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APM
07/14/19 12:00:54 AM
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MabusIncarnate
07/14/19 12:10:08 AM
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Does she literally not know the difference between people sneaking over the border, and people going through the legal process to seek asylum?
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yemmy
07/14/19 12:10:15 AM
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I think it is funnier that she forced them to swear her in so she could get a photo op
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ssj3vegeta2
07/14/19 12:11:36 AM
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Thanatophobic
07/14/19 12:17:47 AM
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ssj3vegeta2 posted...
god i can't wait till she's US president


You honestly think she has a sliver of a chance against Bernie?
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Bloodychess
07/14/19 12:18:40 AM
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Thanatophobic posted...
ssj3vegeta2 posted...
god i can't wait till she's US president


You honestly think she has a sliver of a chance against Bernie?


She would take him out
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SwaggieBelle462
07/14/19 12:20:53 AM
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Shes young and naive, shell mature eventually
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MabusIncarnate
07/14/19 12:22:43 AM
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ssj3vegeta2 posted...
god i can't wait till she's US president

I'd prefer someone running the country who has a basic understanding of laws.
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ThyCorndog
07/14/19 12:23:16 AM
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ICE shouldn't exist
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Holy_Cloud105
07/14/19 12:26:21 AM
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Thanatophobic posted...
ssj3vegeta2 posted...
god i can't wait till she's US president


You honestly think she has a sliver of a chance against Bernie?

She can't run against Bernie because she's not old enough to. I don't think Bernie will either want to run or be alive in 8 years when she's eligible to.
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voldothegr8
07/14/19 11:35:50 AM
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In this vid she's like the personification of internet libs getting smacked around by reality, good stuff
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Banjo2553
07/14/19 11:52:17 AM
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It's like...what do people not get about illegal aliens? They came in illegally rather than through the proper channels, "seeking asylum" be damned.
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Tyranthraxus
07/14/19 11:57:56 AM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
Does she literally not know the difference between people sneaking over the border, and people going through the legal process to seek asylum?

You can cross illegally and apply for asylum later. This is called defensive asylum. You have one year to file your application.
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Hanky_Bannister
07/14/19 12:00:11 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
ssj3vegeta2 posted...
god i can't wait till she's US president

I'd prefer someone running the country who has a basic understanding of laws.

So not trump
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Proto_Spark
07/14/19 12:01:18 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
It's like...what do people not get about illegal aliens? They came in illegally rather than through the proper channels, "seeking asylum" be damned.


Seeking Asylum is a different thing from regular illegal crossings. because in order to seek asylum you are required to enter illegally first, because most countries won't let you request asylum until you are already within the borders. So if someone is escaping persecution of some kind they have to cross a border illegally in order to even request the help that they need.

It's technically against the law, but its one of those situations where nobody actually has a problem with it unless for some deeper (usually xenophobic) reasoning thats unrelated to the actual issue at hand.
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AlephZero
07/14/19 12:01:44 PM
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she's looking pretty good for a future president
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Banjo2553
07/14/19 12:05:36 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
It's like...what do people not get about illegal aliens? They came in illegally rather than through the proper channels, "seeking asylum" be damned.


Seeking Asylum is a different thing from regular illegal crossings. because in order to seek asylum you are required to enter illegally first, because most countries won't let you request asylum until you are already within the borders. So if someone is escaping persecution of some kind they have to cross a border illegally in order to even request the help that they need.

It's technically against the law, but its one of those situations where nobody actually has a problem with it unless for some deeper (usually xenophobic) reasoning thats unrelated to the actual issue at hand.

Thanks for explaining it. AOC didn't have a chance to explain it, then.
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Bloodychess
07/14/19 12:11:00 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
It's like...what do people not get about illegal aliens? They came in illegally rather than through the proper channels, "seeking asylum" be damned.


Seeking Asylum is a different thing from regular illegal crossings. because in order to seek asylum you are required to enter illegally first, because most countries won't let you request asylum until you are already within the borders. So if someone is escaping persecution of some kind they have to cross a border illegally in order to even request the help that they need.

It's technically against the law, but its one of those situations where nobody actually has a problem with it unless for some deeper (usually xenophobic) reasoning thats unrelated to the actual issue at hand.

What's the point of having immigration policies they can just be subverted with asylum requests. Just lie during the proceedings.
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BalisticWarri0r
07/14/19 12:11:57 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
It's like...what do people not get about illegal aliens? They came in illegally rather than through the proper channels, "seeking asylum" be damned.


Seeking Asylum is a different thing from regular illegal crossings. because in order to seek asylum you are required to enter illegally first, because most countries won't let you request asylum until you are already within the borders. So if someone is escaping persecution of some kind they have to cross a border illegally in order to even request the help that they need.

It's technically against the law, but its one of those situations where nobody actually has a problem with it unless for some deeper (usually xenophobic) reasoning thats unrelated to the actual issue at hand.

Citation please.
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darkprince45
07/14/19 12:13:03 PM
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She got owned but she looks really cute there
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Tmaster148
07/14/19 12:14:57 PM
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Bloodychess posted...
Proto_Spark posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
It's like...what do people not get about illegal aliens? They came in illegally rather than through the proper channels, "seeking asylum" be damned.


Seeking Asylum is a different thing from regular illegal crossings. because in order to seek asylum you are required to enter illegally first, because most countries won't let you request asylum until you are already within the borders. So if someone is escaping persecution of some kind they have to cross a border illegally in order to even request the help that they need.

It's technically against the law, but its one of those situations where nobody actually has a problem with it unless for some deeper (usually xenophobic) reasoning thats unrelated to the actual issue at hand.

What's the point of having immigration policies they can just be subverted with asylum requests. Just lie during the proceedings.


Because your request can be denied.
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Tyranthraxus
07/14/19 12:32:05 PM
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Bloodychess posted...
What's the point of having immigration policies they can just be subverted with asylum requests. Just lie during the proceedings.

If you lie during the proceedings then you will be deported and not allowed to reapply.
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Proto_Spark
07/14/19 12:40:38 PM
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BalisticWarri0r posted...
Proto_Spark posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
It's like...what do people not get about illegal aliens? They came in illegally rather than through the proper channels, "seeking asylum" be damned.


Seeking Asylum is a different thing from regular illegal crossings. because in order to seek asylum you are required to enter illegally first, because most countries won't let you request asylum until you are already within the borders. So if someone is escaping persecution of some kind they have to cross a border illegally in order to even request the help that they need.

It's technically against the law, but its one of those situations where nobody actually has a problem with it unless for some deeper (usually xenophobic) reasoning thats unrelated to the actual issue at hand.

Citation please.


https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-asylum/asylum/obtaining-asylum-united-states

In order to declare asylum, you need to be within the US borders. It can be once you arrive, to compensate that you may be entering the country illegally (To avoid prosecution - "Affirmative Asylum"), or it can be done as a defence against deportation or removal - "defensive asylum processing"
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Squall28
07/14/19 1:23:53 PM
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She was trying so hard to grandstand, but that guy was having none of it.
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BaiusGaltar
07/14/19 1:32:09 PM
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Squall28 posted...
She was trying so hard to grandstand, but that guy was having none of it.

What about the fact that it's legal to cross the border?
What about the fact that if you claim asylum at a port of entry, you go to the same camps?
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Samurontai
07/14/19 1:40:13 PM
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Why are conservatives so fucking illiterate when it comes to their own immigration policies

Holy shit
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Banjo2553
07/14/19 1:42:36 PM
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Samurontai posted...
Why are conservatives so fucking illiterate when it comes to their own immigration policies

Holy shit

lol
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BaiusGaltar
07/14/19 2:23:25 PM
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BaiusGaltar posted...
@Squall28 posted...
She was trying so hard to grandstand, but that guy was having none of it.

What about the fact that it's legal to cross the border?
What about the fact that if you claim asylum at a port of entry, you go to the same camps?

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Dampproof
07/14/19 2:40:14 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
ssj3vegeta2 posted...
god i can't wait till she's US president

I'd prefer someone running the country who has a basic understanding of laws.


Dont tell Trump that.

Thanatophobic posted...
ssj3vegeta2 posted...
god i can't wait till she's US president


You honestly think she has a sliver of a chance against Bernie?


Bernie is going to be 86 when AOC is going to be eligible for Presidency. I seriously doubt anyone is going to vote for Sanders based on that alone.
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Evening_Dragon
07/14/19 2:41:55 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
BalisticWarri0r posted...
Proto_Spark posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
It's like...what do people not get about illegal aliens? They came in illegally rather than through the proper channels, "seeking asylum" be damned.


Seeking Asylum is a different thing from regular illegal crossings. because in order to seek asylum you are required to enter illegally first, because most countries won't let you request asylum until you are already within the borders. So if someone is escaping persecution of some kind they have to cross a border illegally in order to even request the help that they need.

It's technically against the law, but its one of those situations where nobody actually has a problem with it unless for some deeper (usually xenophobic) reasoning thats unrelated to the actual issue at hand.

Citation please.


https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-asylum/asylum/obtaining-asylum-united-states

In order to declare asylum, you need to be within the US borders. It can be once you arrive, to compensate that you may be entering the country illegally (To avoid prosecution - "Affirmative Asylum"), or it can be done as a defence against deportation or removal - "defensive asylum processing"


@BalisticWarri0r isn't even going to respond or read the link.
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YourDrunkFather
07/14/19 2:49:52 PM
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If you actually think any of these people are actually going to apply for asylum and arent just going to try and live in the country illegally then I have a bridge to sell you
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Tropicalwood
07/14/19 2:50:38 PM
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SwaggieBelle462 posted...
Shes young and naive, shell mature eventually

She's almost 30.
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BaiusGaltar
07/14/19 2:51:30 PM
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YourDrunkFather posted...
If you actually think any of these people are actually going to apply for asylum and arent just going to try and live in the country illegally then I have a bridge to sell you

But they have...
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Evening_Dragon
07/14/19 2:57:29 PM
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YourDrunkFather posted...
If you actually think any of these people are actually going to apply for asylum and arent just going to try and live in the country illegally then I have a bridge to sell you


Your drunk father is why you have this posting impediment.
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Kpt_Kapowski
07/14/19 2:59:19 PM
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Holy shit who voted for that dumbass
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Dampproof
07/14/19 2:59:43 PM
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Its really funny watching all this kicking and screaming about boarder security when the majority of illegals come in legally at first but just stay.

Why not refocus efforts on catching those who stay on expired VISAs? Boarder hoping is at a historic low right now. Its so ineffective to spend all this money and manpower on one of the LEAST causes of illegal immigration.
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BaiusGaltar
07/14/19 2:59:52 PM
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Kpt_Kapowski posted...
Holy shit who voted for that dumbass

What did she say that was so dumb?
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YourDrunkFather
07/14/19 3:07:22 PM
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BaiusGaltar posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
If you actually think any of these people are actually going to apply for asylum and arent just going to try and live in the country illegally then I have a bridge to sell you

But they have...


Was that before or after they were arrested?

Evening_Dragon posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
If you actually think any of these people are actually going to apply for asylum and arent just going to try and live in the country illegally then I have a bridge to sell you


Your drunk father is why you have this posting impediment.


Good to know. How do you explain yours?
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BaiusGaltar
07/14/19 3:09:30 PM
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YourDrunkFather posted...
BaiusGaltar posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
If you actually think any of these people are actually going to apply for asylum and arent just going to try and live in the country illegally then I have a bridge to sell you

But they have...


Was that before or after they were arrested?

Evening_Dragon posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
If you actually think any of these people are actually going to apply for asylum and arent just going to try and live in the country illegally then I have a bridge to sell you


Your drunk father is why you have this posting impediment.


Good to know. How do you explain yours?

Both. If you apply at port, that's where you go. If your caught and apply, thats where you go, which is 100% legal.
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YourDrunkFather
07/14/19 3:11:56 PM
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BaiusGaltar posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
BaiusGaltar posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
If you actually think any of these people are actually going to apply for asylum and arent just going to try and live in the country illegally then I have a bridge to sell you

But they have...


Was that before or after they were arrested?

Evening_Dragon posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
If you actually think any of these people are actually going to apply for asylum and arent just going to try and live in the country illegally then I have a bridge to sell you


Your drunk father is why you have this posting impediment.


Good to know. How do you explain yours?

Both. If you apply at port, that's where you go. If your caught and apply, thats where you go, which is 100% legal.


How do you get caught if what youre doing is 100% legal?
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BaiusGaltar
07/14/19 3:13:35 PM
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YourDrunkFather posted...
BaiusGaltar posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
BaiusGaltar posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
If you actually think any of these people are actually going to apply for asylum and arent just going to try and live in the country illegally then I have a bridge to sell you

But they have...


Was that before or after they were arrested?

Evening_Dragon posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
If you actually think any of these people are actually going to apply for asylum and arent just going to try and live in the country illegally then I have a bridge to sell you


Your drunk father is why you have this posting impediment.


Good to know. How do you explain yours?

Both. If you apply at port, that's where you go. If your caught and apply, thats where you go, which is 100% legal.


How do you get caught if what youre doing is 100% legal?

You already know how. It's been posted in this topic -- post 24.
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Fam_Fam
07/14/19 3:19:30 PM
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YourDrunkFather posted...
BaiusGaltar posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
BaiusGaltar posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
If you actually think any of these people are actually going to apply for asylum and arent just going to try and live in the country illegally then I have a bridge to sell you

But they have...


Was that before or after they were arrested?

Evening_Dragon posted...
YourDrunkFather posted...
If you actually think any of these people are actually going to apply for asylum and arent just going to try and live in the country illegally then I have a bridge to sell you


Your drunk father is why you have this posting impediment.


Good to know. How do you explain yours?

Both. If you apply at port, that's where you go. If your caught and apply, thats where you go, which is 100% legal.


How do you get caught if what youre doing is 100% legal?


WHAT THE FUCK?

What do people not get? Seeking asylum is legal, and you must be in the country to do so.

Crossing the border illegally is ILLEGAL, regardless of if you are seeking asylum. Period.
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YourDrunkFather
07/14/19 3:21:14 PM
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It may be legal to do that but framing it as 100% legal seems pretty disingenuous. If crossing the border whenever and wherever you felt like was 100% legal we wouldnt have border security in the first place would we?
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Dampproof
07/14/19 3:21:49 PM
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Because they created a "gotcha" situation.

To legally apply for asylum you must enter the US. BUT. You're "technically" entering the country "illegally" to do so.

So even if what you're doing is legal, they can also "gotcha" you and make you another statistic for "illegal immigration".
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untrustful
07/14/19 3:32:23 PM
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Video Summary:
"You shouldn't be able to separate families for crossing the border."
"If I got a dui with a child in the car I would be separated from my kids."
"With all due respect, crossing the border to seek asylum isn't illegal."
"It's against the law I got the code right there. If you want to seek asylum, you go to a port of entry."

Hmm, I wonder why they don't go to a port of entry if it's so easy?
Oh wait:
https://www.humanrightsfirst.org/blog/faq-why-do-asylum-seekers-cross-us-border-between-ports-entry

Information, that's why.
Also love how the video cuts from the hearing almost instantly to insert some political bs. This video, which was designed politically to change minds on illegal immigrants and asylum seekers has instead reinforced my opinion EVEN MORE.
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untrustful
07/14/19 3:37:35 PM
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OMG WHY DID THEY INCLUDE THIS PART:
"Are you the author of this memo regarding family separation?"
"Yes I am."
"Are the author of the separation policy?"
"No I am not." "A zero tolerance memo!"
"You recommended family separation to Secretary Nielson?"
"I gave him numerous recommendations."

HE SOUNDS LIKE A MAFIA
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TheBiggerWiggle
07/14/19 3:50:35 PM
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Thats dudes answers were insincere as fuck. Yes we split a child from a parent when they commit certain crimes, but normally its just temporary. Measures are taken to give the kid to existing family or at worst, social services.

What this dude was doing was separating the kids and throwing them into concentration camps. Theres a pretty big fucking difference.
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Annihilated
07/14/19 4:28:54 PM
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She is the dumbest person in Washington. By FAR.
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