Current Events > BattleBots: Fight Night week 7 discussion topic *spoilers*

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BattleBots is back on TV with a brand new season of metal munching mayhem! Week 7 of this 16-week season airs tonight at 8PM Eastern on the Discovery Channel. and will be replayed (along with the extra bonus fight) on the Science Channel 12 days from today.



The mighty Tombstone is in the main-event of this week's fight card again, taking on Rotator in an explosive battle of spinners! The undercard also features some powerful bots as well, such as Cobalt, Sawblaze, Lock-Jaw, Duck, Quantum, and Railgun Max. Which teams will solidify their playoff pushes with a big win, and which will be looking towards the mid-season Desperado tournament as their final hopes? We'll find out in the next awesome episode, beginning about an hour from now!





Now for the usual reminder tags:

@MJOLNRVII @Purple_Cheetah @El_Mexicano_Texano @DuneMan @powerman1426 @PiOverlord @monkeysRfunny @Typhon @unclekoolaid73 @MasterGakke
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Reminder tags part 2:

@MI4_REAL @LostForest @Compsognathus @Gheb
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Oh boy Tombstone's always fun. Last week was violent, so I hope tonight's episode doesn't disappoint.
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Can't wait for some Tombstone goodness.
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I'll be cheering for Cobalt to bisect Bombshell. I doubt it will happen, but that would be quite the sight.
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MJOLNRVII posted...

Oh boy Tombstone's always fun. Last week was violent, so I hope tonight's episode doesn't disappoint.

MasterGakke posted...

Can't wait for some Tombstone goodness.

Same, Tombstone vs. Rotator sounds like it'll be a bloodbath. Those two colliding weapon-on-weapon would probably bust up both bots pretty badly, no matter which one actually comes out on top. Cobalt and Railgun Max have both shown insane destructive potential as well, so the chances of at least one bot ending up totally mangled is pretty high this week.
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Yeah, this is looking good. Last week I wasn't expecting the carnage we got. Tonight, I am
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TOMBSTONE! TOMBSTONE! TOMBSTONE!

Sawblade should definitely bounce back this round.
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I miss Biohazard.

That Bronco fight last week...Yikes!!!!

DVRing it so i wont be joining the conversation but as always thanks for the reminder TC
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Thanks once again for the reminder, you're the best
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El Mexicano Texano posted...

Thanks once again for the reminder, you're the best

Yeah man, it's been cool getting to BS about robot fighting this year. I love these topics.
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PokemonYoutube posted...

I miss Biohazard.

I miss the legends too, but without SERIOUS upgrades (like Son Of Whyachi has done for itself) they would get annihilated by today's robots. Biohazard was already destroyed in a live event (after the original BattleBots was cancelled) back in 2005, after technology improved and the other robots caught up to it. In two fights against two spinners, Megabyte and Brutality, Biohazard suffered fatal damage and was retired from competition.

Thanks to its various upgrades, Son Of Whyachi is actually the oldest combat robot from the original BattleBots that's still active, and it's the second-oldest combat robot in the world that's still active, behind only Behemoth from UK Robot Wars.

unclekoolaid73 posted...

DVRing it so i wont be joining the conversation but as always thanks for the reminder TC

MasterGakke posted...

El Mexicano Texano posted...

Thanks once again for the reminder, you're the best

Yeah man, it's been cool getting to BS about robot fighting this year. I love these topics.

No problem. I'm glad that we have so many fans of the show here on CE to liven up these topics.
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Here we go, folks. IT'S ROBOT FIGHTIN' TIME! The final episode of fights before the mid-season Desperado Tournament begins now!
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Finally, I can watch it!
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That was an awesome fight. Death Roll had two weapon belts on their bot, and Quantum took one of them off with that first bite... but Death Roll was still alive, and came back with a vengeance to beat Quantum into submission! Death Roll being 3-0 at this point is one of the biggest surprises of the season, especially with two of those wins being against pretty strong bots. Their spot in the postseason tournament is just about clinched.

Bombshell vs. Cobalt is up next!
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This should be a messy fight

Edit: lol wut
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Bombshell: *loses in less than a minute again*

The entirety of r/BattleBots:

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Quack quack all the way.
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Let's go Duck!

EDIT: Holy shit, that might have been the greatest Faruq intro ever!
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Noooo!
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Great tactical fight right there. I thought Duck may have gotten the decision from at least one judge after Lock-Jaw started smoking and lost their primary weapon for a bit, but Lock-Jaw did a lot of damage and was pretty aggressive. No argument from me, that could have gone either way.
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Duck was trying to flip him it seemed he just couldn't get under
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Sawblaze using a new saw for this one. This should be interesting.
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Hopefully it's a saw that actually does more than make sparks

Edit: Needs wheely bars
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Sawblaze landed some solid hits, but not enough to get a KO. On top of that, the saw stopped at the end. I honestly have to give this one to Blacksmith.

EDIT: They gave the decision to Sawblaze, but it was really close. Blacksmith is one of those bots that always puts up an amazing fight even if they lose more often than they win, so I really hope they improve the bot and come back for another season.
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Let's go Railgun! Win this for the weebs!

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Well, another decisive victory. But durability/ longevity is now in question
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Main event time! Bots are gonna die tonight!
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ROTATOR FUCKING DID IT! YEAH BABY!
(caps)
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Holy shit they did it, and with 2 seconds left.
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WOW, good game
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Haha.... so glad that worked out. I knew it had a good chance so long as it didn't lose a wheel or suddenly stop working. Hell of a fight even though most of the actual action was short and very sweet.

Was surprised to see they swapped to the longer reach blade after saying they'd use the red cutter one that digs into wedges. Might have been their undoing, like he said 'I'm the one who will beat myself'

I love Rail Gun Max.

Also, I would have gone with Blacksmith. I will say, though, I'm not impressed with hammer bots as a whole.
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Even though I predicted a Sawblaze win, I think Blacksmith should have gotten that decision.

I also think Duck! should have won that fight against Lock-Jaw. Duck! took more cosmetic damage but Lock-Jaw was pouring smoke and lost it's weapon.

Two decisions I disagreed with but both were really close fights. Maybe the judges saw something that I didn't.

I did recognize Tantrum from last year once I noticed the fists on the sides of it. I don't think I've ever seen a weapon like that before, didn't appear all that effective though.

Rail Gun Max and Cobalt are both living up to my expectations so far, and are really enjoyable bots to watch.

Very surprised that Rotator defeated Tombstone. I think that was my only incorrect prediction this week.

Overall another great show that has me looking forward to next week and wishing that it was here already.

PiOverlord posted...

Also, I would have gone with Blacksmith.

Typhon posted...

Even though I predicted a Sawblaze win, I think Blacksmith should have gotten that decision.

I also think Duck! should have won that fight against Lock-Jaw. Duck! took more cosmetic damage but Lock-Jaw was pouring smoke and lost it's weapon.

Two decisions I disagreed with but both were really close fights. Maybe the judges saw something that I didn't.

I agree. I would have given those to Blacksmith and Duck, but they were close enough fights that I completely understand why they gave them to Sawblaze and Lockjaw instead. Those kinds of close fights are awesome to watch.

Typhon posted...

Rail Gun Max and Cobalt are both living up to my expectations so far, and are really enjoyable bots to watch.

Again, same here, although I was already a fan of Cobalt because I was a fan of the team and their other bot Carbide over in Robot Wars.
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What exactly is Shellshock's plan? Push other robots into the hazards?
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monkeysRfunny posted...

What exactly is Shellshock's plan? Push other robots into the hazards?

It's a full-body spinner. The "shell" spins around, and it has little teeth at the bottom that are supposed to hit the opposing robot and cause damage.
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Thinking about that main event I can't help but think of that interview with shredderator with one of my favorite quotes/bits.

"It's physics, baby." "You hear that, Kenny? It's physics, baby"

Definitely a fine display of physics.

Tombstone no... Ray Billings lost the driving war, though, he got trapped in a corner and that's not where Tombstone needs to be.

Blacksmith is junk and did no damage because it has no appreciable weapon, it shouldn't have won that fight against Sawblaze. Come on guys. Jamison Go needs to adjust, though, increasing the weight of the weapon without altering the bot isn't a good idea.

Death Roll is a contender. I love that they focused on durability, most spinners would have been cooked there but instead they battered another bot. They're one to watch.

When do we get a Duck vs Judges fight?
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MasterGakke posted...

Blacksmith is junk and did no damage because it has no appreciable weapon, it shouldn't have won that fight against Sawblaze. Come on guys. Jamison Go needs to adjust, though, increasing the weight of the weapon without altering the bot isn't a good idea.

One problem with sawblaze using that heavier weapon is taking weight off the front. I don't know if they just didn't fully test it before letting them tweak power/driving, but the shift of balance means it torque wheelies way too much defeating the use of the scoop. Seeing as the saw arm pivots it doesn't exactly counter the rotation very well either. As for the weapon itself, it's actually not too bad of a design/theory when it works, ripped gouges into blacksmith at least once or twice, seperating armor plates. Definitely needs more adjustments if he wants to use it, because it's much too easy to flip itself over.

Purple_Cheetah posted...

MasterGakke posted...

Blacksmith is junk and did no damage because it has no appreciable weapon, it shouldn't have won that fight against Sawblaze. Come on guys. Jamison Go needs to adjust, though, increasing the weight of the weapon without altering the bot isn't a good idea.

One problem with sawblaze using that heavier weapon is taking weight off the front. I don't know if they just didn't fully test it before letting them tweak power/driving, but the shift of balance means it torque wheelies way too much defeating the use of the scoop. Seeing as the saw arm pivots it doesn't exactly counter the rotation very well either. As for the weapon itself, it's actually not too bad of a design/theory when it works, ripped gouges into blacksmith at least once or twice, seperating armor plates. Definitely needs more adjustments if he wants to use it, because it's much too easy to flip itself over.

I wonder if we see it again. Yeah, he could put a "wheelie bar" on the back, but that could be bend up and get their wheels off the ground and be a 1 hit KO. It doesn't look like they have the weight to play with to add more to the forks to make up, either. It's a tough thing.
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Calwings posted...

I thought Duck may have gotten the decision from at least one judge after Lock-Jaw started smoking and lost their primary weapon for a bit, but Lock-Jaw did a lot of damage and was pretty aggressive

I don't think Lock Jaw lost their weapon at all. I think it was consciously powered down for a bit to allow the motors to cool. It seems they didn't reactivate the weapon until there was less than 10 seconds remaining though... That was a minor mistake It should have been reactivated with 20 seconds left, because that's beyond the frame for a countdown should something go wrong.

In the Sawblaze and Blacksmith fight it was a tough decision for the judges. Other than the primary weapon dropping on Sawblaze, there wasn't much in the way of appreciable damage. Meanwhile Blacksmith had chunks taken out of the edges of their chassis. Those triangular armor bits welded on top certainly did their job though, and kept the 'hammer saw' from breaching into the main internal compartment of the bot.

I think Blacksmith suffers from decisions in a way not too removed from that with plagues Duck. Judges' decisions favor offense. It's like the point system in boxing favoring those that throw a lot of weak-ass do-nothing jabs. The jabs get credit for 'aggression' or 'control'.

That main event though... wow! You knew things were bad though once the smoke switched from white, generally a battery fire, to black, internal components cooking and melting.
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Yeah both Blacksmith and Duck! suffer in judges decision because it is basically impossible for them to win the damage, and to a lesser extent, aggression categories since they have very weak primary weapons.
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I'm still part of the old-fight division.

Yeah Blacksmith does need a stronger hammer, I think I saw one of his fights and it's not strong enough for todays Battlebots. I need to do more research on that bot.

If his hammer is super-quick, it isn't entirely useless.

If a bot with a super-fast but piss weak primary weapon can push their opponent they can score large amounts of hits with a fast but otherwise useless weapon for points. But one needs to know that means nothing if it ends in a KO
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MI4 REAL posted...

I'm still part of the old-fight division.

Yeah Blacksmith does need a stronger hammer, I think I saw one of his fights and it's not strong enough for todays Battlebots. I need to do more research on that bot.

If his hammer is super-quick, it isn't entirely useless.

If a bot with a super-fast but piss weak primary weapon can push their opponent they can score large amounts of hits with a fast but otherwise useless weapon for points. But one needs to know that means nothing if it ends in a KO

If it doesn't do any damage it doesn't matter. The judging is damage and control based.

Edit: 3 points for damage, 2 points for control, 2 points for aggression
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Also this....

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0:55 look at the piece of the bot flying at Ray, the driver of Tombstone :D
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MI4 REAL posted...

Also this....

That was such a satisfying beatdown. Despite his smug villain character on TV, Ray is actually a really nice guy (he often frequents r/BattleBots while episodes are airing and likes to comment on posts) and I was so happy to see him and Tombstone win that championship in season 2.
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My profile here:

Franchise Favorite:Battlebots (CC Edition)
Franchise Extras:Robot Wars, Robotica
Division:Oldskool Division
Subdivision:Previous Fight Division
Favorite Robot Type:Spinner
Favorite Bots (Old):Hazard, Biohazard, Son of Whyachi
Favorite Bots (New):Tombstone, Bite Force (spinner version), Icewave, SOW
Years Active:2000-2002 (S3-S5)
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90%+ of everything has gotten worse since the 2010s. Good to see Battlebots did not.

These bots hit harder than ever, and the carnage is unreal.
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