vile and despicable bullies I've ever seen on the show. Yeah, he lost in the end, but he was ONE vote from being rewarded for his behavior, and there's enough of the online fan base that hate the way he lost after running the show, that it pisses me off.

2. Up until his obnoxious and self-serving reunion performance, I didn't actually consider Jeff Varner the worst character of Game Changers. Yeah, he was fucking terrible and would be bottom three for the season, but I never actually liked Varner in Australia or Cambodia. Both times, he came across as a smug dickhead trying to play himself up as a Richard Hatch-esque mastermind, forgoing any humanity or personality in the process. His boot in Game Changers showed humanity and personality, and made him come across as a real person for the first time in 33 seasons. Plus, despite how despicable the moment itself was, it was also one of the rawest and realest moments we'd seen in a long time, in a TV series that had become extremely bland and robotic in its focus on strategy. So I gave Varner SLIGHT credit for that. Not after the reunion though.

3. Game Changers was, just like HHH and DvG, a GOOD season, right up until the last two or three episodes. It was interesting, there was personality and characterization, and even when things started to cool down with the Zeke/Sierra boots, at least they were getting rid of dud casting choices. It was only the final two episodes being jam-packed with poor editing and advantages that fucked it up.

4. Raven WOULD have been amusing to mock if she wasn't involved in an obnoxious power alliance that enabled her delusions for far too long. Plus, unlike Alex and Jason, who saw the light, Raven continued blindly praising Paul even after she got voted out by his hand.
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At first I was like how did you get 68, I only counted 67. But I forgot BB19 had 17 people.
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Underleveled posted...

At first I was like how did you get 68, I only counted 67. But I forgot BB19 had 17 people.

Yeah, BB19 is dumb for SO many reasons.
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Okay, this was a fairly quick make-up so the middle is probably pretty fuzzy but it's a good representation.

S33/34, TAR29, BB19:

[I can't believe if you fucking C&P a numbered list from Google Docs it doesn't copy the numbers]

1. Brooke & Scott (Amazing Race 29, 1st place)
2. Sandra Diaz-Twine (Survivor: Game Changers, 15th place)
3. Tony Vlachos (Survivor: Game Changers, 19th place)
4. Debbie Wanner (Survivor: Game Changers, 11th place)
5. Cody Nickson (Big Brother 19, 11th place)
6. Michaela Bradshaw (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X, 14th place)
7. Tai Trang (Survivor: Game Changers, 4th place)
8. Jay Starrett (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X, 6th place)
9. Vanck & Ashton (Amazing Race 29, 7th place)
10. Taylor Stocker (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X, 12th place)
11. Mark Jansen (Big Brother 19, 9th place)
12. Cirie Fields (Survivor: Game Changers, 6th place)
13. Josh Martinez (Big Brother 19, 1st place)
14. Elena Davies (Big Brother 19, 10th place)
15. David Wright (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X, 4th place)
16. Liz & Michael (Amazing Race 29, 6th place)
17. Michaela Bradshaw (Survivor: Game Changers, 7th place)
18. Hannah Shapiro (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X, t2nd place)
19. Becca & Floyd (Amazing Race 29, 5th place)
20. Jessica Graf (Big Brother 19, 12th place)
21. Tara & Joey (Amazing Race 29, 2nd place)
22. Kevin Schlehuber (Big Brother 19, 4th place)
23. Jessie & Francesca (Amazing Race 29, 10th place)
24. Kevin & Jenn (Amazing Race 29, 11th place)
25. Lucy Huang (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X, 17th place)
26. Christmas Abbott (Big Brother 19, 3rd place)
27. Adam Klein (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X, 1st place)
28. Andrea Boehlke (Survivor: Game Changers, 8th place)
29. Dominique Cooper (Big Brother 19, 14th place)
30. Bret LaBelle (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X, 5th place)
31. Jason Dent (Big Brother 19, 7th place)
32. Brad Culpepper (Survivor: Game Changers, 2nd place)
33. James "J.T." Thomas, Jr. (Survivor: Game Changers, 16th place)
34. Will Wahl (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X, 8th place)
35. Jessica Lewis (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X, 10th place)
36. Megan Lowder (Big Brother 19, 16th place)
37. Mari Takahashi (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X, 19th place)
38. London & Logan (Amazing Race 29, 3rd place)
39. Malcolm Freberg (Survivor: Game Changers, 17th place)
40. Zeke Smith (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X, 9th place)
41. Aubry Bracco (Survivor: Game Changers, 5th place)
42. Rachel Ako (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X, 20th place)
43. Ken McNickle (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X, t2nd place)
44. Chris Hammons (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X, 11th place)
45. Troy "Troyzan" Robertson (Survivor: Game Changers, 3rd place)
46. Sierra Thomas (Survivor: Game Changers, 9th place)
47. Sunday Burquest (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X, 7th place)
48. Ozzy Lusth (Survivor: Game Changers, 12th place)
49. Shamir & Sara (Amazing Race 29, 8th place)
50. Jillian Parker (Big Brother 19, 15th place)
51. Ciera Eastin (Survivor: Game Changers, 20th place)
52. Ramses Soto (Big Brother 19, 13th place)
53. Hali Ford (Survivor: Game Changers, 13th place)
54. Michelle Schubert (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X, 13th place)
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55. Cameron Heard (Big Brother 19, 17th place)
56. Alex Ow (Big Brother 19, 5th place)
57. Caleb Reynolds (Survivor: Game Changers, 18th place)
58. CeCe Taylor (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X, 16th place)
59. Paul Wachter (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X, 18th place)
60. Jessica "Figgy" Figueroa (Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X, 15th place)
61. Seth & Olive (Amazing Race 29, 9th place)
62. Zeke Smith (Survivor: Game Changers, 10th place)
63. Sarah Lacina (Survivor: Game Changers, 1st place)
64. Raven Walton (Big Brother 19, 6th place)
65. Matt Clines (Big Brother 19, 8th place)
66. Matt & Redmond (Amazing Race 29, 4th place)
67. Jeff Varner (Survivor: Game Changers, 14th place)
68. Paul Abrahamian (Big Brother 19, 2nd place)
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Last chance guys

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