Poll of the Day > Does anyone actually care about the Israel/Palestine conflict?

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THEGODDAMNBATMA
07/15/19 5:32:13 PM
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Donald Trump always tweets about how people will "turn against the Dems" because they "are embracing anti-israel people".

Who the fuck cares? I don't think someone's opinion on Israel is going to sway anyone. If anything I think anti-israel would sway more people because then we wouldn't waste so much taxpayer dollars on their country.
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faramir77
07/15/19 5:35:58 PM
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I agree. Who the fuck cares. I don't know why support of Israel became a left vs right issue. Seems to be part of the increasing political polarization that is being pushed on us.
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ForteEXE3850
07/15/19 5:48:54 PM
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I remember how when "You don't mess with the Zohan" came out some people criticized it for "being insensitive to the issue" because the moral of the movie is the war is stupid and Jews and Palestinians should get along.
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Taily_Po
07/15/19 5:52:26 PM
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Yes, I'm concerned by the anti-semites who want to see Israel gone, including some prominent congresswomen.

ForteEXE3850 posted...
I remember how when "You don't mess with the Zohan" came out some people criticized it for "being insensitive to the issue" because the moral of the movie is the war is stupid and Jews and Palestinians should get along.


The problem is that it's easier said than done. And Israelis have some pretty valid concerns about preserving a state for the Jews, considering that the Holocaust was a thing and antisemitic attitudes aren't just common through the region but are widely accepted in Europe and, even in the US, aren't just limited to fringe hate groups.
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CTLM
07/15/19 5:58:40 PM
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Nope. They've hated each other for many years and will hate each other for many more.
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argonautweakend
07/15/19 5:59:20 PM
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No.

There's 200+ countries in the world I don't know why I should care about those two moreso than the others.
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Kyuubi4269
07/15/19 5:59:50 PM
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Let's just agree to call them The Eastern Territories of The British Empire.
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THEGODDAMNBATMA
07/15/19 6:02:46 PM
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Taily_Po posted...
Yes, I'm concerned by the anti-semites who want to see Israel gone, including some prominent congresswomen.

just because you disagree with Israel doesn't make you an anti-semite. That's like saying you're anti-American if you think it's fucked up that we performed near genocide on Native Americans to take the land.
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CaptainStrong
07/15/19 6:11:37 PM
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I support Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions.
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faramir77
07/15/19 6:12:15 PM
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THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...
Taily_Po posted...
Yes, I'm concerned by the anti-semites who want to see Israel gone, including some prominent congresswomen.

just because you disagree with Israel doesn't make you an anti-semite. That's like saying you're anti-American if you think it's fucked up that we performed near genocide on Native Americans to take the land.


"Near" genocide? European colonization of the Americas was indisputably a full blown genocide, especially in the USA.

Canada wasn't as cruel as the USA with its native peoples but even that still qualifies as a genocide.
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KeijiMaedaTiger
07/15/19 6:17:08 PM
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faramir77 posted...
THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...
Taily_Po posted...
Yes, I'm concerned by the anti-semites who want to see Israel gone, including some prominent congresswomen.

just because you disagree with Israel doesn't make you an anti-semite. That's like saying you're anti-American if you think it's fucked up that we performed near genocide on Native Americans to take the land.


"Near" genocide? European colonization of the Americas was indisputably a full blown genocide, especially in the USA.

Canada wasn't as cruel as the USA with its native peoples but even that still qualifies as a genocide.


Yeah but Canada pioneered the use of pox blankets.
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Mead
07/15/19 6:24:15 PM
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I dont know a ton about it, not enough to have a very educated opinion

But from what little I do know it seems like the Palestinian people there dont have many rights or legal representation but for some reason I never see people discussing how theyre oppressed
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mooreandrew58
07/15/19 7:38:24 PM
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Most people only care when the media and the politicians they like tell them they should.
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Taily_Po
07/15/19 8:53:49 PM
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faramir77 posted...
THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...
Taily_Po posted...
Yes, I'm concerned by the anti-semites who want to see Israel gone, including some prominent congresswomen.

just because you disagree with Israel doesn't make you an anti-semite. That's like saying you're anti-American if you think it's fucked up that we performed near genocide on Native Americans to take the land.


"Near" genocide? European colonization of the Americas was indisputably a full blown genocide, especially in the USA.

Canada wasn't as cruel as the USA with its native peoples but even that still qualifies as a genocide.


Don't sell Canada short, you guys were pretty fucking horrible to the native population as well. Canada also took kids from their parents for re-education camps. It still had forced roundups and reservation systems. Granted, oftentimes the biggest death tolls were from European diseases, most of which happened naturally.

As for the "full blown genocide claim," that genocide is as real today as it was then. Native Americans are still being poisoned by Europeans who sell them alcohol to destroy their communities, their reservations are continually encroached upon, tribal law is widely disrespected, and Native children are being stolen by the government through CPS and other agencies. That's not even going into the fact that the LBJ administration had government doctors sterilizing Native American women, which greatly curtailed several generations of Native American children.
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THEGODDAMNBATMA
07/15/19 10:13:04 PM
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Mead posted...
I dont know a ton about it, not enough to have a very educated opinion

But from what little I do know it seems like the Palestinian people there dont have many rights or legal representation but for some reason I never see people discussing how theyre oppressed


Probably because we've been tricked into thinking "middle easterns bad. jewish people good!". We're a country that was terrorized by Saudi Arabia for decades and instead of fighting them we fight a bunch of Iraqis that never terrorized us because the Saudis have money.
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Mead
07/16/19 12:19:07 AM
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I feel like stories like this never get talked about

https://mondoweiss.net/2019/07/residents-israeli-snipers/
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