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Bestoffuture
07/19/19 2:01:59 PM
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Or is that just the right smearing her?
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Doe
07/19/19 2:04:03 PM
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The right will label you an anti semite if you so much as imply Palestinians are people
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Shablagoo
07/19/19 2:04:29 PM
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Its smear. You can criticize Israel, the nation, without being anti-semitic. Israel =/= Jewish people of the world. I dont know how this isnt obvious to everyone on Earth, but here we are.
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darkjedilink
07/19/19 2:04:30 PM
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Literally repeating sentiments of Adolf Hitler when talking about her Jewish coworkers points to yes.
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Shablagoo
07/19/19 2:04:55 PM
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Doe posted...
The right will label you an anti semite if you so much as imply Palestinians are people

yup
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QuantumTheory
07/19/19 2:05:00 PM
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Doe posted...
The right will label you an anti semite if you so much as imply the term Palestinians exists.

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ArchiePeck
07/19/19 2:05:12 PM
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Has she attacked the Jewish religion or has she criticized the Israeli government?

I have no problem with the Jewish religion, the Israeli government are fucking carrying out apartheid.
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Shablagoo
07/19/19 2:05:39 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Literally repeating sentiments of Adolf Hitler when talking about her Jewish coworkers points to yes.

what?
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darkjedilink
07/19/19 2:06:20 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
Its smear. You can criticize Israel, the nation, without being anti-semitic. Israel =/= Jewish people of the world. I dont know how this isnt obvious to everyone on Earth, but here we are.

What about when she accused her Jewish coworkers of dual-loyalty?

That seems a little bit more than just 'criticizing Israel.'

As does her referring of Hamas, an organization that has called for the extermination of all Jews around the world, as a 'nonviolent protest group.'
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darkjedilink
07/19/19 2:06:58 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
Doe posted...
The right will label you an anti semite if you so much as imply Palestinians are people

yup

Palestinians are people.

You're proven wrong.
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brestugo
07/19/19 2:07:17 PM
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Criticizing Israeli government policy is not anti-semitism.
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Paper_Okami
07/19/19 2:08:54 PM
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RoadsterUFO posted...
I hate her policies because shes a socialist, but it is definitely the right smearing her. Theyre mixing up valid reasons to criticize Israel for being anti-Semite.


no she's not lol

and to TC no she is not
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darkjedilink
07/19/19 2:09:05 PM
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ArchiePeck posted...
Has she attacked the Jewish religion or has she criticized the Israeli government?

She has said that Jewish Congresspeople who do anything supportive of Israel put their Jewish loyalty in front of loyalty to America.
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Shablagoo
07/19/19 2:09:05 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Shablagoo posted...
Its smear. You can criticize Israel, the nation, without being anti-semitic. Israel =/= Jewish people of the world. I dont know how this isnt obvious to everyone on Earth, but here we are.

What about when she accused her Jewish coworkers of dual-loyalty?

That seems a little bit more than just 'criticizing Israel.'

As does her referring of Hamas, an organization that has called for the extermination of all Jews around the world, as a 'nonviolent protest group.'

I have not seen this, links?
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Doe
07/19/19 2:09:08 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Shablagoo posted...
Doe posted...
The right will label you an anti semite if you so much as imply Palestinians are people

yup

Palestinians are people.

You're proven wrong.

Damn you sure showed us lol
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darkjedilink
07/19/19 2:09:58 PM
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brestugo posted...
Criticizing Israeli government policy is not anti-semitism.

How is calling Jewish Congresspeople disloyal to America 'criticizing Israeli government policy?'
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Tyranthraxus
07/19/19 2:10:42 PM
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You know how there's a certain type of person who screams islamophobia when you say anything remotely critical of Islam?

That's what the GOP is doing to Ilhan Omar.
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darkjedilink
07/19/19 2:10:57 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Shablagoo posted...
Its smear. You can criticize Israel, the nation, without being anti-semitic. Israel =/= Jewish people of the world. I dont know how this isnt obvious to everyone on Earth, but here we are.

What about when she accused her Jewish coworkers of dual-loyalty?

That seems a little bit more than just 'criticizing Israel.'

As does her referring of Hamas, an organization that has called for the extermination of all Jews around the world, as a 'nonviolent protest group.'

I have not seen this, links?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/584314/
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Funkydog
07/19/19 2:14:27 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Shablagoo posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Shablagoo posted...
Its smear. You can criticize Israel, the nation, without being anti-semitic. Israel =/= Jewish people of the world. I dont know how this isnt obvious to everyone on Earth, but here we are.

What about when she accused her Jewish coworkers of dual-loyalty?

That seems a little bit more than just 'criticizing Israel.'

As does her referring of Hamas, an organization that has called for the extermination of all Jews around the world, as a 'nonviolent protest group.'

I have not seen this, links?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/584314/

Linking to an opinion piece is hardly credible.
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Shablagoo
07/19/19 2:16:53 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/584314/

After apologizing for that comment and acknowledging her need to be educated, she followed with another tweet, questioning the allegiance of supporters of Israel, intimating that we place the concerns of Israel above those of the country that we call home.

Seems like Rahm is conflating supporters of Israel with Jewish people. You dont have to be Jewish to support Israel, and not all Jewish people support Israel. He even talks in the article about himself criticizing Israels actions in the past.
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CADE FOSTER
07/19/19 2:17:15 PM
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brestugo posted...
Criticizing Israeli government policy is not anti-semitism.

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brestugo
07/19/19 2:17:45 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
brestugo posted...
Criticizing Israeli government policy is not anti-semitism.

How is calling Jewish Congresspeople disloyal to America 'criticizing Israeli government policy?'

She suggested that AIPAC uses campaign donations to influence elected officials. That's not exactly controversial. Trump has even used that trope in front of a Jewish audience. AIPAC is like any other PAC. They have an agenda and they give money to promote it.
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emblem boy
07/19/19 2:18:57 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
very curious how darkjedilink can recognise racist dogwhistles when it comes to anti-semitism, but denies their existence very hard when it comes to people of colour.


It's a question I'd like to ask most conservatives pundits in general
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ElatedVenusaur
07/19/19 2:19:08 PM
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Funkydog posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Shablagoo posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Shablagoo posted...
Its smear. You can criticize Israel, the nation, without being anti-semitic. Israel =/= Jewish people of the world. I dont know how this isnt obvious to everyone on Earth, but here we are.

What about when she accused her Jewish coworkers of dual-loyalty?

That seems a little bit more than just 'criticizing Israel.'

As does her referring of Hamas, an organization that has called for the extermination of all Jews around the world, as a 'nonviolent protest group.'

I have not seen this, links?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/584314/

Linking to an opinion piece is hardly credible.

Written by Rahm Emmanuel, no less, a career-long shill for AIPAC.
Rep. Ilhan Omar's remarks were critical of lobbying, the point being that she was contending that current American policy towards Israel is manufactured by pro-Israel lobbying groups like AIPAC, and not a reflection of the popular will. She further complained that her colleagues were hostile to any criticism of America's policy on Israel, complaining she felt she was expected to swear an oath of loyalty to Israel in addition to America.
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brestugo
07/19/19 2:19:53 PM
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Funkydog posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Shablagoo posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Shablagoo posted...
Its smear. You can criticize Israel, the nation, without being anti-semitic. Israel =/= Jewish people of the world. I dont know how this isnt obvious to everyone on Earth, but here we are.

What about when she accused her Jewish coworkers of dual-loyalty?

That seems a little bit more than just 'criticizing Israel.'

As does her referring of Hamas, an organization that has called for the extermination of all Jews around the world, as a 'nonviolent protest group.'

I have not seen this, links?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/584314/

Linking to an opinion piece is hardly credible.

This too.
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NinjaBreakfast
07/19/19 2:21:25 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
very curious how darkjedilink can recognise racist dogwhistles when it comes to anti-semitism, but denies their existence very hard when it comes to people of colour.

He has already said he doesn't think Trumps comments were racist lol
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darkjedilink
07/19/19 2:23:03 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
darkjedilink posted...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/584314/

After apologizing for that comment and acknowledging her need to be educated, she followed with another tweet, questioning the allegiance of supporters of Israel, intimating that we place the concerns of Israel above those of the country that we call home.

Seems like Rahm is conflating supporters of Israel with Jewish people. You dont have to be Jewish to support Israel, and not all Jewish people support Israel. He even talks in the article about himself criticizing Israels actions in the past.

He's not conflating anything. He's pointed out that what Omar has said has been levied against him his entire career, simply because he's Jewish.

Now, all of a sudden, it means something different?
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Damn_Underscore
07/19/19 2:33:33 PM
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The left hates Israel so much that they will overlook slightly antisemetic things someone says if their main goal is to be anti-Israel (example: Ilhan Omar and some of the things she has said while attacking Israel).
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darkjedilink
07/19/19 2:58:41 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
The left hates Israel so much that they will overlook slightly antisemetic things someone says if their main goal is to be anti-Israel (example: Ilhan Omar and some of the things she has said while attacking Israel).

Remember when they were going to censure her, but chickened out?
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Funkydog
07/19/19 2:59:49 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Shablagoo posted...
darkjedilink posted...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/584314/

After apologizing for that comment and acknowledging her need to be educated, she followed with another tweet, questioning the allegiance of supporters of Israel, intimating that we place the concerns of Israel above those of the country that we call home.

Seems like Rahm is conflating supporters of Israel with Jewish people. You dont have to be Jewish to support Israel, and not all Jewish people support Israel. He even talks in the article about himself criticizing Israels actions in the past.

He's not conflating anything. He's pointed out that what Omar has said has been levied against him his entire career, simply because he's Jewish.

Now, all of a sudden, it means something different?

1+1 doesn't equal 3 no matter how much you claim it does.
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The Admiral
07/19/19 3:03:01 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
very curious how darkjedilink can recognise racist dogwhistles when it comes to anti-semitism, but denies their existence very hard when it comes to people of colour.


Kind of works in reverse in this topic, too, doesn't it? How are all the folks who are so "woke" that they read racial subtext in everything unable to criticize this woman when she regurgitates WW2 Nazi rhetoric about the Jews?
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Tyranthraxus
07/19/19 3:04:20 PM
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The Admiral posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
very curious how darkjedilink can recognise racist dogwhistles when it comes to anti-semitism, but denies their existence very hard when it comes to people of colour.


Kind of works in reverse in this topic, too, doesn't it? How are all the folks who are so "woke" that they read racial subtext in everything unable to criticize this woman when she regurgitates WW2 Nazi rhetoric about the Jews?


If I roll my eyes any harder I might upset the rotation of the Earth.
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Silver Bearings
07/19/19 3:05:53 PM
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Clearly, yes.
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Omnislasher
07/19/19 3:07:14 PM
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Doe posted...
The right will label you an anti semite if you so much as imply Palestinians are people


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