Poll of the Day > There's gonna be a Thor 4.

(+) Yeah! (+)

https://therealstanlee.com/entertainment/taika-waititi-returns-for-thor-4/

Not many other details, but cool. I kinda wanted a Captain America 4 that took place between Civil War and Infinity War, but I kinda get why that can't happen.

Also, what's up with the Sokovia accords? I feel like they were only ever used against Steve and friends. Black Panther and Spider-Man did whatever they wanted.
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Nice Im glad Taika Waititi is back to direct
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and write a tentative continuation of Thors story, with Chris Hemsworth presumably returning to star in the project once again.

you don't fuckin say

whodathunk that the thor movie would feature the actor who plays thor
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Mead posted...

Nice Im glad Taika Waititi is back to direct

Me too. Ragnorok was awesome.

Mead posted...

Nice Im glad Taika Waititi is back to direct

same here

SpeedDemon20 posted...

Also, what's up with the Sokovia accords? I feel like they were only ever used against Steve and friends. Black Panther and Spider-Man did whatever they wanted.

Technically, the Sokovia Accords only required a hero to register their secret identity, and require certain groups (specifically, SHIELD and the Avengers) to be answerable to the UN.

T'Challa's identity is essentially publicly known, and he also has effective diplomatic immunity as the sovereign ruler and representative of his nation, so the Accords don't apply to him on any level.

Peter presumably doesn't fall under the Accords because he acts as an individual rather than as part of a group (he's not technically an Avenger, even when he's with them). Though it's also worth considering that - as much as it makes zero sense contextually - the fact that he was actively working with Tony on a semi-regular basis, and Tony was a primary supporter of the Accords, it might be assumed that Spider-Man IS "registered" (albeit with his secret ID kept hidden, and only known to specific officials or SHIELD admins), if Tony encouraged him to do so. Though Tony being Tony, he might also have bent the rules a bit and deliberately kept Spider-Man "off the books".

By the current point in time in the movies, odds are the Sokovia Accords won't be valid much longer anyway, though. After the radical over-the-top consequences of the Snap, odds are most world governments will be far more lenient towards superhuman activity (as a counterbalance to extraterrestrial threats, if nothing else). We'll have to see if they keep the Accords as a meaningful setting element, or eventually repeal them.


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i think it's safe to assume that tony kept peter from needing to do anything with the accords
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Bulbasaur posted...

whodathunk that the thor movie would feature the actor who plays thor

How many James Bond movies did they make without Sean Connery, again?

They haven't pulled the trigger on a main star recasting yet (yet), but it's not as if they're completely adverse to the idea, considering we've already had two different Rhodeys and two Fandrals. Eventually it's probably going to become inevitable for them to recast a major character due to actor complications.


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Hm, yeah, it makes sense that the accords won't matter after the Snap. You did good, Thanos.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Eventually it's probably going to become inevitable for them to recast a major character due to actor complications.

yes, but when you have a major main character such as thor, they aren't going to pull a DC and just recast him as someone else and just act as if he wasn't recast

rhody being recast is fine, because he isn't a main character, and at the time, wasn't even an important character

the same could probably be said for whoever fandral is

but then you could bring up hulk, which i have no idea what i'd respond with to that.
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I actively disliked the first Thor movie. Specifically how it was filmed.

I found the second relatively boring.

Ragnarok is one of the best movies of the MCU. I'm glad Taika is back.

give us beta ray bill
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Bulbasaur posted...

yes, but when you have a major main character such as thor, they aren't going to pull a DC and just recast him as someone else and just act as if he wasn't recast

They might. People were already talking about whether they should recast Iron Man and Cap themselves, but most people kind of erred on the side of Chris Evans and RDJ's portrayals being just too iconic to ever really accept anyone else in their roles. Thor probably straddles the line of what is and isn't acceptable - but I can see them recasting almost any other character (other than maybe Star-Lord) if they need to.

And as the franchise continues to run for decades to come, they're either absolutely going to NEED to eventually, or they're going to have to keep finding less and less justifiable ways to write characters out of the setting (or just start killing them all off).

But arguably, they wouldn't even need to recast if Hemsworth doesn't want to come back. There've literally been at least six different "Thors" in the comics. Plus another half-dozen if you start counting alternate universe "What If?" versions.

And honestly, pretty much every comic geek would suffer spontaneous nerdgasm if they made a movie about Beta Ray Bill (aka Beta Ray Thor, "Horse Thor", or "Thorse").


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BlackScythe0 posted...

I actively disliked the first Thor movie. Specifically how it was filmed.

I found the second relatively boring.

Ragnarok is one of the best movies of the MCU. I'm glad Taika is back.

The first one was Shakespeare, the second one was shitty sci-fi, and the third was basically Guardians of the Galaxy.


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Blighboy posted...

give us beta ray bill

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i think what is more likely to happen is just another passing of the torch.

you'd have a normal Thor movie, and then Thor gifts like, valkyrie his powers

boom, new Thor.

at this point they can't do that offscreen though
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I'd like to see Thor "gift" valkyrie with his "power" onscreen. :)
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Did you watch Men in Black: International?
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SpeedDemon20 posted...

Did you watch Men in Black: International?

No cause I don't watch shit movies, barring scat.
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Me neither.
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I convinced my wife that its gonna be called TH4R
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Fhor
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Bulbasaur posted...

and write a tentative continuation of Thors story, with Chris Hemsworth presumably returning to star in the project once again.

you don't fuckin say

whodathunk that the thor movie would feature the actor who plays thor

Natalie Portman, obviously
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Bulbasaur posted...

i think what is more likely to happen is just another passing of the torch.

you'd have a normal Thor movie, and then Thor gifts like, valkyrie his powers

boom, new Thor.

at this point they can't do that offscreen though

thor is his name, not a title
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

Bulbasaur posted...

i think what is more likely to happen is just another passing of the torch.

you'd have a normal Thor movie, and then Thor gifts like, valkyrie his powers

boom, new Thor.

at this point they can't do that offscreen though

thor is his name, not a title

Well you say that...
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OHJOY90 posted...

Krazy_Kirby posted...

thor is his name, not a title

Well you say that...

Yeah. As I mentioned earlier, there've been like six different people in the comics who "became" Thor. Mainly because "Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor."

It varies just how much being able to pick up the hammer makes you like Thor - usually the most you get is a similar outfit but people still call you by your own name (like Beta Ray Bill). But in at least one case the person who got it apparently wound up looking so much like the original Thor that literally everyone just called him Thor, and assumed he WAS the original Thor, even though he acted different (because he was a modern man from Earth and not an ancient Asgardian). And sometimes you get someone who everyone knows ISN'T actually Thor, but since they have the powers of Thor and sort of look a bit like Thor and kind of serve as a symbol of what Thor represents, everyone just calls them Thor anyway. So Thor is essentially both a name AND a title.

It was only really asinine when they decided that Thor stopped being Thor when someone else became Thor, so that they could be even more progressive when they introduced a new female Thor with almost no narrative justification or reason (because Tumblr-pandering). But that was hardly the worst part of that run (that might be the shitty memes, or throwing tantrums on Twitter because OMGTHEPATRIARCHY).

Though, speaking of which...



Metalsonic66 posted...

Natalie Portman, obviously

Was honestly my first thought. Would have mentioned it earlier if not for the fact that she's supposedly not on good terms with Marvel/Disney (part of why she hasn't come back for any films post-Thor 2 - that was the film where the problems started). After all, they've already done that shitty storyline in the comics, there's no reason why they couldn't do it in the films as well.

But Valkyrie is the blatantly obvious choice for that shitty storyline in the films. Partly because he's effectively already handed her his authority in a somewhat forced scenario, and partly because she's the only warrior-like Asgardian left to hand it off to in the films since they killed Siff and the Warriors Three off already. But also party because Tessa Thompson gives them a triple jackpot on the diversity bingo card. And partly because Tessa Thompson has apparently been pushing behind the scenes for an all-female Avengers movie (hence the overly forced scene in Endgame that basically telegraphs it).

The only other real options would be to have Loki reform and wind up with it (which seems kind of ridiculous), or to give it to a completely new human character and have them try to do the double-life thing (like Thor's original comic stories, or the stories in the 90s with Eric Masterson), which would be kind of risky if everybody winds up hating the new guy.


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ParanoidObsessive posted...

she hasn't come back for any films post-Thor 2

I thought she did come back for a very small scene in Endgame during the Thor 2 time-heist

ParanoidObsessive posted...

they killed Siff and the Warriors Three off already

I don't think Sif has been mentioned since before Thor 3. Still pissed about how little the Warriors Three got to shine over the whole trilogy.
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

Bulbasaur posted...

i think what is more likely to happen is just another passing of the torch.

you'd have a normal Thor movie, and then Thor gifts like, valkyrie his powers

boom, new Thor.

at this point they can't do that offscreen though

thor is his name, not a title

It becomes a title in the comics

Based on his name
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They should replace him with a hispanic woman obviously. El Thorette.
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Mead posted...

Krazy_Kirby posted...

Bulbasaur posted...

i think what is more likely to happen is just another passing of the torch.

you'd have a normal Thor movie, and then Thor gifts like, valkyrie his powers

boom, new Thor.

at this point they can't do that offscreen though

thor is his name, not a title

It becomes a title in the comics

Based on his name

which is a stupid excuse to keep the name.

in-universe norse mythology is based on thor. thor is his name
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Good
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Zang getting upset about dumb stuff again

Shocking
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4hor.
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Thor is gonna be transgender in the next one.

He paints Mjolner pink!!
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Smiffwilm posted...

4hor.

Th4
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Zangulus posted...

Krazy_Kirby posted...

Mead posted...

Krazy_Kirby posted...

Bulbasaur posted...

i think what is more likely to happen is just another passing of the torch.

you'd have a normal Thor movie, and then Thor gifts like, valkyrie his powers

boom, new Thor.

at this point they can't do that offscreen though

thor is his name, not a title

It becomes a title in the comics

Based on his name

which is a stupid excuse to keep the name.

in-universe norse mythology is based on thor. thor is his name

Okay, Too bad that the comics don't agree with you. And no one cares what you think.

But ok. You're the official authority on the idea of what mkaes Thor.

Ok.

they used real-world mythology as backstories to create the character. the mythology is the authority on the name thor.
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The comics have always strayed from the mythology they were based on
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I mean, I stopped reading the thor comics after they made all his bones brittle in the comics eons ago.I know it got fixed eventually but he felt so...non-god like at that point to me!!

But yeah, the comics never followed mythology at all for the gods (or demi-gods like Herc).
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Metalsonic66 posted...

The comics have always strayed from the mythology they were based on

The movies especially, since the first Thor went with "They're just aliens".
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

they used real-world mythology as backstories to create the character. the mythology is the authority on the name thor.

Does the fact that comic Thor is blond while mythological Thor is a redhead absolutely shatter your entire worldview and call all of existence into question for you?

Because it should.


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https://www.thewrap.com/thor-4-release-date-marvel-studios-comic-con-hall-h/

Guess who's back? Natalie Portman. (spoilers about her role if you read the article, I think? But if you've read this topic and/or comics, YOU PROBABLY KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH HER.)

The movie will be called Thor: Love and Thunder. Coming Fall 2021.
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