Board 8 > 20 y/o ASIAN Trump Supporter is STRIPPED of her CROWN for her RACIST TWEETS!!!!

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20 y/o Conservative Heifer, Kathy Zhu was STRIPPED of her crown and was dismissed from the Miss World America Pageant after her racist tweets were unveiled where she tweeed "black on black" gun violence and "refusing to try on a hijab" that were deemed offensive, insensitive and inappropriate

The Political Commentator said she got an email from pageant organizers that she was dumped from the contest after winning Miss Michigan and those tweets were in violation of MWA rules and conditions as she denies she's racist

She was instructed to remove any mentions or pics of herself representing Miss World America as she tweeted she was accused of being racist, Islamaphobic and insensitive.

The Donald Trump fan said "I have seen this happen before. It is just not okay to be prejudiced against people who have a different political view as you"

She claimed she was dumped for one of her tweets in 2018 when it was World Hijab Day she opted not to try on the hijab who said "So you're telling me that it's now just a fashion accessory and not a religious thing? Or are you just trying ot get women used to being oppressed under Islam?"

But the second tweet she wrote "Did you know that the majority of black deaths are caused by other blacks? Fix problems within your own community before blaming our strong and committed police force. you get what you deserve"

Both were deleted by Zhu after they went viral....

She said the sentiment was applied to "every community" and that people needed to fix their own communities before blaming police officers which is in response to the black lives matter protests.

But she claims she has "no problem" with black people as she uses STATISTICS to back up her claims

Kathy says Miss World America is not letting conservatives represent their own views as she believes in a strong america, a border wall and lower taxes as she was raised to be "independent" and not to rely on handouts. She also opposes free healthcare for all because it is the INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY to be COVERED!!

Conservative Pricks, Joy Villa and Jack Psobiec showed support for Kathy who said "Another MAGAphobic organization.

Is Kathy Hot?

Kathy - Stripped




















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*say racist shit*
*play the victim*
*become/continue to be a conservative commentator*

Yup, she's set for a while.
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She didn't say anything racist tho
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what the fuck is miss world america
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MZero11 posted...

She didn't say anything racist tho

Full Throttle posted...

Fix problems within your own community before blaming our strong and committed police force. you get what you deserve

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Grimlyn posted...

MZero11 posted...

She didn't say anything racist tho

Full Throttle posted...

Fix problems within your own community before blaming our strong and committed police force. you get what you deserve

yeah it's a dumb argument but not racist. No community is without problems, and acknowledging a problem doesn't make you racist
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That is very much not "acknowledging a problem" as it is nonchalant twisting stats on a complex and serious issue onto the feet of minorities in an effort solely to group, dismiss, and dehumanize them. "The majority of black deaths are caused by other blacks" is a dangerously misleading statement that doesn't at all attempt to explain any understanding behind the facts being abused such as socioeconomic segregation. Instead they leave a canyon of information for the listener to fill in. This is a common tactic of racism to spread incomplete information to promote twisted conclusions.

Statements aren't just made within a magical vacuum that erases all context, you can make a statement racist by its framing and those are not comments of someone who is legitimately seeking or concerned with solutions to black on black crime.

"you get what you deserve" is an extra massive cherry on top to underline how utterly indefensible the tweet is.
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Nothing surprising here. She did nothing wrong, but the other side can't stand for her having political views different than their own and took advantage of the power they held over her.

If this was reversed, this would be about how conservatives are trying to assert power over women and not allow them to come to their own opinions and state them. Anti-feminist. Etc.

Instead, since it was a conservative, liberals (like Full Throttle) will try and say how it was deserved even though it clearly wasn't with the provided quotes.

This is happening way too much anymore.

You have people talking about punching conservatives as if it isn't illegal. Refusing to serve them in restaurants and bars. Media hit jobs against ordinary conservative kids. This is happening non-stop.
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Racism isn't just a "different political view"
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Racism isn't just a "different political view"

It is now when you are equating non-racist acts to people being racist just because their views don't agree with your own.
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Corrik7 posted...

LordoftheMorons posted...

Racism isn't just a "different political view"

It is now when you are equating non-racist acts to people being racist just because their views don't agree with your own.

Good thing that doesn't apply here since the woman said blatantly racist things. Maybe when it's just simply differing opinions it might be applicable.
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TheRock1525 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

LordoftheMorons posted...

Racism isn't just a "different political view"

It is now when you are equating non-racist acts to people being racist just because their views don't agree with your own.

Good thing that doesn't apply here since the woman said blatantly racist things. Maybe when it's just simply differing opinions it might be applicable.

Literally nothing she said there is racist. At all. You could argue they are bad takes and lack empathy in the Black on Black violence argument. You can't argue it was racism. I mean, you can, but you would simply be wrong.
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Though I shouldn't be the one to point out that Full Throttle deemed the tweets "racist". She was removed for "insensitive and inappropriate" comments. Which they were. Don't think it really meets the bar for removal, but that is not on me to decide.
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Corrik7 posted...

Literally nothing she said there is racist.

"Islam in America will oppress women" despite all evidence to the contrary (hell Muslims in the US are more tolerant to diversity, gay marriage, abortions, etc. than Evangrlical Christians in the US) is racist.

Harping on black on black crime as an excuse for shitty police while ignoring most whites are killed by other white people is racist, too. Hell most asians are killed by, you guessed it, asians but she didn't feel the need to tweet out "they get what they deserve" about that group. Wonder why...
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TheRock1525 posted...

Harping on black on black crime as an excuse for shitty police while ignoring most whites are killed by other white people is racist, too. Hell most asians are killed by, you guessed it, asians but she didn't feel the need to tweet out "they get what they deserve" about that group. Wonder why...

Because she is obviously responding to the asserted argument that Police kill the most African-Americans. She can't respond to the arguments of Asians or whites killing each other because the argument that it isn't their fault but systemic oppression isn't an argument that is made. If anything, that goes into her point that those groups in America don't seem to be blaming their own violence on other reasonings.

Her hijab comment seems to say she believes that the accessory is a religious one and should be worn by those who are members of that religion. If she is wrong on that point, then she may be ill informed. She then states how that she doesn't wish to wear one because she believes it would signify her support of the religion that in other countries oppress women and suppress their rights.

Basically, she appears to be saying that by wearing a Hijab that she feels she would be supporting oppression of women that happens in Middle Eastern countries that many have been talking out against (asking then to ban events in those countries due to women oppression and so on).

She has a choice whether or not she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. Just because she chose not to doesn't make her something. Just because she spoke out against Islam treatment of women in the implied countries it is going on in, doesn't make her something. If anything, it is a feminist argument at the core that attacks treatment of women in countries that are Islamic.

Unless there are other quotes missing, nothing here looks racist. This is a Full Throttle topic though, so who knows what else might actually be out there.

Edit: and she didn't say "Islam in America will oppress women" unless I am missing it. So you are twisting her argument. Her argument is that she doesn't want to wear a Hijab because she feels it symbolizes oppression of women.
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Corrik7 posted...

You have people talking about punching conservatives as if it isn't illegal. Refusing to serve them in restaurants and bars. Media hit jobs against ordinary conservative kids. This is happening non-stop.

Remind me again, how many deaths in the US have been caused by extreme leftists? Now, the number for extreme rightists?

Quite the gulf there.
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I really only came in here to say that FT's usage of "stripped" was masterful
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Peace___Frog posted...

Corrik7 posted...

You have people talking about punching conservatives as if it isn't illegal. Refusing to serve them in restaurants and bars. Media hit jobs against ordinary conservative kids. This is happening non-stop.

Remind me again, how many deaths in the US have been caused by extreme leftists? Now, the number for extreme rightists?

Quite the gulf there.

I don't know. You tell me.
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This is why I oppose SJW scum: They oppose free speech.
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I think looking at an individual's skin color and then saying they deserve unfair treatment by police because of said skin color pretty easily falls under the category of racism
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I get that it's not immediately obvious to some people that it is. People are born ignorant and learn things over time

But if a private company wants to dump you as a public representative for it that is certainly within their rights and quite possibly to be expected
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banananor posted...

I think looking at an individual's skin color and then saying they deserve unfair treatment by police because of said skin color pretty easily falls under the category of racism

I think that would. However, that is definitely not what was said at all either.
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Corrik7 posted...

However, that is definitely not what was said at all either.

It was exactly what was said, ya knob.

Why single out black on black crime unless you're saying "black people deserve what happens to them" when it's literally true about every single other race in America?
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Arent conservative commentators usually the ones who want celebrities to shut up about politics?
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Corrik7 posted...

banananor posted...

I think looking at an individual's skin color and then saying they deserve unfair treatment by police because of said skin color pretty easily falls under the category of racism

I think that would. However, that is definitely not what was said at all either.

Corrik

In response to people unhappy with racial profiling (aka unfair treatment by police) she said

Fix problems within your own community before blaming our strong and committed police force. you get what you deserve

What exactly do you think this quote is and means?

She literally says "you deserve racial profiling because people with the same skin color as you are XYZ"

I'm hoping that this can be a teachable moment
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TheRock1525 posted...

"Islam in America will oppress women" despite all evidence to the contrary (hell Muslims in the US are more tolerant to diversity, gay marriage, abortions, etc. than Evangrlical Christians in the US) is racist.

Islam is not a race

TheRock1525 posted...

Why single out black on black crime unless you're saying "black people deserve what happens to them" when it's literally true about every single other race in America?

"Why single out that black lives matter when it's true of every other race in America"

You're literally using the same argument as BLM dissenters >_>
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TheRock1525 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

However, that is definitely not what was said at all either.

It was exactly what was said, ya knob.

Why single out black on black crime unless you're saying "black people deserve what happens to them" when it's literally true about every single other race in America?

First of all, police violence against the African-American community is numerically very minute despite the media coverage of it.

It is higher than their slice of the population would dictate it should be if evenly sliced, but crime from African Americans also is higher than their slice of the population also which would just suggest that they have more interaction with cops which directly correlates to how often these situations can go awry.

The argument is that instead of focusing on police violence. They should be focusing on their own violence against their own communities which is the leading cause of death and violence for their communities. And that by trying to blame it elsewhere instead of focusing on the major issue, that they are getting what they deserve regarding violence against their community (hint: from within).

The end conclusion she makes is inappropriate, insensitive, and inflammatory, especially from a figure in which could be meant to represent all of the United States. Even with the accurate nature of most things referred to, it doesn't change the inappropriateness of how the end conclusion was formulated.

Is it grounds to remove her? I mean it is, but it is a pretty low bar then.

Definitely not a racist argument.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Arent conservative commentators usually the ones who want celebrities to shut up about politics?

They should/shouldn't. They should if it overly impedes on the product itself. They should be allowed to state their beliefs though as a regular American. You should be able to watch a football game and not have political agenda tossed down your throat. You should be able to watch a movie that isn't about politics and not have a political agenda tossed down your throat. Celebrities should be able to state their opinions though.

Though I am not sure she was publicly stating these things. It sounds to me like screen grabs from her Facebook l not meant for national public attention and quite possibly even prior to being in national spotlight at all
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Grimlyn posted...

That is very much not "acknowledging a problem" as it is nonchalant twisting stats on a complex and serious issue onto the feet of minorities in an effort solely to group, dismiss, and dehumanize them. "The majority of black deaths are caused by other blacks" is a dangerously misleading statement that doesn't at all attempt to explain any understanding behind the facts being abused such as socioeconomic segregation. Instead they leave a canyon of information for the listener to fill in. This is a common tactic of racism to spread incomplete information to promote twisted conclusions.

Statements aren't just made within a magical vacuum that erases all context, you can make a statement racist by its framing and those are not comments of someone who is legitimately seeking or concerned with solutions to black on black crime.

"you get what you deserve" is an extra massive cherry on top to underline how utterly indefensible the tweet is.

It's not 'twisting stats' it's literally taking them at face value!

"you get what you deserve" is definitely in bad taste though
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TheRock1525 posted...

"Islam in America will oppress women" despite all evidence to the contrary

lmfao, imagine actually believing that. Because a religion totally changes depending on where the follower is located.
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MZero11 posted...

"Why single out that black lives matter when it's true of every other race in America"

Where in her tweet did she bring up black lives matter?
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Vlado posted...

Because a religion totally changes depending on where the follower is located.

Muslims in the US are more tolerant than most Christians affiliations.
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TLDR: Her entire argument is basically "You deserve the violence in your communities that you have now because you refuse to actually address the main source of that violence (yourselves) and instead blame it on a very small percentage of it (cops)"

Insensitive sure. Racist nah.
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TheRock1525 posted...

Vlado posted...

Because a religion totally changes depending on where the follower is located.

Muslims in the US are more tolerant than most Christians affiliations.

Hahahahahahaha, wow.
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Vlado posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

Vlado posted...

Because a religion totally changes depending on where the follower is located.

Muslims in the US are more tolerant than most Christians affiliations.

Hahahahahahaha, wow.

Eh, he could be right? But, it is pretty impossible to state or prove. I'd say it is a pretty bold statement.

I'd argue moreso that most are as tolerant as most Christian affiliations, in his shoes.

Obviously there is a lot of intolerant Christian affiliations due to the abortion issue. Not sure what the Muslim position is regarding that.
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Re: mzero

Bro getting into religious vs racial discrimination makes it feel like you're trying really hard to split hairs for some reason.

I get that BLM's initial pitch and slogan is in your face, but if you actually took the time to learn anything about the movement it makes sense in a way that you're not expressing an understanding of

I get it, my initial gut reaction was negative as well. It's an intentionally polarizing marketing decision to attract attention at the cost of clarity

The 'fair racial treatment by police movement' probably wouldn't have caught on so well

"Black lives matter" actually means "black lives matter as much as everyone else's, but the police don't behave as if they do". This is the long winded explanation for why that "BLM dissenter" argument makes no sense, but rock's does

There is no underlying benign explanation for Kathy's statement. Punishing individuals because of their skin color (or 'origin commmunity') is textbook, old school prejudice, even if you apply it to every race/'community'.

"I'm not racist, I just think people should be treated differently by police based on their apparent race/visually identifiable community'
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TheRock1525 posted...

MZero11 posted...

"Why single out that black lives matter when it's true of every other race in America"

Where in her tweet did she bring up black lives matter?

She didn't

I'm saying your question of 'why single out black on black violence' is the same as people who ask 'why single out that black lives matter'

Both are dumb
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banananor posted...

"I'm not racist, I just think people should be treated differently by police based on their apparent race/visually identifiable community'

She doesn't say this no matter how many times you say this.
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banananor posted...

Re: mzero

Bro getting into religious vs racial discrimination makes it feel like you're trying really hard to split hairs for some reason.

I get that BLM's initial pitch and slogan is in your face, but if you actually took the time to learn anything about the movement it makes sense in a way that you're not expressing an understanding of

You can't just slap the racist label on someone because you disagree with them. Many Islamic countries do have laws that oppress women. That has nothing to do with race

I have nothing against BLM. I'm saying that just because you don't bring up other races doesn't mean you're singling out one race (just as BLM doesn't mean other races' lives don't matter)

And also I said her argument is dumb but not racist so I'm not actually defending it
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There probably exists an alternate universe where humans aren't pattern recognition machines and cops don't factor appearance into their decision making process

We are not living in that universe

We've all seen footage where cops acted wildly inappropriately due to the victim's race. The rate at which other black people commit crimes (or whatever) should not affect how a particular black person is treated

If kathy is trying to claim racial profiling doesn't exist, i could see the argument that she's ultimately more ignorant than racist, but unfortunately racism through ignorance doesn't get you any merits or brownie points
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MZero11 posted...

banananor posted...

Re: mzero

Bro getting into religious vs racial discrimination makes it feel like you're trying really hard to split hairs for some reason.

I get that BLM's initial pitch and slogan is in your face, but if you actually took the time to learn anything about the movement it makes sense in a way that you're not expressing an understanding of

You can't just slap the racist label on someone because you disagree with them. Many Islamic countries do have laws that oppress women. That has nothing to do with race

I have nothing against BLM. I'm saying that just because you don't bring up other races doesn't mean you're singling out one race (just as BLM doesn't mean other races' lives don't matter)

And also I said her argument is dumb but not racist so I'm not actually defending it

I agree that racism as a term is a little sloppy in that scenario

It is tricky, and may still be applicable In some cases because the muslims anti-Islam people are most afraid of tend to look a certain way

Kathy is definitely singling out a race in her post, though. Saying "people should be judged by their skin color's statistics, and the black population has bad stats" is a roundabout way of getting there

I had trouble writing my post because I knew you weren't agreeing with the point you were comparing, but I did disagree with the applicability of that conparison
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Jakyl25 posted...

Arent conservative commentators usually the ones who want celebrities to shut up about politics?

Well you see, that only applies to celebrities who have views that they dont like. Its totally okay in conservatives eyes for someone to express their views if they share the same opinions as conservatives!

banananor posted...

MZero11 posted...

banananor posted...

Re: mzero

Bro getting into religious vs racial discrimination makes it feel like you're trying really hard to split hairs for some reason.

I get that BLM's initial pitch and slogan is in your face, but if you actually took the time to learn anything about the movement it makes sense in a way that you're not expressing an understanding of

You can't just slap the racist label on someone because you disagree with them. Many Islamic countries do have laws that oppress women. That has nothing to do with race

I have nothing against BLM. I'm saying that just because you don't bring up other races doesn't mean you're singling out one race (just as BLM doesn't mean other races' lives don't matter)

And also I said her argument is dumb but not racist so I'm not actually defending it

I agree that racism as a term is a little sloppy in that scenario

It is tricky, and may still be applicable In some cases because the muslims anti-Islam people are most afraid of tend to look a certain way

Kathy is definitely singling out a race in her post, though. Saying "people should be judged by their skin color's statistics, and the black population has bad stats" is a roundabout way of getting there

I had trouble writing my post because I knew you weren't agreeing with the point you were comparing, but I did disagree with the applicability of that conparison

I guess I read it as more of 'fix your own problems and then worry about the police' which is dumb because there's no reason to ignorw either (also police should be held to a higher standard than typical civilians)

Regardless, I don't think we're that far apart here. I'm just more attributing it to being misinformed than being racist
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Vlado posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

Vlado posted...

Because a religion totally changes depending on where the follower is located.

Muslims in the US are more tolerant than most Christians affiliations.

Hahahahahahaha, wow.

https://www.newsweek.com/muslim-white-evangelical-gay-marriage-907627

What's it like being so astonishingly ignorant about American culture and values?
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Vlado posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

"Islam in America will oppress women" despite all evidence to the contrary

lmfao, imagine actually believing that. Because a religion totally changes depending on where the follower is located.

Does this apply to the whole of Christianity or just scary Muslims?
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TheRock1525 posted...

Vlado posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

Vlado posted...

Because a religion totally changes depending on where the follower is located.

Muslims in the US are more tolerant than most Christians affiliations.

Hahahahahahaha, wow.

https://www.newsweek.com/muslim-white-evangelical-gay-marriage-907627

What's it like being so astonishingly ignorant about American culture and values?

Be careful with equating tolerance as a whole to just same sex marriage acceptance.
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TheRock1525 posted...

https://www.newsweek.com/muslim-white-evangelical-gay-marriage-907627

What's it like being so astonishingly ignorant about American culture and values?

That surprises me a lot! I thought that Muslims, on average, are more likely to strictly believe in the tenets of their religion, whereas Christians in America are increasingly "believe what you feel like, regardless of the Bible."
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Apparently Muslims don't believe in abortion past 120 days unless woman's life is in danger from what I surmised. Some sects are even less in time period.
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Drakeryn posted...

I thought that Muslims, on average, are more likely to strictly believe in the tenets of their religion,

Perhaps the ones that didn't emigrate to other countries.

I feel like people who immigrate are less likely to take their traditions quite as seriously. Which is actually not true from a personal example, if anything they dug deeper in, but maybe it's an exception.
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Obviously those who immigrate to areas with different norms will assimilate some due to different ideas and not being reinforced into the same ideas constantly.
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